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Need telephone call(s) in Be'er Sheva #general

Nardo Bonomi
 

Dear Jewishgenners,

I'm a following for an academic research a very intriguing case of Crypto-Judaism in Sicily.

Jews were expelled from Sicily in 1492. After the expulsion
1) most of Jews migrated and settled in other parts of Italy and in the Ottoman Empire (Greece etc.). Here is a map of places where ended the Sicilian Jews after the expulsion: https://www.italian-family-history.com/jewish/_Sicilia.html#gone.
2) Some other Jews were forcibly converted to Christianity.
3) A small number of Anusim went on for centuries practising secretly Jewish customs.

After a pilgrimage from Sicily to Belgium some of the descendants of these Sicilian Crypto-Jews live today in Be'er Sheva.

I'm trying to contact some descendants because the result of my research could be a genealogical history of these families back to the the 16th century.

I have three surnames of interest but apparently the online Israel phone-directory don't give the right telephone numbers. Thus I ask to do few telephone calls in Beer Sheva and ask a few questions to these families.

Thank you

Nardo Bonomi Braverman

 

Researching on:

BRAVERMAN Ukraine

LUFT and GRUNBLATT from Kolomya

GROBMAN from Gaysin GONDELMAN

OCCHIPINTI anywhere

(Author of http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/Italy/italian.htm)

 


Re: Chernivtsi or Chernivtsi? #russia #ukraine #austria-czech

Banai Lynn Feldstein
 

Daniel Horowitz had the same issue and I don't know how he determined which one was the correct one for his family, but he then ran an indexing project for one of them for the records microfilmed at FamilySearch, so you can check the database and see if you have matching family in the bigger city.

https://czernowitz.geneasearch.net/
--
Banai Lynn Feldstein
Professional Genealogist
Salt Lake City, Utah
http://idogenealogy.com/
http://geneasearch.net/


Re: Date of death for Fannie Shlanger Newman #usa #records

The Becker's Email
 

Fanny was alive in 1950 as she appears on the 1950 census at the same address (source:  Ancestry).  The NJ death index (Ancestry) links to a Fanny Newman who died June 1952.  Contact the reference librarian at the Newark public library and see if there is a death notice/obit.

Johanna Becker
Newport, RI

Detail Source

 

Name: Fanny Newman
Age: 87
Birth Date: abt 1863
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Hungary
Marital Status: Widowed
Relation to Head of House: Head
Residence Date: 1950
Home in 1950: Newark, Essex, New Jersey, USA
Dwelling Number: 21
Farm: No
Acres: No
Citizenship: Yes
Occupation Category: Keeping House
Worked Last Week: No
Seeking Work: No
Employment Status: No
Household Members Age Relationship
Fanny Newman 87 Head


Re: MyHeritage Adds Historical Record Collection From Vienna Free Access to Search; Adds 1 Million Norwegian Emigrant Registers Free to Search #announcements #austria-czech #records #scandinavia

beuginr@...
 

I would also like to add my thanks to Jan for this post.  I was able to find my mother's application for emigration from Vienna to England in June 1939.  She was able to successfully get to London in July. The comments by the interviewer provide a glimpse into how desperate life was at this time for both her and her father, a medical doctor, who was left behind then deported to Thereisenstadt in July 1942 where he perished in April 1943.

Ron Beugin
Calgary, Canada


ViewMate translation request - Russian #translation

Paul Moverman
 

I've posted several Polish vital records in Russian for which I would greatly appreciate a translation. They are posted on ViewMate at the following addresses ...

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM99119
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM99120
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM99121
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM99122
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page. Thank you very much!

Paul Moverman
Milford, NH, USA


ViewMate translation request - Russian #translation #poland #russia

Greg Tuckman
 

Hello everyone,

I've posted 4 vital records in Russian for which I need a translation. They are on ViewMate at the following addresses ...

