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Horovitz/Siedlce #general

shirley.collier@btinternet.com <shirley.collier@...>
 

I really appreciate all the information I have
received on Horovitz and Siedlce and I would like to
thank everyone for the interest they have shown in my
enquiry.

Thank you all very much.

Shirley Collier
usually East of London UK
In Shoham Israel until 2nd March

Researching:
BIERMAN, Lublin
HARRIS, Sieradz
MUSLIN, Luscow
ROZAINSKY/WAPNIARZ- Lomza
TILLES/TRINKENREICH - Tarnow/Krakow


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Horovitz/Siedlce #general

shirley.collier@btinternet.com <shirley.collier@...>
 

I really appreciate all the information I have
received on Horovitz and Siedlce and I would like to
thank everyone for the interest they have shown in my
enquiry.

Thank you all very much.

Shirley Collier
usually East of London UK
In Shoham Israel until 2nd March

Researching:
BIERMAN, Lublin
HARRIS, Sieradz
MUSLIN, Luscow
ROZAINSKY/WAPNIARZ- Lomza
TILLES/TRINKENREICH - Tarnow/Krakow


Re: American Soldier's Grave - Grynberg Ike and the town of Rypin, Poland #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins,

Sara Reichman asked:
I am looking for any information about Abraham (Ike) GREENBERG(or
GRUNBERG) >from Ripyn Poland. He came to USA and was killed as a USA
soldier in combat during W.W.2. He was buried in USA. I could not find
his grave in Arlington while visiting the cemetery...

The landsmanschaft >from the town of Rypin, Poland, the Rypiner
Benevolent Association, is still hanging on, although barely, in the U.S.
It merged with the Dobrzyner (Doresh Tov Dobrzynsker) Society >from the
adjacent town of Golub-Dobrzyn to form the Dobrzyn-Rypin Benevolent
Association in 1987, and we have about 40 dues-paying members and about 10
members who attend the one meeting that we have yearly in New York City.
I serve as the president, the recording secretary, and the cemetery
chairman -- I do so much not because I have any unusual energy level or
talents, but because I'm well more than 20 years younger than almost all
of the other members.

There does not appear to be a lot of genealogical research going on for
these two towns. I have the cemetery records for both the Rypiner and the
Dobrzyner societies (pre- and post-merger), so if anybody has questions
that may be answered >from these records, please let me know.

Unfortunately, Abraham/Ike Greenberg/Grynberg is not buried in any of
the plots associated with this landsmanschaft.

Ira
Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: American Soldier's Grave - Grynberg Ike and the town of Rypin, Poland #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins,

Sara Reichman asked:
I am looking for any information about Abraham (Ike) GREENBERG(or
GRUNBERG) >from Ripyn Poland. He came to USA and was killed as a USA
soldier in combat during W.W.2. He was buried in USA. I could not find
his grave in Arlington while visiting the cemetery...

The landsmanschaft >from the town of Rypin, Poland, the Rypiner
Benevolent Association, is still hanging on, although barely, in the U.S.
It merged with the Dobrzyner (Doresh Tov Dobrzynsker) Society >from the
adjacent town of Golub-Dobrzyn to form the Dobrzyn-Rypin Benevolent
Association in 1987, and we have about 40 dues-paying members and about 10
members who attend the one meeting that we have yearly in New York City.
I serve as the president, the recording secretary, and the cemetery
chairman -- I do so much not because I have any unusual energy level or
talents, but because I'm well more than 20 years younger than almost all
of the other members.

There does not appear to be a lot of genealogical research going on for
these two towns. I have the cemetery records for both the Rypiner and the
Dobrzyner societies (pre- and post-merger), so if anybody has questions
that may be answered >from these records, please let me know.

Unfortunately, Abraham/Ike Greenberg/Grynberg is not buried in any of
the plots associated with this landsmanschaft.

