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Rabbi Chaim Yehuda Leib Tiktinski - Mir #general

Louise Jamieson <louise@...>
 

Can anybody help me on my quest?

Are there any descendents of Rabbi Chaim Yehuda Leib TIKTINSKI?

Does anyone have a connection to the family name of Tiktinski?

I am trying to determine if there is a link between the name 'Novogrudsky'
and the name 'Tiktinski'.

Many thanks,

Louise Glasspoole
Louise@ljamieson.fsnet.co.uk


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rabbi Chaim Yehuda Leib Tiktinski - Mir #general

Louise Jamieson <louise@...>
 

Can anybody help me on my quest?

Are there any descendents of Rabbi Chaim Yehuda Leib TIKTINSKI?

Does anyone have a connection to the family name of Tiktinski?

I am trying to determine if there is a link between the name 'Novogrudsky'
and the name 'Tiktinski'.

Many thanks,

Louise Glasspoole
Louise@ljamieson.fsnet.co.uk


BERKENGOFF #general

K Fishman <kfishman@...>
 

I wonder if any subscribers to this list can enlighten me on the origins of
the name BERKENGOFF. It features in my KAMINSKY/COMENSKY family tree (one
of my maternal grandmother's sisters married an Abe Berkengoff in Scotland)
I would be interested to know more about the origins of the name, as it does
not feature in either FTJP or JGFF ( apart >from my own entries, of course!)

Any help will be most welcome
Kathy Fishman
Glasgow

Researching: FISHMAN, KAMINSKY/COMINSKY/COMENSKY, BERKENGOFF, KISLUCK,
VOSHKANSKY, KLEMPNER


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen BERKENGOFF #general

K Fishman <kfishman@...>
 

I wonder if any subscribers to this list can enlighten me on the origins of
the name BERKENGOFF. It features in my KAMINSKY/COMENSKY family tree (one
of my maternal grandmother's sisters married an Abe Berkengoff in Scotland)
I would be interested to know more about the origins of the name, as it does
not feature in either FTJP or JGFF ( apart >from my own entries, of course!)

Any help will be most welcome
Kathy Fishman
Glasgow

Researching: FISHMAN, KAMINSKY/COMINSKY/COMENSKY, BERKENGOFF, KISLUCK,
VOSHKANSKY, KLEMPNER


Travel by land from Warsaw to L'Vov? #general

pd fisher <fisherpaul@...>
 

Has anyone traveled by land >from Warsaw to L'Vov?

That is by automobile, train or bus. If so, could you please e-mail me
privately about your experience.

Paul Fisher
St. Paul, MN

searching 30 miles >from Warsaw (in Wyzkow) and 115 miles South of L'Vov
(Grymalov area)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Travel by land from Warsaw to L'Vov? #general

pd fisher <fisherpaul@...>
 

Has anyone traveled by land >from Warsaw to L'Vov?

That is by automobile, train or bus. If so, could you please e-mail me
privately about your experience.

Paul Fisher
St. Paul, MN

searching 30 miles >from Warsaw (in Wyzkow) and 115 miles South of L'Vov
(Grymalov area)


Social Security and Citizenship #general

LindaJim Morzillo <jmorzil1@...>
 

Deb Degato asked:

<<How did the Social Security admin. know he was a citizen? >>

I don't think that one had to be a citizen to obtain a Social Security
number in 1940. My grandfather applied for his on 1936 and he did not
become a citizen until 1945. If I am not mistaken, anyone who works in the
United States today needs a SSI, citizen, resident alien, etc. Hope this
helps.

Linda Morzillo

Saratoga Springs, NY
Jmorzil1@nycap.rr.com

Researching:

PRESS and SCHNEIDER in Vidukle and Kaunas
AMCHISLAVSKY and ERLICHMAN in Rostov-on-Don and previously Kozelsk and
Oster, Chernigov Gubernia
COHEN/KAGAN and BORNSTEIN in Oshmyany, Vilna and France
KOSOFSKY in Stuchin/Szczuczyn/Shchuchyn/Scucyn
SWOTINSKY in Grodno Gubernia Poland/Russia/Belarus


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Social Security and Citizenship #general

LindaJim Morzillo <jmorzil1@...>
 

Deb Degato asked:

<<How did the Social Security admin. know he was a citizen? >>

I don't think that one had to be a citizen to obtain a Social Security
number in 1940. My grandfather applied for his on 1936 and he did not
become a citizen until 1945. If I am not mistaken, anyone who works in the
United States today needs a SSI, citizen, resident alien, etc. Hope this
helps.

Linda Morzillo

Saratoga Springs, NY
Jmorzil1@nycap.rr.com

Researching:

PRESS and SCHNEIDER in Vidukle and Kaunas
AMCHISLAVSKY and ERLICHMAN in Rostov-on-Don and previously Kozelsk and
Oster, Chernigov Gubernia
COHEN/KAGAN and BORNSTEIN in Oshmyany, Vilna and France
KOSOFSKY in Stuchin/Szczuczyn/Shchuchyn/Scucyn
SWOTINSKY in Grodno Gubernia Poland/Russia/Belarus


Direct and Indirect Descendants #general

Udi Cain
 

From: Leslie Reich
Date: 25 Jan 2001
Subject: Direct and Indirect Descendants

I keep seeing references to "Direct Descendants".

