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Jews Free School Records - Website #unitedkingdom

Jgsgbccc@...
 

Johnathan Bourchard asked about the website for the Jews Free School records.


The online images can be found by using the search facility on the Moving
Here website at
http://www.movinghere.org.uk/

The registers at the London Metropolitan Archives go up to about 1939.
However, only certain years have been digitised and indexed by pupil name and put
on the Moving Here website:
- boys admissions 1869-1893
-girls admissions 1868-1900

Wishing all a Healthy, Happy and Peaceful New Year

Sincerely

Laurence Harris
Pinner, Middlesex


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Jews Free School Records - Website #unitedkingdom

Jgsgbccc@...
 

Johnathan Bourchard asked about the website for the Jews Free School records.


The online images can be found by using the search facility on the Moving
Here website at
http://www.movinghere.org.uk/

The registers at the London Metropolitan Archives go up to about 1939.
However, only certain years have been digitised and indexed by pupil name and put
on the Moving Here website:
- boys admissions 1869-1893
-girls admissions 1868-1900

Wishing all a Healthy, Happy and Peaceful New Year

Sincerely

Laurence Harris
Pinner, Middlesex


Re: Verifying information #hungary

Robert Neu
 

I don't follow your maths.
1. You say Rosie Klein was born in Bereg Munkacs March 10, 1862 - That
makes her 33 in 1895 when she married.

What is the source of the info? Birth records? Marriage record?

2. The 1880 Census lists her as age 28 - which doesn't match with an
1862 birth record. However she can't be in the 1880 census with that
age if she came to the States in either 1878 or 1887.

3. I don't understand the 1895 marriage date if she is listed with
children in the 1880 Census, especially without a single child match?

4. The so called age "8" on the declaration of intention sounds more
length of time in the U.S.A. (1895-1887=8.)

5. Yes, it sounds that it isn't the same family. In French we say there
is more than one donkey named "Martin".

However, they should be on the 1900, 1910, 1920, 1930 Census(es).

Robert Neu
--- milton braslow <mbraslow@stny.rr.com> wrote:

Dear HSig members:
L'shona Tova to one and all.
I am starting the New Year doubting my sanity. Information I have
about my
f/g/m ROSIE KLEIN is that she was born to Moritz and Fany (Heisler)
Klein
in Bereg Munkacs Hungary on 3/10/1862. She came to US on 6/11/1887.
She
married Marcus Merling on 11/28/1895 and had 3 children. Rachel
(1896)
Emanuel (who died as a baby) and my Dad Morris Merling (1906).
I found them in the 1880 census. They are listed as Moritz Klein,
38, wife
Fany Klein, 28, Mary dtr,15, Ignatz, son, 13, Amelia, dtr, 8,
Leopold, son,
6, Rosie, dtr, 2.
That makes her born in 1878 and about 8 yrs old when she married. I
don't
know any of her siblings names, and this could be the wrong family,
but what
are the chances
of Moritz Merling, marrying a Fany and having a child Rosie....and it
not
being the family you are researching?
I canot find the ship that is listed on her " intent" papers. SS
Varrows.
I even looked in 1878 and looked for Nov 6 because I thought an
American
might get the "Yiddish" backward....
but absolutely nothing found.
Any advice. Any help, any suggestions would be very greatly
appreciated.
The group has helped me on this before. They translated the "Berwich
Munich" to Bereg Munkacs. Such a tale!
Sincerely,
Maxine Potchinsky
Binghamton NY
Researching: HEISLER
Bereg,
Munkacs, Hungary, Romania
GALI
Bereg, Munkacs, Hungary,Romania
KLEIN
Bereg Munkacs Hungary/Romania
MERLING
Bokowina
AXELROD
Molodechno, Belarus
ZARETSKY (SARETSKY) "
"
ZALTSBERG (SALTSBERG) Kaunas,
Lithuania
POTCHINSKY (POCHINKA) Berdechiv,
Ukraine
LERNER
"
"
MALERSTEIN
Bokowina
GHYET
Berdichev, Ukraine
SNYDER
Urah? Russia/Romania
SWADE
" "
WALDENBERG
Kaunas,
Lithuania


Re: NEW BOOK "When Angels Fooled the World" #hungary

Eloedfamily@...
 

