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A map site of Slovakia for browsing and zooming. #hungary

Dolph Klein <kledolph@...>
 

I happened to find this map site of present day Slovakia. Perhaps, this
site has already been mentioned in the JewishGen discussion groups. The
format is similar to the browsing and zooming functions of Mapquest. I was
able to zoom in at the scale of 1:5000 on the larger towns and read the
street names, and to about 1:60,000 at the village level. The site offers
the choice of Slovak or English texts and it does not seem to require the
use of diacritic marks for searching specific towns.
http://mapy.atlas.sk/aquariusnet/frm_uvod.asp

Dolph Klein
Chapel Hill, NC


Re: 1944 Jewish Census #hungary

Gábor Hirsch <hirsch@...>
 

As for some reason, my mail arrived as an unvisible blanc page, I resed
it in pure ASCII form
Best regards
Gabor Hirsch
PS. I hope that the third time I will have more success

Tom Venetianer wrote:

> For the sake of those who like historic details, this is the
> chronology which lead to the above census (source R. Braham - Politics
> of Genocide):
>
> March 19, 1944: German forces occupy Hungary. Eichmann's cronies order
> the Jewish community leaders to meet with him on the following day.
>
> March 20, 1944: Instructions are issued by the Eichmann office to the
> national leaders of Hungarian Jewry, ordering them to form a Jewish
> Council (Judenrat) that will exercise jurisdiction over all Jews in
> the country.
>
> March 21, 1944: An eight member Jewish Council is formed in Budapest
> under Samu Stern's leadership.
>
> March 22, 1944: A new puppet government is formed under the leadership
> of Dome Sztojay (prime-minister).
>
> March 28, 1944: Laszlo Baky is appointed Secretary of State in the
> Ministry of Interior.
>
> March 29, 1944: The Sztojay led Council of Ministry issues a series of
> anti-Jewish decrees, among them the obligation to wear the Yellow Star
> of David by all Jews (Decree 1240/1944)
>
> April 4, 1944: Baky chairs meeting at the Ministry of Interior on the
> ghettoization of Hungarian Jews. MINISTRY OF INTERIOR ISSUES DECREE
> REQUIRING THE REGISTRATION OF ALL JEWS.
>
> May 15, 1944: The systematic mass deportation of the Jews of Hungary
> begins in Carpatho- Ruthenia, northeastern Hungary and Northern
> Transylvania.

Tom showed us the chronology which led to the deportation, in Braham's
book "Politics of Genocide" a some more information on the order of the
Jewish census in 1944 see bellow
_____________________________________________________________________

The draft document relating to the roundup, ghettoization,
concentration, and deportation of the Jews--the basis of the April 4
discussion-- was prepared by Endre. It was issued secretly as Decree No.
6163/1944.res. on April 7 over the signature of Baky. This most fateful
document, addressed to the representatives of the local organs of state
power, spelled out the procedures to be followed in the campaign to
bring about the Final Solution of the Jewish question in Hungary.
Supplementary specific details about the measures to be taken against
the Jews were spelled out in several highly confidential directives,
emphasizing that the Jews destined for deportation were to be rounded up
without regard to sex, age, or illness.

The first concrete directives for the implementation of the decree were
issued by the minister of the interior three days before the top secret
decree was actually sent out. In a secret order, the minister instructed
all the subordinate mayoral, police, and gendarmerie organs to bring
about the registration of the Jews by the appropriate local Jewish
institutions. These lists, containing all family members, exact
addresses, and the mother's name of all those listed, were to be
prepared in four copies, with one copy to be handed over to the local
police authorities, one to the appropriate gendarmerie command, and a
third to be forwarded to the Ministry of the Interior. To make sure that
no Jews would escape the net, another registration order was issued by
the minister of supply, allegedly to regulate the allocation of food for
die Jews.


