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Re: Amsterdam and Vilna Gaon #belarus

Mario Jeifetz <mjeifetz@...>
 

Sylvia Schildt wrote:

I read recently that that the Vilna Gaon (1720-1797) got to Holland in
his vain attempt to make Aliya to Eretz Yisrael. When he returned to
Vilna he may have brought a number of Jewish artisans with him >from
Amsterdam, one of the main Hebrew printing centres in Europe and the
skill was taken >from there to Vilna. Other artisans may have followed.
.....snip.....
--------------------
Of course it has a special relation!
I have a copy of a very old document found in Great Britain telling
that TRUMPER surname, same as my ancestors born in Amstibove-Mstibovo,
was originated in Holland. The document refers to English (not Jewish)
TRUMPERs, but it is another way that could take my search.

Some time a very respectable SIGger of this list said something like
"you never will know under which stone you will find a diamond".

Thanks to the moderator for keep open his/her mind.

Mario Jeifetz
Moises Ville
Argentina


Belarus SIG #Belarus RE: Amsterdam and Vilna Gaon #belarus

Mario Jeifetz <mjeifetz@...>
 

Sylvia Schildt wrote:

I read recently that that the Vilna Gaon (1720-1797) got to Holland in
his vain attempt to make Aliya to Eretz Yisrael. When he returned to
Vilna he may have brought a number of Jewish artisans with him >from
Amsterdam, one of the main Hebrew printing centres in Europe and the
skill was taken >from there to Vilna. Other artisans may have followed.
.....snip.....
--------------------
Of course it has a special relation!
I have a copy of a very old document found in Great Britain telling
that TRUMPER surname, same as my ancestors born in Amstibove-Mstibovo,
was originated in Holland. The document refers to English (not Jewish)
TRUMPERs, but it is another way that could take my search.

Some time a very respectable SIGger of this list said something like
"you never will know under which stone you will find a diamond".

Thanks to the moderator for keep open his/her mind.

Mario Jeifetz
Moises Ville
Argentina


Re: Cemteries tombstones and videos #hungary

Gondwana Gardens <dd@...>
 

Louis,

I was amazed because this very topic is one I have been immersed in
myself in the past several weeks, due to my efforts to prepare a
presentation on our botanizing trips to the South Pacific, all made in
video which needed editing in digital format (I have an iMac DV special
edition used for this).

My approach was to rent one of the newer DV-standard cameras (which
*would* have a firewire port), and import the data into the computer,
edit it as needed, upload it as needed, then return the rental camera.
The problem is that you will need more than just the "right" camera and
the "right" computer: Video editing is hugely dependent on very, very,
very generous hard drive space, a very fast processor, and abundant RAM.

Another issue would be the upload to databases and websites: even with
broadband you are looking at significant time-periods of continuous
upload activity. Ironically, if you took the DV tapes to a video service
agency, the DV tapes could be very faithfully and reliably duplicated,
and each copy could be directly supplied to its destination: The website
host could rent a DV recorder and do its own upload on the premises
directly onto the server hard-drive, the database could do the same, and
your individual copy recipients would have the same result (each fending
for themselves to transfer or use the data, unfortunately).

Problem with merely copying is that it assumes you wont be doing any
editing prior to delivery of the tapes.

If I weren't distracted by a bunch of serious matters in my immediate
future, I'd happily take them (provided you could help fund the DV
recorder-rental), transfer the data to my iMac, where I could edit it
per your criteria, and retransfer any number of edited, recorded copies
to whomever you wished. I could even record them onto a digital 8 tape
(I have the Sony Digital 8 for this purpose), which is more inexpensive
and easily available, but I'm told the quality is less than DV. Perhaps
after January 1 it'll be easier for me, assuming you want me to do this.
How many tapes are we talking about?


Hope this helps?


My best to all, and a belated Shana Tovah.

David Deutsch


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Cemteries tombstones and videos #hungary

Gondwana Gardens <dd@...>
 

Louis,

I was amazed because this very topic is one I have been immersed in
myself in the past several weeks, due to my efforts to prepare a
presentation on our botanizing trips to the South Pacific, all made in
video which needed editing in digital format (I have an iMac DV special
edition used for this).

My approach was to rent one of the newer DV-standard cameras (which
*would* have a firewire port), and import the data into the computer,
edit it as needed, upload it as needed, then return the rental camera.
The problem is that you will need more than just the "right" camera and
the "right" computer: Video editing is hugely dependent on very, very,
very generous hard drive space, a very fast processor, and abundant RAM.