1.  Birth Record of Mirla ROZENBOJM:
https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM99096&data=05%7C01%7C%7C86a0799f84504ee43fb708da5f8929e7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637927340002898253%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=TNGwJ5hGsorfKdlKzOD%2FCGWvm%2FthLXSqHs34djY%2FS5M%3D&reserved=0
2.  Birth record of Gutman ROZENBOJM:
https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM99097&data=05%7C01%7C%7C10689b0575ef48a50ffe08da5f892c0e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637927340043051942%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=2nBtwKE2X3B6%2B8WOF2lRuZtvZ1FzksIVa5zGl7%2FV%2Fr8%3D&reserved=0
3.  Birth record of Szyja ROZENBOJM:
https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM99098&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cb77b95fbc26d45a2d31408da5f892e48%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637927340072112590%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=gTLPvnnb7ctf03FlI%2BlbdtBtP1TFzIOq1ga5MxDgQu4%3D&reserved=0
4.  Birth record of Zelda ROZENBOJM:
https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jewishgen.org%2Fviewmate%2Fviewmateview.asp%3Fkey%3DVM99099&data=05%7C01%7C%7C1a0d06f0f89444d7be5808da5f892fe5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637927340104766760%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=kvgronKQqtOCoQDlYD4cR6Uz2XUJi59Ryl12iXhkUAc%3D&reserved=0

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

Thank you very much.
Greg Tuckman
Phoenix, Arizona USA


July 18 on Zoom: Clandestine Jewish Immigration to Pre-State Israel from the Center for Jewish History #announcements #israel #events

Moriah Amit
 

Family History Today: Clandestine Jewish Immigration to Pre-State Israel

Monday, July 18, at 11 am Eastern Time (U.S.) / 18:00 Israel 

 

Between 1920 and 1948, over 100,000 European Jews attempted to immigrate to pre-state Israel, then British-Mandate Palestine, through illegal channels to circumvent Britain’s stringent immigration quotas. This clandestine migration, known as Aliyah Bet or Ha’apala, was predominantly comprised of refugees from Nazi-occupied Europe and Holocaust survivors from Europe’s DP camps. British patrols intercepted more than half of the Aliyah Bet ships heading to Palestine and sent most of the immigrants they discovered to detention camps in Cyprus, Mauritius, and the Atlit Camp in Palestine. In this lecture, Rina Offenbach, Director of the Bintivey Ha’apala Information and Research Center at the Atlit Detention Camp, will delve into the history of this episode, with a special focus on the Atlit Camp, and show you how to use the Atlit Center’s online database to learn more about your family’s arrival in Israel.

 

 

Ticket Info: Pay what you wish; register here for a Zoom link

 

This program is sponsored by the Ackman & Ziff Family Genealogy Institute at the Center for Jewish History. Live closed captioning has been made possible by a grant from the Institute of Museum and Library Services. 

--
Moriah Amit
Senior Genealogy Librarian, Center for Jewish History
New York, NY
mamit@...


Re: DNA matches by country #dna

Linda Kelley
 

Thanks, Bob, I see your point. There is a difference between where the kit owner is living, and where his ancestors lived, which would be more useful for genealogy.
Linda Wolfe Kelley
Portland, OR, USA


Re: Shtetel Searching for Gribnetz, Belarus - Birth Place of Uncle #belarus

Hap Ponedel
 

Bill,

Here is Grebnets from a Russian military map dated 1925. It is not necessarily the date that the original image was created but probably received updates that year, possibly the blue coloring to represent the wet areas. Belarus is often swampy. 


I have placed a green arrow pointing to Grebnets, which is also marked with the number 37, indicating the number dwellings present when the original mapping survey was taken by the Russian military. The original survey probably happened closer to 1900 or even the 1890's. Again, blue areas are indicative of swamps and otherwise this area was wooded as indicated by all the little circles. 
Here is a link to the image which can be downloaded from my website: http://easteurotopo.org/images/s84_western_Russia/XVII-25_s84_Cherven_LC_1925.jpeg
You should be able to right-click the image and save it to your computer. You will also see Cherven at the upper rt. corner of the image in all caps: ЧЕРВЕНЬ
Grebnets is best described as a village and not a shtetl, as it is very small. There is no discernible infrastructure and no central marketplace, a defining feature of shtetls. What is characteristic of villages is the arrangement of buildings on either side of ONE road. There is a cemetery located just to the north of the village. These maps often indicate whether a cemetery is Jewish but here that information is lacking.

Please email me for more interpretation of the map if you care.

Regards,
Hap Ponedel
Eugene, OR
http://easteurotopo.org/
hapsky@...


