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Breast Cancer Gene and Genealogy research #latvia

Shelly Crane
 

Dear Fellow Genealogists,

I have been doing genealogy research for many different reasons. One in
particular is to search for relatives who might also have the same genetic
mutation that I've inherited >from my mother: the Breast Cancer-1 gene and
specifically the 185delAG mutation. Breast, ovarian and prostate cancer
are the most likely types of cancer that occur with this gene.

It appears that this common mutation has been found among the Ashkenazi
Jewish population and presumably originated form a single ancestor many
moons ago! With that said, if you have this specific gene mutation and/
or a family history of these cancers, it would be great to compare notes
and perhaps find our ancestral links, particularly if we share common
surnames...see below.

My maternal relatives lived in the Suwalki-Lomza area of Poland, but who
knows where they originated 200-300 years ago and beyond. Consequently,
I'm posting this in more than one sig digest.

Please respond privately.

Shelly Crane
crzprncess@aol.com

The following are some of the surnames in my mother's family tree.
ALEXANDROWICZ, BARANOWICZ, BRZOZA, BUGAJSKI, BUKOWICZ, CYPKOWSKI, CZAPNICKI,
DANOWSKI, DAWIDOWICZ, DOMB, FAJNTUCH, FINKIELSZTEYN, FORSZTADT, FRAJND/FROYD,
FROMSEN, GABELMAN, GARBARSKY, GOROWSKI/GURLOWSKI, GRUBAVITS, HERZSON,
HOROWICZ, HORUSZ, JAKUBINSKI, KOBRANSKI, KOWNACKI, KRASZEWSKI, LANGUS,
LIBERMAN, LIPOVICH/LIPOWICZ/LIPOFF, LIPSZYC, MICMACHER, MILEWICZ, MILSZTEJN,
NAJMARK, ORKOWSKI, OROWICZ, PERCOWNA, PIECHOTA, PIENTAK, ROSENSZTEJN,
SIEDOROWSKI, SILBERMAN, SZEINKOP, SZARFSZTEIN, SZTABINSKI, TOCZYLOWSKI,
TYCKIEWICZ, WINICKA, ZLOSTICA, ZYLBERSZTEJN


Latvia SIG #Latvia Breast Cancer Gene and Genealogy research #latvia

Shelly Crane
 

Dear Fellow Genealogists,

I have been doing genealogy research for many different reasons. One in
particular is to search for relatives who might also have the same genetic
mutation that I've inherited >from my mother: the Breast Cancer-1 gene and
specifically the 185delAG mutation. Breast, ovarian and prostate cancer
are the most likely types of cancer that occur with this gene.

It appears that this common mutation has been found among the Ashkenazi
Jewish population and presumably originated form a single ancestor many
moons ago! With that said, if you have this specific gene mutation and/
or a family history of these cancers, it would be great to compare notes
and perhaps find our ancestral links, particularly if we share common
surnames...see below.

My maternal relatives lived in the Suwalki-Lomza area of Poland, but who
knows where they originated 200-300 years ago and beyond. Consequently,
I'm posting this in more than one sig digest.

Please respond privately.

Shelly Crane
crzprncess@aol.com

The following are some of the surnames in my mother's family tree.
ALEXANDROWICZ, BARANOWICZ, BRZOZA, BUGAJSKI, BUKOWICZ, CYPKOWSKI, CZAPNICKI,
DANOWSKI, DAWIDOWICZ, DOMB, FAJNTUCH, FINKIELSZTEYN, FORSZTADT, FRAJND/FROYD,
FROMSEN, GABELMAN, GARBARSKY, GOROWSKI/GURLOWSKI, GRUBAVITS, HERZSON,
HOROWICZ, HORUSZ, JAKUBINSKI, KOBRANSKI, KOWNACKI, KRASZEWSKI, LANGUS,
LIBERMAN, LIPOVICH/LIPOWICZ/LIPOFF, LIPSZYC, MICMACHER, MILEWICZ, MILSZTEJN,
NAJMARK, ORKOWSKI, OROWICZ, PERCOWNA, PIECHOTA, PIENTAK, ROSENSZTEJN,
SIEDOROWSKI, SILBERMAN, SZEINKOP, SZARFSZTEIN, SZTABINSKI, TOCZYLOWSKI,
TYCKIEWICZ, WINICKA, ZLOSTICA, ZYLBERSZTEJN


German/Polish Translation Required from ViewMate #poland

Tamar Amit <tamar.amit@...>
 

I just came across these documents belonging to my Grandparents -
Joel and Fajga Gewircman
I am baffled by the fact that these are >from 1942 and contain Nazi stamps.