Another issue would be the upload to databases and websites: even with
broadband you are looking at significant time-periods of continuous
upload activity. Ironically, if you took the DV tapes to a video service
agency, the DV tapes could be very faithfully and reliably duplicated,
and each copy could be directly supplied to its destination: The website
host could rent a DV recorder and do its own upload on the premises
directly onto the server hard-drive, the database could do the same, and
your individual copy recipients would have the same result (each fending
for themselves to transfer or use the data, unfortunately).

Problem with merely copying is that it assumes you wont be doing any
editing prior to delivery of the tapes.

If I weren't distracted by a bunch of serious matters in my immediate
future, I'd happily take them (provided you could help fund the DV
recorder-rental), transfer the data to my iMac, where I could edit it
per your criteria, and retransfer any number of edited, recorded copies
to whomever you wished. I could even record them onto a digital 8 tape
(I have the Sony Digital 8 for this purpose), which is more inexpensive
and easily available, but I'm told the quality is less than DV. Perhaps
after January 1 it'll be easier for me, assuming you want me to do this.
How many tapes are we talking about?


Hope this helps?


My best to all, and a belated Shana Tovah.

David Deutsch


Re: Cemteries tombstones and videos #hungary

Leslie Gyi <leslie@...>
 

To all: the next two messages might have been sent only to me, but they were sent to the entire h-sig. The individual writers were wiser than I was, since many of us are moving in this photographic direction and we can all learn >from this information.LS



I too have experienced a similiar problem with my Panosonic Digital Video
Camera that I purchase over a year ago, because the display quality was
superior to the Sony cameras, but half the price of Sony's. I have all the
Velykiv Bychkiv Cemetery on it, where my Digital still camera was having
problems and I have only 30% of the stones on this camera. I also have my
Spanish Bullfights on here, since it captures sound as well as video.

I learned later that the difference in pricing is due to "PC Readiness" of
cameras. Sony Cameras are PC Ready if you own a Sony PC, as the president
of my company does, but does at great expense (purchased via the American
Express Platinum Catalogue).

What I learned in making my Camera and PC communicate is:
1) It is company proprietary...only Panosonic could help me, so keep this
in mind when
buying cameras, that you are getting in bed with that vendor for the
duration
2) Panosonic had teaming agreements with two companies that built
hardware/software
for this connectivity. Both companies wanted $800+ for this
hardware/software
and considered it a bargain, cause the main market for this is
profession entertainment
editting, where they currently spend far more than this, so it is quite
a deal for them
3) My PC would still need an IEEE Firewire card, and it was unknown whether
this card
works on any Toshiba, much less my lsptop. Lesson here, is that the
IEEE Firewire
card is not guaranteed to work on all machines. If it is not certified
for your machine
you embark on this journey on your own. No tech support staffs (PC,
Camera, Software
will assist you even if you own a support contract)

Conclusions:
1) When buying equipment, make sure it is already configured for what you
want. My
Company president paid alot for his Sony Equipment, but it worked right
out of the box.
2) You can always display your Digital output to a TV and Tape it on your
VCR, which is
my current workaround.
3) I asked my cousin's assistance, since he is a producer, director, writer
and has
many contacts in the film world for recommendations and was told every
camera and
digital connection is a technical project unto itself. His friend, also
a
writer/producer personally owns a JVC. When purchasing my 3.3 Megapixel
still camera
I took this into consideration, as well as, trying all the cameras on
small print
and comparing the output. I ended up selecting the JVC. I did the same
test with
Panasonic video camera almost 2 years ago. The new Panasonic comes PC
ready, unlike my
old one, but the still shots are only .5 megapixels, so I went with the
3.3 MP JVC still
camera.
4) I worked at LA Times on a consulting job. One of their photographers is
a friend of
a cousin of mine, and they are using Cameras with MAC connections
5) I am using two of my very high power technical connections, one a UNIX
system Admin,
and another a Graphics consultant, and my problems have not been
resolved, nor do I feel
its a good use of our time, so I will use my workaround in item #2,
where I only lose
editting capabilities. Since Digital Video is large in file size,
transmission would be
challenging at best (I am in a 10 hr FTP of 100 files of 1 MB each for a
total of
approximately 100 MB of the Sighet Burial Records on a 750 MHZ machine
operating at
46.6kbps, which is far less data then a digital video.) I will also
probably just buy
a new camera as it is probably cheaper than the time the three of us
have spent
considering our billing rates.
6) I have another workaround, a 'snappy card' that will allow me to pull a
frame off
my Digital Camera, and transfer to my PC. This is probably more in the
realm that
current Data Transmission can handle.
7) Another purchasing option is a Sony Magniva, in varying pricing
depending on the
Megapixels. It supports short video, and works off 3 Diskette. This is
perhaps
the easiest, cheapest option for the novice. I didn't select it cause
the quality
of image off small, faint print wasn't good, but it is fine for normal
pictures.