Charles Fenyvesi: When angels fooled the world: Sources

Amazon.Com carries it in original English, and "Europa Kiado" (in Hungary)
in Hungarian translation

Leslie Eloed
California


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Verifying information #hungary

Robert Neu
 

I don't follow your maths.
1. You say Rosie Klein was born in Bereg Munkacs March 10, 1862 - That
makes her 33 in 1895 when she married.

What is the source of the info? Birth records? Marriage record?

2. The 1880 Census lists her as age 28 - which doesn't match with an
1862 birth record. However she can't be in the 1880 census with that
age if she came to the States in either 1878 or 1887.

3. I don't understand the 1895 marriage date if she is listed with
children in the 1880 Census, especially without a single child match?

4. The so called age "8" on the declaration of intention sounds more
length of time in the U.S.A. (1895-1887=8.)

5. Yes, it sounds that it isn't the same family. In French we say there
is more than one donkey named "Martin".

However, they should be on the 1900, 1910, 1920, 1930 Census(es).

Robert Neu
--- milton braslow <mbraslow@stny.rr.com> wrote:

Dear HSig members:
L'shona Tova to one and all.
I am starting the New Year doubting my sanity. Information I have
about my
f/g/m ROSIE KLEIN is that she was born to Moritz and Fany (Heisler)
Klein
in Bereg Munkacs Hungary on 3/10/1862. She came to US on 6/11/1887.
She
married Marcus Merling on 11/28/1895 and had 3 children. Rachel
(1896)
Emanuel (who died as a baby) and my Dad Morris Merling (1906).
I found them in the 1880 census. They are listed as Moritz Klein,
38, wife
Fany Klein, 28, Mary dtr,15, Ignatz, son, 13, Amelia, dtr, 8,
Leopold, son,
6, Rosie, dtr, 2.
That makes her born in 1878 and about 8 yrs old when she married. I
don't
know any of her siblings names, and this could be the wrong family,
but what
are the chances
of Moritz Merling, marrying a Fany and having a child Rosie....and it
not
being the family you are researching?
I canot find the ship that is listed on her " intent" papers. SS
Varrows.
I even looked in 1878 and looked for Nov 6 because I thought an
American
might get the "Yiddish" backward....
but absolutely nothing found.
Any advice. Any help, any suggestions would be very greatly
appreciated.
The group has helped me on this before. They translated the "Berwich
Munich" to Bereg Munkacs. Such a tale!
Sincerely,
Maxine Potchinsky
Binghamton NY
Researching: HEISLER
Bereg,
Munkacs, Hungary, Romania
GALI
Bereg, Munkacs, Hungary,Romania
KLEIN
Bereg Munkacs Hungary/Romania
MERLING
Bokowina
AXELROD
Molodechno, Belarus
ZARETSKY (SARETSKY) "
"
ZALTSBERG (SALTSBERG) Kaunas,
Lithuania
POTCHINSKY (POCHINKA) Berdechiv,
Ukraine
LERNER
"
"
MALERSTEIN
Bokowina
GHYET
Berdichev, Ukraine
SNYDER
Urah? Russia/Romania
SWADE
" "
WALDENBERG
Kaunas,
Lithuania


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: NEW BOOK "When Angels Fooled the World" #hungary

Eloedfamily@...
 

Charles Fenyvesi: When angels fooled the world: Sources

Amazon.Com carries it in original English, and "Europa Kiado" (in Hungary)
in Hungarian translation

Leslie Eloed
California


Re: Sources of Hungarian / Hebrew printed works, music, spoken CDs, e... #hungary

Eloedfamily@...
 