What I knew >from them is that they continuously dodged transports by
use of fake documents portraying them as a Polish-Catholic family -
Schepula.
I marked specially areas in RED to narrow down required translation.
If anyone can add information on this issue or document type - please do.

The documents can be found in ViewMate:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5996
- My Grandmother's card
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5997
- My Grandfather's card

The following is supposedly a copy of their marriage certificate.
I would appreciate a word-for-word on this doc.
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5995

Please reply to me privately. Thanks in advance,

Tamar Amit
Givatayim, ISRAEL


JRI Poland #Poland German/Polish Translation Required from ViewMate #poland

Tamar Amit <tamar.amit@...>
 

I just came across these documents belonging to my Grandparents -
Joel and Fajga Gewircman
I am baffled by the fact that these are >from 1942 and contain Nazi stamps.

What I knew >from them is that they continuously dodged transports by
use of fake documents portraying them as a Polish-Catholic family -
Schepula.
I marked specially areas in RED to narrow down required translation.
If anyone can add information on this issue or document type - please do.

The documents can be found in ViewMate:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5996
- My Grandmother's card
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5997
- My Grandfather's card

The following is supposedly a copy of their marriage certificate.
I would appreciate a word-for-word on this doc.
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5995

Please reply to me privately. Thanks in advance,

Tamar Amit
Givatayim, ISRAEL


Re: Latvia: Synagogues and Rabbis (1918-1940) #latvia

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 

Yes, this would definitely be of interest, IMHO!

Martha Lev-Zion

On 2 May 2005, at 3:26, Marion Plotkin wrote:
Please advise...would this book be of interest to Kurlander
descendants? ...snip...


Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: Latvia: Synagogues and Rabbis (1918-1940) #latvia

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 

Yes, this would definitely be of interest, IMHO!

Martha Lev-Zion

On 2 May 2005, at 3:26, Marion Plotkin wrote:
Please advise...would this book be of interest to Kurlander
descendants? ...snip...


HOLLÄNDER and ZINNEMANN family from Mitau/Jelgava? #latvia

"Robert Alexander René Dupuis" <Rob.Dup.@...>
 

Shalom,

I'm searching for living descendences of my following relativs:

The merchant Alexander/Aron/ Natalovitsch HOL[L]ENDER/HOLLÄNDER (b. 1841 in
Jelgava/Mitau, d. Riga ? Son of Nathan Nathan HOLLÄNDER, b. 1808 [in Mitau
?]d. ?). Alexander ben Nathan HOLLÄNDER was married with Karoline/Kreine/
Isaakovna KEILMANN (b. 1844 in Riga; daughter of the career Isaak ben Feibus
KEILMANN and Jette Hinde COHN) on June 10, 1873 in Riga. >
Karoline KEILMANN was the youngest sister of my late great-greatgrandfather
the concillour of state and knight Dr.med. Philipp Isaakovitsch KEILMANN <.
Alexander and Karoline HOLLÄNDER had two living childs:

1.) Bertha/Pen/Alexandrovna Zinnemann, nee HOLLÄNDER (b. 1874 in Riga, d. ?
She was married with Judel Chamovitsch Zinnemann on 1890/92 in Riga.)

2.) Helena Alexandrovna HOLLÄNDER (b. ? in Riga, married ? d. ?)

If you'r a gggrandchild of Bertha or Helena HOLLÄNDER or if you'r relatet
with the HOLLÄNDER family >from Jelgava/Mitau, please contact me, cause I'm
searching for more documents and photos of this part of my maternal family.