I have been buying all my camera equipment <snip>would have better pricing if you have the time to check, and ship. I seem
to be buying cameras before I step on planes and am time constrained.

Leslie Gyi
Merrimack NH
Researching FEIGs anywhere
POLLAKs in Carpathia
HAJNIKs in Poland
GOLDENBERGs in Poland


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: Cemteries tombstones and videos #hungary

Leslie Gyi <leslie@...>
 

To all: the next two messages might have been sent only to me, but they were sent to the entire h-sig. The individual writers were wiser than I was, since many of us are moving in this photographic direction and we can all learn >from this information.LS



I too have experienced a similiar problem with my Panosonic Digital Video
Camera that I purchase over a year ago, because the display quality was
superior to the Sony cameras, but half the price of Sony's. I have all the
Velykiv Bychkiv Cemetery on it, where my Digital still camera was having
problems and I have only 30% of the stones on this camera. I also have my
Spanish Bullfights on here, since it captures sound as well as video.

I learned later that the difference in pricing is due to "PC Readiness" of
cameras. Sony Cameras are PC Ready if you own a Sony PC, as the president
of my company does, but does at great expense (purchased via the American
Express Platinum Catalogue).

What I learned in making my Camera and PC communicate is:
1) It is company proprietary...only Panosonic could help me, so keep this
in mind when
buying cameras, that you are getting in bed with that vendor for the
duration
2) Panosonic had teaming agreements with two companies that built
hardware/software
for this connectivity. Both companies wanted $800+ for this
hardware/software
and considered it a bargain, cause the main market for this is
profession entertainment
editting, where they currently spend far more than this, so it is quite
a deal for them
3) My PC would still need an IEEE Firewire card, and it was unknown whether
this card
works on any Toshiba, much less my lsptop. Lesson here, is that the
IEEE Firewire
card is not guaranteed to work on all machines. If it is not certified
for your machine
you embark on this journey on your own. No tech support staffs (PC,
Camera, Software
will assist you even if you own a support contract)

Conclusions:
1) When buying equipment, make sure it is already configured for what you
want. My
Company president paid alot for his Sony Equipment, but it worked right
out of the box.
2) You can always display your Digital output to a TV and Tape it on your
VCR, which is
my current workaround.
3) I asked my cousin's assistance, since he is a producer, director, writer
and has
many contacts in the film world for recommendations and was told every
camera and
digital connection is a technical project unto itself. His friend, also
a
writer/producer personally owns a JVC. When purchasing my 3.3 Megapixel
still camera
I took this into consideration, as well as, trying all the cameras on
small print
and comparing the output. I ended up selecting the JVC. I did the same
test with
Panasonic video camera almost 2 years ago. The new Panasonic comes PC
ready, unlike my
old one, but the still shots are only .5 megapixels, so I went with the
3.3 MP JVC still
camera.
4) I worked at LA Times on a consulting job. One of their photographers is
a friend of
a cousin of mine, and they are using Cameras with MAC connections
5) I am using two of my very high power technical connections, one a UNIX
system Admin,
and another a Graphics consultant, and my problems have not been
resolved, nor do I feel
its a good use of our time, so I will use my workaround in item #2,
where I only lose
editting capabilities. Since Digital Video is large in file size,
transmission would be
challenging at best (I am in a 10 hr FTP of 100 files of 1 MB each for a
total of
approximately 100 MB of the Sighet Burial Records on a 750 MHZ machine
operating at
46.6kbps, which is far less data then a digital video.) I will also
probably just buy
a new camera as it is probably cheaper than the time the three of us
have spent
considering our billing rates.
6) I have another workaround, a 'snappy card' that will allow me to pull a
frame off
my Digital Camera, and transfer to my PC. This is probably more in the
realm that
current Data Transmission can handle.
7) Another purchasing option is a Sony Magniva, in varying pricing
depending on the
Megapixels. It supports short video, and works off 3 Diskette. This is
perhaps
the easiest, cheapest option for the novice. I didn't select it cause
the quality
of image off small, faint print wasn't good, but it is fine for normal
pictures.

