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Rabbi Israel BANHEIT or BONHEIT or any variation from Krakow second half of the 19th. century #general

אלכס קרנר <pudpud@...>
 

Hello fellow researchers,
I am looking for any information or hints about where i could find any
information about Rabbi Israel BANHEIT or any variation of this surname,
from Krakow, Poland. >from the second half of the 19th. century.
Thank you in advance for any help,
Alex Kerner
Israel
pudpud@zahav.net.il
searching for: KERNER, WORTSMAN, BIRNBAUM, BIRNSTEIN, RITTERMAN, HIRSCHBERG
from Krakow, Poland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rabbi Israel BANHEIT or BONHEIT or any variation from Krakow second half of the 19th. century #general

אלכס קרנר <pudpud@...>
 

Hello fellow researchers,
I am looking for any information or hints about where i could find any
information about Rabbi Israel BANHEIT or any variation of this surname,
from Krakow, Poland. >from the second half of the 19th. century.
Thank you in advance for any help,
Alex Kerner
Israel
pudpud@zahav.net.il
searching for: KERNER, WORTSMAN, BIRNBAUM, BIRNSTEIN, RITTERMAN, HIRSCHBERG
from Krakow, Poland


H-SIG Events at Jerusalem conference #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

The programming committee of the 24th IAJGS International Jewish
Genealogy Conference scheduled to be held in Jerusalem 4-9 July is
setting up the Conference schedule and needs to know what activities,
if any, to schedule for H-SIG.

In response to my previous inquiry, only about 10 people indicated that
they were going to attend the conference. This is not a large enough
group to warrant holding a SIG business meeting. As previously
mentioned, I will not be going to the conference and, to my knowledge,
none of the other SIG members involved in our administrative affairs
will be attending either. We'll provide you with an electronic summary
of SIG activities during the past year.

Robert Neu, our 1848 Census project coordinator, indicated that he does
plan to attend the conference. If any other project coordinators
will be there as well, you might want to have a small meeting to
present an update on H-SIG projects. Please let me know ASAP of
interest in presenting or attending such a session so I can ask the
conference organizers to put this on the schedule. I cannot guarantee
that it won't conflict with other sessions that may be of interest to
SIG members.

I do not know if there is a minimum number needed to schedule a SIG
luncheon. I can ask the conference organizers to schedule this event
@$25 per person but I won't be able to plan a luncheon program. Given
the small number of members who will be going to the conference I
suggest that you plan an informal luncheon at everyone's convenience
instead of a scheduled luncheon with or without a speaker. An
alternative would be to ask the conference organizers to schedule an
informal get-together with coffee, tea and cake @ $10/person, but this
event might also conflict with other sessions. There will be no SIG
fair at this Conference.

Given the low anticipated turnout >from H-SIG, my recommendation is
that we do not plan any formal activities. If you are planning to
attend the conference and would like to make plans to connect with
other SIG members, I can put together a list of all those who will be
there and send it out to H-SIG subscribers.

This is our final opportunity to get any formal SIG events on the
conference schedule. In order for this to happen, I must let the
organizers know how many people would attend. If I do not receive
expressions of interest in a specific event >from more than 10 people by
January 24, I will tell the conference organizers to leave us off the
schedule this year.

I regret that we won't have an opportunity to get together this summer
and look forward to seeing many of you at the next IAJGS conference in
Las Vegas in 2005. It's quite close to Salt Lake City for those who
might want to take the time for a side-trip.

Vivian Kahn, H-SIG Coordinator


Looking for ABOSCH Family #general

Julie Jones <juliejosef@...>
 

I am new at this research and also, do not know German so please bear with
me.

At the time of the occupation, my family was living in Vienna. I am a Pick
(of Pick/Frankel descent) and through marriage, also related to Podrul and
Abosch. I am looking for Max Abosch (who may be living in Alberta), or his
descendants. Max was my father's cousin. I believe that Max's father may
have been Josef Abosch who in 1940 was living in New York, probably in the
Bronx. Max escaped to England where my father was also a refugee.

I have a letter >from Dr. Conrad Hoffman >from the Board of National Missions
of the Presbyterian Church, 156 Fifth Avenue, New York sent to my father
Josef Pick in England dated August 7, 1940. Dr. Hoffman refers to my
father's uncle as "Abush" which may have been a typo error. >from other
correspondences, I believe that Dr. Hoffman knew my family in Vienna. In
this letter, Dr. Hoffman says that Uncle "Abush" had reported that his son
had been interred and was believed to have been sent to Canada.