--
Robert Dupuis
Berlin/Germany


Latvia SIG #Latvia HOLLÄNDER and ZINNEMANN family from Mitau/Jelgava? #latvia

"Robert Alexander René Dupuis" <Rob.Dup.@...>
 

Shalom,

I'm searching for living descendences of my following relativs:

The merchant Alexander/Aron/ Natalovitsch HOL[L]ENDER/HOLLÄNDER (b. 1841 in
Jelgava/Mitau, d. Riga ? Son of Nathan Nathan HOLLÄNDER, b. 1808 [in Mitau
?]d. ?). Alexander ben Nathan HOLLÄNDER was married with Karoline/Kreine/
Isaakovna KEILMANN (b. 1844 in Riga; daughter of the career Isaak ben Feibus
KEILMANN and Jette Hinde COHN) on June 10, 1873 in Riga. >
Karoline KEILMANN was the youngest sister of my late great-greatgrandfather
the concillour of state and knight Dr.med. Philipp Isaakovitsch KEILMANN <.
Alexander and Karoline HOLLÄNDER had two living childs:

1.) Bertha/Pen/Alexandrovna Zinnemann, nee HOLLÄNDER (b. 1874 in Riga, d. ?
She was married with Judel Chamovitsch Zinnemann on 1890/92 in Riga.)

2.) Helena Alexandrovna HOLLÄNDER (b. ? in Riga, married ? d. ?)

If you'r a gggrandchild of Bertha or Helena HOLLÄNDER or if you'r relatet
with the HOLLÄNDER family >from Jelgava/Mitau, please contact me, cause I'm
searching for more documents and photos of this part of my maternal family.

--
Robert Dupuis
Berlin/Germany


Breast Cancer and Genealogy Research #dna

Shelly Crane
 

Dear Fellow Genealogists,

I have been doing genealogy research for many different reasons. One
in particular is to search for relatives who might also have the
same genetic mutation that I've inherited >from my mother: the Breast
Cancer-1 gene and specifically the 185delAG mutation. Breast,
ovarian and prostate cancer are the most likely types of cancer that
occur with this gene. It appears that this common mutation has been
found among the Ashkenazi Jewish population and presumably
originated form a single ancestor many moons ago! With that said,
if you have this specific gene mutation and/or a family history of
these cancers, it would be great to compare notes and perhaps find
our ancestral links, particularly if we share common surnames...see
below.

My maternal relatives lived in the Suwalki-Lomza area of Poland, but
who knows where they originated 200-300 years ago and beyond.
Consequently, I'm posting this in more than one sig digest. Please
respond privately.

Shelly Crane
crzprncess@aol.com

The following are some of the surnames in my mother's family tree.
ALEXANDROWICZ,BARANOWICZ,BRZOZA,BUGAJSKI,BUKOWICZ,CYPKOWSKI,CZAPNICKI,
DANOWSKI,DAWIDOWICZ,DOMB,FAJNTUCH,FINKIELSZTEYN,FORSZTADT,FRAJND/FROYD,
FROMSEN,GABELMAN,GARBARSKY,GOROWSKI/GURLOWSKI,GRUBAVITS,HERZSON,HOROWICZ,
HORUSZ,JAKUBINSKI,KOBRANSKI,KOWNACKI,KRASZEWSKI,LANGUS,LIBERMAN,LIPOVICH/
LIPOWICZ/LIPOFF,LIPSZYC,MICMACHER,MILEWICZ,MILSZTEJN,NAJMARK,ORKOWSKI,
OROWICZ,PERCOWNA,PIECHOTA,PIENTAK,ROSENSZTEJN,SIEDOROWSKI,SILBERMAN,
SZEINKOP,SZARFSZTEIN,SZTABINSKI,TOCZYLOWSKI,TYCKIEWICZ,WINICKA,ZLOSTICA,
ZYLBERSZTEJN

[MODERATOR'S NOTE: JewishGen's Guidelines permit a maximum of six
lines (of 72 characters) for the surnames being researched. We will
be enforcing this limit in future posts.]


DNA Research #DNA Breast Cancer and Genealogy Research #dna

Shelly Crane
 

Dear Fellow Genealogists,

I have been doing genealogy research for many different reasons. One
in particular is to search for relatives who might also have the
same genetic mutation that I've inherited >from my mother: the Breast
Cancer-1 gene and specifically the 185delAG mutation. Breast,
ovarian and prostate cancer are the most likely types of cancer that
occur with this gene. It appears that this common mutation has been
found among the Ashkenazi Jewish population and presumably
originated form a single ancestor many moons ago! With that said,
if you have this specific gene mutation and/or a family history of
these cancers, it would be great to compare notes and perhaps find
our ancestral links, particularly if we share common surnames...see
below.