Ira
Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


Re: Cemetery in Cotopaxi, CO #general

Marc Raizman <mraizman@...>
 

Dear Genners: I happen to know a little about the history of Jews in
Cotopaxi, Colorado.
1 - The mine was owned by a Sephardic Jew but when he recruited Jews >from
Eastern Europe to come to Colorado, he didn't tell them that he was looking
for folks to work in his mine. It seems that those recruited assumed they
would be working in agriculture.
2 - There is no Jewish cemetery in Cotopaxi. Those Jews who died during
their Cotopaxi - about three or four -were buried in a corner of the local
cemetery. I'm told that these tombstones do not identify the dead by name
but makes reference that they were Russian Jews.
3 - When the Cotopaxi Jews called it quits, they moved to west side of
Denver, along Colfax street. For many years, there was a small Jewish community
in the area, including a store that sold kosher food and meat. I live in
Boulder, CO, but haven't been down in that area for years.
The Jewish community today is centered around south of Denver and
nearby communities.
Best, Marc Raizman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Cemetery in Cotopaxi, CO #general

Marc Raizman <mraizman@...>
 

Dear Genners: I happen to know a little about the history of Jews in
Cotopaxi, Colorado.
1 - The mine was owned by a Sephardic Jew but when he recruited Jews >from
Eastern Europe to come to Colorado, he didn't tell them that he was looking
for folks to work in his mine. It seems that those recruited assumed they
would be working in agriculture.
2 - There is no Jewish cemetery in Cotopaxi. Those Jews who died during
their Cotopaxi - about three or four -were buried in a corner of the local
cemetery. I'm told that these tombstones do not identify the dead by name
but makes reference that they were Russian Jews.
3 - When the Cotopaxi Jews called it quits, they moved to west side of
Denver, along Colfax street. For many years, there was a small Jewish community
in the area, including a store that sold kosher food and meat. I live in
Boulder, CO, but haven't been down in that area for years.
The Jewish community today is centered around south of Denver and
nearby communities.
Best, Marc Raizman


researcher Eleanor LIND #general

Alan Steinfeld <alansteinfeld@...>
 

Would research Eleanor Lind please contact me privately regarding Lipowica?

Thanks,

Alan Steinfeld
Scarsdale, NY
alansteinfeld@optonline.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen researcher Eleanor LIND #general

Alan Steinfeld <alansteinfeld@...>
 

Would research Eleanor Lind please contact me privately regarding Lipowica?

Thanks,

Alan Steinfeld
Scarsdale, NY
alansteinfeld@optonline.net


Cotopaxi - History of Russian Jews in Colorado #general

Barbara Zimmer <bravo.zulu@...>
 

For an extensive history of Cotopaxi and the Jewish attempts at agriculture in
the area,

Go to http://tinyurl.com/p8lz8

This source is based on an unpublished dissertation, with additional later
comments by the descendant of one of the principals in the scheme to bring
Russian Jews to Colorado. [Note: Several pages may be missing >from this
manuscript, but the story is still worth reading.]

Barbara Zimmer
Virginia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Cotopaxi - History of Russian Jews in Colorado #general

Barbara Zimmer <bravo.zulu@...>
 

For an extensive history of Cotopaxi and the Jewish attempts at agriculture in
the area,

Go to http://tinyurl.com/p8lz8

This source is based on an unpublished dissertation, with additional later
comments by the descendant of one of the principals in the scheme to bring
Russian Jews to Colorado. [Note: Several pages may be missing >from this
manuscript, but the story is still worth reading.]

Barbara Zimmer
Virginia


Cotopaxi, Colorado #general

sangreenb@...
 

Hi: To answer the question on Cotopaxi, Colorado - I was there at the
Cotopaxi, cemetery and saw the three children's graves. The cemetery is high on a
hill top above the local elementary school. The children's graves are marked
by a copper plaque which reads, "Russian Jews Graves".

To read up more on the Jews who came to Cotopaxi look on the following
website:
www.jewishgen.org/jgs-colorado (http://www.jewishgen.org/jgs-colorado) web
page.

Sandra Greenberg
JGSCO Librarian
Denver, CO
_sangreenb@aol.com_ (mailto:sangreenb@aol.com)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Cotopaxi, Colorado #general

sangreenb@...
 

Hi: To answer the question on Cotopaxi, Colorado - I was there at the
Cotopaxi, cemetery and saw the three children's graves. The cemetery is high on a
hill top above the local elementary school. The children's graves are marked
by a copper plaque which reads, "Russian Jews Graves".

To read up more on the Jews who came to Cotopaxi look on the following
website:
www.jewishgen.org/jgs-colorado (http://www.jewishgen.org/jgs-colorado) web
page.

Sandra Greenberg
JGSCO Librarian
Denver, CO
_sangreenb@aol.com_ (mailto:sangreenb@aol.com)


Female first name(s) of "Katrina"/"Rina" #hungary

HeyJudy123@...
 