Yesterday I received news that Max Abosch lives in Calgary and also that his
daughter Dorrie was a resident doctor in Toronto in the 1990's. I cannot
find a telephone listing for either. Can anyone help me please? Dorrie is
probably listed under a married name by now. If these people are part of my
family, I would like to contact them. I have photographs and other documents
I would like to share with them.

I am in contact with 2 PODRUL and PADRUL families in the U.S.A. (formerly
from Russia) who found each other and are second cousins. Any relationship
with my family is probably distant, but this is a very unusual name. I would
appreciate hearing >from any other PODRUL/PADRUL.

I am also researching for descendants of: EISNER (my g-grandmother's maiden
name - born in Wamberg/Vamberk CZ ; details of any siblings of my
g-grandfather JOSEF PICK born in Mestec Kralove, Czech Republic who died
there in 1912; any knowledge of siblings of my grandfather Otto PICK (born
in Mestec Kralove, CZ) and moved to Vienna in about 1912; ABOSCH, PODRUL,
Kurt WEISZ (who may also have escaped to England); and Beile FRANKEL geb.
BAUERNFREUND geb. 30.3.1899 in Sedziszow, Haushalt.

Julie JONES, Burlington, Ontario


Hungary SIG #Hungary H-SIG Events at Jerusalem conference #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

The programming committee of the 24th IAJGS International Jewish
Genealogy Conference scheduled to be held in Jerusalem 4-9 July is
setting up the Conference schedule and needs to know what activities,
if any, to schedule for H-SIG.

In response to my previous inquiry, only about 10 people indicated that
they were going to attend the conference. This is not a large enough
group to warrant holding a SIG business meeting. As previously
mentioned, I will not be going to the conference and, to my knowledge,
none of the other SIG members involved in our administrative affairs
will be attending either. We'll provide you with an electronic summary
of SIG activities during the past year.

Robert Neu, our 1848 Census project coordinator, indicated that he does
plan to attend the conference. If any other project coordinators
will be there as well, you might want to have a small meeting to
present an update on H-SIG projects. Please let me know ASAP of
interest in presenting or attending such a session so I can ask the
conference organizers to put this on the schedule. I cannot guarantee
that it won't conflict with other sessions that may be of interest to
SIG members.

I do not know if there is a minimum number needed to schedule a SIG
luncheon. I can ask the conference organizers to schedule this event
@$25 per person but I won't be able to plan a luncheon program. Given
the small number of members who will be going to the conference I
suggest that you plan an informal luncheon at everyone's convenience
instead of a scheduled luncheon with or without a speaker. An
alternative would be to ask the conference organizers to schedule an
informal get-together with coffee, tea and cake @ $10/person, but this
event might also conflict with other sessions. There will be no SIG
fair at this Conference.

Given the low anticipated turnout >from H-SIG, my recommendation is
that we do not plan any formal activities. If you are planning to
attend the conference and would like to make plans to connect with
other SIG members, I can put together a list of all those who will be
there and send it out to H-SIG subscribers.

This is our final opportunity to get any formal SIG events on the
conference schedule. In order for this to happen, I must let the
organizers know how many people would attend. If I do not receive
expressions of interest in a specific event >from more than 10 people by
January 24, I will tell the conference organizers to leave us off the
schedule this year.

I regret that we won't have an opportunity to get together this summer
and look forward to seeing many of you at the next IAJGS conference in
Las Vegas in 2005. It's quite close to Salt Lake City for those who
might want to take the time for a side-trip.

Vivian Kahn, H-SIG Coordinator


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for ABOSCH Family #general

Julie Jones <juliejosef@...>
 

I am new at this research and also, do not know German so please bear with
me.

At the time of the occupation, my family was living in Vienna. I am a Pick
(of Pick/Frankel descent) and through marriage, also related to Podrul and
Abosch. I am looking for Max Abosch (who may be living in Alberta), or his
descendants. Max was my father's cousin. I believe that Max's father may
have been Josef Abosch who in 1940 was living in New York, probably in the
Bronx. Max escaped to England where my father was also a refugee.

I have a letter >from Dr. Conrad Hoffman >from the Board of National Missions
of the Presbyterian Church, 156 Fifth Avenue, New York sent to my father
Josef Pick in England dated August 7, 1940. Dr. Hoffman refers to my
father's uncle as "Abush" which may have been a typo error. >from other
correspondences, I believe that Dr. Hoffman knew my family in Vienna. In
this letter, Dr. Hoffman says that Uncle "Abush" had reported that his son
had been interred and was believed to have been sent to Canada.