Re: Date of death for Fannie Shlanger Newman #usa #records

Brian Kerr
 

After a bit of searching, I (Hopefully) believe that the following Ancestry Sharable Link reflects the death information for Fannie.

https://www.ancestry.com/sharing/29328586?h=a0c302

Good Luck! :-))

-- ~Brian D. Kerr, Esq | SSG, U.S. Army (Retired) | SSA, Brigade G1, U.S. Army (Retired) |>>Known Family Surnames (Researching): Dessler, Walk(Valk), Mahler (Maler), Paradisgarten (Paradisegarten), Tomasy (Thomashy), Gluck, Preisz (Priess), Steinhardt (Steinhart), Grossman (Grosman), Sholtz (Shultz), Kaplan, Bloom, Fischer (Fisher), Levy, Baum, Duwidewic, Meisal (Maisel)<<|>>Known Family Locations/Regions (of Surnames): Poland, Ukraine, Russia, Hungary, Lithuania<<|


Help interpreting marriage records from all Galicia database. #galicia

Wendy Griswold
 

Hi, hope everyone is thinking positive and testing negative.

In the all-Galicia database, I am looking at Zurawno marriages 1901-1936.
The folks at Jewish Gen were kind enough to confirm my interpretation that
scans 6 and 7, Gicie Drucker and Shulem Ellner, same page, same record
number, confirms that they were married in Zurawno in 1901. Previous
message on this topic was number 669144.

Scans 2 and 12 show Schulem Shlomo Blitz and Gicie Hauptman, and the
dates, page, and record number are the same.
Married 1901, Zurawno.

(I checked this out with another couple I'm looking at. Scans 6, 7, and
15 show Moses Drucker marrying Feiga Ellner, and the information for
Feiga Ellner matches the information for one Feiga Kronland.) But that
was just for reference.

I think what I've got, looking at scans 2/12 and 6/7, is the same
couple, shown with both parents' surnames. This would be better than
genealogical gold. This would be genealogical diamonds. Which is why I
don't want to jump to conclusions.

Can someone please tell me if I'm right or if I'm perhaps suffering
from confirmation bias?

A thousand thanks,


Wendy Griswold

Pittsfield MA

Searching BLITZ/ PFEIFFER/FEIFER / ELLNER - Zurawno, Stryy, Bolechow,
Stanislawow

WENZELBERG (any spelling), EINHORN, SHIFULDREM - Nowy Sacz area

DWASS (changed to DAVIS), SOROKOFF (any spelling), GARFINKEL - area of
Ekaterinoslaw (now Dniepro) and possibly Vitebsk


Presentation on Archive Services for Belarus #belarus #announcements

Carl Kaplan
 

A Trip To Your Belarus Roots - A Free Presentation by The Together Plan’s Belarus Archives Team

 

Sunday July 20, 2022

12 pm ET

Zoom Meeting

 

 

The Together Plan’s Vasily Zaitsau, Belarus Archive Services Coordinator in Minsk, will present the capabilities of The Together Plan in assisting you with researching in the Belarus Archives, along with the process for getting started. The Together Plan is a non-profit organization, working to assist the Jewish communities in Belarus. TTP has a team in Minsk with extensive Archive capabilities and experience, tracing family roots in Belarus, in some cases back to the 1700s. Vasily will be speaking from Minsk via Zoom.

To register for the presentation, go to:

 

 https://thetogetherplan.com/events/archive-services-a-trip-to-your-roots/

--
Carl Kaplan

KAPLAN, MARGOLIN, KANFSKY Minsk, Belarus
EDELSON, EDINBURG Onikshti, Ukmerge, Lithuania
HOFFERT, BIENSTOCK< BIENENSTOCK Kolbuszowa, Galicia
STEINBERG, KLINGER, WEISSBERG, APPELBERG Bukaczowce, Galicia


Re: DNA matches by country #dna

Bob Smiley
 

Thanks Linda, but did you find people who had ancestors in those locations or only people who listed that country as where they were currently living? I searched for Uraine (where my grandparents came from) and I did not see myself listed, or any known relatives of mine.
--
Bob Smiley
Kirkland, Washington USA


Re: Chernivtsi or Chernivtsi? #russia #ukraine #austria-czech

Steve Stein
 

Sherri,

 

Thanks, but that wasn’t my question. I’m sure there are plenty of Rosenthals everywhere. My question is really which Chernivtsi to pursue, based on the evidence.

 

Steve Stein


Re: How do I get original record image from JewishGen? #records #ukraine

yael polat
 

Hello!
I cannot open the links quoted here old.archives.ua.... and I have the same problem: 

There are data' birth on JewishGen for two people: Basia-Perl and Khaim Zelenny born in Balta. But it is said that they are not microfilmed. As far as I understand, they were found in Odessa: SAOR (State Archive of Odessa Region). I understand that it is not the right moment to contact some researcher in Odessa, but how could the record be found or, in other words, is it a possibility to find the full and original records?
Yael Polar
Israel
Researching mostly Khashchevatoye shtetel

No photo description available.
 