Hungary SIG #Hungary A map site of Slovakia for browsing and zooming. #hungary

Dolph Klein <kledolph@...>
 

I happened to find this map site of present day Slovakia. Perhaps, this
site has already been mentioned in the JewishGen discussion groups. The
format is similar to the browsing and zooming functions of Mapquest. I was
able to zoom in at the scale of 1:5000 on the larger towns and read the
street names, and to about 1:60,000 at the village level. The site offers
the choice of Slovak or English texts and it does not seem to require the
use of diacritic marks for searching specific towns.
http://mapy.atlas.sk/aquariusnet/frm_uvod.asp

Dolph Klein
Chapel Hill, NC


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: 1944 Jewish Census #hungary

Gábor Hirsch <hirsch@...>
 

As for some reason, my mail arrived as an unvisible blanc page, I resed
it in pure ASCII form
Best regards
Gabor Hirsch
PS. I hope that the third time I will have more success

Tom Venetianer wrote:

> For the sake of those who like historic details, this is the
> chronology which lead to the above census (source R. Braham - Politics
> of Genocide):
>
> March 19, 1944: German forces occupy Hungary. Eichmann's cronies order
> the Jewish community leaders to meet with him on the following day.
>
> March 20, 1944: Instructions are issued by the Eichmann office to the
> national leaders of Hungarian Jewry, ordering them to form a Jewish
> Council (Judenrat) that will exercise jurisdiction over all Jews in
> the country.
>
> March 21, 1944: An eight member Jewish Council is formed in Budapest
> under Samu Stern's leadership.
>
> March 22, 1944: A new puppet government is formed under the leadership
> of Dome Sztojay (prime-minister).
>
> March 28, 1944: Laszlo Baky is appointed Secretary of State in the
> Ministry of Interior.
>
> March 29, 1944: The Sztojay led Council of Ministry issues a series of
> anti-Jewish decrees, among them the obligation to wear the Yellow Star
> of David by all Jews (Decree 1240/1944)
>
> April 4, 1944: Baky chairs meeting at the Ministry of Interior on the
> ghettoization of Hungarian Jews. MINISTRY OF INTERIOR ISSUES DECREE
> REQUIRING THE REGISTRATION OF ALL JEWS.
>
> May 15, 1944: The systematic mass deportation of the Jews of Hungary
> begins in Carpatho- Ruthenia, northeastern Hungary and Northern
> Transylvania.

Tom showed us the chronology which led to the deportation, in Braham's
book "Politics of Genocide" a some more information on the order of the
Jewish census in 1944 see bellow
_____________________________________________________________________

The draft document relating to the roundup, ghettoization,
concentration, and deportation of the Jews--the basis of the April 4
discussion-- was prepared by Endre. It was issued secretly as Decree No.
6163/1944.res. on April 7 over the signature of Baky. This most fateful
document, addressed to the representatives of the local organs of state
power, spelled out the procedures to be followed in the campaign to
bring about the Final Solution of the Jewish question in Hungary.
Supplementary specific details about the measures to be taken against
the Jews were spelled out in several highly confidential directives,
emphasizing that the Jews destined for deportation were to be rounded up
without regard to sex, age, or illness.

The first concrete directives for the implementation of the decree were
issued by the minister of the interior three days before the top secret
decree was actually sent out. In a secret order, the minister instructed
all the subordinate mayoral, police, and gendarmerie organs to bring
about the registration of the Jews by the appropriate local Jewish
institutions. These lists, containing all family members, exact
addresses, and the mother's name of all those listed, were to be
prepared in four copies, with one copy to be handed over to the local
police authorities, one to the appropriate gendarmerie command, and a
third to be forwarded to the Ministry of the Interior. To make sure that
no Jews would escape the net, another registration order was issued by
the minister of supply, allegedly to regulate the allocation of food for
die Jews.