George FARKAS asks about the use of the first name(s) "Katrina" and/ or
"Rina" for Hungarian Jewish women, as well as any Hebrew equivalents.

I believe that "Katie" was a very popular name for Jewish women in Hungary,
and "Katie" easily could be a nickname for "Katrina."

We had several women named "Katie" on the Hungarian side of my mother's
family.

All of them bore the Hebrew/ Yiddish name of "Gittie" (or "Gittel") in
addition.

Interestingly, some of these women changed their first names >from "Katie" to
"Gisella," presumably to modernize, and also in what presumably is an
allusion to the Hebrew/ Yiddish name of "Gittie."

Judy SEGAL
New York City USA

BAYERN, HERSKOVITS (varied spellings), ROSENBERG/ ROZENBERG, HABER, KOHN,
from "Huncovce" (a/k/a "Hunfalu," "Hunsdorf"), "Kosice" (a/k/a "Kassa,"
"Kashau"), Budapest, Manhattan, Brooklyn, The Bronx and Ohio, specifically,
Cleveland.


Re: Hajduboszormeny and names... #hungary

Eloedfamily@...
 

I was recently told, that Maria Theresa herself of German descent, ordered
all Jews in Austro-Hungary to adopt German last names, and thereby swell the
German people's numbers in the Monarchy. This was some time after the Turks
been chased out of Hungary, and Maria Theresa helped re populate Hungary.
Anyone with any detail on this? When and how was this done in reality? Would
Hungarian Jews with Hungarian names be also forced to such changes? Like the
equivalent of KLEIN in Hungarian would be KIS, GROSS would have been NAGY, WOLF
from FARKAS and so on.
Thanks,

Leslie Eloed
Covina, California


In a message dated 2/27/2006 3:06:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
h-sig@ecologicaltech.com writes:
KLEIN is probably one of the most common hungarian jewish surnames, with one
or more families in every town where jews lived. (in my case, i am related
to another KLEIN family, by marriage only, >from the same town of bekescsaba,
who were not related.)

among other theories, it probably originated as a version of "hakohen", so
you might find that your KLEIN family are kohanim.


....... tom klein, toronto

"bruce karpati" <bkarpati@hotmail.com> wrote:

A large part of my family were Kleins, who came >from Hajduboszormeny. My
great great grandfather was Kalman David Klein (1852-1931). His
grandfather, Kalman came >from Ujfeherto, and had a son Samuel, who had
Kalman David. Kalman David's wife was also a Klein, Hany Klein and they had
six kids: Samuel, Ignac, Ida, Ethel, Joseph and Hendrus. The Kleins were
also related to the Goldsteins. I would like to find out more about the
Jews in Hajdoboszormeny, and about the Kleins >from Hajudoboszormeny. Any
information would be great. Thank you.

Bruce Karpati


Hungary SIG #Hungary Female first name(s) of "Katrina"/"Rina" #hungary

HeyJudy123@...
 

George FARKAS asks about the use of the first name(s) "Katrina" and/ or
"Rina" for Hungarian Jewish women, as well as any Hebrew equivalents.

I believe that "Katie" was a very popular name for Jewish women in Hungary,
and "Katie" easily could be a nickname for "Katrina."

We had several women named "Katie" on the Hungarian side of my mother's
family.

All of them bore the Hebrew/ Yiddish name of "Gittie" (or "Gittel") in
addition.

Interestingly, some of these women changed their first names >from "Katie" to
"Gisella," presumably to modernize, and also in what presumably is an
allusion to the Hebrew/ Yiddish name of "Gittie."

Judy SEGAL
New York City USA

BAYERN, HERSKOVITS (varied spellings), ROSENBERG/ ROZENBERG, HABER, KOHN,
from "Huncovce" (a/k/a "Hunfalu," "Hunsdorf"), "Kosice" (a/k/a "Kassa,"
"Kashau"), Budapest, Manhattan, Brooklyn, The Bronx and Ohio, specifically,
Cleveland.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Hajduboszormeny and names... #hungary

Eloedfamily@...
 

