Date   

Convoy 6, 17 July 1942 - - #france

bik <kooshb9341@...>
 

"Pithiviers-Auschwitz 17 Juillet 1942, 6h15: Convoi 6 Camps de
Pithiviers et Beaune la Rolande"

http://www.crif.org/?page=articles_display/detail&aid=6968&artyd=8

Testimonies collected by Monique Novodorsqui-Deniau, Edition presented
and annotated by Kathy Hazan, Benoit Verny, Nadine Fresco Cercil Editions

--
Bernard Kouchel
kooshb9341@...


French SIG #France Convoy 6, 17 July 1942 - - #france

bik <kooshb9341@...>
 

"Pithiviers-Auschwitz 17 Juillet 1942, 6h15: Convoi 6 Camps de
Pithiviers et Beaune la Rolande"

http://www.crif.org/?page=articles_display/detail&aid=6968&artyd=8

Testimonies collected by Monique Novodorsqui-Deniau, Edition presented
and annotated by Kathy Hazan, Benoit Verny, Nadine Fresco Cercil Editions

--
Bernard Kouchel
kooshb9341@...


Re: FW: Guardian Unlimited: French state and SNCF guilty of collusion in deporting Jews #france

Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
 

At 16:42 +1000 11/07/06, Danielle Joffe wrote:
HI, Just wondering if anyone has seen this?
Regards,
Danielle
Australia (town ??)

Yes, indeed, everybody in France read or heard of this. But first,
you must be aware that SNCF may appeal and may win its case finally.
Secundly, you must know that all French Jews don't agree with that
trial, for different reasons. Thirdly, another trial on the same
subject is currently in hand in US, and Arno Klarsfeld, Serge
Klarsfeld's own son, is the advocate (defense attorney) for SNCF.
This is too a subject of dissent between Jews for obvious reasons.
--
Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky
Besancon (France)
and also
Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International JGS in Paris)
http://www.genealoj.org


French SIG #France Re: FW: Guardian Unlimited: French state and SNCF guilty of collusion in deporting Jews #france

Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
 

At 16:42 +1000 11/07/06, Danielle Joffe wrote:
HI, Just wondering if anyone has seen this?
Regards,
Danielle
Australia (town ??)

Yes, indeed, everybody in France read or heard of this. But first,
you must be aware that SNCF may appeal and may win its case finally.
Secundly, you must know that all French Jews don't agree with that
trial, for different reasons. Thirdly, another trial on the same
subject is currently in hand in US, and Arno Klarsfeld, Serge
Klarsfeld's own son, is the advocate (defense attorney) for SNCF.
This is too a subject of dissent between Jews for obvious reasons.
--
Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky
Besancon (France)
and also
Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International JGS in Paris)
http://www.genealoj.org


Re: Jews smuggled out of postwar Hungary #hungary

Gabriela Svatos
 

Just a small clarification....the Czech lands did not border with Hungary,
so it was probably the Slovaks who conficscated your mother's wedding ring.
Also, after the war, Czechoslovakia supplied Israel with quite a bit of
military arms and equipment. My cousin Eva Grunwald >from Zilina (who
survived Auschwitz) left Czechoslovakia with a shipment of tanks and settled
in Israel. There were many Czechoslovak jews who also left with these
shipments.

Regards,
Gabi

Gabriela Svatos
Richmond Hill, Ontario

E-mail: gsvatos@...
Skype: agawabooks
Business E-mail: bookstore@...
Business URL: www.agawa.com

From: "Katz, Itzik" <Itzik.Katz@...>
Reply-To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@...>
To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@...>
Subject: RE: [h-sig] Jews smuggled out of postwar Hungary
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2006 09:38:19 +0300

This subject is a very interesting one. An organization called in Hebrew
Ha'Bricha (the escape) operated in Hungary and smuggled many people out
of the country.