I have been buying all my camera equipment <snip>would have better pricing if you have the time to check, and ship. I seem
to be buying cameras before I step on planes and am time constrained.

Leslie Gyi
Merrimack NH
Researching FEIGs anywhere
POLLAKs in Carpathia
HAJNIKs in Poland
GOLDENBERGs in Poland


SHUR and KOPAL from Khorol, Ukraine #general

Wayne Shur <shur@...>
 

I am seeking information on the SHUR and KOPAL families >from Khorol, in
Poltava Gubernia. I can't find much information on the town, and have
limited info on my grandparents and their families >from the area. They left
in 1928 and moved to Western Canada (Edmonton area). There were apparently
a few KOPAL brothers and at least one SHUR who remained behind.
Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
Thankyou and Shalom

Wayne Shur
shur@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen SHUR and KOPAL from Khorol, Ukraine #general

Wayne Shur <shur@...>
 

I am seeking information on the SHUR and KOPAL families >from Khorol, in
Poltava Gubernia. I can't find much information on the town, and have
limited info on my grandparents and their families >from the area. They left
in 1928 and moved to Western Canada (Edmonton area). There were apparently
a few KOPAL brothers and at least one SHUR who remained behind.
Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
Thankyou and Shalom

Wayne Shur
shur@...


Ellis Island Fire in 1896 or 1897 #general

FEntin2385@...
 

Will someone give me the exact date of the fire and when passenger lists
were saved at the Barge Ofice until the opening of the present Building?
Thankyou,
Fran Marcus Entin
MARCUS ;NATHANSON ;NOMENZANSKY ; STABINSKY ; ENTIN; WETSTEIN ;
RABINOWITZ ; BREITMAN ; JACOBS ; AVIN ; EVAN ;


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ellis Island Fire in 1896 or 1897 #general

FEntin2385@...
 

Will someone give me the exact date of the fire and when passenger lists
were saved at the Barge Ofice until the opening of the present Building?
Thankyou,
Fran Marcus Entin
MARCUS ;NATHANSON ;NOMENZANSKY ; STABINSKY ; ENTIN; WETSTEIN ;
RABINOWITZ ; BREITMAN ; JACOBS ; AVIN ; EVAN ;


New Krakow Project #poland

Judy Wolkovitch <judywolk@...>
 

As many of your know, a great new project has been initiated that will be of
interest to all Krakow researchers:

Krakow Synagogue Marriage and Bann Registers (1892 to 1939)

These contain very valuable information. The first group of approximately
2000 entries will be released in late October at which time they will be
searchable on the JRI-Poland web site. They are the marriages/banns for the
years 1892, 1897-1899, and 1901-1902. Full extracts were made for about 1400
entries to illustrate the full value of this outstanding resource. Other
years will consist of expanded indices including the father and mother's
names, mother's MAIDEN name, and town of birth. In some cases, secondary
name by which the individuals were know were also recorded and will appear
in the indices. This takes a lot of guesswork out of which records to
order.

To date only ten people have contributed but we have raised $970, nearly one
third of the sum needed for Phase I. This represents only a small fraction
of these interested in the Krakow records and we kindly ask that those who
can please contribute so that these valuable research aids can be published
on the web.

Please help support this important project. Because the registers are not
all identical and there are no index pages, we are unable to determine the
exact cost to index the entire Krakow marriage and bann collection.
However, to launch the fundraising, we are setting a target of $3000 which
should be sufficient for approximately 25,000 entries. Future releases of
data will be related to the funds raised.

PLEASE NOTE: researchers contributing a minimum of $100 will be eligible to
receive an Excel spreadsheet with the indices to the ENTIRE collection.

Contributions should be made to Jewish Records Indexing - Poland. Please
specify "For the Krakow Marriage and Bann Indexing Project" on your check or
other correspondence. Please send contributions to:

Jewish Records Indexing - Poland,
c/o Sheila Salo, Treasurer,
5607 Greenleaf Rd., Cheverly,
MD20785

or pay by Visa at:
<http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/visa.htm>

For further information go to the JRI-Poland homepage at
http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl
and select the JHI_JGS, NY project. (Make sure you "refresh"
and/or empty your cache as this is a new link on our home page.)

