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Re: Has anyone given a gravestone to a family member that didnt have one due to "suicide"? #usa

jbonline1111@...
 

As I understand Jewish law, suicide is usually considered to be due to mental illness and therefore the person is eligible to be buried with others inside the cemetery.  In reality, and I say this as a retired mental health counselor, mental health is also physical health, so the person died of a physical illness just as much as a mental illness. 
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Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC


Re: How to handle wrong name on gravestone despite his birth and death certificate name? #usa

jbonline1111@...
 

I'm amazed they are willing to do this with a phone call.  Since J doesn't want to call the cemetery, perhaps she would be willing to sign a letter that you might write for her, verifying her identity and the request to install a new footstone.  The cemetery can update its information file to include the reason for the two names. 
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Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC


Looking for family of Nissan and Yehudit Nissan of Vienna #austria-czech

Neil Rosenstein
 

They had four children and descended from the Teitelbaum dynasty
through Rav Shmuel of Gorlice, father of Aryey Leibish Teitelbaum
(married daughter of Chunah Preiss.
Neil Rosenstein


Re: Alternates for first name Blimah #names

Cynthia Hollinsworth
 

See attached example of how Blima can indeed also be Blanka.
White in Polish is "biel " not Blanka or Blanca.
Cynthia Hollinsworth


Re: questions regarding Russian laws #russia

Hap Ponedel
 

Judith, 
I want to return with this, from Tsar Nicholas I and the Jews: The Transformation of Jewish Society in Russia 1825-1855, by Michael Stanislawski, Jewish Publication Society, 1983.
Readers might find this interesting, pp. 175:



Hap Ponedel
Eugene, OR
hapsky@...
http://easteurotopo.org/


Re: ROSENWALD - Dietenhofen & the "Sears Connection" #germany

Emily Rosenberg
 

I found an article that says Julius Rosenwald helped more than 300 relatives escape the Nazis so your family lite might be true. Here is the article https://classicchicagomagazine.com/the-amazing-sears-family/

Emily Rosenberg
Oakland, California

KESNER in Amsterdam, London, Chicago
STODEL in Amsterdam, London, USA
KAWIN in Suwalki and Poland
RUBINSKY in Suwalki and Poland


Re: Washington State Hazen Family #austria-czech

segslusky@...
 

Also, his death certificate and his gravestone may have information about his parents. Have you found those?

Susan Slusky
Highland Park, NJ


Re: Translation needed- Old Russian #translation #ukraine

ryabinkym@...
 

In Russian:

 

1-ая и 2-ая колонка:

Май

377/26

3-ая колонка:

Мещанин Ровинский Янкель Лейбович, живет в селе Россав Каневского уезда

4-ая колонка:

По реестру за #5591 выдана для представления в Киевский Удельный округ. Нотариусом 25 копеек взысканы. Засвидетельствована подпись его, Ровинского, на акте о продаже на снос за 200 рублей мещанину Боруху Сруль-Шимоновичу Краковскому деревянной, крытой железом, основы в селе Россав, Каневского уезда, между домами: его же - Ровинского и Берка Могилевского на земле арендуемой у Удельного ведомства. Нотариусом 10 копеек взысканы.

5-ая и 6-ая колонка:

Акт получил мещанин Янкель Лейбович Ровинский.

 

Translated into English:

 

1st and 2nd column:
May
377/26
3rd column:
Petty bourgeois Rovinsky Yankel Leibovich, lives in the village of Rossav, Kanevsky district
4th column:
According to the registry #5591, it was issued for submission to the Kyiv Specific Okrug. The notary collected 25 kopecks. His signature, Rovinsky, was witnessed on the act of selling for demolition for 200 rubles to the tradesman Borukh Srul-Shymonovich Krakovsky, a wooden, covered with iron, foundation in the village of Rossav, Kanevsky district, between the houses: his own - Rovinsky and Berk Mogilevsky on land leased from the specific department . The notary collected 10 kopecks.
5th and 6th column:
The act was received by the tradesman Yankel Leibovich Rovinsky

 

Translated by Michael Ryabinky
Boynton Beach, FL


Re: Swiss Jewry - sources for research #general

Odeda Zlotnick
 

On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 11:31 AM, Jill Whitehead wrote:
Any help with Swiss sources welcome.
I too would be very grateful for such help.
 
--
Odeda Zlotnick
Jerusalem, Israel.


Re: New Jewish DNA From 14th Century Erfurt #sephardic #dna #germany

Jeremy Lichtman
 

MyTrueAncestry is free to upload, but to actually get results requires money.

