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Hungarian speaking areas #hungary

Judy and Gary Floam <gfloam@...>
 

One small piece of evidence about Slovakia: my grandmother spent her
childhood in Kosice and came to the U.S. at about age 18. She spoke
Hungarian (and Yiddish, of course) and knew how to make strudel.
Judy Floam
Baltimore, Md


Ungvar - a request for information #hungary

Avraham & Judith Berger <abejude@...>
 

I am interested in obtaining information, or even an educated guess, about
the fate of a woman >from Ungvar.

Miriam Feld, the wife of Elimelech (Meilech) Feld was killed in Ungvar
during the final stages of the deportations in the spring of 1944. As the
story was told to me, the Gendarme entered her house to send the Jews living
there to the trains. She didn't move fast enough for them, so they clubbed
her to death with their rifle butts. The rest of her family was sent to
Aushwitz. Presumably, her dead body was left behind.

My question is - what would have happened to her ? Was there a Chevra
Kadisha, or any Jews at all in Ungvar who would have buried her? Would the
Gentiles have buried her? If she was buried, would there be any record of
this. I would welcome any input or insights on this matter.

Avraham Berger

E-mail address: abejude@netvision.net.il


Hungary SIG #Hungary Hungarian speaking areas #hungary

Judy and Gary Floam <gfloam@...>
 

One small piece of evidence about Slovakia: my grandmother spent her
childhood in Kosice and came to the U.S. at about age 18. She spoke
Hungarian (and Yiddish, of course) and knew how to make strudel.
Judy Floam
Baltimore, Md


Hungary SIG #Hungary Ungvar - a request for information #hungary

Avraham & Judith Berger <abejude@...>
 

I am interested in obtaining information, or even an educated guess, about
the fate of a woman >from Ungvar.

Miriam Feld, the wife of Elimelech (Meilech) Feld was killed in Ungvar
during the final stages of the deportations in the spring of 1944. As the
story was told to me, the Gendarme entered her house to send the Jews living
there to the trains. She didn't move fast enough for them, so they clubbed
her to death with their rifle butts. The rest of her family was sent to
Aushwitz. Presumably, her dead body was left behind.

My question is - what would have happened to her ? Was there a Chevra
Kadisha, or any Jews at all in Ungvar who would have buried her? Would the
Gentiles have buried her? If she was buried, would there be any record of
this. I would welcome any input or insights on this matter.

Avraham Berger

E-mail address: abejude@netvision.net.il


names and such #hungary

Rakoff125
 

Chaverim,
Let's not overdo this thing about names and such. My vote is to keep it as
same name and broad description, and people will use as it as they wish. My
clan has traveled all over the map of the Austrian-Hungarian Empire, and then
some. I go where ever the information is. Let us not become exclusionary. My
grandmother told me she was Hungarian, although now she'd be in SLovakia and
she spoke German as well as Hungarian.

This group cannot be all things to all people nor should it limit itself.
Perhaps when there is a special subgroup searching an area like Vienna, which
was full of wandering Jews who travelled in >from other parts of the empire,
we should attempt to make ourselves known to each other for individual
contact and indepth exchanges of information.

I am getting the impression that some areas of Burgenland, Bohemia, and
Moravia are not welcome in the H-Sig...which is too bad. Because I sense that
families may have spread out into those areas >from Hungarian based origins
and it seems foolish to eliminate portions of the "trail" >from our sharing of
resources.

Frankly, I am less concerned about including Austria and what that might mean
for the group than I am about us wasting time and space on pedantic
arguments.
"Come, let us reason together.."

Linda Rakoff
Newton, MA


mod.- I would like to remind everyone that the only issue in our discussion regarding our Austrian "relatives" is whether or not to change the h-sig's name to acknowledge and publicize the inclusion of Austrian Jewish genealogists/researchers. We have always welcomed ANYONE and EVERYONE as subscribers/members of the h-sig: Jews and non-Jews, Hungarians and Litvaks, etc. There are no requirements for participation in h-sig except for a legitimate and positive desire to learn more about Hungarian Jewish genealogy and history. I am sorry for intervening at this time, but we have received a number of messages that give the impression that we were trying to exclude descendants of Austrian or Czech Jews. Just the opposite. We are happy to include every constituency as equal members, especially those who are able and willing to contribute the suggested ten dollar affiliation fee to h-sig. LS


Hungary SIG #Hungary names and such #hungary

Rakoff125
 

Chaverim,
Let's not overdo this thing about names and such. My vote is to keep it as
same name and broad description, and people will use as it as they wish. My
clan has traveled all over the map of the Austrian-Hungarian Empire, and then
some. I go where ever the information is. Let us not become exclusionary. My
grandmother told me she was Hungarian, although now she'd be in SLovakia and
she spoke German as well as Hungarian.

