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Alien Registration Number- useful in research? #general

Steven Jacobs <noahben99@...>
 

I recently received a copy of my grandfather's
Petition for Naturalization. The papers included his
Alien Registration number. I am wondering if anyone
knows if having this number could lead me to any new
information, such as an application he may have filled
out when applying for the alien registration number.
If so, could you give me any lead on how I persue
this?
What might I expect or hope to find?

Thanks!

Steven Jacobs


Re: Immigration to USA through Canada #general

Howard M. Rensin <hrensin@...>
 

The immigrant records of those entering Canada are in the Canadian
Archives in Ottawa and the U.S. records of those who crossed >from Canada are
in the National Archives in Washington with copies at different branches. I
believe the N.Y.C branch of the National Archives also has copies of those
records on microfilm.
The records of those who crossed >from Canada where often kept on 3x5
cards and that is the format you will see them in when you review the
microfilm. The hand writing can be 'challenging'.
Good luck.

My grandfather, Harry Weinar (originally Weinarab?), came to the USA
through Canada >from Russia (possible Sevestopol). Is there any way
one can find lists of immigrants who entered >from Canada? I don't
think he was in Canada for very long. Any ideas?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Alien Registration Number- useful in research? #general

Steven Jacobs <noahben99@...>
 

I recently received a copy of my grandfather's
Petition for Naturalization. The papers included his
Alien Registration number. I am wondering if anyone
knows if having this number could lead me to any new
information, such as an application he may have filled
out when applying for the alien registration number.
If so, could you give me any lead on how I persue
this?
What might I expect or hope to find?

Thanks!

Steven Jacobs


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Immigration to USA through Canada #general

Howard M. Rensin <hrensin@...>
 

The immigrant records of those entering Canada are in the Canadian
Archives in Ottawa and the U.S. records of those who crossed >from Canada are
in the National Archives in Washington with copies at different branches. I
believe the N.Y.C branch of the National Archives also has copies of those
records on microfilm.
The records of those who crossed >from Canada where often kept on 3x5
cards and that is the format you will see them in when you review the
microfilm. The hand writing can be 'challenging'.
Good luck.

My grandfather, Harry Weinar (originally Weinarab?), came to the USA
through Canada >from Russia (possible Sevestopol). Is there any way
one can find lists of immigrants who entered >from Canada? I don't
think he was in Canada for very long. Any ideas?


Re: Locating Kuzmina #hungary

AttilaRona@...
 

Beregszilv=E1s was in Bereg County, which was between M=E1ramaros and Szabol=
cs=20
Counties. Beth Long is correct, they are the same, Kuzmino is the Russian=20
name, now it is in Munkacsevo County.

Attila R=F3na


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Locating Kuzmina #hungary

AttilaRona@...
 

Beregszilv=E1s was in Bereg County, which was between M=E1ramaros and Szabol=
cs=20
Counties. Beth Long is correct, they are the same, Kuzmino is the Russian=20
name, now it is in Munkacsevo County.

Attila R=F3na


Re: áòðééï: 1828 tax census #hungary

Chaim Frenkel <chaimf@...>
 

Unusual among ashkenazim.

But what if the father died before the son was born.

<chaim>

"TS" == Tsvi Sinai <t_sinai1@netvision.net.il> writes:
TS> As it is quite unusual that a son has the same first name as his father
TS> unlike the Gentile
TS> custom - junior ), it would be his grandfather, which was and still is quite
TS> customary.

TS> Tsvi Sinai, Givatayim, Israel

On the 1828 census, only the names of heads of households are listed. Most
likely, this is the father of your g-g-grandfather, who had the same first
name.
--
Chaim Frenkel Nonlinear Knowledge, Inc.
chaimf@pobox.com +1-718-236-0183


Re: Jewish Naming Customs #hungary

Chaim Frenkel <chaimf@...>
 

Bukovina might be more inclined to the sephardic customs.

<chaim>

"DaB" == David and BethLong <dnblong@cts.com> writes:
DaB> Hello List;
DaB> Thanks to all who corrected me on the naming question. I'm not Jewish
DaB> myself, and was unaware of the custom. In my own research (Bukovina
DaB> Szekely), the opposite is true; the first son is nearly always named after
DaB> the father (and the first daughter after the mother)

DaB> Beth Long

DaB> As it is quite unusual that a son has the same first name as his father
DaB> unlike the Gentile
DaB> custom - junior ), it would be his grandfather, which was and still is
DaB> quite
DaB> customary.

--
Chaim Frenkel Nonlinear Knowledge, Inc.
chaimf@pobox.com +1-718-236-0183


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: áòðééï: 1828 tax census #hungary

Chaim Frenkel <chaimf@...>
 

Unusual among ashkenazim.

But what if the father died before the son was born.

<chaim>

"TS" == Tsvi Sinai <t_sinai1@netvision.net.il> writes:
TS> As it is quite unusual that a son has the same first name as his father
TS> unlike the Gentile
TS> custom - junior ), it would be his grandfather, which was and still is quite
TS> customary.