My maternal relatives lived in the Suwalki-Lomza area of Poland, but
who knows where they originated 200-300 years ago and beyond.
Consequently, I'm posting this in more than one sig digest. Please
respond privately.

Shelly Crane
crzprncess@aol.com

The following are some of the surnames in my mother's family tree.
ALEXANDROWICZ,BARANOWICZ,BRZOZA,BUGAJSKI,BUKOWICZ,CYPKOWSKI,CZAPNICKI,
DANOWSKI,DAWIDOWICZ,DOMB,FAJNTUCH,FINKIELSZTEYN,FORSZTADT,FRAJND/FROYD,
FROMSEN,GABELMAN,GARBARSKY,GOROWSKI/GURLOWSKI,GRUBAVITS,HERZSON,HOROWICZ,
HORUSZ,JAKUBINSKI,KOBRANSKI,KOWNACKI,KRASZEWSKI,LANGUS,LIBERMAN,LIPOVICH/
LIPOWICZ/LIPOFF,LIPSZYC,MICMACHER,MILEWICZ,MILSZTEJN,NAJMARK,ORKOWSKI,
OROWICZ,PERCOWNA,PIECHOTA,PIENTAK,ROSENSZTEJN,SIEDOROWSKI,SILBERMAN,
SZEINKOP,SZARFSZTEIN,SZTABINSKI,TOCZYLOWSKI,TYCKIEWICZ,WINICKA,ZLOSTICA,
ZYLBERSZTEJN

[MODERATOR'S NOTE: JewishGen's Guidelines permit a maximum of six
lines (of 72 characters) for the surnames being researched. We will
be enforcing this limit in future posts.]


Yizkor Book Project for April 2005 #hungary

Joyce Field
 

Because of the Pesach holiday, April 2005 was a "short" month and our
production reflects that. One new book and 14 updated books went
online. All translations can be accessed at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/translations.html and the current
additions have been flagged to make the search easier.

I would like to remind all new researchers that you can find whether
a yizkor book has been written about a particular town at the Yizkor
Book Database, http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/database.html. You
can search the Necrology Index at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/yizkor/. Our index to this
database says the following:


"The JewishGen Yizkor Book Necrology Database indexes the names of
persons in the necrologies -- the lists of Holocaust martyrs --
published in the Yizkor Books appearing on the JewishGen Yizkor Book
Translation Project. This database is only an index of names; it
directs researchers back to the Yizkor Book itself, where more
complete information may be available.

This database allows the surnames to be searched via soundex.
Because most of these names were transliterated >from Hebrew and
Yiddish, the spellings of the surnames may not be as you are used to
seeing them in Latin-alphabet sources."

This database currently contains over 165,000 entries >from the
necrologies of 177 different yizkor books. Remember that not all
yizkor books have necrologies.

New book:

"With a rifle in my hand and Eretz Israel in my heart" by Dov Levin,
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/dovlevin1/dovlevin1.html.

Updated books:

-Belchatow, Poland, http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/Belchatow/Belchatow.html
-Belchatow, Poland,
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/Belchatow_ann/Belchatow_ann.html
-Bolekhov, Ukraine
-Brest, Belarus, volume 2
-Bukowina book
-Chelm, Poland
-Czestochowa, Poland,
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/Czestochowa1/Czestochowa1.html
-Holocaust in Belarus
-Jewish Music in Poland between the World Wars
-Maramures Region
-Novogrudok, Belarus
-Nowy Sacz, Poland
-Radomsko, Poland
-Shumskoye, Ukraine

As always, we wish to thank all the donors of material and the
project coordinators for their donations of translations and their
precious time. Nothing can be accomplished without your interest in
the Yizkor Book Project. We are always interested in new material
and look forward to hearing >from researchers wanting to start a new
translation project.