Re: ispan? #hungary

Ilan Kozma <kozmai@...>
 

hazalo is peddlar,

napszamos is indeed a daily laborer.
Ilan Kozma



Margarita Lacko wrote:

Dear H-siggers,

Looking at the Gyongyos microfilms, I found a word that looks like "ispan"
(ispán) as a profession.
One person is listed as a "segev" or "seger", a "hazalo" and a napszamos,
as well as "ispan", in different places.
<snip>


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: ispan? #hungary

Ilan Kozma <kozmai@...>
 

hazalo is peddlar,

napszamos is indeed a daily laborer.
Ilan Kozma



Margarita Lacko wrote:

Dear H-siggers,

Looking at the Gyongyos microfilms, I found a word that looks like "ispan"
(ispán) as a profession.
One person is listed as a "segev" or "seger", a "hazalo" and a napszamos,
as well as "ispan", in different places.
<snip>


Re: ispan? #hungary

Robert Neu
 

These probably already appear in the profession email in h-sig archive:
ispar(os) : tradesman
napszamos: day labourer (not employed at a specific place)
seged: helper/assistant (not somebody with a qualification)
hazalo: peddler (selling door to door)
Robert Neu
--- Margarita Lacko <mishpologia@uzidog.com> wrote:
Dear H-siggers,

Looking at the Gyongyos microfilms, I found a word that looks like
"ispan"
(ispán) as a profession.
One person is listed as a "segev" or "seger", a "hazalo" and a
napszamos,
as well as "ispan", in different places.

"segev" or "seger" could be "seged", an apprentice. Which is strange
because at that time he was already married and had two children.
This is
mentioned on the third child's birth (1887). There is no mention of
profession before that (wedding or first two children).

When his 4th child was born (1889), he was a "napszamos" (I
understand this
to be a day labourer). On another record, for the same child's birth,
it
says "hazalo" (házaló).

When his 5th child was born (1890), he was a "hazalo" (házaló).

In 1891, when his 4th child died, he was an "ispan".

Could someone tell me what these words might mean?

Thank you in advance,

Margarita Lackó
from "the island" in Miami
GENEALOGY: © mishpologia@uzidog.com
uzidog@the-beach.net
Moderator: Check the H-SIG archives to find a long list of Hungarian names for trades, professions, and occupations submitted by Tom Venetianer.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: ispan? #hungary

Robert Neu
 

These probably already appear in the profession email in h-sig archive:
ispar(os) : tradesman
napszamos: day labourer (not employed at a specific place)
seged: helper/assistant (not somebody with a qualification)
hazalo: peddler (selling door to door)
Robert Neu
--- Margarita Lacko <mishpologia@uzidog.com> wrote:
Dear H-siggers,

Looking at the Gyongyos microfilms, I found a word that looks like
"ispan"
(ispán) as a profession.
One person is listed as a "segev" or "seger", a "hazalo" and a
napszamos,
as well as "ispan", in different places.

"segev" or "seger" could be "seged", an apprentice. Which is strange
because at that time he was already married and had two children.
This is
mentioned on the third child's birth (1887). There is no mention of
profession before that (wedding or first two children).

When his 4th child was born (1889), he was a "napszamos" (I
understand this
to be a day labourer). On another record, for the same child's birth,
it
says "hazalo" (házaló).

When his 5th child was born (1890), he was a "hazalo" (házaló).

In 1891, when his 4th child died, he was an "ispan".

Could someone tell me what these words might mean?

Thank you in advance,

Margarita Lackó
from "the island" in Miami
GENEALOGY: © mishpologia@uzidog.com
uzidog@the-beach.net
Moderator: Check the H-SIG archives to find a long list of Hungarian names for trades, professions, and occupations submitted by Tom Venetianer.


Re: Please translate Viewmate #1384 #hungary

Robert Neu
 

Here is an approximate rendition:
Concerning your inquiry to the War Archives, searching the phonetic
data base we have found a hospital stay card for a Katz David born in
1887. (see the reproduction below)

Further military records could not be found.

For the home country records in Hungary you can consult , The Military
and War History Library , Kapisztran=ter 2, II- 1250 Budapest

...

The following can be deciphered >from the copied document:

David Katz, born 1887 in Tasso (check spelling), Marmaros, Hungary
The card was made in Sopron.
He had bronchitis.
The card was done July 30, 1918.
He was inducted in 1915.