Dear Marilyn,

In a message dated 10/1/03 11:29:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
marilyns@dakotacom.net writes:
"...after my tour of the
magnificent Dohany Synagogue last week, I did not have time to examine the
items available in their little shop.

Can anyone provide a web address or other source for Hungarian or Hungarian
/ Hebrew information?

I realize this is slightly off-topic for genealogy, so I hope the moderator
will allow this one-time request."

Below, you will find a few WEB addresses, they represent organizations or
auction / shop for a variety of Judaica materials, printed etc.

If you visit them, you will find most of them are multilingual.

http://www.judaika.hu/catalog.htm
http://www.judaica.hu/index_hu.htm
http://www.makkabi.hu/judaica/index_hu.htm (you will find him on E-Bay
auctions as well)
http://www.interdnet.hu/zsido/makkabi
http://www.zsido.hu/makkabi/antikjud.htm

Leslie Eloed
California


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Sources of Hungarian / Hebrew printed works, music, spoken CDs, e... #hungary

Eloedfamily@...
 

Dear Marilyn,

In a message dated 10/1/03 11:29:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
marilyns@dakotacom.net writes:
"...after my tour of the
magnificent Dohany Synagogue last week, I did not have time to examine the
items available in their little shop.

Can anyone provide a web address or other source for Hungarian or Hungarian
/ Hebrew information?

I realize this is slightly off-topic for genealogy, so I hope the moderator
will allow this one-time request."

Below, you will find a few WEB addresses, they represent organizations or
auction / shop for a variety of Judaica materials, printed etc.

If you visit them, you will find most of them are multilingual.

http://www.judaika.hu/catalog.htm
http://www.judaica.hu/index_hu.htm
http://www.makkabi.hu/judaica/index_hu.htm (you will find him on E-Bay
auctions as well)
http://www.interdnet.hu/zsido/makkabi
http://www.zsido.hu/makkabi/antikjud.htm

Leslie Eloed
California


Re: From Stropkov to Jerusalem #hungary

Robert Neu
 

I don't know specifics. Though my general understanding is that you did
not need any passport or visa prior to 1914. I would also direct the
question to the JRS and other Jewish societies in Israel.

That doesn't mean that you did not need to meet residency requirements.

Robert Neu
<snip>

----- Original Message -----
From: "alex p miller" <alex-miller@juno.com>
To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: 23 September 2003 2:26 PM
Subject: [h-sig] Re: >from Stropkov to Jerusalem


My GGM came to (then Turkish/Ottoman) Jerusalem in 1907 to die.
1)Would she have needed a Hungarian/Austrian passport or other
travel > document?
Shalom Avi,

Did you ever get an answer to this question? I often wondered about
this,
what where the regulations for travel prior to 1914!

The MOrmons have films on passports of Austrian subjects, but there
is no
sorting of any kind and is not by religion. So it is a r e
a l
haystack

Best Regards,

Alex Miller, Reading, PA


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: From Stropkov to Jerusalem #hungary

Robert Neu
 

I don't know specifics. Though my general understanding is that you did
not need any passport or visa prior to 1914. I would also direct the
question to the JRS and other Jewish societies in Israel.

That doesn't mean that you did not need to meet residency requirements.

Robert Neu
<snip>

----- Original Message -----
From: "alex p miller" <alex-miller@juno.com>
To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: 23 September 2003 2:26 PM
Subject: [h-sig] Re: >from Stropkov to Jerusalem


My GGM came to (then Turkish/Ottoman) Jerusalem in 1907 to die.
1)Would she have needed a Hungarian/Austrian passport or other
travel > document?
Shalom Avi,

Did you ever get an answer to this question? I often wondered about
this,
what where the regulations for travel prior to 1914!

