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Re: Troebitz #germany

Pete Vanlaw <pvan@...>
 

Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 6:22 PM
To: 'Robert Wolf' Cc: Micheal Schwarcz (E-mail)
Subject: RE: Troebitz

Robert,
Thanks for your very informative reply. And thanks to Henny and Micha as
well for your help.

What you and the Center for Research of Dutch Jewry have found seems far
more definitive, while somewhat contradictory to the information relayed to
my parents regarding my uncle Paul's death. I have a letter, written on
November 18, 1945, >from a Dr. A. Houwink, Rubensstraat 79, Amsterdam 2, who
was a friend of Paul and Kaethe REFISCH, as well as Kaethe's parents,
Maximillian FRANKEN, and Margerethe FRANKEN-WOLFF (Houwink's wife was also
Max FRANKEN's niece). The letter indicates that both families died in
Bergen-Belsen. While the information was third hand, based on news >from "a
friend of a friend" who claims to have visited Kaethe REHFISCH in a hospital
at Bergen-Belsen, it stated that while Kaethe was still alive, she was "in a
very bad state of health". However Paul and her parents were already dead
from the typhoid fever epidemic, and that Kaethe probably died too shortly
after the visit, which I must assume was after the Germans vacated the
facility. That would indicate that they never left Bergen-Belsen.
However, I must also assume that your information is based on death and
burial records, as opposed to the third hand information that I have. It
also puts Paul's death in a more historic context, which is quite ironic
since I just visited the concentration camp at Theresienstadt less than
three weeks ago. Thanks again for your help.

Pete Vanlaw, Studio City, CA

P.S.: Yes, I'd be very interested in obtaining a copy of the "Lost
Transport" monograph. Just let me know if there's any cost involved.

-----Original Message-----
Robert Wolf
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 8:14 AM
To: pvan@...
Subject: Troebitz
Your uncle, Paul REHFISCH, and his wife, Kaethe REHFISCH-FRANKEN are buried
in the mass grave at the Nordfeld Barracks Infirmary in the town of
Troebitz. They died of Typhus, Paul on May 5th and Kaethe on May 12, 1945.

They were among the several thousand former inmates of Bergen-Belsen who
were loaded on a train bound for Theresienstadt on 9 April 1945. The train
has become known as "The Lost Transport". Because of the almost total
destruction of the German rail system the train never reached Theresienstadt
(where gas chambers had been constructed after the death camps in Poland had
been overrun), but wandered through what was left of Germany for two weeks
until finally liberated by the Red Army on April 22/23.

About fifteen years ago, when Troebitz was still in the DDR, a local woman
wrote a monograph about the Lost Transport and the subsequent events in Troebitz.

I have translated the monograph, which contains extensive lists of the dead,
and would be happy to send you a copy on CD if you wish. Robert Wolf


German SIG #Germany RE: Troebitz #germany

Pete Vanlaw <pvan@...>
 

Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 6:22 PM
To: 'Robert Wolf' Cc: Micheal Schwarcz (E-mail)
Subject: RE: Troebitz

Robert,
Thanks for your very informative reply. And thanks to Henny and Micha as
well for your help.

What you and the Center for Research of Dutch Jewry have found seems far
more definitive, while somewhat contradictory to the information relayed to
my parents regarding my uncle Paul's death. I have a letter, written on
November 18, 1945, >from a Dr. A. Houwink, Rubensstraat 79, Amsterdam 2, who
was a friend of Paul and Kaethe REFISCH, as well as Kaethe's parents,
Maximillian FRANKEN, and Margerethe FRANKEN-WOLFF (Houwink's wife was also
Max FRANKEN's niece). The letter indicates that both families died in
Bergen-Belsen. While the information was third hand, based on news >from "a
friend of a friend" who claims to have visited Kaethe REHFISCH in a hospital
at Bergen-Belsen, it stated that while Kaethe was still alive, she was "in a
very bad state of health". However Paul and her parents were already dead
from the typhoid fever epidemic, and that Kaethe probably died too shortly
after the visit, which I must assume was after the Germans vacated the
facility. That would indicate that they never left Bergen-Belsen.
However, I must also assume that your information is based on death and
burial records, as opposed to the third hand information that I have. It
also puts Paul's death in a more historic context, which is quite ironic
since I just visited the concentration camp at Theresienstadt less than
three weeks ago. Thanks again for your help.

Pete Vanlaw, Studio City, CA

P.S.: Yes, I'd be very interested in obtaining a copy of the "Lost
Transport" monograph. Just let me know if there's any cost involved.