Joyce Field
Yizkor Book Project
JewishGen V.P., Data Acquisition
jfield@jewishgen.org


Hungary SIG #Hungary Yizkor Book Project for April 2005 #hungary

Joyce Field
 

Because of the Pesach holiday, April 2005 was a "short" month and our
production reflects that. One new book and 14 updated books went
online. All translations can be accessed at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/translations.html and the current
additions have been flagged to make the search easier.

I would like to remind all new researchers that you can find whether
a yizkor book has been written about a particular town at the Yizkor
Book Database, http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/database.html. You
can search the Necrology Index at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/yizkor/. Our index to this
database says the following:


"The JewishGen Yizkor Book Necrology Database indexes the names of
persons in the necrologies -- the lists of Holocaust martyrs --
published in the Yizkor Books appearing on the JewishGen Yizkor Book
Translation Project. This database is only an index of names; it
directs researchers back to the Yizkor Book itself, where more
complete information may be available.

This database allows the surnames to be searched via soundex.
Because most of these names were transliterated >from Hebrew and
Yiddish, the spellings of the surnames may not be as you are used to
seeing them in Latin-alphabet sources."

This database currently contains over 165,000 entries >from the
necrologies of 177 different yizkor books. Remember that not all
yizkor books have necrologies.

New book:

"With a rifle in my hand and Eretz Israel in my heart" by Dov Levin,
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/dovlevin1/dovlevin1.html.

Updated books:

-Belchatow, Poland, http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/Belchatow/Belchatow.html
-Belchatow, Poland,
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/Belchatow_ann/Belchatow_ann.html
-Bolekhov, Ukraine
-Brest, Belarus, volume 2
-Bukowina book
-Chelm, Poland
-Czestochowa, Poland,
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/Czestochowa1/Czestochowa1.html
-Holocaust in Belarus
-Jewish Music in Poland between the World Wars
-Maramures Region
-Novogrudok, Belarus
-Nowy Sacz, Poland
-Radomsko, Poland
-Shumskoye, Ukraine

As always, we wish to thank all the donors of material and the
project coordinators for their donations of translations and their
precious time. Nothing can be accomplished without your interest in
the Yizkor Book Project. We are always interested in new material
and look forward to hearing >from researchers wanting to start a new
translation project.

Joyce Field
Yizkor Book Project
JewishGen V.P., Data Acquisition
jfield@jewishgen.org


Viviane Kluska #hungary

עמירה משיח <amira_m@...>
 

Sorry I'm doing this through the SIG but don't have any other option.
I have problems contacting Viviane Kluska cause she's got an e-mail of
"aol.com".
Viviane Kluska, please send me an e-mail address [not of "aol.com"] so I
can send my answer ....

Amira, Israel, amira_m@masaryk.org.il


Hungary SIG #Hungary Viviane Kluska #hungary

עמירה משיח <amira_m@...>
 

Sorry I'm doing this through the SIG but don't have any other option.
I have problems contacting Viviane Kluska cause she's got an e-mail of
"aol.com".
Viviane Kluska, please send me an e-mail address [not of "aol.com"] so I
can send my answer ....

Amira, Israel, amira_m@masaryk.org.il


Re: Almanac and directory of the Hungarian railways #hungary

VivianeCK2003@...
 

Hi!
Have you tried Radix? I used it with success. The website is user -
friendly.
Viviane Kluska
Canton, Michigan
vivianeck2003@aol.com

In a message dated 4/29/2005 2:52:17 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
dennis.baer@verizon.net writes:
My great grandfather Samuel ( SHMUEL ) ZANVIL SCHANCZ (Schanz)

worked as the railroad station master in Munkacs, Hungary >from about 1885
until 1905.

I want to see if someone can find any records for him.

Thank you.