The MOrmons have films on passports of Austrian subjects, but there
is no
sorting of any kind and is not by religion. So it is a r e
a l
haystack

Best Regards,

Alex Miller, Reading, PA


Re: Assistance Identifying Hungarian Given Name #hungary

Robert O. Singer <singerro8@...>
 

Bertalan is the hungarianised word to the German Berthold. Good
luck...Robert O. Singer, Greeley,.Colorado

----- Original Message -----
From: "bhi cc" <bhicc@yahoo.com>
To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 7:24 PM
Subject: [h-sig] Assistance Identifying Hungarian Given Name


Hi H-Siggers,

I'm trying to identify a relative's given name >from a
(handwritten) passenger ship record. It appears to
be:

Bertalari or Bertalan

The initial letter could be a "D" or an "N", rather
than a B.

Any assistance would be appreciated

Thanks,

Jonathan Horn

Moderator VK: Bertalan is the Hungarian version of the name Bartholomew.
Hungarian nicknames are Bertus and Bertuska.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Assistance Identifying Hungarian Given Name #hungary

Robert O. Singer <singerro8@...>
 

Bertalan is the hungarianised word to the German Berthold. Good
luck...Robert O. Singer, Greeley,.Colorado

----- Original Message -----
From: "bhi cc" <bhicc@yahoo.com>
To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 7:24 PM
Subject: [h-sig] Assistance Identifying Hungarian Given Name


Hi H-Siggers,

I'm trying to identify a relative's given name >from a
(handwritten) passenger ship record. It appears to
be:

Bertalari or Bertalan

The initial letter could be a "D" or an "N", rather
than a B.

Any assistance would be appreciated

Thanks,

Jonathan Horn

Moderator VK: Bertalan is the Hungarian version of the name Bartholomew.
Hungarian nicknames are Bertus and Bertuska.


FOLDES from Kolosvar (used to be Budapest) #hungary

Gabriela Svatos
 

Today the newly released microfilms for Nitra arrived >from Salt Lake City .
I have finally figured out (after 23 years) why the birth record of my
maternal ggm Rosa FOLDES could not be located in Budapest. According to the
Nitra birth records of her children, she was born in Kolosvar, and not in
Bpest where she later grew up.

This is Cluj in Romania? Are there other possibilities? How does one
research in Romania? Could someone please suggest possible sources of data
from this area. I am a total newbie for this region.
Thanks,
Gabi

Gabriela Svatos
Richmond Hill, Ontario
E-mail: gsvatos@hotmail.com
Business E-mail: bookstore@agawa.com
Business URL: www.abe.com/home/GSVATOS


Hungary SIG #Hungary FOLDES from Kolosvar (used to be Budapest) #hungary

Gabriela Svatos
 

Today the newly released microfilms for Nitra arrived >from Salt Lake City .
I have finally figured out (after 23 years) why the birth record of my
maternal ggm Rosa FOLDES could not be located in Budapest. According to the
Nitra birth records of her children, she was born in Kolosvar, and not in
Bpest where she later grew up.

This is Cluj in Romania? Are there other possibilities? How does one
research in Romania? Could someone please suggest possible sources of data
from this area. I am a total newbie for this region.
Thanks,
Gabi

Gabriela Svatos
Richmond Hill, Ontario
E-mail: gsvatos@hotmail.com
Business E-mail: bookstore@agawa.com
Business URL: www.abe.com/home/GSVATOS


Need help finding info about a burial on Mount of Olives - Jerusalem #general

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

One of the project that IGS is doing for the 24th conference in Jerusalem
is the index for the graves on the Mount of Olives through 1906. See this
page for a description.
http://www.isragen.org.il/ROS/mehokek.html

Rose Feldman
Shalom and see you in Jerusalem!
The 24th International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
July 4-9, 2004
www.jewishgen.org/jerusalem2004


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Need help finding info about a burial on Mount of Olives - Jerusalem #general

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

One of the project that IGS is doing for the 24th conference in Jerusalem
is the index for the graves on the Mount of Olives through 1906. See this
page for a description.
http://www.isragen.org.il/ROS/mehokek.html

Rose Feldman
Shalom and see you in Jerusalem!
The 24th International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
July 4-9, 2004
www.jewishgen.org/jerusalem2004


SITE CITE- Jerusalem 2004 SIG list IAJGS Conference News #germany

GerSig@...
 