Re: Death March 31/1/1945 from Konigsberg to the Baltic sea #holocaust

pinardpr@...
 

Dear Ephraim!

I read about this death march in an article in Der Spiegel in 2020 published on the anniversary of the atrocity itself. I'll try to send you a link to it in a separate post. The title was: "Der fast vergessene Massenmord am Bernsteinstrand" (in English: "The Almost Forgotten Mass Murder on the Amber Beach."

The main massacre took place at the beach of Palmnicken in what was then Germany, now Yantarny, Kaliningrad Oblast, Russia. Palmnicken was and Yantarny is an important place for harvesting amber -- Bernstein in German, yantar in Russian and other Slavic languages.

The event appears to have been another truly horrific atrocity, a death march of starving prisoners in freezing temperatures far below zero through an East Prussian winter, an area traditionally known for its cold climate.

The text of the article, which also includes a photo gallery, mentions the memoirs of a survivor named Maria Salz, later Blitz, from Krakow, Poland and also the text of an eyewitness, a then 16-year-old Hitler Youth named Martin Bergau. Bergau's writing about the murders apparently led to them being discovered by a broader group of people in the first place. Bergau's book is called (without the diacritics): "Todesmarsch zur Bernsteinkueste: Das Massaker an Juden im ostpreussischen Palmnicken 1945. Zeitzeugen erinnern sich." ("Death March to the Amber Coast: The Massacre of Jews in East Prussian Palmnicken 1945. Eye Witnesses remember."

The Spiegel article also mentions a Leonid Plitman and identifies him as the head of the Kehila of Kaliningrad (which was Koenigsberg before 1945). 

I hope this helps you with some sources. I'll try posting the link to the article for you now.

Rick Pinard, Prague


Re: Chernivtsi or Chernivtsi? #russia #ukraine #austria-czech

Sherri Bobish
 

Hi Steve,

I searched for ROSENTHAL (soundex search) and town Chernivtsi at The JewishGen Unified Databases, and I found 33 burial records at a cemetery in Chernivtsi on Zelena Street.
Most spelled ROSENTHAL, but a few spelled ROZENTHAL.  Perhaps you will recognize some of the names (there are photos of the stones.)

According to this site: http://iajgscemetery.org/eastern-europe/ukraine/chernivtsi
The cemetery on Zelena Street is at the Chernivtsi at coordinates  48°18' N, 25°56' E.

Also found a testimony of  Rozental' Shmil' Srulevich
which mentions the Chernivtsi at coordinates 48°32' N 28°07' E.

Good luck in your search,

Sherri Bobish

Searching:
RATOWSKY / CHAIMSON (Ariogala, Lith.); LEFFENFELD / FINK / KALTER (Daliowa & Jasliska, Pol.)
BOJDA / BLEIWEISS (Tarnow & Tarnobrzeg, Pol.); WALTZMAN / WALZMAN (Ustrzyki Dolne, Pol.)
LEVY (Tyrawa Woloska, Pol.); SOLON / SOLAN / SOKOLSKY (Grodek, Bialystok, Pol.)
BOBISH / BLUMENKRANZ / APPEL / WEINER / ROSENBERG (Vysoko-Litovsk, Brest, Biala Podlaska)


Finding Berkovitch #russia

Bob
 

I am trying to find information on The Gershon Berkovich family And his family from Mogilev Russia. Gershon was Born in 1898 and had a son in Alexander in 1920.
Thank You,
Robert Taub


Re: Date of death for Fannie Shlanger Newman #usa #records

Odeda Zlotnick
 

Don't assume she was alive for all of 1940 and some of 1941.  The city directory may not have been updated in a timely way.
Start your search in 1940.
--
Odeda Zlotnick
Jerusalem, Israel.


Re: Zembin = Zjembin #belarus

Matthew Klionsky
 

I have records from Zembin and environs of several marriages between Podnos and Klionsky families in the 1800s (and Belkins and Leikinds intermarried with both).  And, at least two marriages between Klionsky and Shifrin (=Sifrin), which I mention b/c of the reference to the book by Geof Sifrin.  Also, evidence of a number of alternative representations of Zembin in various records, including Sembin, Zebin and Sebin.  Anyone interested in details, please contact me by email:  Matthew Klionsky   klionsky@...
 
 

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