Yesterday I received news that Max Abosch lives in Calgary and also that his
daughter Dorrie was a resident doctor in Toronto in the 1990's. I cannot
find a telephone listing for either. Can anyone help me please? Dorrie is
probably listed under a married name by now. If these people are part of my
family, I would like to contact them. I have photographs and other documents
I would like to share with them.

I am in contact with 2 PODRUL and PADRUL families in the U.S.A. (formerly
from Russia) who found each other and are second cousins. Any relationship
with my family is probably distant, but this is a very unusual name. I would
appreciate hearing >from any other PODRUL/PADRUL.

I am also researching for descendants of: EISNER (my g-grandmother's maiden
name - born in Wamberg/Vamberk CZ ; details of any siblings of my
g-grandfather JOSEF PICK born in Mestec Kralove, Czech Republic who died
there in 1912; any knowledge of siblings of my grandfather Otto PICK (born
in Mestec Kralove, CZ) and moved to Vienna in about 1912; ABOSCH, PODRUL,
Kurt WEISZ (who may also have escaped to England); and Beile FRANKEL geb.
BAUERNFREUND geb. 30.3.1899 in Sedziszow, Haushalt.

Julie JONES, Burlington, Ontario


Given name #hungary

Alexander Woodle <awoodle@...>
 

I have found an ancestor whose given name was Sandor. However when I found
him arriving at Ellis Island it had changed to Gandor.

My question is whether or not this latter name is not a mis-transcription?
Can someone tell me what the English equivalent name is for Sandor or
whether this is a nickname?

Thank you,

Alex Woodle
Groton, MA

WUDL in Bohemia & Banat
FANTES in Bohemia or anywhere

Moderator VK: Sandor is the Hungarian equivalent of Alexander. The nickname is usually Sanyi. Gandor is obviously a mistake in transcription by someone unfamiliar with this typically Hungarian name.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Given name #hungary

Alexander Woodle <awoodle@...>
 

I have found an ancestor whose given name was Sandor. However when I found
him arriving at Ellis Island it had changed to Gandor.

My question is whether or not this latter name is not a mis-transcription?
Can someone tell me what the English equivalent name is for Sandor or
whether this is a nickname?

Thank you,

Alex Woodle
Groton, MA

WUDL in Bohemia & Banat
FANTES in Bohemia or anywhere

Moderator VK: Sandor is the Hungarian equivalent of Alexander. The nickname is usually Sanyi. Gandor is obviously a mistake in transcription by someone unfamiliar with this typically Hungarian name.


Recruiting Age to Military Service #hungary

Katz, Itzik <Itzik.Katz@...>
 

Hello H-Siggers,

I apologize for my ignorance but I am wondering if anyone can tell me,
please, at what age were Jewish men recruited to mandatory Military service
at the time between the two world wars and for how long were they drafted
to?

My father was recruited to the Hungarian mandatory Military service. He was
later in forced labor camps in Ukraine and belarus. I am wondering if had
finished his obligatory military service or if he was sent to the forced
labor camps whuile he still was in military service.

Thank you,
Isaac Katz
Isreael


Hungary SIG #Hungary Recruiting Age to Military Service #hungary

Katz, Itzik <Itzik.Katz@...>
 

Hello H-Siggers,

I apologize for my ignorance but I am wondering if anyone can tell me,
please, at what age were Jewish men recruited to mandatory Military service
at the time between the two world wars and for how long were they drafted
to?

My father was recruited to the Hungarian mandatory Military service. He was
later in forced labor camps in Ukraine and belarus. I am wondering if had
finished his obligatory military service or if he was sent to the forced
labor camps whuile he still was in military service.

Thank you,
Isaac Katz
Isreael


Holocaust era insurance claims #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dear all,

Not related to the subjects of our group but certainly of interest to
many, please visit page:
http://www.sbd-law.com/
It belongs to a very large Californian advocacy office which has
successfully handled many Holocaust era claims which the European
insurance companies refused to pay or in which they are dragging
their feet.

I have no connection with or interest in this company. My only aim is
to help those who have faced such situations.

Friendly regards
Tom

Moderator VK: This is a one-time only mention of a commercial venture of possible interest to H-SIG subscribers.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Holocaust era insurance claims #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dear all,

Not related to the subjects of our group but certainly of interest to
many, please visit page:
http://www.sbd-law.com/
It belongs to a very large Californian advocacy office which has
successfully handled many Holocaust era claims which the European
insurance companies refused to pay or in which they are dragging
their feet.

