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Re: Le droit du Seigneur #general

Roger Lustig <julierog@...>
 

It's actually very difficult to find evidence of the existence of this
custom *anywhere*, especially in the last 7 or 8 centuries. Where it
did exist, it was generally an excuse for levying fines or taxes
"instead".

But it makes for a great plot device in plays and operas!

Roger Lustig
Princeton, NJ
researching Upper Silesia, where liquor taxes were far more profitable

Flashman Morochnick wrote:
There is a tale told in my family of the deflowerment of one of my

direct ancestors by the local noble at the turn of the 20th century.
Would anyone know if Le droit du Seigneur or priviliege of the first
night was actually practiced in the Russian Empire on Jewish brides
during the late 19th, early 20th century?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Le droit du Seigneur #general

Roger Lustig <julierog@...>
 

It's actually very difficult to find evidence of the existence of this
custom *anywhere*, especially in the last 7 or 8 centuries. Where it
did exist, it was generally an excuse for levying fines or taxes
"instead".

But it makes for a great plot device in plays and operas!

Roger Lustig
Princeton, NJ
researching Upper Silesia, where liquor taxes were far more profitable

Flashman Morochnick wrote:
There is a tale told in my family of the deflowerment of one of my

direct ancestors by the local noble at the turn of the 20th century.
Would anyone know if Le droit du Seigneur or priviliege of the first
night was actually practiced in the Russian Empire on Jewish brides
during the late 19th, early 20th century?


North Bend newspaper question #general

Sara Lynns
 

I emailed "Trudy" privately
North Bend, OR is a very small town
linked closely to Coos Bay, also small

you gotta live here to know these little details

how it helps Trudy

Jackie Lerner-Aderman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen North Bend newspaper question #general

Sara Lynns
 

I emailed "Trudy" privately
North Bend, OR is a very small town
linked closely to Coos Bay, also small

you gotta live here to know these little details

how it helps Trudy

Jackie Lerner-Aderman


Re: Uniforms #general

Burt Hecht <burt1933@...>
 

Hi genners,
Mark,

I remembered when I saw a photo of a grand-uncle in a unidentified uniform
and posted with no success. In my case it was so non-descript It could have
been the uniform of a waiter in a restaurant. The only difference was the
insignia on the hat. This search, not yet complete, led me to search some
web sites and there are several experts in research.

This is one:

http://www.austro-hungarian-army.co.uk/infunif.htm
and another >from a commercial site

Possibly either may hold the answer you seek.

I have found that the google search can reveal many pictorials that can
help make distinguishing points. Good luck.

Burt Hecht

Searching: HECHT - Tuszyn, Gombin, Warsawa, Glasgow, Montreal;
ETTINGER - Tarnow, Gombin; LEW/LEFF - Lomza, Suwalki, NYC;
SANDOWSKY/SANDOFSKY - Suwalki, Perhaps Bialystok

MODERATOR NOTE: This is a reply to Mark's message asking for identification of
a man in uniform, placed on ViewMate. We post this reply since it contains
general information.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Uniforms #general

Burt Hecht <burt1933@...>
 

Hi genners,
Mark,

I remembered when I saw a photo of a grand-uncle in a unidentified uniform
and posted with no success. In my case it was so non-descript It could have
been the uniform of a waiter in a restaurant. The only difference was the
insignia on the hat. This search, not yet complete, led me to search some
web sites and there are several experts in research.

This is one:

http://www.austro-hungarian-army.co.uk/infunif.htm
and another >from a commercial site

Possibly either may hold the answer you seek.

I have found that the google search can reveal many pictorials that can
help make distinguishing points. Good luck.

Burt Hecht

Searching: HECHT - Tuszyn, Gombin, Warsawa, Glasgow, Montreal;
ETTINGER - Tarnow, Gombin; LEW/LEFF - Lomza, Suwalki, NYC;
SANDOWSKY/SANDOFSKY - Suwalki, Perhaps Bialystok

MODERATOR NOTE: This is a reply to Mark's message asking for identification of
a man in uniform, placed on ViewMate. We post this reply since it contains
general information.


TANNENBAUM - FEUERLICHT, NYC? #hungary

Marian Brown
 

Dear All,

I am looking for information about the descendants of Rabbi
Adolph/Abraham TANNENBAUM (cir 1841-1899) and his wife Lisette HOLSTEIN
(b1832? - ). Adolph married family members and was connected to
Congregation Chasam Sopher. In 1899 he lived at 9 Clinton Street,
across the street >from the synagogue.

Recently, I found that Adolph & Lisette had a son, Simon TANNENBAUM, a
physician. There is a Simon TANNENBAUM in 1920 in Philadelphia who was
Superintendent of the Jewish Hospital and Home for the Aged. His wife
was Sarah and the children were Adolf, , Stella, and Louise.

Also, Adolph & Lisette may have had a daughter, Rosa TANNENBAUM, married
to Max FEUERLICHT and they had a daughter Ethel, b 1873 and a son,
Adolph A., b 1901.