TS> Tsvi Sinai, Givatayim, Israel

On the 1828 census, only the names of heads of households are listed. Most
likely, this is the father of your g-g-grandfather, who had the same first
name.
--
Chaim Frenkel Nonlinear Knowledge, Inc.
chaimf@pobox.com +1-718-236-0183


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Jewish Naming Customs #hungary

Chaim Frenkel <chaimf@...>
 

Bukovina might be more inclined to the sephardic customs.

<chaim>

"DaB" == David and BethLong <dnblong@cts.com> writes:
DaB> Hello List;
DaB> Thanks to all who corrected me on the naming question. I'm not Jewish
DaB> myself, and was unaware of the custom. In my own research (Bukovina
DaB> Szekely), the opposite is true; the first son is nearly always named after
DaB> the father (and the first daughter after the mother)

DaB> Beth Long

DaB> As it is quite unusual that a son has the same first name as his father
DaB> unlike the Gentile
DaB> custom - junior ), it would be his grandfather, which was and still is
DaB> quite
DaB> customary.

--
Chaim Frenkel Nonlinear Knowledge, Inc.
chaimf@pobox.com +1-718-236-0183


Re: More 1869 census records #hungary

korman3 <korman3@...>
 

In reply to an inquiry about the status of filming in Nitra and
Bratislava, I got an interesting reply >from the Morman library in Salt
Lake. Apparently, 1869 census records for the counties of Bars,
Esztergom, Komarom, Nitra, Abuaj-Torna and Szepes have been added to the
catalog. The trick is that you can only get the film numbers >from the
catalog that is in Salt Lake, they are not online yet and are not on the
most recent CD roms that the branch libraries have.

I have asked them to send me a printout of all of the film numbers and
towns to which the films apply. Presuming that I receive this, I will
make the information available to all of you, probably by giving it to
our webmaster to somehow get it into the HSIG database.

As for the filming status, they declined to provide any information.

Debbi


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: More 1869 census records #hungary

korman3 <korman3@...>
 

In reply to an inquiry about the status of filming in Nitra and
Bratislava, I got an interesting reply >from the Morman library in Salt
Lake. Apparently, 1869 census records for the counties of Bars,
Esztergom, Komarom, Nitra, Abuaj-Torna and Szepes have been added to the
catalog. The trick is that you can only get the film numbers >from the
catalog that is in Salt Lake, they are not online yet and are not on the
most recent CD roms that the branch libraries have.

I have asked them to send me a printout of all of the film numbers and
towns to which the films apply. Presuming that I receive this, I will
make the information available to all of you, probably by giving it to
our webmaster to somehow get it into the HSIG database.

As for the filming status, they declined to provide any information.

Debbi


Re: US Census Records and the American Community Survey #hungary

Herb Meyers <herbiem@...>
 

The survey sounds much like the long census form some people received
last year as part of the regular census.

Herb Meyers
Boulder, CO
herbiem@mindspring.com

-----Original Message-----
From: moishe@langsam.com <moishe@langsam.com>
To: Hungarian SIG <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Date: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 1:16 PM
Subject: US Census Records and the American Community Survey


Hi,

I know there has been some talk of preserving your own census
responses. I
would like to present a new dimension to the US Census and ask if
anybody
knows if this also took place prior to 1930?

I just received >from the US Dept of Commerce an American Community
Survey.
The Census Bureau describes it as a survey to provide more timely data
than
data typically collected once every ten years. It is 22 pages long and
asks


*re: wisdom on name transliterations? #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Joan,

You raise a very important point in genealogical research, mainly
that of East European Jewish subjects surnames spellings. Borders,
rulers and languages have changed so much in that particular region
that it is almost *impossible* to establish the concept of EXACT
spelling.

In my own experience, I found over 15 different variations for the
family name Venetianer which is quite an unique surname. What can
then be said of common surnames such as Weisz, Klein or Schwartz?

Also, never forget that surnames could change according to the
predominant language at a given period of time. In Hungary, for
example, "magyarositas" was a very common practice. Wolf became
Farkas, Stern became Csillag, Weisz became Feher, Feldman became
Mezo:s or Mezei and Klein, Kiss (and so on). The same happened in
other countries of Eastern Europe. Even sephardi Jews, who fled >from
the Inquisition, took German names when they emigrated to German
speaking countries (Montefiori became Blumenthal, Nogueira turned
into Nussbaum and so on).

My personal opinion is that ALL variations must be investigated. One
way to establish if a given spelling variation is relevant is to run
a Daitch-Mokotoff (D-M) soundex test. Just to make my point, how
close are the spellings of the surnames Venetianer and Finazie? In
D-M soundex they are almost **identical**! (D-M # 763690 and 764000)

the best
Tom

At 00:00 -0600 03.01.01, Hungarian SIG digest wrote:
>| Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 19:46:23 -0500
>| X-Message-Number: 5
>|
>| I have been entering general data into a spreadsheet for a particular
>| Hungarian county for posting on H-SIG, and am wondering whether the group
>| has any wisdom on the most appropriate method to deal with last name
>| spelling issues. ... If anyone has any views on this, please let
>| me know.
>| --Joan Hartman
--
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. -.-.-
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: US Census Records and the American Community Survey #hungary

Herb Meyers <herbiem@...>
 

The survey sounds much like the long census form some people received
last year as part of the regular census.

