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Re: Pamela Furmidge's Family Mystery #hungary

Pamela Furmidge <pamela.furmidge@...>
 

Thank you for your reply. It is definitely one and the same Martin Heller.
Perhaps I should have explained that there were two mothers (both English)
involved - the three sons were my mother's half brothers. My grandfather
travelled a lot "on business" and moved between UK and Europe.

Unfortunately, a lot of my mother's papers were lost during World War II,
when her house was bombed. Quite a brick wall!

----- Original Message -----
From: "John J Kovacs" <j.kovacs@sbcglobal.net>
To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 5:34 PM
Subject: [h-sig] Pamela Furmidge's Family Mystery


Pamela Furmidge is trying to reasearch her grandfather
and his family.

I think your family mystery lies with your mother. If
you can locate her birth record, probably in the city
of Arad records then I think you will have your
grandfather's proper name.

Was your mother in the Heller grandfather's will who
died in 1928? I am sure you must have thought about
the interesting fact that the "grandfather" you found
had children in the U.K. in 1905 and fathered your
mother in Hungary in 1911 and possibly other children
and still supposedly living and finally being buried
in the UK in 1928. Could you be loooking at two
different Hellers?

I suspect that you must have carefully looked through
your mother's papers for birth records, travel
documents, immigration papers, etc. In any case if
she was born in Arad in 1911 her birth had to
registered with the authorities in Arad and her father
and mother's names were also recorded. This should be
your best bet for finding your grandfather's proper
name.
John Kovacs


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Pamela Furmidge's Family Mystery #hungary

Pamela Furmidge <pamela.furmidge@...>
 

Thank you for your reply. It is definitely one and the same Martin Heller.
Perhaps I should have explained that there were two mothers (both English)
involved - the three sons were my mother's half brothers. My grandfather
travelled a lot "on business" and moved between UK and Europe.

Unfortunately, a lot of my mother's papers were lost during World War II,
when her house was bombed. Quite a brick wall!

----- Original Message -----
From: "John J Kovacs" <j.kovacs@sbcglobal.net>
To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 5:34 PM
Subject: [h-sig] Pamela Furmidge's Family Mystery


Pamela Furmidge is trying to reasearch her grandfather
and his family.

I think your family mystery lies with your mother. If
you can locate her birth record, probably in the city
of Arad records then I think you will have your
grandfather's proper name.

Was your mother in the Heller grandfather's will who
died in 1928? I am sure you must have thought about
the interesting fact that the "grandfather" you found
had children in the U.K. in 1905 and fathered your
mother in Hungary in 1911 and possibly other children
and still supposedly living and finally being buried
in the UK in 1928. Could you be loooking at two
different Hellers?

I suspect that you must have carefully looked through
your mother's papers for birth records, travel
documents, immigration papers, etc. In any case if
she was born in Arad in 1911 her birth had to
registered with the authorities in Arad and her father
and mother's names were also recorded. This should be
your best bet for finding your grandfather's proper
name.
John Kovacs


Re: 1869 Census #hungary

Robert Neu
 

That's fine, the search by town should also work, and
it should work with either Hungarian or Slovak names
and give the reference for all films for the town.

Robert

--- Michael Miller <mmillermrpjd@hotmail.com> wrote:

I beg to differ with Robert Neu about use of the
Family History Library
Catalog for the 1869 Census in North Hungary now
Slovakia. I have
personally used it for that purpose many times, and
have discussed with
Dominique Lang who is raising this issue.

Most records for 1869 are not principally catalogued
by town, but by County.
It is not difficult to enter a County name (Nyitra
here) into the "place
search" which will bring up a list of Nyitra places,
the first of which has
no sub-listing (Hungary, Nyitra). Clicking on that
link brings up three
county-wide records, one of which is the 1869
Census. Clicking on that
link, and then on "show film notes" brings up the
624 entries for places on
the films. One has to sort through them (unless you
can take a short cut by
knowing the Slovakian district (Jaras) to move
around faster).

Anyone can find the six listings for Ersekujvar/Nove
Zamky (towns are listed
alphabetically by Hungarian town name within each
Jaras and have the current
Slovakian name appended)):

Érsekujvár (Nové Zámky) VAULT INTL Film 2150656
Item 3
(folyt.) Érsekujvár (Nové Zámky) VAULT INTL Film
2150657 Item 1
(folyt.) Érsekujvár (Nové Zámky) VAULT INTL Film
2150658 Item 1
(folyt.) Érsekujvár (Nové Zámky) VAULT INTL Film
2150659 Item 1
(folyt.) Érsekujvár (Nové Zámky) VAULT INTL Film
2150660 Item 1
(folyt.) Érsekujvár (Nové Zámky) VAULT INTL Film
2150804 Item 1

Michael W. Miller
Napa. California

WILLHEIM (Hungary, Slovakia)
GROSSMAN (Miskolc)


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: 1869 Census #hungary

Robert Neu
 

That's fine, the search by town should also work, and
it should work with either Hungarian or Slovak names
and give the reference for all films for the town.