MODERATOR NOTE: GerSig will N O T post notices about the 2004
conference except those specific to German Jewish Research and
GerSig meetings and events during the Jerusalem conference.
Other SIG discussion groups will probably not either.
To keep informed about the 2004 Conference in Jerusalem,
interested GerSig members should follow the instructions
below and subscribe to the Conference mailing list. Questions
about the conference can be posted to the list by subscribers.

=================================================================
This message is being posted on behalf of the Israel Genealogical
Society. If you have any questions or comments, please follow the
instructions below to subscribe to jerusalem2004, a mailing list
set up specifically for the conference.
=================================================================

The Israel Genealogical Society is delighted to invite you to the
IAJGS 24th International Conference on Jewish Genealogy, which
will be held on July 4-9, 2004, in Jerusalem.

Jerusalem: home to unique archival and family history resources
including Yad VaShem, the Jewish National and University Library,
the Central Zionist Archives, the 3,000 year old Cemetery on
Mount of Olives, and more...

The hotel: The conveniently located Jerusalem Marriot Renaissance
offers a complete range of facilities and services--and special
rates for conference participants.

The program: a wide selection of lectures on family genealogy,
community studies, genealogy and DNA, Sephardic studies,
Holocaust research, genealogy for beginners and much more...

For more details, questions and discussion join our mailing list,
JERUSALEM 2004 ================================> Simply go to:

http://www.jewishgen.org/listserv/sigs_add.htm

1. Fill in your name and email

2. Go down the page and choose JERUSALEM 2004* - A mailing list
devoted to questions and issues about the 24th IAJGS International
Conference on Jewish Genealogy to be held in Jerusalem, July 2004
[It is listed under "JewishGen Hosted Projects" along with JRI Poland]

3. Choose your subscription mode (individual mail, digest, etc.)
[The default is DIGEST - one email per day containing all the day's
messages >from this list.]

4. Click on the box at the bottom of the page that says:
"Submit my Request".

[5. You will receive a listserver generated email asking you to CONFIRM
your new subscription request. To activate your new subscription
to any JewishGen list you must reply to this "PLEASE CONFIRM" email.
if you do not do so within a week your subscription request is
voided. An average of 3 GerSig subscription requests each month
fail because the CONFIRM email is not responded to properly. MOD1]

See you in Jerusalem in July 2004!
Jean-Pierre Stroweis, Prof. Daniel Wagner, Eitan Shilo
24th IAJGS Conference Co-Chairs

http://www.jewishgen.org/listserv/sigs_add.htm


IAJGS 24th International Conference on Jewish Genealogy #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

The Israel Genealogical Society is delighted to invite you to the
IAJGS 24th International Conference on Jewish Genealogy, which will be
held on July 4-9, 2004, in Jerusalem.
Jerusalem: home to unique archival and family history resources
including Yad VaShem, the Jewish National and University Library, the
Central Zionist Archives, the 3,000 year old Cemetery on Mount of
Olives, and more...
The hotel: The conveniently located Jerusalem Marriot Renaissance
offers a complete range of facilities and services--and special rates
for conference participants.
The program: a wide selection of lectures on family genealogy,
community studies, genealogy and DNA, Sephardic studies, Holocaust
research, genealogy for beginners and much more...
For more details, questions and discussion join our mailing list,
JERUSALEM 2004. Simply go to
http://www.jewishgen.org/listserv/sigs_add.htm , fill in your name and
email, go down the page and choose JERUSALEM 2004* - A mailing list
devoted to questions and issues about the 24th IAJGS International
Conference on Jewish Genealogy to be held in Jerusalem, July 2004
Choose your subscription mode (individual mail, digest, etc.), and
submit.

See you in Jerusalem in July 2004!
Jean-Pierre Stroweis, Prof. Daniel Wagner, Eitan Shilo
24th IAJGS Conference Co-Chairs


German SIG #Germany SITE CITE- Jerusalem 2004 SIG list IAJGS Conference News #germany

GerSig@...
 