There is a card number (top left)
Some info I can't decipher:
Top box 3rd >from left
2nd row >from left. first box: the military unit he was attached to.
boxes above bottom right: last and next to last on right
Robert Neu

--- Cohentalk@aol.com wrote:

Dear Members,

This is the direct address to Viewmate:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html

It is item #1384

I rushed a couple of steps in the process the other day. My items
are now
READY
to view. I believe the letter is in German. I will appreciate
whatever and
everything you can tell me about them. Thanks for your help.

Regards,
Linda Cohen

KATZ >from Sapinta RO(Szaplonca) & Tyachevo UKR(Tecso)
KATZ-WEISS-AXELRATH-EISENBERG >from Mukachevo UKR(Munkacs)
EISENBERG >from Sobatin UKR(Szobatin) & Zsukove UKR(Zsuko)
SCHWARCZ >from Patskanove UKR (Patskanosz)
EPSTEIN & ROTHMAN >from Nevelozh, Slutsk Belarus
DRUCKER & BECKER >from Ludmir, Vladymir Volhynia UKR


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Please translate Viewmate #1384 #hungary

Robert Neu
 

Here is an approximate rendition:
Concerning your inquiry to the War Archives, searching the phonetic
data base we have found a hospital stay card for a Katz David born in
1887. (see the reproduction below)

Further military records could not be found.

For the home country records in Hungary you can consult , The Military
and War History Library , Kapisztran=ter 2, II- 1250 Budapest

...

The following can be deciphered >from the copied document:

David Katz, born 1887 in Tasso (check spelling), Marmaros, Hungary
The card was made in Sopron.
He had bronchitis.
The card was done July 30, 1918.
He was inducted in 1915.

There is a card number (top left)
Some info I can't decipher:
Top box 3rd >from left
2nd row >from left. first box: the military unit he was attached to.
boxes above bottom right: last and next to last on right
Robert Neu

--- Cohentalk@aol.com wrote:

Dear Members,

This is the direct address to Viewmate:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html

It is item #1384

I rushed a couple of steps in the process the other day. My items
are now
READY
to view. I believe the letter is in German. I will appreciate
whatever and
everything you can tell me about them. Thanks for your help.

Regards,
Linda Cohen

KATZ >from Sapinta RO(Szaplonca) & Tyachevo UKR(Tecso)
KATZ-WEISS-AXELRATH-EISENBERG >from Mukachevo UKR(Munkacs)
EISENBERG >from Sobatin UKR(Szobatin) & Zsukove UKR(Zsuko)
SCHWARCZ >from Patskanove UKR (Patskanosz)
EPSTEIN & ROTHMAN >from Nevelozh, Slutsk Belarus
DRUCKER & BECKER >from Ludmir, Vladymir Volhynia UKR


Klein, Blau, Berkovits, and others #hungary

Audrey Ellyce Kutas <akutas@...>
 

Dear H-siggers,

I've been on this list for about 2 years now, but really needed to do some
more of my own research before any info >from this list could help me. I'm
at a point where I've collected as many names and dates as I think
possible >from my eldest living relative (in the united states that speaks
hungarian). It would be much appreciated if you could offer any help
or gear me into the right direction. Below is most of the info I have.
If I am missing some key components, let me know and I'll see if i can
find out. Thanks so much!

Audrey Kutas

1) My father's parents are Sandor Kutas (born Klein) May 19, 1925, and
Eszter Szucsanyi born April 29, 1929 in Fulpos, Hungary. Both my father
(Tamas Kutas b. nov 18, 1951) and his sister (Marta Kutas b. September
2, 1949) were born in Budapest.

2) Eszter's parents were Janos Szucsanyi (no dates, but I know he died
young in a horseback riding accident), and Ilona Petnehazy who died in
WWII. Eszter's siblings, one of which is still living in Hungary
today. I would write her a letter but I don't know Hungarian. I'm also
not sure which of the siblings are living, but for sure one of the
sisters:

a) Ilona b. 1924, married Laszlo Htey, son Laszlo, lived in Debrecen
b) Sara b. 1926, married Elek Dedjen and three songs Zoltan, Ocsi,
and Bela (all sons have their own children), lived in Hodasz
c) Maria b. abt. 1931 or 1932, never married, died in her 60s
d) Sandor b. abt. 1933, d. in mid-1980s, married Ilona, two daughters Nora
and Maria
e) Barbara b. abt. 1935, married Andras Kondas, two sons (one Atila?) and
lived in Nyirbator
f) Laszlo b. abt. 1937, married Mandyl, two daughters Maria and Eszter,
lived in Nyirgelse