Is this familiar to anyone?

Thanks,

Marian Brown
Cincinnati, OH

Moderator: Please contact Marian off-list if you have info.


Hungary SIG #Hungary TANNENBAUM - FEUERLICHT, NYC? #hungary

Marian Brown
 

Dear All,

I am looking for information about the descendants of Rabbi
Adolph/Abraham TANNENBAUM (cir 1841-1899) and his wife Lisette HOLSTEIN
(b1832? - ). Adolph married family members and was connected to
Congregation Chasam Sopher. In 1899 he lived at 9 Clinton Street,
across the street >from the synagogue.

Recently, I found that Adolph & Lisette had a son, Simon TANNENBAUM, a
physician. There is a Simon TANNENBAUM in 1920 in Philadelphia who was
Superintendent of the Jewish Hospital and Home for the Aged. His wife
was Sarah and the children were Adolf, , Stella, and Louise.

Also, Adolph & Lisette may have had a daughter, Rosa TANNENBAUM, married
to Max FEUERLICHT and they had a daughter Ethel, b 1873 and a son,
Adolph A., b 1901.

Is this familiar to anyone?

Thanks,

Marian Brown
Cincinnati, OH

Moderator: Please contact Marian off-list if you have info.


Budapest 1950's sources #hungary

Omri Arnon <omri@...>
 

Dear group,

I wonder if there are any information sources you know about in Hungary,
specifically in Budapest, that can help me trace a relative whose details I
found in the Neveklarsfeld survivors list. I am trying to find the living
relatives of Erdos Gabor, son of Dr. Erdos Josef (son of Erdos Ignacz and
Reinitz Rosa) and Margit Barcza. Finding his descendants would help me
immensely in solving a difficult piece in the puzzle. His record details
are:
Record Number 1062637
Registrant's Family Name ERDOS
Registrant's First Name GABOR
Gender M
Date of Birth 1922
Place of Birth BUDAPEST
Mother's Family Name BARCA
Mother's First Name MARGIT
Address Street HORTHY MIKLOS
Address Number 35

Any help would be appreciated.

Omri Arnon
Israel

Moderator: Information about how to carry out this search will be of interest to H-SIG members.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Budapest 1950's sources #hungary

Omri Arnon <omri@...>
 

Dear group,

I wonder if there are any information sources you know about in Hungary,
specifically in Budapest, that can help me trace a relative whose details I
found in the Neveklarsfeld survivors list. I am trying to find the living
relatives of Erdos Gabor, son of Dr. Erdos Josef (son of Erdos Ignacz and
Reinitz Rosa) and Margit Barcza. Finding his descendants would help me
immensely in solving a difficult piece in the puzzle. His record details
are:
Record Number 1062637
Registrant's Family Name ERDOS
Registrant's First Name GABOR
Gender M
Date of Birth 1922
Place of Birth BUDAPEST
Mother's Family Name BARCA
Mother's First Name MARGIT
Address Street HORTHY MIKLOS
Address Number 35

Any help would be appreciated.

Omri Arnon
Israel

Moderator: Information about how to carry out this search will be of interest to H-SIG members.


Re: Jewish records in Catholic parishes #hungary

beaudreau@...
 

Dear Judy,
I noticed that you had Grossman in your family. I believe my
ancesters Mendel & Raisa (Rose) Grossman came >from the
county of Saros. I was wondering if we might have a family
connection. I know it was a huge family. My great-
grandmother, Dvora (Dora) Grossman was one of their
children. They came into this country sometime in the mid-
1880s. Most of our Grossman family are buried in a Hungarian
section of Mt. Hebron in NYC.

Thanks for any help.
Anne Beaudreau

Moderator: Please respond off-list.


Thank you #hungary

עמירה משיח <amira_m@...>
 

Thank you all for the translation.

Amira Mashiah.


Hungary SIG #Hungary re:Jewish records in Catholic parishes #hungary

beaudreau@...
 

Dear Judy,
I noticed that you had Grossman in your family. I believe my
ancesters Mendel & Raisa (Rose) Grossman came >from the
county of Saros. I was wondering if we might have a family
connection. I know it was a huge family. My great-
grandmother, Dvora (Dora) Grossman was one of their
children. They came into this country sometime in the mid-
1880s. Most of our Grossman family are buried in a Hungarian
section of Mt. Hebron in NYC.

Thanks for any help.
Anne Beaudreau

Moderator: Please respond off-list.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Thank you #hungary

עמירה משיח <amira_m@...>
 

Thank you all for the translation.

Amira Mashiah.


Hungarian Town #hungary

Adiva Bloch
 

I found a ship record that I am trying to decide if it is for the
person I am looking for. It lists Homonna as the place he came >from in
Hungary. Can someone please direct me as to where this place is?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Adiva
DEUTSCH - Hungary, NY, Philadelphia
REICHARD - Hungary, NY, Philadelphia
SCHULMAN - Poland/Russia, Chicago

Moderator: Homonna, Hungary, is now Humenne, Slovak Republic.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Hungarian Town #hungary

Adiva Bloch
 

I found a ship record that I am trying to decide if it is for the
person I am looking for. It lists Homonna as the place he came >from in
Hungary. Can someone please direct me as to where this place is?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Adiva
DEUTSCH - Hungary, NY, Philadelphia
REICHARD - Hungary, NY, Philadelphia
SCHULMAN - Poland/Russia, Chicago

Moderator: Homonna, Hungary, is now Humenne, Slovak Republic.