This indexing initiative is yet another example of the power of cooperative
effort by volunteers and contributors with a common interest. Please help us
to get it completed.

Kind regards,

Judy Wolkovitch
Krakow Town Leader


JRI Poland #Poland New Krakow Project #poland

Judy Wolkovitch <judywolk@...>
 

As many of your know, a great new project has been initiated that will be of
interest to all Krakow researchers:

Krakow Synagogue Marriage and Bann Registers (1892 to 1939)

These contain very valuable information. The first group of approximately
2000 entries will be released in late October at which time they will be
searchable on the JRI-Poland web site. They are the marriages/banns for the
years 1892, 1897-1899, and 1901-1902. Full extracts were made for about 1400
entries to illustrate the full value of this outstanding resource. Other
years will consist of expanded indices including the father and mother's
names, mother's MAIDEN name, and town of birth. In some cases, secondary
name by which the individuals were know were also recorded and will appear
in the indices. This takes a lot of guesswork out of which records to
order.

To date only ten people have contributed but we have raised $970, nearly one
third of the sum needed for Phase I. This represents only a small fraction
of these interested in the Krakow records and we kindly ask that those who
can please contribute so that these valuable research aids can be published
on the web.

Please help support this important project. Because the registers are not
all identical and there are no index pages, we are unable to determine the
exact cost to index the entire Krakow marriage and bann collection.
However, to launch the fundraising, we are setting a target of $3000 which
should be sufficient for approximately 25,000 entries. Future releases of
data will be related to the funds raised.

PLEASE NOTE: researchers contributing a minimum of $100 will be eligible to
receive an Excel spreadsheet with the indices to the ENTIRE collection.

Contributions should be made to Jewish Records Indexing - Poland. Please
specify "For the Krakow Marriage and Bann Indexing Project" on your check or
other correspondence. Please send contributions to:

Jewish Records Indexing - Poland,
c/o Sheila Salo, Treasurer,
5607 Greenleaf Rd., Cheverly,
MD20785

or pay by Visa at:
<http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/visa.htm>

For further information go to the JRI-Poland homepage at
http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl
and select the JHI_JGS, NY project. (Make sure you "refresh"
and/or empty your cache as this is a new link on our home page.)

This indexing initiative is yet another example of the power of cooperative
effort by volunteers and contributors with a common interest. Please help us
to get it completed.

Kind regards,

Judy Wolkovitch
Krakow Town Leader


KELLER - Toronto #general

David Joseph Colman <dybk@...>
 

In the first quarter of the 20th century, a number of KELLERs came to
Toronto; David, Matthew, Caleb, Lejb, Fajga, Dwojra Ita, Hena Gitl, and
Max - maybe more - >from north of Plock (e.g., Rypin and Sierpc).

Except for Max, my ggg uncle, they all disappear >from Toronto
directories. I would like to hear >from anybody who knows where any of
them went. The original family name was KRUPIARZ.

David Colman
Toronto, Canada


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen KELLER - Toronto #general

David Joseph Colman <dybk@...>
 

In the first quarter of the 20th century, a number of KELLERs came to
Toronto; David, Matthew, Caleb, Lejb, Fajga, Dwojra Ita, Hena Gitl, and
Max - maybe more - >from north of Plock (e.g., Rypin and Sierpc).

Except for Max, my ggg uncle, they all disappear >from Toronto
directories. I would like to hear >from anybody who knows where any of
them went. The original family name was KRUPIARZ.

David Colman
Toronto, Canada


Reconstruction of Vilnius Jewish Quarter #lithuania

Altersolomon@...
 

The Vilnius Great Synagogue was not destroyed by the Nazis.
I was informed by an eyewitness that whilst the Synagogue was heavily damaged by the fighting during the War it was the post war communist regime which had it bulldozed to the ground as well as razing the surrounding (Jewish) structures.

It was the same communist regime which destroyed the ancient Jewish cemetery so that a sports stadium could be built on the site.
The tomb of the Vilna Gaon and other Jewish scholars were also destroyed but the bones of the Gaon and some of his disciples were reinterred by Vilnius Jews in the Jewish cemetery in the Vilnius suburbs.

Alter Solomon


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Fwd: Reconstruction of Vilnius Jewish Quarter #lithuania

Altersolomon@...
 