This group cannot be all things to all people nor should it limit itself.
Perhaps when there is a special subgroup searching an area like Vienna, which
was full of wandering Jews who travelled in >from other parts of the empire,
we should attempt to make ourselves known to each other for individual
contact and indepth exchanges of information.

I am getting the impression that some areas of Burgenland, Bohemia, and
Moravia are not welcome in the H-Sig...which is too bad. Because I sense that
families may have spread out into those areas >from Hungarian based origins
and it seems foolish to eliminate portions of the "trail" >from our sharing of
resources.

Frankly, I am less concerned about including Austria and what that might mean
for the group than I am about us wasting time and space on pedantic
arguments.
"Come, let us reason together.."

Linda Rakoff
Newton, MA


mod.- I would like to remind everyone that the only issue in our discussion regarding our Austrian "relatives" is whether or not to change the h-sig's name to acknowledge and publicize the inclusion of Austrian Jewish genealogists/researchers. We have always welcomed ANYONE and EVERYONE as subscribers/members of the h-sig: Jews and non-Jews, Hungarians and Litvaks, etc. There are no requirements for participation in h-sig except for a legitimate and positive desire to learn more about Hungarian Jewish genealogy and history. I am sorry for intervening at this time, but we have received a number of messages that give the impression that we were trying to exclude descendants of Austrian or Czech Jews. Just the opposite. We are happy to include every constituency as equal members, especially those who are able and willing to contribute the suggested ten dollar affiliation fee to h-sig. LS


Vienna city archives: tracing your ancestors #hungary

Ed Zwieback <ezwiebac@...>
 

There is a very useful website called "Tracing Your Ancestors in Vienna:
Some Guidelines", in English. The site has e-mail links to some offices in
Vienna.
http://www.magwien.gv.at/ma08/ancestors.htm

On the discussion of H-SIG expansion: I have been pleased with the help I
received here regarding my research in Austria. I hope we continue to
welcome and help those with questions about Austrian records.
Regards,
Ed Zwieback
Long Beach, CA
http://home1.gte.net/ezwiebac


Hungary SIG #Hungary Vienna city archives: tracing your ancestors #hungary

Ed Zwieback <ezwiebac@...>
 

There is a very useful website called "Tracing Your Ancestors in Vienna:
Some Guidelines", in English. The site has e-mail links to some offices in
Vienna.
http://www.magwien.gv.at/ma08/ancestors.htm

On the discussion of H-SIG expansion: I have been pleased with the help I
received here regarding my research in Austria. I hope we continue to
welcome and help those with questions about Austrian records.
Regards,
Ed Zwieback
Long Beach, CA
http://home1.gte.net/ezwiebac


Town in Maramaros or Ugosca #hungary

DLebovitz@...
 

I am looking for what was in Hungary in 1896 known possibly as Chomanfalva.
This name is listed on my wife's great aunt's (Gussie ROSENTHAL) Social
security application. The first two letters are a good guess. However, the
letters after that are clearly _ _OMANFALVA.
She may have had relatives in Visk (presently Viskovo), Ukraine.
Any help? Thanks!
David Lebovitz
Chicago, IL.
Searching LEBOVICS, ROZNER (Ugocsa Megye)


Zemplen at NYC conf #hungary

alexm6@...
 

Hello Friends,

Let's see a show of hands, how many attenders we have with Zemplen
Interest.

Reply back to me, in private?

Best regards
Alex Miller. READING, PA


Hungary SIG #Hungary Town in Maramaros or Ugosca #hungary

DLebovitz@...
 

I am looking for what was in Hungary in 1896 known possibly as Chomanfalva.
This name is listed on my wife's great aunt's (Gussie ROSENTHAL) Social
security application. The first two letters are a good guess. However, the
letters after that are clearly _ _OMANFALVA.
She may have had relatives in Visk (presently Viskovo), Ukraine.
Any help? Thanks!
David Lebovitz
Chicago, IL.
Searching LEBOVICS, ROZNER (Ugocsa Megye)


Hungary SIG #Hungary Zemplen at NYC conf #hungary

alexm6@...
 

Hello Friends,

Let's see a show of hands, how many attenders we have with Zemplen
Interest.

Reply back to me, in private?