My late parents were among those who were smuggled out of Hungary in
1948 via Czechoslovakia. Before they crossed the border, the people who
accompanied them asked that they would give them al the money and
valuables that they had since if caught by the Czechs on the other side
their faith might be very bad. So they did as did all the other members
of the group. My mother had only kept her wedding ring in a match box
because she couldn't give it away.

After crossing the border they were searched by the Czechs and the
wedding ring was found and confiscated.

from Czechoslovakia they were moved to Vienna, Austria were various
organizations were supporting the refugees. Many Jewish people who
arrived there immigrated to the USA and others, like my parents,
immigrated to Israel. To get to Israel, my parents were moved to Bari,
Italy where they waited for a ship to take them. Eventually they got on
a ship called Gallila and arrived in Haifa on May 1949.

Isaac Katz
Israel

-----Original Message-----
From: gunclers@... [mailto:gunclers@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 5:06 PM
To: H-SIG
Subject: [h-sig] Jews smuggled out of postwar Hungary

My father, Laszlo (Laci) Gunczler z"l, was responsible for smuggling
groups of Jews out of Hungary until his arrest in 1949. I'm trying to
get
a clearer idea of how the remaining family network operated at the time,
so it would be helpful to hear about anyone who left the country that
way
through Satoraljaujhely into Czechoslovakia.
Many thanks--
Sam Guncler
NYC

researching GUNCZLER, HAUSMAN, ADAM(S), BUCHHALTER, ISAACS


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: Jews smuggled out of postwar Hungary #hungary

Gabriela Svatos
 

Just a small clarification....the Czech lands did not border with Hungary,
so it was probably the Slovaks who conficscated your mother's wedding ring.
Also, after the war, Czechoslovakia supplied Israel with quite a bit of
military arms and equipment. My cousin Eva Grunwald >from Zilina (who
survived Auschwitz) left Czechoslovakia with a shipment of tanks and settled
in Israel. There were many Czechoslovak jews who also left with these
shipments.

Regards,
Gabi

Gabriela Svatos
Richmond Hill, Ontario

E-mail: gsvatos@...
Skype: agawabooks
Business E-mail: bookstore@...
Business URL: www.agawa.com

From: "Katz, Itzik" <Itzik.Katz@...>
Reply-To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@...>
To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@...>
Subject: RE: [h-sig] Jews smuggled out of postwar Hungary
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2006 09:38:19 +0300

This subject is a very interesting one. An organization called in Hebrew
Ha'Bricha (the escape) operated in Hungary and smuggled many people out
of the country.

My late parents were among those who were smuggled out of Hungary in
1948 via Czechoslovakia. Before they crossed the border, the people who
accompanied them asked that they would give them al the money and
valuables that they had since if caught by the Czechs on the other side
their faith might be very bad. So they did as did all the other members
of the group. My mother had only kept her wedding ring in a match box
because she couldn't give it away.

After crossing the border they were searched by the Czechs and the
wedding ring was found and confiscated.

from Czechoslovakia they were moved to Vienna, Austria were various
organizations were supporting the refugees. Many Jewish people who
arrived there immigrated to the USA and others, like my parents,
immigrated to Israel. To get to Israel, my parents were moved to Bari,
Italy where they waited for a ship to take them. Eventually they got on
a ship called Gallila and arrived in Haifa on May 1949.

Isaac Katz
Israel

-----Original Message-----
From: gunclers@... [mailto:gunclers@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 5:06 PM
To: H-SIG
Subject: [h-sig] Jews smuggled out of postwar Hungary