I have no connection with or interest in this company. My only aim is
to help those who have faced such situations.

Friendly regards
Tom

Moderator VK: This is a one-time only mention of a commercial venture of possible interest to H-SIG subscribers.


Update 1848 Hungarian Jewish Census on the AHD #hungary

Robert Neu
 

HI all,

The AHD has just been updated with the transcriptions of the September
to December 2003 period.

10,016 records were added and there are now over 35,000 entries for
this data base alone.

The introduction at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Hungary/Census1848.htm

has also been updated, and shows which Megye and Towns are now on line.

Our thanks go to the 20 or so transcribers who are contributing to the
progress of this project.

We are probably on either of 50% of the project.

To see the project completed within an other year's time we will need
some more transcribers.

Some transcribers have contributed or are contributing 3 to 4,000
records, - an entire Megye (County) - and it would be unfair to have
them do more.

Enjoy and please consider coming on board

Robert Neu
1848 Hungarian Jewish Census Coordinator

Moderator VK: This is a remarkable accomplishment that wouldn't have been possible without Robert's guidance and the efforts of other volunteers. Thanks to all who have made this possible! If you are not able to help with transcription, consider a contribution to JewishGen to help pay for uploading this data to the AHD and maintaining it for researchers to use. Like most non-profit organizations, JewishGen and our parent, the Museum of Jewish Heritage, have seen a drop in donations. There are considerable costs involved in maintaining a website as rich in resources as JewishGen. Our ability to continue providing and maintaining resources like the AHD is dependent on donations >from those who understand the importance of making this information available. For information about contributing to JewishGen go to the JewishGen-erosity page: http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/


Hungary SIG #Hungary Update 1848 Hungarian Jewish Census on the AHD #hungary

Robert Neu
 

HI all,

The AHD has just been updated with the transcriptions of the September
to December 2003 period.

10,016 records were added and there are now over 35,000 entries for
this data base alone.

The introduction at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Hungary/Census1848.htm

has also been updated, and shows which Megye and Towns are now on line.

Our thanks go to the 20 or so transcribers who are contributing to the
progress of this project.

We are probably on either of 50% of the project.

To see the project completed within an other year's time we will need
some more transcribers.

Some transcribers have contributed or are contributing 3 to 4,000
records, - an entire Megye (County) - and it would be unfair to have
them do more.

Enjoy and please consider coming on board

Robert Neu
1848 Hungarian Jewish Census Coordinator

Moderator VK: This is a remarkable accomplishment that wouldn't have been possible without Robert's guidance and the efforts of other volunteers. Thanks to all who have made this possible! If you are not able to help with transcription, consider a contribution to JewishGen to help pay for uploading this data to the AHD and maintaining it for researchers to use. Like most non-profit organizations, JewishGen and our parent, the Museum of Jewish Heritage, have seen a drop in donations. There are considerable costs involved in maintaining a website as rich in resources as JewishGen. Our ability to continue providing and maintaining resources like the AHD is dependent on donations >from those who understand the importance of making this information available. For information about contributing to JewishGen go to the JewishGen-erosity page: http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/


Re: Gubernia #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 01:19:19 UTC, p.mett@open.ac.uk (Perets Mett) opined:

Stan Goodman wrote:

The term "gubernia" is Russian. At any time when a region is
*legitimately* described as a gubernia, it must have been
governed by pre-revolution Russia. The parallel Polish term
is "wojewodztwo", and this is the term used wherever Poland
was sovereign after WWI.

The word gubernya was used in Yiddish, and continued to be used after
WWI.

Jews in Poland in the inter-war years used the word gubernya to mean
province (wojewodztwo)
And so we continue to use it today, right here on this forum. But the
correct nomenclature varied with time and circumstances, as I described in
my earlier note, and my object was to clarify that. This was pertinent in
light of the earlier query to which I was responding.

Actually, the former Lomza Gubernia no longer exists under any name at all,
having been absorbed into a larger region, and the resulting wojewodztwo is
called "Podlasie".

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better):
http://www.hashkedim.com
Please replace the capital letters with jgen in order to send me email.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Gubernia #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 01:19:19 UTC, p.mett@open.ac.uk (Perets Mett) opined:

Stan Goodman wrote:

The term "gubernia" is Russian. At any time when a region is
*legitimately* described as a gubernia, it must have been
governed by pre-revolution Russia. The parallel Polish term
is "wojewodztwo", and this is the term used wherever Poland
was sovereign after WWI.

The word gubernya was used in Yiddish, and continued to be used after
WWI.