I was recently told, that Maria Theresa herself of German descent, ordered
all Jews in Austro-Hungary to adopt German last names, and thereby swell the
German people's numbers in the Monarchy. This was some time after the Turks
been chased out of Hungary, and Maria Theresa helped re populate Hungary.
Anyone with any detail on this? When and how was this done in reality? Would
Hungarian Jews with Hungarian names be also forced to such changes? Like the
equivalent of KLEIN in Hungarian would be KIS, GROSS would have been NAGY, WOLF
from FARKAS and so on.
Thanks,

Leslie Eloed
Covina, California


In a message dated 2/27/2006 3:06:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
h-sig@ecologicaltech.com writes:
KLEIN is probably one of the most common hungarian jewish surnames, with one
or more families in every town where jews lived. (in my case, i am related
to another KLEIN family, by marriage only, >from the same town of bekescsaba,
who were not related.)

among other theories, it probably originated as a version of "hakohen", so
you might find that your KLEIN family are kohanim.


....... tom klein, toronto

"bruce karpati" <bkarpati@hotmail.com> wrote:

A large part of my family were Kleins, who came >from Hajduboszormeny. My
great great grandfather was Kalman David Klein (1852-1931). His
grandfather, Kalman came >from Ujfeherto, and had a son Samuel, who had
Kalman David. Kalman David's wife was also a Klein, Hany Klein and they had
six kids: Samuel, Ignac, Ida, Ethel, Joseph and Hendrus. The Kleins were
also related to the Goldsteins. I would like to find out more about the
Jews in Hajdoboszormeny, and about the Kleins >from Hajudoboszormeny. Any
information would be great. Thank you.

Bruce Karpati


the name Katarina #hungary

Henry Wellisch <henry.kelwel@...>
 

Hi:
My gggrand mother's first name was KATARINA and she was born around
1790 in Rajka (Ragendorf), which is in western Hungary. In some
documents she is also referred to as KATI, in others as KATALIN. The
1768 Hungarian Jewish census has been preserved and it includes the
name of the head of household as well as the first name of the spouse.
I have copied several pages >from the area named above and there are a
number of CATHARINAS listed.
Henry Wellisch
Toronto


Re: Kupferstein/Kardos #hungary

Patricia J Weisshaus <patjw28@...>
 

To all who have responded to this inquiry about divorce, let me pose this
question:

If this was a name change fron Kupferstein to Kardos, then why did Wilma
(Vilma) in 1915 refer to her father, Herman Kupferstein as her contact in
Hungary, and Ernest, her brother, in 1922 refer to his mother, W. Kardos,
as his contact. these were both taken >from passenger manifests.

In 1922 when Ernest came to this country he went to the home of his
brother-in-law Jozsef Fodor. Living in Joseph's household in 1930 is Fannie
Cooperstein, mother-in-law.

Would one child and the mother keep the surname Kupferstein(Cooperstein) ,
but the brother keep the other Kardos?

I don't think so, but what is your opinion now?

They are definitely sister and brother because Ernest refers to Vilma as
his sister.

Thanks for assisting me.

Pat
Exeter, NH


Hungary SIG #Hungary the name Katarina #hungary

Henry Wellisch <henry.kelwel@...>
 

Hi:
My gggrand mother's first name was KATARINA and she was born around
1790 in Rajka (Ragendorf), which is in western Hungary. In some
documents she is also referred to as KATI, in others as KATALIN. The
1768 Hungarian Jewish census has been preserved and it includes the
name of the head of household as well as the first name of the spouse.
I have copied several pages >from the area named above and there are a
number of CATHARINAS listed.
Henry Wellisch
Toronto


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Kupferstein/Kardos #hungary

Patricia J Weisshaus <patjw28@...>
 

To all who have responded to this inquiry about divorce, let me pose this
question:

If this was a name change fron Kupferstein to Kardos, then why did Wilma
(Vilma) in 1915 refer to her father, Herman Kupferstein as her contact in
Hungary, and Ernest, her brother, in 1922 refer to his mother, W. Kardos,
as his contact. these were both taken >from passenger manifests.

In 1922 when Ernest came to this country he went to the home of his
brother-in-law Jozsef Fodor. Living in Joseph's household in 1930 is Fannie
Cooperstein, mother-in-law.

Would one child and the mother keep the surname Kupferstein(Cooperstein) ,
but the brother keep the other Kardos?

I don't think so, but what is your opinion now?

They are definitely sister and brother because Ernest refers to Vilma as
his sister.

Thanks for assisting me.

Pat
Exeter, NH