Herb Meyers
Boulder, CO
herbiem@mindspring.com

-----Original Message-----
From: moishe@langsam.com <moishe@langsam.com>
To: Hungarian SIG <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Date: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 1:16 PM
Subject: US Census Records and the American Community Survey


Hi,

I know there has been some talk of preserving your own census
responses. I
would like to present a new dimension to the US Census and ask if
anybody
knows if this also took place prior to 1930?

I just received >from the US Dept of Commerce an American Community
Survey.
The Census Bureau describes it as a survey to provide more timely data
than
data typically collected once every ten years. It is 22 pages long and
asks


Hungary SIG #Hungary *re: wisdom on name transliterations? #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Joan,

You raise a very important point in genealogical research, mainly
that of East European Jewish subjects surnames spellings. Borders,
rulers and languages have changed so much in that particular region
that it is almost *impossible* to establish the concept of EXACT
spelling.

In my own experience, I found over 15 different variations for the
family name Venetianer which is quite an unique surname. What can
then be said of common surnames such as Weisz, Klein or Schwartz?

Also, never forget that surnames could change according to the
predominant language at a given period of time. In Hungary, for
example, "magyarositas" was a very common practice. Wolf became
Farkas, Stern became Csillag, Weisz became Feher, Feldman became
Mezo:s or Mezei and Klein, Kiss (and so on). The same happened in
other countries of Eastern Europe. Even sephardi Jews, who fled >from
the Inquisition, took German names when they emigrated to German
speaking countries (Montefiori became Blumenthal, Nogueira turned
into Nussbaum and so on).

My personal opinion is that ALL variations must be investigated. One
way to establish if a given spelling variation is relevant is to run
a Daitch-Mokotoff (D-M) soundex test. Just to make my point, how
close are the spellings of the surnames Venetianer and Finazie? In
D-M soundex they are almost **identical**! (D-M # 763690 and 764000)

the best
Tom

At 00:00 -0600 03.01.01, Hungarian SIG digest wrote:
>| Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 19:46:23 -0500
>| X-Message-Number: 5
>|
>| I have been entering general data into a spreadsheet for a particular
>| Hungarian county for posting on H-SIG, and am wondering whether the group
>| has any wisdom on the most appropriate method to deal with last name
>| spelling issues. ... If anyone has any views on this, please let
>| me know.
>| --Joan Hartman
--
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. -.-.-
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Re: Workmen's Circle, Arbeter Ring #general

Elliott Terman <termite@...>
 

My MGF and MGM are buried in the Workmen's Circle, Arbiter Ring in the
Wellwood Cemetery in Pinelawn, NY. If you feel so inclined you could
contact the cemetery office. I do not have a current telephone number
right close to me ... but, the number can be gotten >from information
... and even online. Go to http://www.switchboard.com
Elliott Terman
New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Workmen's Circle, Arbeter Ring #general

Elliott Terman <termite@...>
 

My MGF and MGM are buried in the Workmen's Circle, Arbiter Ring in the
Wellwood Cemetery in Pinelawn, NY. If you feel so inclined you could
contact the cemetery office. I do not have a current telephone number
right close to me ... but, the number can be gotten >from information
... and even online. Go to http://www.switchboard.com
Elliott Terman
New York


Social Security App for Louis C KATZ #general

Kathy Keane <kkfish@...>
 

Hi everyone: I received the following Social Security Application, and its
not my grandfather (darn!). I would be happy to mail it to its rightful
owner:

Louis Charles KATZ
125 B. W. 168th Street, Bronx New York
Business: Bloomingdales
age: 37
DOB: 9/15/1900
Born: NYC
father David Katz
Mother Regina Freyer
dated 11/22/1937

Kathy Keane
Hermosa Beach CA
kkfish@earthlink.net


Need Info on British 106 Bomber Squadron #general

David Rosner
 

My Uncle was a "Yank in the RAF" and served with the 106 Bomber Squadron
(Lancasters) until he was Killed in Action, during 1943.

His name was Eugene Rosner, born 1920-21

if anyone has any information on the Squadron at all, I'd appreciate it...



David Rosner
ICQ: 44826086
Searching:
REISZ, TESCHNER, KOHN, WILHELM, ZERKOWITZ - Trencin County, Hungary
ROSNER, LAUFER - Bukovina --> USA, ISR
MARCOVICI, MANDEL - Dorohoi, Romania --> USA, ISR, FRA
SHURE - Bryansk, Russia ---> USA; MALMBERG - Sweden
KAPLAN - Zagare, Lithuania ---> USA, SAF
ANTMAN - Russia; OLIAS - Poland; BLOCH, BLOCK - Lithuania