Robert

--- Michael Miller <mmillermrpjd@hotmail.com> wrote:

I beg to differ with Robert Neu about use of the
Family History Library
Catalog for the 1869 Census in North Hungary now
Slovakia. I have
personally used it for that purpose many times, and
have discussed with
Dominique Lang who is raising this issue.

Most records for 1869 are not principally catalogued
by town, but by County.
It is not difficult to enter a County name (Nyitra
here) into the "place
search" which will bring up a list of Nyitra places,
the first of which has
no sub-listing (Hungary, Nyitra). Clicking on that
link brings up three
county-wide records, one of which is the 1869
Census. Clicking on that
link, and then on "show film notes" brings up the
624 entries for places on
the films. One has to sort through them (unless you
can take a short cut by
knowing the Slovakian district (Jaras) to move
around faster).

Anyone can find the six listings for Ersekujvar/Nove
Zamky (towns are listed
alphabetically by Hungarian town name within each
Jaras and have the current
Slovakian name appended)):

Érsekujvár (Nové Zámky) VAULT INTL Film 2150656
Item 3
(folyt.) Érsekujvár (Nové Zámky) VAULT INTL Film
2150657 Item 1
(folyt.) Érsekujvár (Nové Zámky) VAULT INTL Film
2150658 Item 1
(folyt.) Érsekujvár (Nové Zámky) VAULT INTL Film
2150659 Item 1
(folyt.) Érsekujvár (Nové Zámky) VAULT INTL Film
2150660 Item 1
(folyt.) Érsekujvár (Nové Zámky) VAULT INTL Film
2150804 Item 1

Michael W. Miller
Napa. California

WILLHEIM (Hungary, Slovakia)
GROSSMAN (Miskolc)


Looking for Joseph WEISZ #hungary

Ruben Weiser <weiser@...>
 

Hi to all.

I am looking for Joseph WEISZ or any decendent.
He is my grandfather cousin.
He lived in kispest before the war
He may be now 85 years old.
the last time my grandfather met him was in budapest after the war.
he survived with some with his small childrens.

any body know anything about him?

thanks
Ruben WEISER
Buenos Aires.
ARGENTINA

Moderator: Have you checked the All Hungary Database or JewishGen's Holocaust Databases at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/? It's much easier for us to help you with your research if you give us some information about the resources that you have already examined.


Looking for Armin HONIG or piszta HONIG #hungary

Ruben Weiser <weiser@...>
 

Hi to all.

I am looking for Armin HONIG (ha cohen) or a decendent.
He is my grandmother's cousin and lived in Debrecen before the war.
The last time she met him was just after the war in Paris.
He has at least a son named Piszta.
He may be now aprox 85 years old

Anybody know anything about him?

Thanks

Ruben WEISER
Buenos Aires
ARGENTINA

Moderator: Have you checked JewishGen's Holocaust databases?


Hungary SIG #Hungary Looking for Joseph WEISZ #hungary

Ruben Weiser <weiser@...>
 

Hi to all.

I am looking for Joseph WEISZ or any decendent.
He is my grandfather cousin.
He lived in kispest before the war
He may be now 85 years old.
the last time my grandfather met him was in budapest after the war.
he survived with some with his small childrens.

any body know anything about him?

thanks
Ruben WEISER
Buenos Aires.
ARGENTINA

Moderator: Have you checked the All Hungary Database or JewishGen's Holocaust Databases at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/? It's much easier for us to help you with your research if you give us some information about the resources that you have already examined.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Looking for Armin HONIG or piszta HONIG #hungary

Ruben Weiser <weiser@...>
 

Hi to all.

I am looking for Armin HONIG (ha cohen) or a decendent.
He is my grandmother's cousin and lived in Debrecen before the war.
The last time she met him was just after the war in Paris.
He has at least a son named Piszta.
He may be now aprox 85 years old

Anybody know anything about him?

Thanks

Ruben WEISER
Buenos Aires
ARGENTINA

Moderator: Have you checked JewishGen's Holocaust databases?


Shul on Stone Ave Brooklyn #general

MEL OSHINS
 

Does anyone have information about a Shul on Stone Ave. near Livonia,
Brownsville, Brooklyn, NY.?

Mel Oshins


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Shul on Stone Ave Brooklyn #general

MEL OSHINS
 

Does anyone have information about a Shul on Stone Ave. near Livonia,
Brownsville, Brooklyn, NY.?

Mel Oshins


Fw: ELLENBOGEN of WARSZAWA #warsaw #poland

Mauricio Olsztajn <mauricio@...>
 

I am working on the ELLENBOGEN family of Warsawa.

My mother, HENDLA ELLENBOGEN was born at Warszawa (21/sept/1918).
She had (year 1938) a "delicatesen" shop, at Ogrodowa 2 , street, and Lived
at Solna 10, street, with my gparents: SRUL MOISZE ELLENBOGEN
and MALKA GOPFELD.
My uncles was JOEL, HERZEL, FAIGUE and NEJU ELLENBOGEN and
DINA, HASKEL, FAIGUE and MOISHE GOPFELD.