3) Sandor (Klein's) parents were Andor Klein and Maria Blau. I don't have
dates for them, they also both died in WWII. Andor's parents' names are
Jakob Klein and Gizella Berkovits. He was an only child. Maria's
parents' names are David Blau and Fani. Maria's siblings' names are Pepi,
Eszti, Roza, Antal (no dates, all d. WWII) Eszti's daughter's
name is Florence Lubowski, the mother of Chaim Witz, also known as Gene
Simmons >from the rock band KISS.

Sandor's siblings are:
a) Elizabeth b. 1921 (living in NY),
b) Barbara b. 1923, married Miklos Gyarmati, d. in U.S. 1988,
c) Erno Klein b. 1927 (d. WWII),
d) Tibor b. January 1, 1929 (living in Israel),
e) Deszo b. 1931 (d.WWII),
f) Gyorgy b. 1933 (d.WWII)

Thank you so much for your time! Any help or direction would be
appreciated


Re: Wiener-Neustadt #hungary

Robert Neu
 

Appreciate your suggestion. I realize that Wiener-Neustadt was never
part of Hungary. Does anyone know where this book can be consulted. In
any case there were Jews there in the 19th century, and the question is
where did they worship, in order to find the records. As indicated once
before I am going to look at the Burgenland congregations, as
Wiener-Neustadt was really at the Austro-Hungarian border, which I
would believe was only an administrative border.
Robert Neu
--- Polakovic Daniel <daniel.polakovic@jewishmuseum.cz> wrote:

Bs"d

The small city Wiener-Neustadt never belonged to Hungary, it's a few
kilometer >from Vienna. On the Jewish history there see Pollak, Max:
Die
Juden in Wiener-Neustadt. Ein Beitrag zur Geschichte der Juden in
Oesterreich. Wien 1927. 119 p. This book was published in Hungarian
before.
With the best wishes,
Yours sincerely

Dan Polakovic, Prague


Subject: Wiener-Neustadt
From: Robert Neu <roneu1@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 18:57:06 -0800 (PST)
X-Message-Number: 9

Where does one find information for Wiener-Neustadt ? Can't find much
under Austria. Does it have a Hungarian name? Was ir part of
Burgenland?
Any other suggestions.
Thanks
Robert Neu


Hungary SIG #Hungary Klein, Blau, Berkovits, and others #hungary

Audrey Ellyce Kutas <akutas@...>
 

Dear H-siggers,

I've been on this list for about 2 years now, but really needed to do some
more of my own research before any info >from this list could help me. I'm
at a point where I've collected as many names and dates as I think
possible >from my eldest living relative (in the united states that speaks
hungarian). It would be much appreciated if you could offer any help
or gear me into the right direction. Below is most of the info I have.
If I am missing some key components, let me know and I'll see if i can
find out. Thanks so much!

Audrey Kutas

1) My father's parents are Sandor Kutas (born Klein) May 19, 1925, and
Eszter Szucsanyi born April 29, 1929 in Fulpos, Hungary. Both my father
(Tamas Kutas b. nov 18, 1951) and his sister (Marta Kutas b. September
2, 1949) were born in Budapest.