Best regards
Alex Miller. READING, PA


Sheva Kehiloth #hungary

Avraham Ofek <avrofek@...>
 

To all those who responded to my query THANK YOU so much.
I have become a smarter person because of you.
All the best.
Avraham Ofek
Netanya,Israel

Searching:HOPKOVIC,GUZIK,WINTNER,KLEIN in Galicia(Jaslo,Jaslisk,Dukla) and
northern Slovakia(Bardejov,Stropkov,Hummene,Presov,Dobra,Dlha Kolcevo)


Hungary SIG #Hungary Sheva Kehiloth #hungary

Avraham Ofek <avrofek@...>
 

To all those who responded to my query THANK YOU so much.
I have become a smarter person because of you.
All the best.
Avraham Ofek
Netanya,Israel

Searching:HOPKOVIC,GUZIK,WINTNER,KLEIN in Galicia(Jaslo,Jaslisk,Dukla) and
northern Slovakia(Bardejov,Stropkov,Hummene,Presov,Dobra,Dlha Kolcevo)


Re: Yacobstock #latvia

Sharon Fleischman <adjusterbob@...>
 

-----Original Message-----
From: RossIanW@aol.com <RossIanW@aol.com>
To: Latvia SIG <latvia@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Date: Monday, August 02, 1999 1:08 AM
Subject: Yacobstock


Has anyone heard of a town near Riga called Yacobstock? This could be
spelled Yacobstown, Jacobstock or Jacobstown.

Ross Weintraub
Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania, USA
rossianw@aol.com

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It is most correctly spelled Yakobstadt and is today know as Jacobspil about
90 kil. east of Riga Latvia


Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: Yacobstock #latvia

Sharon Fleischman <adjusterbob@...>
 

-----Original Message-----
From: RossIanW@aol.com <RossIanW@aol.com>
To: Latvia SIG <latvia@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Date: Monday, August 02, 1999 1:08 AM
Subject: Yacobstock


Has anyone heard of a town near Riga called Yacobstock? This could be
spelled Yacobstown, Jacobstock or Jacobstown.

Ross Weintraub
Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania, USA
rossianw@aol.com

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It is most correctly spelled Yakobstadt and is today know as Jacobspil about
90 kil. east of Riga Latvia


Re: Name clarification #belarus

Scott Noar <sman@...>
 

Marc Weiss wrote:

I have an ancestor listed in a copy of her birth record in Vitebsk as
"Rachel-Genia Peisachovna". Does anyone know, is the "Genia" part a
--

Genia is a first name for a female. Actually, it is Henia, the russian does
not have an H so they substitute wtih a G.

It is yiddish for Hannah.

scott
sman@uscom.com


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Name clarification #belarus

Scott Noar <sman@...>
 

Marc Weiss wrote:

I have an ancestor listed in a copy of her birth record in Vitebsk as
"Rachel-Genia Peisachovna". Does anyone know, is the "Genia" part a
--

Genia is a first name for a female. Actually, it is Henia, the russian does
not have an H so they substitute wtih a G.

It is yiddish for Hannah.

scott
sman@uscom.com


Re: 1897 All Russia Census #belarus

kudish <kudish@...>
 

Joelrat@aol.com wrote 2. august 1999:

As I had suspected, the supposed 1897 Census is not that at all. It is the
"Premier Recensement General de la Population de L'Empire de Russie, 1897
Publication du Comite Central de Statistique sous la redaction de N.
Troinitsky".

Gee folks, this is French - the 1897 Russian Census was done in Russian,
no?
----

I am trying to explain why it was in French. The Russian aristocrat spoke
mostly French since Napoleon time. The most educated people conversed in
French. The Russian was considered as "language de peuple". If anybody read
"Anna Karenin" by Lev Tolstoy, the first page and many others are written in French. I would love to see it and to help but I'll be in N.Y. only for
three days and I will search in LDS. If we all can wait till fall, I'll do
it with great pleasure either in French or Russian.

Irene Kudish
kudish@netcom.ca


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: 1897 All Russia Census #belarus

kudish <kudish@...>
 

Joelrat@aol.com wrote 2. august 1999:

As I had suspected, the supposed 1897 Census is not that at all. It is the
"Premier Recensement General de la Population de L'Empire de Russie, 1897
Publication du Comite Central de Statistique sous la redaction de N.
Troinitsky".

Gee folks, this is French - the 1897 Russian Census was done in Russian,
no?
----

I am trying to explain why it was in French. The Russian aristocrat spoke
mostly French since Napoleon time. The most educated people conversed in
French. The Russian was considered as "language de peuple". If anybody read
"Anna Karenin" by Lev Tolstoy, the first page and many others are written in French. I would love to see it and to help but I'll be in N.Y. only for
three days and I will search in LDS. If we all can wait till fall, I'll do
it with great pleasure either in French or Russian.

Irene Kudish
kudish@netcom.ca