The Vilnius Great Synagogue was not destroyed by the Nazis.
I was informed by an eyewitness that whilst the Synagogue was heavily damaged by the fighting during the War it was the post war communist regime which had it bulldozed to the ground as well as razing the surrounding (Jewish) structures.

It was the same communist regime which destroyed the ancient Jewish cemetery so that a sports stadium could be built on the site.
The tomb of the Vilna Gaon and other Jewish scholars were also destroyed but the bones of the Gaon and some of his disciples were reinterred by Vilnius Jews in the Jewish cemetery in the Vilnius suburbs.

Alter Solomon


Cemteries tombstones and videos #hungary

Louis Schonfeld <Lmagyar@...>
 

Once again I turn to you for assistance. I have numerous videos of Jewish
cemeteries throughout Hungary, Slovakia and Subcarpathian Ruthenia. Included in these videos are many still photos taken with a JVC digital video camera. The camera is a Cyber Cam GR-DVM1 and uses DV sized film. It is about two and a half years old. I purchased a program that I thought
would help me get the film into my computer and edit it so that the
information shown on the tombstones would be able to be
transcribed and submitted to 1. Jewishgen WW cemetery database 2. H-sig
website and 3. to the individuals who have requested copies of the
film/tape. I was not successful in this endeavor. Plan B is to purchase a
Sony VAIO computer with all the built in capabilities of video transferring
and editing. However, there is something called a "firewire" which one must
connect >from the camera to the computer to transmit the video. My video
camera has no port for this type of connection. I am told that the newer
model JVC video cameras have this connection capability. I can't use a Sony
camera since that is for 8mm film only, and I have the DV size film. Can
someone enlighten me about this? 1. Am I correct about the technical
specifications mentioned here? 2. If my only option is to purchase a newer
JVC camera does anyone have a suggestion for the best place to purchase such
a camera? Can it be rented - if so, where? 3. Are there alternatives
available to get the data on the film into the hands of the public? Can
Jewishgen do it, if I send them a video copy (which I can do)? Please
respond privately.

Louis Schonfeld
Lmagyar@...

P.S. Unrelated to this message, but important for some of you: A copy of
the original Pinkas Hevra Kadisha (burial registry) of Ungvar/Uzhgorod has
been sent to the Washington D.C. Holocaust Memorial Museum. As mentioned
in an earlier message I hope to go to Israel later this year and at that
time find out the progress of the transcribing project for this Pinkas. LS


Hungary SIG #Hungary Cemteries tombstones and videos #hungary

Louis Schonfeld <Lmagyar@...>
 

Once again I turn to you for assistance. I have numerous videos of Jewish
cemeteries throughout Hungary, Slovakia and Subcarpathian Ruthenia. Included in these videos are many still photos taken with a JVC digital video camera. The camera is a Cyber Cam GR-DVM1 and uses DV sized film. It is about two and a half years old. I purchased a program that I thought
would help me get the film into my computer and edit it so that the
information shown on the tombstones would be able to be
transcribed and submitted to 1. Jewishgen WW cemetery database 2. H-sig
website and 3. to the individuals who have requested copies of the
film/tape. I was not successful in this endeavor. Plan B is to purchase a
Sony VAIO computer with all the built in capabilities of video transferring
and editing. However, there is something called a "firewire" which one must
connect >from the camera to the computer to transmit the video. My video
camera has no port for this type of connection. I am told that the newer
model JVC video cameras have this connection capability. I can't use a Sony
camera since that is for 8mm film only, and I have the DV size film. Can
someone enlighten me about this? 1. Am I correct about the technical
specifications mentioned here? 2. If my only option is to purchase a newer
JVC camera does anyone have a suggestion for the best place to purchase such
a camera? Can it be rented - if so, where? 3. Are there alternatives
available to get the data on the film into the hands of the public? Can
Jewishgen do it, if I send them a video copy (which I can do)? Please
respond privately.

Louis Schonfeld
Lmagyar@...

P.S. Unrelated to this message, but important for some of you: A copy of
the original Pinkas Hevra Kadisha (burial registry) of Ungvar/Uzhgorod has
been sent to the Washington D.C. Holocaust Memorial Museum. As mentioned
in an earlier message I hope to go to Israel later this year and at that
time find out the progress of the transcribing project for this Pinkas. LS


1886 pogrom in Ekaterinoslav? -TALALAY #ukraine

Alicia Jensen <aliciajens@...>
 

Hello all,
I am sending this query to the Ekaterinoslav Area Research Group as
well as this one, so I apologize if you subscribe to both and therefore
receive it twice.