Re: tombstone protection #hungary

Gábor Hirsch <g_hirsch@...>
 

I presume that every tombstone sculptor should be able to recommend proper
material, but I believe it is less the job of a do it yoursever,
preservation should be done by a professional who knows about stone mareial
as well as suitable chemicals.

Best regards
Gabor Hirsch

--- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
Von: alex p miller <alex.miller@...>
An: "H-SIG" <h-sig@...>
Betreff: [h-sig] tombstone protection
Datum: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 06:25:44 -0500

Hello friends,

A few years ago we had an exchange regarding chemical protection for
tombstones. The opinions were all negative, saying that any chemical
contact will just further deteriorate the fragile stone

I just came across a stone in a small village cemetery in Szabolcs county
dating back to 1892. It has a lacquer-like, transparent coating similar
to something I've seen on the stones of famous rabbis in the indoor
burial(ohel?) in Nyiiregyhaza.

This 1892 stone is in unbelievable shape (see viewmate #-VM7242) at:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html

How can we find out about this? What is it, how can it be purchased,
applied, is someone doing this kind of work?

Best Regards,

Alex Miller, Chester CO. PA
alex.miller@ juno.com


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: tombstone protection #hungary

Gábor Hirsch <g_hirsch@...>
 

I presume that every tombstone sculptor should be able to recommend proper
material, but I believe it is less the job of a do it yoursever,
preservation should be done by a professional who knows about stone mareial
as well as suitable chemicals.

Best regards
Gabor Hirsch

--- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
Von: alex p miller <alex.miller@...>
An: "H-SIG" <h-sig@...>
Betreff: [h-sig] tombstone protection
Datum: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 06:25:44 -0500

Hello friends,

A few years ago we had an exchange regarding chemical protection for
tombstones. The opinions were all negative, saying that any chemical
contact will just further deteriorate the fragile stone

I just came across a stone in a small village cemetery in Szabolcs county
dating back to 1892. It has a lacquer-like, transparent coating similar
to something I've seen on the stones of famous rabbis in the indoor
burial(ohel?) in Nyiiregyhaza.

This 1892 stone is in unbelievable shape (see viewmate #-VM7242) at:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html

How can we find out about this? What is it, how can it be purchased,
applied, is someone doing this kind of work?

Best Regards,

Alex Miller, Chester CO. PA
alex.miller@ juno.com


*re: LDS films of German non-Aryan Census 1939 #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Hello Genners,

Jonathan found a goldmine for those researching German ancestry. The Mormons have almost 60 German locality entries of the 1939 minority census - and 132 films, which basically contained almost Jews only.

The index of localities can be found in film # 1742516. Sudetenland is included.

The way to find those records is either to use the FHL keyword search feature with the words " Deutschland Reichssippenamt " or the link below:

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=authordetails&authorno=389649&name=Deutschland%2E+Reichssippenamt%2C+null&columns=*,0,0

Good hunt
Tom

At 00:00 -0600 18.12.2005, <Jonathan.Wreschner@...> wrote:
Subject: LDS films of German non-Aryan Census 1939
From: "Wreschner, Jonathan" <Jonathan.Wreschner@...>
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 14:06:03 +0200

Apparently, the Nazis took a census in 1939 of non-Aryans living in Germany, and this has been filmed by the Mormons. The census information includes all household members with place and date of birth.

Jonathan Wreschner
Efrat, Israel
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Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@...>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Re: Hungarian Town #hungary

Lynn Saul <lynnsaul@...>
 

Homonna (Humenne today in Slovakia) is in the trans-Carpathia region of what
was northern Hungary--Zemplen Megye--but is now in Slovakia.
I have family connections there also. There is some excellent shtetl
material online. Start with the history at
http://ca.geocities.com/spirope/zemplen2.txt
and then go on to the JewishGen/Shetllinks website.
Lynn Saul
Tucson AZ
Researching FRIEDMAN, CZINNER, PERLSTEIN, SCHOENBERGER, HOLLOS,
Satoraljaujhely, Porosko, Kolosvar, Cegled, Budapest

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adiva Bloch" <asb4205@...>
To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 6:58 AM
Subject: [h-sig] Hungarian Town


I found a ship record that I am trying to decide if it is for the
person I am looking for. It lists Homonna as the place he came >from in
Hungary. Can someone please direct me as to where this place is?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Adiva
DEUTSCH - Hungary, NY, Philadelphia
REICHARD - Hungary, NY, Philadelphia
SCHULMAN - Poland/Russia, Chicago

Moderator: Homonna, Hungary, is now Humenne, Slovak Republic.