2) Eszter's parents were Janos Szucsanyi (no dates, but I know he died
young in a horseback riding accident), and Ilona Petnehazy who died in
WWII. Eszter's siblings, one of which is still living in Hungary
today. I would write her a letter but I don't know Hungarian. I'm also
not sure which of the siblings are living, but for sure one of the
sisters:

a) Ilona b. 1924, married Laszlo Htey, son Laszlo, lived in Debrecen
b) Sara b. 1926, married Elek Dedjen and three songs Zoltan, Ocsi,
and Bela (all sons have their own children), lived in Hodasz
c) Maria b. abt. 1931 or 1932, never married, died in her 60s
d) Sandor b. abt. 1933, d. in mid-1980s, married Ilona, two daughters Nora
and Maria
e) Barbara b. abt. 1935, married Andras Kondas, two sons (one Atila?) and
lived in Nyirbator
f) Laszlo b. abt. 1937, married Mandyl, two daughters Maria and Eszter,
lived in Nyirgelse

3) Sandor (Klein's) parents were Andor Klein and Maria Blau. I don't have
dates for them, they also both died in WWII. Andor's parents' names are
Jakob Klein and Gizella Berkovits. He was an only child. Maria's
parents' names are David Blau and Fani. Maria's siblings' names are Pepi,
Eszti, Roza, Antal (no dates, all d. WWII) Eszti's daughter's
name is Florence Lubowski, the mother of Chaim Witz, also known as Gene
Simmons >from the rock band KISS.

Sandor's siblings are:
a) Elizabeth b. 1921 (living in NY),
b) Barbara b. 1923, married Miklos Gyarmati, d. in U.S. 1988,
c) Erno Klein b. 1927 (d. WWII),
d) Tibor b. January 1, 1929 (living in Israel),
e) Deszo b. 1931 (d.WWII),
f) Gyorgy b. 1933 (d.WWII)

Thank you so much for your time! Any help or direction would be
appreciated


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Wiener-Neustadt #hungary

Robert Neu
 

Appreciate your suggestion. I realize that Wiener-Neustadt was never
part of Hungary. Does anyone know where this book can be consulted. In
any case there were Jews there in the 19th century, and the question is
where did they worship, in order to find the records. As indicated once
before I am going to look at the Burgenland congregations, as
Wiener-Neustadt was really at the Austro-Hungarian border, which I
would believe was only an administrative border.
Robert Neu
--- Polakovic Daniel <daniel.polakovic@jewishmuseum.cz> wrote:

Bs"d

The small city Wiener-Neustadt never belonged to Hungary, it's a few
kilometer >from Vienna. On the Jewish history there see Pollak, Max:
Die
Juden in Wiener-Neustadt. Ein Beitrag zur Geschichte der Juden in
Oesterreich. Wien 1927. 119 p. This book was published in Hungarian
before.
With the best wishes,
Yours sincerely

Dan Polakovic, Prague


Subject: Wiener-Neustadt
From: Robert Neu <roneu1@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 18:57:06 -0800 (PST)
X-Message-Number: 9

Where does one find information for Wiener-Neustadt ? Can't find much
under Austria. Does it have a Hungarian name? Was ir part of
Burgenland?
Any other suggestions.
Thanks
Robert Neu


Re: h-sig digest: March 19, 2002 #hungary

Robert Neu
 

Hi,
I don't know about uniforms and ranks. Though you don't give us where
he lived prior to going in the army, logically it should be Austrian.
There was no Poland prior to 1918. No part of Poland was under
Hungarian
control. Poland was divided between Austria, Prussia, and Russia, with
only a Grand Duchy of Warsaw giving some form of National consciousness
to the Poles (it too was under Russian control.) Finally the usage of
German in the back would reinforce it being Austrian.
Robert Neu

<shel@DigitalInsight.info> wrote:


I have found a picture of my great uncle, Alex Solomon Brucker, born
in
Brassov, Hungary in 1885, dressed in either a Austrian, Hungarian or
Polish
uniform.

Alex was in the Army stationed in Stanislawowie, Poland >from 1907 to
1912.
He married a Frieda Tilman and had three daughters, two of which died
at
childbirth. One, Lottie, still lives today in Los Angeles.

Can anyone help us to identify the rank and nationality of the
uniform? Is
there a way to find the army record at that time?