My ggparent: HASKEL ELLENBOGEN, lived at Franciskanska 21, street.

I look for information about this persons.
Also I am trying to find census records, and property records for this time
frame.


Mauricio Olsztajn
Contributor 176577
mauricio@margabijou.com.ar


Warszawa Research Group #Warsaw #Poland Fw: ELLENBOGEN of WARSZAWA #poland #warsaw

Mauricio Olsztajn <mauricio@...>
 

I am working on the ELLENBOGEN family of Warsawa.

My mother, HENDLA ELLENBOGEN was born at Warszawa (21/sept/1918).
She had (year 1938) a "delicatesen" shop, at Ogrodowa 2 , street, and Lived
at Solna 10, street, with my gparents: SRUL MOISZE ELLENBOGEN
and MALKA GOPFELD.
My uncles was JOEL, HERZEL, FAIGUE and NEJU ELLENBOGEN and
DINA, HASKEL, FAIGUE and MOISHE GOPFELD.

My ggparent: HASKEL ELLENBOGEN, lived at Franciskanska 21, street.

I look for information about this persons.
Also I am trying to find census records, and property records for this time
frame.


Mauricio Olsztajn
Contributor 176577
mauricio@margabijou.com.ar


Searching: GNISHER & FINKLESTEIN families #lithuania

Michael Trapunsky <trapunsky@...>
 

Hi all,

Earlier I posted a search for my KANTOR family >from Paberze and Vilna.

I have some more information on one of the families in case it helps.

Hirsch KANTOR (dates unknown) married Chana (maiden name unknown) and they
had: Hertz, Meir, Tzippy and Fruma.

Fruma's children were:
1- Hertzig GNISHER - who had a son Hirsch

2- Meir Henoch FINKLESTEIN - married Shaina (maiden name unknown) and had:
Simcha Gemida, Kayla, Esther, Chana, Hirsch & Matei

3- Malkah

4- Sarah

Given that I have 2 different surnames for Fruma's sons, I'm not sure what
Malkah's and Sarah's surname was. I guess it's possible that Fruma had 2
husbands or that one of the sons changed their surname.

I would love to hear back >from anyone who might possibly know of a
connection or anything at all about these families.

Thank you very much,


Michael Trapunsky
Queens, New York, USA
trapunsky@earthlink.net

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Searching: GNISHER & FINKLESTEIN families #lithuania

Michael Trapunsky <trapunsky@...>
 

Hi all,

Earlier I posted a search for my KANTOR family >from Paberze and Vilna.

I have some more information on one of the families in case it helps.

Hirsch KANTOR (dates unknown) married Chana (maiden name unknown) and they
had: Hertz, Meir, Tzippy and Fruma.

Fruma's children were:
1- Hertzig GNISHER - who had a son Hirsch

2- Meir Henoch FINKLESTEIN - married Shaina (maiden name unknown) and had:
Simcha Gemida, Kayla, Esther, Chana, Hirsch & Matei

3- Malkah

4- Sarah

Given that I have 2 different surnames for Fruma's sons, I'm not sure what
Malkah's and Sarah's surname was. I guess it's possible that Fruma had 2
husbands or that one of the sons changed their surname.

I would love to hear back >from anyone who might possibly know of a
connection or anything at all about these families.

Thank you very much,


Michael Trapunsky
Queens, New York, USA
trapunsky@earthlink.net

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


Jihlava/Iglau #austria-czech

Jan Hellmann <jan@...>
 

If you are interested in Jihlava/Iglau. there is a very good Czech site with
lot of Jewish information on the following address
http://www.regionalist.cz/vilimek/

Jan O. Hellmann/Denmark


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Jihlava/Iglau #austria-czech

Jan Hellmann <jan@...>
 

If you are interested in Jihlava/Iglau. there is a very good Czech site with
lot of Jewish information on the following address
http://www.regionalist.cz/vilimek/

Jan O. Hellmann/Denmark


ATLAS #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

Did someone post me a private email about ATLAS. I was checking my "spam"
emails and I deleted it by mistake.

If you did can you email me again.

Thank you

--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov,
Belarus)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ATLAS #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

Did someone post me a private email about ATLAS. I was checking my "spam"
emails and I deleted it by mistake.

If you did can you email me again.

Thank you

--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov,
Belarus)


Re: Schlissel Challah #general

N.Landau@...
 

It does connect with your name (Schlussel=key)in that there is apparently a
custom to bake a key into a challah after Pesach or Passover.

There seem to be various explanations but, for instance, see
http://felist.com/archive/lit.kehilasmy/200404/15203848.text

According to this there is even a Shabbos Shlissulach.

Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov,
Belarus)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Schlissel Challah #general

N.Landau@...
 

It does connect with your name (Schlussel=key)in that there is apparently a
custom to bake a key into a challah after Pesach or Passover.

There seem to be various explanations but, for instance, see
http://felist.com/archive/lit.kehilasmy/200404/15203848.text

According to this there is even a Shabbos Shlissulach.

Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov,
Belarus)