They seem to be releasing the results a few per week. So far I can see 8:

I13862
I14740
I14738
I14736
I13867
I13861
I13868
I13863

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Jeremy Lichtman
Toronto, Canada


Re: Swiss Jewry - sources for research #general

Odeda Zlotnick
 

On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 11:31 AM, Jill Whitehead wrote:
I understand that the worldwide HQ of this movement is in Dornach in Switzerland.
That is correct.
I wonder if you can find info about these people through the Anthroposophical center in Dornach.  Their center there is called "The Goethanum".  

Goetheanum | Gesellschaft

Archiv (goetheanum.org)

 
--
Odeda Zlotnick
Jerusalem, Israel.


Re: Washington State Hazen Family #austria-czech

segslusky@...
 

in my family there’s a branch that had the surname Hasenfratz in Bucovina and later in the US shortened their name to Hasen, pronounced Hayzen. So that’s another possibility. Bucovina was part of Austria before WWI, then became Romania, and is now mostly Ukraine


Susan Slusky
Highland Park, NJ


New Databases on IGRA’s Website #announcements #jgs-iajgs #israel

Elena Bazes
 

The Israel Genealogy Research Association (IGRA) has just released new databases on its website. There are close to 2.5 million records available in our databases. With each release we provide a variety of records to our collection.

A preview of the databases is available at
https://www.slideshare.net/igra3/new-igra-release-june-2022

New Databases
Workers in Palestine 1915-1919        565 listings
Central Zionist Archives

Residents Thessaloniki 1938        43 listings
Central Archives for the History of the Jewish People

Workers Thessaloniki 1940       84 listings
Central Archives for the History of the Jewish People

Knesset Israel – Haifa       Letters aleph – lamed 1938
19,098 listings
Israel State Archives

Holon Local Elections 1942      1,730 listings
Israel State Archives

Students Ein Shemer 1950-1953      318 listings
Israel State Archives

Fallen – Graduates of Military Academy   1955-2021
230 listings
Internet

Ben-Gurion University Graduates PhD     2008 – 2010
503 listings
Internet

Ben-Gurion University Graduates
First & Second Degrees 2010      5,105 listings
Internet

Before viewing and searching the databases, please register for free on the IGRA website:

http://genealogy.org.il/

To view/search the databases, go to the database tab on the website.

Please note, the IGRA databases are now searchable to all registrants. The search results page is also available to all registrants. Additional details regarding most databases are available only to paid IGRA members. Certain exceptions exist due to requests of the specific archives.

Elena Biegel Bazes
IGRA Publicity Chair


Re: How to handle wrong name on gravestone despite his birth and death certificate name? #usa

Michele Lock
 

There are ways for you to circulate the information about this boy's legal name and Hebrew name versus what is on his gravestone, for those who are doing genealogical research. 

You can create memorials on Findagrave.com and on Billiongraves.com, for both Hirsch Manischewitz and for Hirsch Farr. You can leave notes with the photo of the gravestone, explaining the situation, and what the boy's legal and Hebrew names were at the time of his death.

Also, if your family tree is on Ancestry.com, you can show the photo of the gravestone, and explain underneath the photo the information about the names. If there are other trees on Ancestry that include this boy, you can leave a comment on the photo of the gravestone, which will appear to the right of that photo whenever anyone views it. I imagine there are similar comments that you can make on trees on FamilySearch and on Geni.

If the grave is listed on JOWBR, I'm not sure if you can leave a comment there or not.

In regards to why the 3rd husband's surname is on the boy's gravestone - maybe this 3rd husband was more involved with raising the boy than his biological father. Perhaps there were plans for the 3rd husband to adopt the boy, but these couldn't be carried out due to his early death. Or who knows what. One thing is certain - the boy's mother wished her son's gravestone to appear as it is. Her wishes should also be taken into account.
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Michele Lock

Lak/Lok/Liak/Lock and Kalon/Kolon in Zagare/Joniskis/Gruzdziai, Lithuania
Lak/Lok/Liak/Lock in Plunge/Telsiai in Lithuania
Rabinowitz in Papile, Lithuania and Riga, Latvia
Trisinsky/Trushinsky/Sturisky and Leybman in Dotnuva, Lithuania
Olitsky in Alytus, Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania
Gutman/Goodman in Czestochowa, Poland
Lavine/Lev/Lew in Trenton, New Jersey and Lida/Vilna gub., Belarus


Re: New Jewish DNA From 14th Century Erfurt #sephardic #dna #germany

Adam Cherson
 

A couple of updates:

1) I've seen reported that some (or maybe all) of the Erfurt samples are available for (free) matching here: https://mytrueancestry.com/en
You should be able to upload your raw data on this site and see which of the Erfurt samples you match most closely.