MODERATOR NOTE: GerSig will N O T post notices about the 2004
conference except those specific to German Jewish Research and
GerSig meetings and events during the Jerusalem conference.
Other SIG discussion groups will probably not either.
To keep informed about the 2004 Conference in Jerusalem,
interested GerSig members should follow the instructions
below and subscribe to the Conference mailing list. Questions
about the conference can be posted to the list by subscribers.

=================================================================
This message is being posted on behalf of the Israel Genealogical
Society. If you have any questions or comments, please follow the
instructions below to subscribe to jerusalem2004, a mailing list
set up specifically for the conference.
=================================================================

The Israel Genealogical Society is delighted to invite you to the
IAJGS 24th International Conference on Jewish Genealogy, which
will be held on July 4-9, 2004, in Jerusalem.

Jerusalem: home to unique archival and family history resources
including Yad VaShem, the Jewish National and University Library,
the Central Zionist Archives, the 3,000 year old Cemetery on
Mount of Olives, and more...

The hotel: The conveniently located Jerusalem Marriot Renaissance
offers a complete range of facilities and services--and special
rates for conference participants.

The program: a wide selection of lectures on family genealogy,
community studies, genealogy and DNA, Sephardic studies,
Holocaust research, genealogy for beginners and much more...

For more details, questions and discussion join our mailing list,
JERUSALEM 2004 ================================> Simply go to:

http://www.jewishgen.org/listserv/sigs_add.htm

1. Fill in your name and email

2. Go down the page and choose JERUSALEM 2004* - A mailing list
devoted to questions and issues about the 24th IAJGS International
Conference on Jewish Genealogy to be held in Jerusalem, July 2004
[It is listed under "JewishGen Hosted Projects" along with JRI Poland]

3. Choose your subscription mode (individual mail, digest, etc.)
[The default is DIGEST - one email per day containing all the day's
messages >from this list.]

4. Click on the box at the bottom of the page that says:
"Submit my Request".

[5. You will receive a listserver generated email asking you to CONFIRM
your new subscription request. To activate your new subscription
to any JewishGen list you must reply to this "PLEASE CONFIRM" email.
if you do not do so within a week your subscription request is
voided. An average of 3 GerSig subscription requests each month
fail because the CONFIRM email is not responded to properly. MOD1]

See you in Jerusalem in July 2004!
Jean-Pierre Stroweis, Prof. Daniel Wagner, Eitan Shilo
24th IAJGS Conference Co-Chairs

http://www.jewishgen.org/listserv/sigs_add.htm


Hungary SIG #Hungary IAJGS 24th International Conference on Jewish Genealogy #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

The Israel Genealogical Society is delighted to invite you to the
IAJGS 24th International Conference on Jewish Genealogy, which will be
held on July 4-9, 2004, in Jerusalem.
Jerusalem: home to unique archival and family history resources
including Yad VaShem, the Jewish National and University Library, the
Central Zionist Archives, the 3,000 year old Cemetery on Mount of
Olives, and more...
The hotel: The conveniently located Jerusalem Marriot Renaissance
offers a complete range of facilities and services--and special rates
for conference participants.
The program: a wide selection of lectures on family genealogy,
community studies, genealogy and DNA, Sephardic studies, Holocaust
research, genealogy for beginners and much more...
For more details, questions and discussion join our mailing list,
JERUSALEM 2004. Simply go to
http://www.jewishgen.org/listserv/sigs_add.htm , fill in your name and
email, go down the page and choose JERUSALEM 2004* - A mailing list
devoted to questions and issues about the 24th IAJGS International
Conference on Jewish Genealogy to be held in Jerusalem, July 2004
Choose your subscription mode (individual mail, digest, etc.), and
submit.

See you in Jerusalem in July 2004!
Jean-Pierre Stroweis, Prof. Daniel Wagner, Eitan Shilo
24th IAJGS Conference Co-Chairs