-----Original Message-----
Robert Wolf
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 8:14 AM
To: pvan@...
Subject: Troebitz
Your uncle, Paul REHFISCH, and his wife, Kaethe REHFISCH-FRANKEN are buried
in the mass grave at the Nordfeld Barracks Infirmary in the town of
Troebitz. They died of Typhus, Paul on May 5th and Kaethe on May 12, 1945.

They were among the several thousand former inmates of Bergen-Belsen who
were loaded on a train bound for Theresienstadt on 9 April 1945. The train
has become known as "The Lost Transport". Because of the almost total
destruction of the German rail system the train never reached Theresienstadt
(where gas chambers had been constructed after the death camps in Poland had
been overrun), but wandered through what was left of Germany for two weeks
until finally liberated by the Red Army on April 22/23.

About fifteen years ago, when Troebitz was still in the DDR, a local woman
wrote a monograph about the Lost Transport and the subsequent events in Troebitz.

I have translated the monograph, which contains extensive lists of the dead,
and would be happy to send you a copy on CD if you wish. Robert Wolf


Polish Telephone Directory Online #poland

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

I do not manage to find the Polish website of White
Pages. There are a few of the Yellow Pages.Any idea?

Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem


JRI Poland #Poland Polish Telephone Directory Online #poland

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

I do not manage to find the Polish website of White
Pages. There are a few of the Yellow Pages.Any idea?

Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem


Levi WERTHEIM fm Oestrich in North Westphalia #germany

eli-na@...
 

Dear Madams/Sirs
I will be very thankful to you with respect to the details you may find regarding
my ggrandfather Levi WERTHEIM fm Oestrich North Westphalia as following :

date and place of birth
names of parents
names of sisters/brothers

according to info. I already have, Levi WERTHEIM was married to Bertha
CAHNFELD b 14.10.1841 in Oestrich North Westphalia, they had five children
all born in Oestrich North Westphalia

Paula, Julius, Isidor, Hugo & Martha WERTHEIM. thanks & best rgds

Eli Naumann JGID 118623 Petach-Tiqva, Israel eli-na@...


German SIG #Germany Levi WERTHEIM fm Oestrich in North Westphalia #germany

eli-na@...
 

Dear Madams/Sirs
I will be very thankful to you with respect to the details you may find regarding
my ggrandfather Levi WERTHEIM fm Oestrich North Westphalia as following :

date and place of birth
names of parents
names of sisters/brothers

according to info. I already have, Levi WERTHEIM was married to Bertha
CAHNFELD b 14.10.1841 in Oestrich North Westphalia, they had five children
all born in Oestrich North Westphalia

Paula, Julius, Isidor, Hugo & Martha WERTHEIM. thanks & best rgds

Eli Naumann JGID 118623 Petach-Tiqva, Israel eli-na@...


Re: Jewish Studies Institute in Ukraine #ukraine

Bud484BG@...
 

In my most recent foray onto Google, I pulled up new to me
information on this website:
www.judaica.kiev.ua/eng/Projects/Arhivs.htm

Specifically the Archive of Jewish Heritage in Ukraine has
been collecting archives of Jewish heritage >from the Ukraine.
There are 10 areas of collections listed.

Do any of the Ukraine SIG members know anything more about
this collection?

Thanks for any feedback.

Beatrice Markel
Redondo Beach, CA

Researching in the Ukraine:
MINKOVSKY: Rozhev, Kiev, Ukraine
TALALAYEVSKY: Mokhnachka, Kiev, Ukraine


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Jewish Studies Institute in Ukraine #ukraine

Bud484BG@...
 

In my most recent foray onto Google, I pulled up new to me
information on this website:
www.judaica.kiev.ua/eng/Projects/Arhivs.htm

Specifically the Archive of Jewish Heritage in Ukraine has
been collecting archives of Jewish heritage >from the Ukraine.
There are 10 areas of collections listed.

Do any of the Ukraine SIG members know anything more about
this collection?

Thanks for any feedback.