You can see the picture and the back side at:

http://www.dependencylaw.com/images/Alex%20Brucker%201908.gif

and

http://www.dependencylaw.com/images/Alex%20Brucker%201908%20back.gif


Shel Brucker
Los Angeles
email: shel@ditialinsight.info <mailto:shel@ditialinsight.info>
web site: www.BruckerFamily.net <http://www.bruckerfamily.net/>

_____

Researching:
BRUCKER, FELLER, GRAUBART, GARTNER, KLEIN >from Radautz & Bukowina,
Romania/Ukraine, and in Brassov, Budapest and Bucharest, Hungary and
St.
Paul MN
BRUCKER, HAGUENAUER >from Paris, France
GREENBERG, GRUNBERG, GRIINBERG AND GERTLER >from Lodz, Poland and St.
Paul,
MN
ZILBERBERG in Poland
BERCOVITZ in St. Paul, MN, Los Angeles and Hungary?
WEINERT >from Brassov, Romania/Hungary


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: h-sig digest: March 19, 2002 #hungary

Robert Neu
 

Hi,
I don't know about uniforms and ranks. Though you don't give us where
he lived prior to going in the army, logically it should be Austrian.
There was no Poland prior to 1918. No part of Poland was under
Hungarian
control. Poland was divided between Austria, Prussia, and Russia, with
only a Grand Duchy of Warsaw giving some form of National consciousness
to the Poles (it too was under Russian control.) Finally the usage of
German in the back would reinforce it being Austrian.
Robert Neu

<shel@DigitalInsight.info> wrote:


I have found a picture of my great uncle, Alex Solomon Brucker, born
in
Brassov, Hungary in 1885, dressed in either a Austrian, Hungarian or
Polish
uniform.

Alex was in the Army stationed in Stanislawowie, Poland >from 1907 to
1912.
He married a Frieda Tilman and had three daughters, two of which died
at
childbirth. One, Lottie, still lives today in Los Angeles.

Can anyone help us to identify the rank and nationality of the
uniform? Is
there a way to find the army record at that time?

You can see the picture and the back side at:

http://www.dependencylaw.com/images/Alex%20Brucker%201908.gif

and

http://www.dependencylaw.com/images/Alex%20Brucker%201908%20back.gif


Shel Brucker
Los Angeles
email: shel@ditialinsight.info <mailto:shel@ditialinsight.info>
web site: www.BruckerFamily.net <http://www.bruckerfamily.net/>

_____

Researching:
BRUCKER, FELLER, GRAUBART, GARTNER, KLEIN >from Radautz & Bukowina,
Romania/Ukraine, and in Brassov, Budapest and Bucharest, Hungary and
St.
Paul MN
BRUCKER, HAGUENAUER >from Paris, France
GREENBERG, GRUNBERG, GRIINBERG AND GERTLER >from Lodz, Poland and St.
Paul,
MN
ZILBERBERG in Poland
BERCOVITZ in St. Paul, MN, Los Angeles and Hungary?
WEINERT >from Brassov, Romania/Hungary


Re: Chag kasher we same'ach! #hungary

teddyg1@...
 

I wish all H-SIG members and falies a Hag Kasher VeSameach.
Touvia (Teddy) Goldstein
Israel
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1756


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Chag kasher we same'ach! #hungary

teddyg1@...
 

I wish all H-SIG members and falies a Hag Kasher VeSameach.
Touvia (Teddy) Goldstein
Israel
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1756


Russian translation #general

Lili Susser <Susserl@...>
 

Hallo Genners
I have a document in Cyrillic on View Mate. I would appreciate if someone
would translate the names, places and dates for me.It should read Abram
Fishel Cukier but need the rest of the names. It is accessible by clicking
on the address below.
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/
VM1392
Thank you

Please send replies to: Lili Susser
susserl@attbi.com

MODERATOR NOTE: The direct link to this document on ViewMate is
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Russian translation #general

Lili Susser <Susserl@...>
 

Hallo Genners
I have a document in Cyrillic on View Mate. I would appreciate if someone
would translate the names, places and dates for me.It should read Abram
Fishel Cukier but need the rest of the names. It is accessible by clicking
on the address below.
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/
VM1392
Thank you

Please send replies to: Lili Susser
susserl@attbi.com

MODERATOR NOTE: The direct link to this document on ViewMate is
http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/source/vm1392.html