Dennis Baer


Re: The DEUTSCH family from TAB - ADAND-SIOFOK - 2015 #hungary

Klausner
 

To Nava Shavua Tov,
I am sorry that I cannot help you in your quest. It seems, however, that
reading yor letter I have detected a discrepancy in it.
At the beginning of your letter you write that Lipot DEUTSCHs wife was Kati,
at the end Lipot's wife was Sari CZEISZLER. Which one is it?
Best regards yehuda

Join the Israel Genealogical Society (IGS) and receive our bi-lingual
Journal
"Sharsheret Hadorot"
Society branches are in Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Haifa, Negev (Beer Sheva),
Netanya.
ehfurman@netvision.net.il

Dr. Yehuda Klausner
yklaus@netvision.net.il
yehudakl@bgumail.bgu.ac.il
klausner@alumni.princeton.edu

Searching:
KLAUSNER (KLAUZNER, CLOISNER, KLUZNER, etc.), BARZAM, KADISH, BUSHKE
(BOSHKE), ZEINWIRT (ZENVIRT),
EILENBERG (ILENBERG), LIEBERMAN (all spellings), WITKIND, HOCHGELEHRNTER
(GELEHRNTER), ENGLMAN (ENGELMAN), IROM (IRAM)
TEUMIM, MICHELSON Great Britain, South Africa, Rhodesia etc.),
Descendants of Moshe ben Meir KATZNELENBOGEN of Chelm, HERLING,
KATZ, (HaCOHEN, KAHANE, COHEN, etc.) >from Galicia, GRINBERG (all spellings).

----- Original Message -----
From: "âéøåï" <nava105@bezeqint.net>
To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 6:14 AM
Subject: [h-sig] The DEUTSCH family >from TAB - ADAND-SIOFOK


Hello,
First I would like to say that dealing with a very common family name like
DEUTSCH , I know my chances are slim, however I descided to give it a
try.
In my Father's family not only the Jewish name repeats itself but the
General name does as well:
My gggf was LIPOT his son., My ggf was LAJOS, my gf was LIPOT and my
fater's
second name is LAJOS !!!!
The hebrew names repeating themselves are :YEHUDA, YOCHANAN, ELIEZER ( I
hope my English transcription is readable)
They used a combination my father is : YEHUDA YOCHANAN ben ( son of )
ELIEZER
on my gf tumbstone we read ELIEZER YEHUDA ben YOCHANAN and you can
calculate this backwards.

what is the known data:
1. We have a copy of my ggf 's marrige certificate where his parents are
listed as DEUTSCH LIPOT and KATI
( no maiden name and I belive she probably was KATALIN or something ).
No dates for these two.
2. my ggf is LAJOS DEUTSCH born 1861 in ADAND Hungary
married BETTI GOLDHAMMER born 1858 in TAB Hungary
The marrige took plae in TAB.
3. They had 4 Children:

3.1 MARGIT born 1886 in ADAND died in AUSCHWITZ 1944
married IZIDOR STEINER who faught in the Hungarian army in WWI and died
there.
She lived in Siofok and had adepartment store there.
their daughter ROZSI born 1914 in SIOFOK died in AUSCHWITZ 1944 married
ISTVAN IMMERGLUCK they lived in UJPEST
their grand daughter ZSUZSANA born 1936 died in AUSCHWITZ 1944

3.2 ERZABET born 1896 in ADAND died in AUSCHWITZ 1944
married ANDOR KELEMEN . no children.

3.3 SANDOR born in ADAND married KLARA TANDLICH their daughter Currently
lives in AUSTRALIA and we are in touch with her and her family .

3.4 My gf LIPOT born 1891 ADAND died 1939 SIOFOK
married SARI CZEISZLER born 1898 UJPEST died 1936 UJPEST.

Does this sound familliar to anyone? I guess my ggf probably had sisters
or
brothers and if he didn't may be his parents had.
My father doesn't recall any relatives apart >from his uncles and aunts and
their families.
This is strange as my father even knew relatives of Izidor Steiner and of
Andor Kelemen - with those we are in close contacts

Thanks
Nava Giron
ISRAEL


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Almanac and directory of the Hungarian railways #hungary

VivianeCK2003@...
 

Hi!
Have you tried Radix? I used it with success. The website is user -
friendly.
Viviane Kluska
Canton, Michigan
vivianeck2003@aol.com

In a message dated 4/29/2005 2:52:17 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
dennis.baer@verizon.net writes:
My great grandfather Samuel ( SHMUEL ) ZANVIL SCHANCZ (Schanz)

worked as the railroad station master in Munkacs, Hungary >from about 1885
until 1905.

I want to see if someone can find any records for him.

Thank you.