Beatrice Markel
Redondo Beach, CA

Researching in the Ukraine:
MINKOVSKY: Rozhev, Kiev, Ukraine
TALALAYEVSKY: Mokhnachka, Kiev, Ukraine


Names puzzle #general

Aubrey Jacobus <zen28027@...>
 

I have a problem of ascertaining male forename s
1. He was Aaron ( called Harry ) but his father was thought to be Hyman .
His headstone however read Aharon ben 'Chet Nun Final Nun' and the entry in
register read ( script ) 'Aaron ben Het Nun Hay '
Suggestions and explanations welcomed .
2. Julius - with headstone Yod Vav Aleph Lamed - is it possibly a version
of shortened form of Jaacov /Koppel

Aubrey Jacobus


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Names puzzle #general

Aubrey Jacobus <zen28027@...>
 

I have a problem of ascertaining male forename s
1. He was Aaron ( called Harry ) but his father was thought to be Hyman .
His headstone however read Aharon ben 'Chet Nun Final Nun' and the entry in
register read ( script ) 'Aaron ben Het Nun Hay '
Suggestions and explanations welcomed .
2. Julius - with headstone Yod Vav Aleph Lamed - is it possibly a version
of shortened form of Jaacov /Koppel

Aubrey Jacobus


Oswiecim Records #general

Sy & Cyndie <sypearlman@...>
 

I went through Miriam's Weiner's book on Poland and could find nothing
about records >from Oswiecim. Does anyone know if there are any
records available >from Oswiecim, especially before 1912. Thanks.
Sy and Cyndie PEARLMAN, researching PEARLMAN (Bialystok,
Rozany),ROSACHOTSKY and SKOVRONEK (Lomza, Wysokie Mazowieckie),KUNOFSKY
and LEVINE (Uzda and Nesvizh), BERNBACH
and HACKEL (Ulanow, Lejzaisk), MINTZER (Glebowice), CHAIT (Kiev),
TREITELMAN (Akkerman, Odessa).


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Oswiecim Records #general

Sy & Cyndie <sypearlman@...>
 

I went through Miriam's Weiner's book on Poland and could find nothing
about records >from Oswiecim. Does anyone know if there are any
records available >from Oswiecim, especially before 1912. Thanks.
Sy and Cyndie PEARLMAN, researching PEARLMAN (Bialystok,
Rozany),ROSACHOTSKY and SKOVRONEK (Lomza, Wysokie Mazowieckie),KUNOFSKY
and LEVINE (Uzda and Nesvizh), BERNBACH
and HACKEL (Ulanow, Lejzaisk), MINTZER (Glebowice), CHAIT (Kiev),
TREITELMAN (Akkerman, Odessa).


Re: Request for improvement of 1850 online Kurenitz Revision List #belarus

David M. Fox <davefox73@...>
 

JewishGen restricts the Belarus SIG >from updating the All Belarus Database
(ABD) to once every quarter. In an effort to make at least some data
available to our members as soon as possible, our able webmaster, Edward
Rosenbaum, adds the names on new databases to the names index until
the data can be added to the ABD during the next quarterly update.

Once the data does get added to the ABD, the problems encountered by Andi,
will be resolved. Our other option is to not make the limited data
available and just wait for the quarterly update. I thought something fast
was better then waiting three months or more to see the data.

Dave
--
David Fox
Mail to: davefox73@...
Belarus SIG Coordinator
Arnold, MD USA
http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus

Andi Alpert Ziegelman wrote:
Though I'm thrilled to see online the 1850 Kurentiz Revision List, I find it
unusally difficult to use.
The difficulties are twofold: (1) family units cannot be seen, because
within each surname, the listing is done by first name alphabetical order,
and therefore the husbands of wives, and parents of children, cannot be
known without doing some inconvenient acrobatics (based on using page and
registration numbers), and (2) a more consequential difficulty: for not a
few Alperovitches (of which there are all together 600!), there is
absolutely no information provided (like "age when Revision List made" and
"name of father"), besides a first name; when there are four people bearing
the exact same name - like four of the Zalman Alperovitches on the list -
it's absolutley impossible to identify those four.
I sincerely hope that the second difficulty above-listed will be remedied.
At the very least, for each and every first name on the Kurenitz we need to
see (a) the Relationship to the Head of Household, (b) the page number and
(c) the registration number.


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Request for improvement of 1850 online Kurenitz Revision List #belarus

David M. Fox <davefox73@...>
 

JewishGen restricts the Belarus SIG >from updating the All Belarus Database
(ABD) to once every quarter. In an effort to make at least some data
available to our members as soon as possible, our able webmaster, Edward
Rosenbaum, adds the names on new databases to the names index until
the data can be added to the ABD during the next quarterly update.

Once the data does get added to the ABD, the problems encountered by Andi,
will be resolved. Our other option is to not make the limited data
available and just wait for the quarterly update. I thought something fast
was better then waiting three months or more to see the data.