My father, Laszlo (Laci) Gunczler z"l, was responsible for smuggling
groups of Jews out of Hungary until his arrest in 1949. I'm trying to
get
a clearer idea of how the remaining family network operated at the time,
so it would be helpful to hear about anyone who left the country that
way
through Satoraljaujhely into Czechoslovakia.
Many thanks--
Sam Guncler
NYC

researching GUNCZLER, HAUSMAN, ADAM(S), BUCHHALTER, ISAACS


Weinberger in NY #hungary

לאה גדליה <msleag@...>
 

Dear all
Thanks to Tom Klein's answer I learned that Gyoza=Victor [not =
Daniel].
So it was Daniel who died in WW1 and Victor who arrived in NY in 1913.I
looked for Victor in 1920 census and found him as a boarder in Manhattan
district 14 [all details matched -age ,year of immigration etc. I also =
found
him in WW1 draft registration ,all details matching [including town of
origin in Hungary-Banat] but this time in Bridgeport Fairfield county =
Conn.
So far so good. Searching the 1930 census ,there are only 2 Victor
Weinberger >from Hungary ; one in Brooklyn Kings but he arrived in 1921 =
and
spoke Yiddish [while the family spoke only Hungarian and German] and the
other in Detroit arrived in 1923. I also found nothing that fits in SSDI.
I have 2 question for the group; are there any lists for people who left =
the
USA back to Europe ? in the WW1 registration , answering to " do you =
claim
redemption" he wrote Ruptur- what did he mean by that?
Any more suggestions how to go further?
Thanks
Lea Haber Gedalia,Jerusalem


Re: Budapest City Archives Document Retrieval #hungary

Sam Lorber <laurelrest@...>
 

Dear Diane,
I contacted them by email. Go to http://www.bparchiv.hu/ then click on the
UK flag - if you don't understand Hungarian - the email link is there:
bfl@...

I received a response >from Bea Baros - her email is barosb@...
The first email was detailed about the rules for acquiring documents from
the archives. It took a couple of emails to explain what I wanted. I
wanted a birth record and had gotten the family address >from the 1900 city
directory at http://www.bparchiv.hu/cgi-bin/lakas/lakas.pl
The family address and the birth date were key for them to retrieve records=
.
They will photocopy the record and mail it to you free. Certified copies
are charged for.
I hope this helps.
Sam


From: Diane Jacobs <thegenie@...>
Reply-To: H-SIG <h-sig@...>
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2006 08:41:18 -0400
To: H-SIG <h-sig@...>
Subject: RE: [h-sig] Budapest City Archives Document Retrieval
=20
Dear Sam,
=20
How did you contact them by address? or by e-mail?
=20
Thanks.
Diane Jacobs
Somerset, NJ
=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Sam Lorber [mailto:laurelrest@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 7:24 AM
To: H-SIG
Subject: Re:[h-sig] Budapest City Archives Document Retrieval
=20
Jerry,
=20
I contacted the archive in April of this year and received a reply >from B=
ea
Baros very quickly. It took another 2+ months and two more emails to
finally get my g uncle's birth records. The simple, uncertified photocop=
y
was free. There is a charge if you want a certified copy and there are
disclosure rules that apply that were made clear in Ms. Baros' first e-ma=
il.
I would suggest patience.
Regards,
=20
Sam Lorber
Nashville, TN
=20
researching: LORBER Zborov, Hajd=FAn=E1n=E1s, Nyiregyhaza
=20
=20
=20
=20
=20
=20
Can someone please advise the best way to obtain documents >from the Budap=
est
City Archives? There are about 15 documents that I would like to obtain, =
and
emailing the archivist in English for the process and cost hasn't been ve=
ry
successful. I did make contact the first day or so that the archives came
online and asked for the process. The archivist replied in English asking
which documents I was interested in. I replied immediately, and did so ag=
ain
a few days later, but never received an answer. I assume that they are
simply overwhelmed.
=20
Thank you for whatever guidance you can offer.
=20
Jerry Zeisler
Leesburg, Virginia USA