Dennis Baer


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: The DEUTSCH family from TAB - ADAND-SIOFOK - 2015 #hungary

Klausner
 

To Nava Shavua Tov,
I am sorry that I cannot help you in your quest. It seems, however, that
reading yor letter I have detected a discrepancy in it.
At the beginning of your letter you write that Lipot DEUTSCHs wife was Kati,
at the end Lipot's wife was Sari CZEISZLER. Which one is it?
Best regards yehuda

Join the Israel Genealogical Society (IGS) and receive our bi-lingual
Journal
"Sharsheret Hadorot"
Society branches are in Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Haifa, Negev (Beer Sheva),
Netanya.
ehfurman@netvision.net.il

Dr. Yehuda Klausner
yklaus@netvision.net.il
yehudakl@bgumail.bgu.ac.il
klausner@alumni.princeton.edu

Searching:
KLAUSNER (KLAUZNER, CLOISNER, KLUZNER, etc.), BARZAM, KADISH, BUSHKE
(BOSHKE), ZEINWIRT (ZENVIRT),
EILENBERG (ILENBERG), LIEBERMAN (all spellings), WITKIND, HOCHGELEHRNTER
(GELEHRNTER), ENGLMAN (ENGELMAN), IROM (IRAM)
TEUMIM, MICHELSON Great Britain, South Africa, Rhodesia etc.),
Descendants of Moshe ben Meir KATZNELENBOGEN of Chelm, HERLING,
KATZ, (HaCOHEN, KAHANE, COHEN, etc.) >from Galicia, GRINBERG (all spellings).

----- Original Message -----
From: "âéøåï" <nava105@bezeqint.net>
To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 6:14 AM
Subject: [h-sig] The DEUTSCH family >from TAB - ADAND-SIOFOK


Hello,
First I would like to say that dealing with a very common family name like
DEUTSCH , I know my chances are slim, however I descided to give it a
try.
In my Father's family not only the Jewish name repeats itself but the
General name does as well:
My gggf was LIPOT his son., My ggf was LAJOS, my gf was LIPOT and my
fater's
second name is LAJOS !!!!
The hebrew names repeating themselves are :YEHUDA, YOCHANAN, ELIEZER ( I
hope my English transcription is readable)
They used a combination my father is : YEHUDA YOCHANAN ben ( son of )
ELIEZER
on my gf tumbstone we read ELIEZER YEHUDA ben YOCHANAN and you can
calculate this backwards.

what is the known data:
1. We have a copy of my ggf 's marrige certificate where his parents are
listed as DEUTSCH LIPOT and KATI
( no maiden name and I belive she probably was KATALIN or something ).
No dates for these two.
2. my ggf is LAJOS DEUTSCH born 1861 in ADAND Hungary
married BETTI GOLDHAMMER born 1858 in TAB Hungary
The marrige took plae in TAB.
3. They had 4 Children:

3.1 MARGIT born 1886 in ADAND died in AUSCHWITZ 1944
married IZIDOR STEINER who faught in the Hungarian army in WWI and died
there.
She lived in Siofok and had adepartment store there.
their daughter ROZSI born 1914 in SIOFOK died in AUSCHWITZ 1944 married
ISTVAN IMMERGLUCK they lived in UJPEST
their grand daughter ZSUZSANA born 1936 died in AUSCHWITZ 1944

3.2 ERZABET born 1896 in ADAND died in AUSCHWITZ 1944
married ANDOR KELEMEN . no children.

3.3 SANDOR born in ADAND married KLARA TANDLICH their daughter Currently
lives in AUSTRALIA and we are in touch with her and her family .

3.4 My gf LIPOT born 1891 ADAND died 1939 SIOFOK
married SARI CZEISZLER born 1898 UJPEST died 1936 UJPEST.

Does this sound familliar to anyone? I guess my ggf probably had sisters
or
brothers and if he didn't may be his parents had.
My father doesn't recall any relatives apart >from his uncles and aunts and
their families.
This is strange as my father even knew relatives of Izidor Steiner and of
Andor Kelemen - with those we are in close contacts

Thanks
Nava Giron
ISRAEL


Re: Nyirbakta Jewish records #hungary

Robert Neu
 

According to the 1877 Hungarian Gazettteer and now
"The Genealogical Gazetteer of the Kindom of Hungary"
just published by Avotaynu there were 111 Jews in
Nyirbakya and they worshipped im (Nyir)Mada.