Here is background of that I know:
My Gt.gt. grandfather, Nachum ben Nachman TALALAY, was born about 1856,
in Mogilev, Belarus.
He was married to Riva Ruchel bat Yosel (?), born about 1876, likely in
Mogilev, Belarus, also.
Their children were:
Yankel Moshe ben Nachum TALALAY, born Nov 1876, in Mogilev, Belarus (my
gt. grandfather);
Vishna bat Nachum TALALAY, born in 1882, in Mogilev, Belarus.

Nachum and Riva TALALAY died in a synogogue fire about 1886. After
this, the children (or perhaps only Yankel), went to live with Rabbi
Efraim DISKIN, also in Mogilev.

My problem (and thus will lead to the question) is that my
grandmother, Chiena TALALAY (born in 1914 in Mogilev, Belarus), has told
me that her father came >from Ekaterinoslav. We are trying to piece
together how she knew him to be >from Ekaterinoslav/Dnieperpetrovsk, when
we know >from the Mogilev Crown Rabbinate records that he was born in Mogilev.
We know there was some movement of Belarussian Jews to Ukraine in
this time period. They had made lands available there for settlers. That
possibly Yankel's parents went there after 1882, when their daughter was born.

So, the question:
Does anyone knows of any major pogroms about the time of 1886 when
Nachum and Riva TALALAY died? Perhaps, there is a record of a place or
a synagogue fire. I know most pogroms involved synagogue fires, but if
there are some in this time period in Ekaterinoslav/Dnieperpetrovsk,
then perhaps we can start looking there.

I will apreciate all help and / or suggestions.
Best Regards,
Alicia Jensen
Placentia, California, US
aliciajens@...

Always searching for:
TALALAY(I) / TAYLOR, DISKIN -Belarus to Michigan, US
WOHL, BROTT, FORTGANG -Austria / Poland to US
POTTER, BARROW, NEWSHAM -in England and to Canada to US
MADER , NIMPHER, KNAPP -Germany to US


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine 1886 pogrom in Ekaterinoslav? -TALALAY #ukraine

Alicia Jensen <aliciajens@...>
 

Hello all,
I am sending this query to the Ekaterinoslav Area Research Group as
well as this one, so I apologize if you subscribe to both and therefore
receive it twice.

Here is background of that I know:
My Gt.gt. grandfather, Nachum ben Nachman TALALAY, was born about 1856,
in Mogilev, Belarus.
He was married to Riva Ruchel bat Yosel (?), born about 1876, likely in
Mogilev, Belarus, also.
Their children were:
Yankel Moshe ben Nachum TALALAY, born Nov 1876, in Mogilev, Belarus (my
gt. grandfather);
Vishna bat Nachum TALALAY, born in 1882, in Mogilev, Belarus.

Nachum and Riva TALALAY died in a synogogue fire about 1886. After
this, the children (or perhaps only Yankel), went to live with Rabbi
Efraim DISKIN, also in Mogilev.

My problem (and thus will lead to the question) is that my
grandmother, Chiena TALALAY (born in 1914 in Mogilev, Belarus), has told
me that her father came >from Ekaterinoslav. We are trying to piece
together how she knew him to be >from Ekaterinoslav/Dnieperpetrovsk, when
we know >from the Mogilev Crown Rabbinate records that he was born in Mogilev.
We know there was some movement of Belarussian Jews to Ukraine in
this time period. They had made lands available there for settlers. That
possibly Yankel's parents went there after 1882, when their daughter was born.

So, the question:
Does anyone knows of any major pogroms about the time of 1886 when
Nachum and Riva TALALAY died? Perhaps, there is a record of a place or
a synagogue fire. I know most pogroms involved synagogue fires, but if
there are some in this time period in Ekaterinoslav/Dnieperpetrovsk,
then perhaps we can start looking there.

I will apreciate all help and / or suggestions.
Best Regards,
Alicia Jensen
Placentia, California, US
aliciajens@...

Always searching for:
TALALAY(I) / TAYLOR, DISKIN -Belarus to Michigan, US
WOHL, BROTT, FORTGANG -Austria / Poland to US
POTTER, BARROW, NEWSHAM -in England and to Canada to US
MADER , NIMPHER, KNAPP -Germany to US