Can somebody inform me - and perhaps also others - what an "Indirect
Descendant is?

Leslie Reich, Salford, England
Dear Leslie.

I'm sure that if you refer to the "Yichus"/"Yihus" (attribution) searchers,
you are "directly" right.
But any claim that there can be an indirect descendant, is something tom
professor Einstein's theory about relatively, or that of Darwin with his
"monkey business".

Best regards. Udi Cain.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Direct and Indirect Descendants #general

Udi Cain
 

From: Leslie Reich
Date: 25 Jan 2001
Subject: Direct and Indirect Descendants

I keep seeing references to "Direct Descendants".

Can somebody inform me - and perhaps also others - what an "Indirect
Descendant is?

Leslie Reich, Salford, England
Dear Leslie.

I'm sure that if you refer to the "Yichus"/"Yihus" (attribution) searchers,
you are "directly" right.
But any claim that there can be an indirect descendant, is something tom
professor Einstein's theory about relatively, or that of Darwin with his
"monkey business".

Best regards. Udi Cain.


Re: Direct and Indirect Descendants #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 


I keep seeing references to "Direct Descendants".

Can somebody inform me - and perhaps also others - what an "Indirect
Descendant is?

Leslie Reich, Salford, England
Leslie's rhetorical question is well taken. Of course he is quire right:
one is either a person's direct descendant or no descendant at all. But
some people specify "direct descendant" because in common parlance the term
"ancestor" is often used loosely, to include the siblings and collaterals
of one's actual ("direct") forebear. By the same token, the term
"desendant" is sometimes loosely used to include people descended from
collaterals of the ancestor under discussion. Therefore, the term
"direct descendant" is sometimes used to emphasize a direct line .

Judith Romney Wegner


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Direct and Indirect Descendants #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 


I keep seeing references to "Direct Descendants".

Can somebody inform me - and perhaps also others - what an "Indirect
Descendant is?

Leslie Reich, Salford, England
Leslie's rhetorical question is well taken. Of course he is quire right:
one is either a person's direct descendant or no descendant at all. But
some people specify "direct descendant" because in common parlance the term
"ancestor" is often used loosely, to include the siblings and collaterals
of one's actual ("direct") forebear. By the same token, the term
"desendant" is sometimes loosely used to include people descended from
collaterals of the ancestor under discussion. Therefore, the term
"direct descendant" is sometimes used to emphasize a direct line .

Judith Romney Wegner


Re: Direct and Indirect Descendants #general

trmclell@...
 

Leslie Reich wrote:

I keep seeing references to "Direct Descendants".

Can somebody inform me - and perhaps also others - what an "Indirect
Descendant is?

Leslie Reich, Salford, England

I have always used these terms in this manner:

Direct Descendants = Children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren, etc.
A straight line down on the family tree

Indirect Descendants = Nieces, Nephews, cousins, etc.
A jog to one side on the family tree

Hope this helps,
Maurine Bothman McLellan
Stilwell, KS, USA

Searching: BOTHMAN BEJACH FLEISCHER SACHS


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Direct and Indirect Descendants #general

trmclell@...
 

Leslie Reich wrote:

I keep seeing references to "Direct Descendants".

Can somebody inform me - and perhaps also others - what an "Indirect
Descendant is?

Leslie Reich, Salford, England

I have always used these terms in this manner:

Direct Descendants = Children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren, etc.
A straight line down on the family tree

Indirect Descendants = Nieces, Nephews, cousins, etc.
A jog to one side on the family tree

Hope this helps,
Maurine Bothman McLellan
Stilwell, KS, USA

Searching: BOTHMAN BEJACH FLEISCHER SACHS


Camp Normana #general

anitag <anitag@...>
 

I am interested in any information about Camp Normana that was constructed
in 1929 in the Palisades Interestate Park which provided a free vacation for
several Bronx children every year. Also any info about Aaron Norman
(constructed the camp) and President of the Home for Hebrew Infants in The
Bronx in 1915. Does anyone who if the camp in still in use? Would I be
able to obtain a picture of the facility anywhere? Your help will be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Anita Goldberg


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Camp Normana #general

anitag <anitag@...>
 

I am interested in any information about Camp Normana that was constructed
in 1929 in the Palisades Interestate Park which provided a free vacation for
several Bronx children every year. Also any info about Aaron Norman
(constructed the camp) and President of the Home for Hebrew Infants in The
Bronx in 1915. Does anyone who if the camp in still in use? Would I be
able to obtain a picture of the facility anywhere? Your help will be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Anita Goldberg


Gersh is not Gershon #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Roy Ogus wrote:

I know that the Yiddish given name Hirsh/Girsh is a kinui for the
Hebrew name Tzvi. Does anyone know whether the given name "Gershon" is
derived >from the same name Girsh/Hirsh, or has some other root?
The answer is that Gershon is totally unconnected with Hirsch/Girsch. It
is an original biblical Hebrew name, not a relatively modern Yiddish one!
But even had you asked the question the other way round (i.e., "does Gersh
come >from Gershon?") it still wouldn't work! It seems you were
bumsteered by overlooking the fact that the spelling "Gersh" occurs only
because G is the letter used by Russian for the H sound in the German word
Hirsch.