Dave
--
David Fox
Mail to: davefox73@...
Belarus SIG Coordinator
Arnold, MD USA
http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus

Andi Alpert Ziegelman wrote:
Though I'm thrilled to see online the 1850 Kurentiz Revision List, I find it
unusally difficult to use.
The difficulties are twofold: (1) family units cannot be seen, because
within each surname, the listing is done by first name alphabetical order,
and therefore the husbands of wives, and parents of children, cannot be
known without doing some inconvenient acrobatics (based on using page and
registration numbers), and (2) a more consequential difficulty: for not a
few Alperovitches (of which there are all together 600!), there is
absolutely no information provided (like "age when Revision List made" and
"name of father"), besides a first name; when there are four people bearing
the exact same name - like four of the Zalman Alperovitches on the list -
it's absolutley impossible to identify those four.
I sincerely hope that the second difficulty above-listed will be remedied.
At the very least, for each and every first name on the Kurenitz we need to
see (a) the Relationship to the Head of Household, (b) the page number and
(c) the registration number.


source of surname SCHRECKINGER #general

Rochelle Kaplan <rochelle@...>
 

I seek possible derivations of surname SCHRECKINGER. Have tried German
dictionary, Yiddish sourcebooks, shtetl finder to no avail- also tried
name variants. I know Shrek means fright in German and suffix inger
means more, but this makes little sense to me. My grandfather, Osias
Schreckinger emigrated >from Sambor (now Ukraine) to US in early 1900s.
Would appreciate suggestions. Thanks.

Rochelle Kaplan
Salt Lake City

Researching: SCHRECKINGER, KARP- Sambor
KAPLAN, BREGMAN, RAPAPORT-Slutsk, Kopyl
GERSON- Riga, Bauska
ZAKS- Kraziai, Lithuania
LEIBSON/LIPSON- Brailov, Shargorod
LEBOWSKY, WEINBERG-Piaski, Peski


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen source of surname SCHRECKINGER #general

Rochelle Kaplan <rochelle@...>
 

I seek possible derivations of surname SCHRECKINGER. Have tried German
dictionary, Yiddish sourcebooks, shtetl finder to no avail- also tried
name variants. I know Shrek means fright in German and suffix inger
means more, but this makes little sense to me. My grandfather, Osias
Schreckinger emigrated >from Sambor (now Ukraine) to US in early 1900s.
Would appreciate suggestions. Thanks.

Rochelle Kaplan
Salt Lake City

Researching: SCHRECKINGER, KARP- Sambor
KAPLAN, BREGMAN, RAPAPORT-Slutsk, Kopyl
GERSON- Riga, Bauska
ZAKS- Kraziai, Lithuania
LEIBSON/LIPSON- Brailov, Shargorod
LEBOWSKY, WEINBERG-Piaski, Peski


bakers in Minsk-->The Bronx #general

Mpcamitta@...
 

Dear friends,
Do any of you have relations who were bakers either in Minsk or in the Bronx? My great grandfather Bezalel BASSEIN, a cantor, worked in the family bakery in both places. I suspect that the family surname was not BASSEIN, possibly it was his mother's family, although this is purely speculation.
Please write with information.
Thank you in advance.
Miriam Camitta (KOMITO, KOMITAU)
Wynnewood, PA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen bakers in Minsk-->The Bronx #general

Mpcamitta@...
 

Dear friends,
Do any of you have relations who were bakers either in Minsk or in the Bronx? My great grandfather Bezalel BASSEIN, a cantor, worked in the family bakery in both places. I suspect that the family surname was not BASSEIN, possibly it was his mother's family, although this is purely speculation.
Please write with information.
Thank you in advance.
Miriam Camitta (KOMITO, KOMITAU)
Wynnewood, PA


Jane LOOKATCH-MAHER, Milwaukee #general

Manning Bookstaff <mbookstaff@...>
 

Is anyone familiar with Jane LOOKATCH-MAHER who once
lived in Milwaukee. I am trying to locate her.
Please respond privately to <mbookstaff@...>.
Thanks for any help I can get.
Manning Bookstaff


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jane LOOKATCH-MAHER, Milwaukee #general

Manning Bookstaff <mbookstaff@...>
 

Is anyone familiar with Jane LOOKATCH-MAHER who once
lived in Milwaukee. I am trying to locate her.
Please respond privately to <mbookstaff@...>.
Thanks for any help I can get.
Manning Bookstaff