2) after several weeks of study and discussion, I've revised the charts posted here earlier: the latest analysis shows the Erfurt samples are from the same Ashkenazic population of Jewish migrants to N. Europe, from Byzantine Italy (primarily the wide area around Benevento in the south, and north of Rome in the center), with varying trace amounts of non-Jewish genes associated with ancient Yamnaya and Sarmation-Hunnic migrations into Europe, carried by subsequent European populations (Visigoths, Ostrogoths, Lombards, etc,). who brought these Yamnaya and Sarmation-Hunnic genes into Italian areas, where Roman and Byzantine Jews were residing prior to the Ashkenazic migrations northward. https://1drv.ms/u/s!AuwT-4qnkJLBnVu3UA7YAT6ndXmi?e=Ra7vz6

Adam Cherson
NY, NY


Re: ROSENWALD - Dietenhofen & the "Sears Connection" #germany

Patrick Rosenwald
 

Hello Rafael

I've just joined this forum, and this 14 year old message came up in a search for the name Rosenwald. You probably already have the answers you are looking for, but in case you don't, I hope the following helps.

I haven't come across any Rosenwalds from Dietenhofen, but I can tell you that the father of Julius Rosenwald, whose name was Samuel, came from the German town of Bünde. His family tree is available on geni.com, and if you register (free), you can see his profile at this address:

https://www.geni.com/family-tree/index/6000000014148297511

Please kindly let me know if you find any connection.

Kind regards

Patrick Rosenwald
Lugano, Switzerland
paddy@...


Translation needed- Old Russian #translation #ukraine

Susana Rubin
 

I’ve posted a notarial record in Russian for which I need translation. Please respond via the form provided on the Viewmate page. It is on Viewmate at the following address:
https://www.JewishGen.org/Viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM99161
Thank you very much,
Susana Rubin, Ottawa, Canada


Re: Has anyone given a gravestone to a family member that didnt have one due to "suicide"? #usa

laurel732@...
 

I can't comment regarding any religious restrictions, but I do suggest that you contact the cemetery about their rules about erecting gravestones.  My husband wanted to provide a gravestone for his aunt after we noticed that there wasn't one for her.  We were told by the cemetery that we had to get permission from her heirs before we could do so.   I don't know what happens if there are no heirs living.  I also don't know if this rule isd specific to this cemetery only, if it has something to do with the laws in New Jersey, where the cemetery is located, or if this is standard for all cemeteries. 

Laurel Presser
Manalapan, New Jersey


JGS of Santa Cruz invites you- Researching Eastern European Jewish Surnames with Alexander Beider, PhD. Sunday, July 17, 1pm Pacific Time- #announcements #events #education

Leah Kushner
 

Santa Cruz Jewish Genealogy Society  invites you to  

 Speaker: Dr. Alexander Beider, PhD

 Researching Eastern European Jewish Surnames

Sunday July 17, 1pm Pacific Time/ 4pm Eastern

Guest RSVP:  Register here

Free to Members, $5.00 to Guests 

Description:   A large majority of Jews of the Russian Empire received their family names only about 200 years ago.  In contrast with many other Ashkenazim, the whole surnaming process was managed internally within Jewish communities, with marginal participation by Christian clerks. The names adopted in the Russian Empire reflect a panorama of Jewish life at the beginning of the 19th century including: languages used and their peculiarities, occupations, given names, and places of settlement.

Some surnames provide information about ancestors who lived well before the 19th century. This is the case of surnames revealing Jewish “castes” (Cohanim, Levites), those belonging to rabbinical dynasties, and those of other migrants from Central Europe, as well as a small group of names of Sephardic origin. Because of the Ashkenazic tradition of naming children after deceased close relatives , certain surnames based on given names (patronymics or matronymics) can provide information linking us to those who lived in the Middle Ages.


Bio: Alexander Beider holds one doctoral degree in applied mathematics (Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology) and another in Jewish Studies (Sorbonne, Paris). He uses onomastics and linguistics as tools to unravel the history of the Jewish people. He has written a series of reference books dealing with the etymology of Ashkenazic and Sephardic surnames and Ashkenazic given names, all published by Avotaynu Inc. (1993-2019). His book “Origins of Yiddish Dialects,” published by Oxford University Press (2015), sheds light on the early stages of the development of Yiddish. Beider was born in Moscow and currently lives in Paris.


Zoom link will be sent to your email the week of the event, please check your Spam folder.

For more information or membership information membership@scjgs.org

co-sponsor- Chadeish Yameinu
Leah Kushner, President SCJGS

president@...

Visit our website: https://scjgs.org

Subscribers:  If you already registered for this event via PayPal, you are on our  RSVP list and will receive the Zoom link the week of the event.  


Re: Has anyone given a gravestone to a family member that didnt have one due to "suicide"? #usa

Peter Cohen
 

I have a relative who was buried similarly due to suicide.  After a few years, the family got a bet din to state that the suicide was due to mental illness and could not be held against her and she was moved to the family plot. I understand that this ruling is fairly common, when requested.
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Peter Cohen
California

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