In the names Gershon and Gershom (which are two different names but both
biblical!) the G represents the Hebrew letter Gimel, having no connection
whatsoever with the sound "H" or with any Russian or German word. We need
to keep these three unrelated languages separate in our minds, to avoid
invalid trans-linguistic speculations.

The name Gershom appears in Exodus 2:22 as the firstborn of Moses. The
name Gershon appears at Exodus 6:16 as the firstborn of Levi (who was the
third son of Jacob and Leah).

Judith Romney Wegner


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Gersh is not Gershon #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Roy Ogus wrote:

I know that the Yiddish given name Hirsh/Girsh is a kinui for the
Hebrew name Tzvi. Does anyone know whether the given name "Gershon" is
derived >from the same name Girsh/Hirsh, or has some other root?
The answer is that Gershon is totally unconnected with Hirsch/Girsch. It
is an original biblical Hebrew name, not a relatively modern Yiddish one!
But even had you asked the question the other way round (i.e., "does Gersh
come >from Gershon?") it still wouldn't work! It seems you were
bumsteered by overlooking the fact that the spelling "Gersh" occurs only
because G is the letter used by Russian for the H sound in the German word
Hirsch.

In the names Gershon and Gershom (which are two different names but both
biblical!) the G represents the Hebrew letter Gimel, having no connection
whatsoever with the sound "H" or with any Russian or German word. We need
to keep these three unrelated languages separate in our minds, to avoid
invalid trans-linguistic speculations.

The name Gershom appears in Exodus 2:22 as the firstborn of Moses. The
name Gershon appears at Exodus 6:16 as the firstborn of Levi (who was the
third son of Jacob and Leah).

Judith Romney Wegner


new messages #hungary

Louis Schonfeld <Lmagyar@...>
 

Dear people of the list,

Obviously, messages have been far and few the past several days. Now would
be a good oportunity to share with us the family names and ancestral towns
that you are researching. Even if you have posted this information at one
time, feel free to do so again.

Even though most of my time during a recent visit to Israel was taken up
with genealogy related matters, and visiting with H-siggers throughout
Israel, (apologies to those who live beyond the Green Line- I'm not that
brave!)I have yet to prepare a "trip" report. I still hope to do so, but it
may have to wait until after a follow-up visit there in a few months.
In the meantime, I will share specific items that I learned during that
trip and which may be helpful to others.


Dr. Yehoshua Buchler gave me a photocopied letterhead >from the Slovak
Genealogical-Heraldic Society at the Matica slovenska, headed by Dr. Milan
Sismis. They have a website - www.genealogy-heraldry.sk ; e-mail for Dr.
Sismis is sismis@matica.sk There is a researcher there who I beleive
specializes in Slovak Jewish families. I only have a last name: Weinberger.
The institute's fax number is 421/842-33188 and the telephone is
421/842-31372. The mailing address is Nam. J.C. Hronskenho 1 / 036 52
Martin / Slovakia. Has anyone had experience with this institute?


Best wishes

Louis Schonfeld
Cleveland, OH

visit my shtetlsite: www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Mukachevo/


Hungary SIG #Hungary new messages #hungary

Louis Schonfeld <Lmagyar@...>
 

Dear people of the list,

Obviously, messages have been far and few the past several days. Now would
be a good oportunity to share with us the family names and ancestral towns
that you are researching. Even if you have posted this information at one
time, feel free to do so again.

Even though most of my time during a recent visit to Israel was taken up
with genealogy related matters, and visiting with H-siggers throughout
Israel, (apologies to those who live beyond the Green Line- I'm not that
brave!)I have yet to prepare a "trip" report. I still hope to do so, but it
may have to wait until after a follow-up visit there in a few months.
In the meantime, I will share specific items that I learned during that
trip and which may be helpful to others.


Dr. Yehoshua Buchler gave me a photocopied letterhead >from the Slovak
Genealogical-Heraldic Society at the Matica slovenska, headed by Dr. Milan
Sismis. They have a website - www.genealogy-heraldry.sk ; e-mail for Dr.
Sismis is sismis@matica.sk There is a researcher there who I beleive
specializes in Slovak Jewish families. I only have a last name: Weinberger.
The institute's fax number is 421/842-33188 and the telephone is
421/842-31372. The mailing address is Nam. J.C. Hronskenho 1 / 036 52
Martin / Slovakia. Has anyone had experience with this institute?


Best wishes

Louis Schonfeld
Cleveland, OH

visit my shtetlsite: www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Mukachevo/