THe FHL catalog available on line:
www.familysearch.org
Has the following entry:

Title Anyakönyvek, 1851-1895
Authors Izraelita Hitközseg, Mada (Szabolcs) (Main
Author)

Notes Az eredeti iratok mikrofilmrevétele Budapesten a
Magyar Országos Levéltárban történt.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Registers of Jewish births, marriages and deaths for
Mada, later called Nyírmada.


Subjects Hungary, Szabolcs, Mada - Jewish records


Format Manuscript (On Film)
Language Hungarian
German
Publication Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmre vette a
Genealogical Society of Utah, 1965
Physical 1 mikrofilmtekercs ; 35 mm.

Title Anyakönyvek, 1851-1895
Authors Izraelita Hitközseg, Mada (Szabolcs) (Main
Author)

Note Location
Film
Születtek, házasultak, halottak 1880-1885 Születtek
1885-1895 Házasultak 1851-1876, 1886-1895 Halottak
1886-1895 Születtek, házasultak, halottak 1883-1895
FHL INTL Film
642914



--- Miriam Klein <mpklein@hotmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone located the Kehilla records of Nyirbakta
in any of the LDS
microfilms? I'm interested in marriage records of
the 1870s and 1880s.

Thanks.


Re: Keen to hear your opinion on it - was it the same person? #hungary

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz
 

Dear Andras,
In many cases Mozes was Mor and/or Moritz, Sara was Saly, Jakab was Ignacz
in everyday life. The Hebrew name was used only in the synagogue. The
initial letters are the same, but even that is not necessary, My father
Moshe (born 1894) was Jeno", his brother David was Erno", another brother
Menachem was Gyula. My grandfather Yehuda was Ignacz (the same emroidered
monogram for both names, also for Ignacz and Jakab). I have two names in
Hebrew: Yosef and Meir but in Hungarian only Jozsef. The same case might be
in your Mayer.
Shabbat Shalom ve-Chag Sameach
Yosef Meir

Dr. Joseph M. Schwarcz
Dr. Ida Selavan Schwarcz

-----Original Message-----
From: Andras Koltai [mailto:kolamcg@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 1:16 PM
To: H-SIG
Subject: [h-sig] Keen to hear your opinion on it - was it the same person?


Dear HSiggers,

I have just discovered a brother to my gg-grandfather
in Zemplen county in the second half of the 19th
century. The problem is that it may be two brothers -
or is it the same person? I would be glad to hear your
opinion on it.

The family was called Hechtmann, which is a very rare
name. There was only one single Hechtmann family
living in Hungary in appr. 1850 and they were living
in Vasarhely, Zemplen. (This way I very rarely find
anything about this branch of my family, but when I
do, it is surely related to my family.) Jakab
Hechtmann had two sons I had known about. But there
was a third one, too:

According to the Vasarhely birth-, marriage- and death
records Moses Hechtmann and Sara Scheindl had a son
named Ignac Mayer in 1868, had another named Samuel in
1872. Then Moses Hechtmann died in 1873 aged 28.

According to the Vasarhely census dated 1870, there
was a Moritz Hechtmann living there (born in 1839).
His wife was Sali Kornhauser and they had a son called
Jakab, who was born in 1868.

I just cannot decide whether Mor and Moses were the
same person.

The reasons why I think they were: 1) people having
the Jewish name Moses were usually called in Moritz in
official papers 2) there was only one Hechtmann
family, there is no evidence whatsoever that TWO
families called Hechtmann were living in Vasarhely
paralelly 3) my gg-grandfather had a son called Mayer
Jakab, too, 4) Mayer and Jakab were both born in 1868.

The reasons why I think they were not: 1) their
birthyears differ 2) their wives had different names
3) Mayer and Jakab are two different names, too.

Could it be that Sara Scheindl was the Jewish name of
Sali Kornhauser, Ignac Mayer was the Jewish name of
Jakab and that the birthyears differ as they so often
do in those old papers?

I would be interested to hear you comments on my
gg-grandfather and his difficult family.

Thank you and kind regards,
Andras Koltai
Budapest