Jews in Poland in the inter-war years used the word gubernya to mean
province (wojewodztwo)
And so we continue to use it today, right here on this forum. But the
correct nomenclature varied with time and circumstances, as I described in
my earlier note, and my object was to clarify that. This was pertinent in
light of the earlier query to which I was responding.

Actually, the former Lomza Gubernia no longer exists under any name at all,
having been absorbed into a larger region, and the resulting wojewodztwo is
called "Podlasie".

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better):
http://www.hashkedim.com
Please replace the capital letters with jgen in order to send me email.


Response to my query #galicia

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
 

The tremendous response to my query re Lemburg and the research of my maternal
branch of my family tree was beyond my expectations!

I hope I didn't miss answering the individuals who wrote me, but - just in case
I did - please accept my thanks for the information you all shared with me.

Sylvia

SYLVIA FURSHMAN NUSINOV
PRESIDENT EMERITA
JGSPBCI


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Response to my query #galicia

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
 

The tremendous response to my query re Lemburg and the research of my maternal
branch of my family tree was beyond my expectations!

I hope I didn't miss answering the individuals who wrote me, but - just in case
I did - please accept my thanks for the information you all shared with me.

Sylvia

SYLVIA FURSHMAN NUSINOV
PRESIDENT EMERITA
JGSPBCI


Re: Forced Labor Units #hungary

Gábor Hirsch <hirsch@...>
 

I believe "communist disciplinary unit" mean a disciplinary unit for
communist and others not trustfully persons for military service or as
fighting unit, it might be a"kommunista bunteto szazad or a zsido
bunteto szazad, a unit to discipline or punish communists, Jews etc. It
is always a problem to make a translation not word by word.
A nice story is >from 56 after the Hungarian uprising. The Hungarian was
helped by a Swiss aid to find a room. When the future landlady asked
"woher er gekommen ist" (where did he come from) answered our men "nicht
Kommunist Faschist" saying that he is not a communist but fascist.
Bunteto szazad, according my dictionary is company of refractory
soldiers, and buntetotabor = detention camp
Best regards
Gabor Hirsch


Eloedfamily@aol.com schrieb:

In a message dated 1/11/04 6:28:39 PM Pacific Standard Time,
ritamandl@aol.com writes:
Dear H-Sigers:

Does anyone know anything about the 461/1 KLGS
communist disciplinary unit in Koszeg. In some
writings of my father he referred to this unit where
he was sent to >from a detention camp in Budapest in
December of 1942.

Rita Mandl
Bethel, CT

Moderator VK: Koszeg is very close to the Austrian border about 24 km north
of Szombathely.

"communist disciplinary unit " ???!!! in the Hungary of 1942? Not likely to
be a communist run unit, since communism was outside of the law in Hungary in
1942. Or was it a unit where they held sympathizers or members of communist
organizations or groups as enemies of the state of Hungary? Your question is
not clear, and maybe your date is wrong?

Leslie Eloed
California, USA


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Forced Labor Units #hungary

Gábor Hirsch <hirsch@...>
 

I believe "communist disciplinary unit" mean a disciplinary unit for
communist and others not trustfully persons for military service or as
fighting unit, it might be a"kommunista bunteto szazad or a zsido
bunteto szazad, a unit to discipline or punish communists, Jews etc. It
is always a problem to make a translation not word by word.
A nice story is >from 56 after the Hungarian uprising. The Hungarian was
helped by a Swiss aid to find a room. When the future landlady asked
"woher er gekommen ist" (where did he come from) answered our men "nicht
Kommunist Faschist" saying that he is not a communist but fascist.
Bunteto szazad, according my dictionary is company of refractory
soldiers, and buntetotabor = detention camp
Best regards
Gabor Hirsch


Eloedfamily@aol.com schrieb:

In a message dated 1/11/04 6:28:39 PM Pacific Standard Time,
ritamandl@aol.com writes:
Dear H-Sigers:

Does anyone know anything about the 461/1 KLGS
communist disciplinary unit in Koszeg. In some
writings of my father he referred to this unit where
he was sent to >from a detention camp in Budapest in
December of 1942.

Rita Mandl
Bethel, CT

Moderator VK: Koszeg is very close to the Austrian border about 24 km north
of Szombathely.

"communist disciplinary unit " ???!!! in the Hungary of 1942? Not likely to
be a communist run unit, since communism was outside of the law in Hungary in
1942. Or was it a unit where they held sympathizers or members of communist
organizations or groups as enemies of the state of Hungary? Your question is
not clear, and maybe your date is wrong?

Leslie Eloed
California, USA