Hungary SIG #Hungary Weinberger in NY #hungary

לאה גדליה <msleag@...>
 

Dear all
Thanks to Tom Klein's answer I learned that Gyoza=Victor [not =
Daniel].
So it was Daniel who died in WW1 and Victor who arrived in NY in 1913.I
looked for Victor in 1920 census and found him as a boarder in Manhattan
district 14 [all details matched -age ,year of immigration etc. I also =
found
him in WW1 draft registration ,all details matching [including town of
origin in Hungary-Banat] but this time in Bridgeport Fairfield county =
Conn.
So far so good. Searching the 1930 census ,there are only 2 Victor
Weinberger >from Hungary ; one in Brooklyn Kings but he arrived in 1921 =
and
spoke Yiddish [while the family spoke only Hungarian and German] and the
other in Detroit arrived in 1923. I also found nothing that fits in SSDI.
I have 2 question for the group; are there any lists for people who left =
the
USA back to Europe ? in the WW1 registration , answering to " do you =
claim
redemption" he wrote Ruptur- what did he mean by that?
Any more suggestions how to go further?
Thanks
Lea Haber Gedalia,Jerusalem


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Budapest City Archives Document Retrieval #hungary

Sam Lorber <laurelrest@...>
 

Dear Diane,
I contacted them by email. Go to http://www.bparchiv.hu/ then click on the
UK flag - if you don't understand Hungarian - the email link is there:
bfl@...

I received a response >from Bea Baros - her email is barosb@...
The first email was detailed about the rules for acquiring documents from
the archives. It took a couple of emails to explain what I wanted. I
wanted a birth record and had gotten the family address >from the 1900 city
directory at http://www.bparchiv.hu/cgi-bin/lakas/lakas.pl
The family address and the birth date were key for them to retrieve records=
.
They will photocopy the record and mail it to you free. Certified copies
are charged for.
I hope this helps.
Sam


From: Diane Jacobs <thegenie@...>
Reply-To: H-SIG <h-sig@...>
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2006 08:41:18 -0400
To: H-SIG <h-sig@...>
Subject: RE: [h-sig] Budapest City Archives Document Retrieval
=20
Dear Sam,
=20
How did you contact them by address? or by e-mail?
=20
Thanks.
Diane Jacobs
Somerset, NJ
=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Sam Lorber [mailto:laurelrest@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 7:24 AM
To: H-SIG
Subject: Re:[h-sig] Budapest City Archives Document Retrieval
=20
Jerry,
=20
I contacted the archive in April of this year and received a reply >from B=
ea
Baros very quickly. It took another 2+ months and two more emails to
finally get my g uncle's birth records. The simple, uncertified photocop=
y
was free. There is a charge if you want a certified copy and there are
disclosure rules that apply that were made clear in Ms. Baros' first e-ma=
il.
I would suggest patience.
Regards,
=20
Sam Lorber
Nashville, TN
=20
researching: LORBER Zborov, Hajd=FAn=E1n=E1s, Nyiregyhaza
=20
=20
=20
=20
=20
=20
Can someone please advise the best way to obtain documents >from the Budap=
est
City Archives? There are about 15 documents that I would like to obtain, =
and
emailing the archivist in English for the process and cost hasn't been ve=
ry
successful. I did make contact the first day or so that the archives came
online and asked for the process. The archivist replied in English asking
which documents I was interested in. I replied immediately, and did so ag=
ain
a few days later, but never received an answer. I assume that they are
simply overwhelmed.
=20
Thank you for whatever guidance you can offer.
=20
Jerry Zeisler
Leesburg, Virginia USA


Town or City in Hungary #hungary

rebeka
 

Hi to all

Does somebody know where is Gychanhzas in Hungary or if there is in
Romania now A ship record testify that my great-grandfather (Moldovan
Elisic(e) ) was resident there before to emigrate in America.
Thank you very much

Claudia Ionita
Bucharest -Romania


Re: Jews smuggled out of postwar Hungary #hungary

TBanyai78@...
 

In a message dated 7/9/2006 2:28:04 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
gunclers@... writes:
ISAACS

My Isaacs family is >from Satu Mare. Is there a possible family connection.
Please contact me privately for more details.

Jayne
Queens, NY
TBanyai78@...


MOLDOVAN Family #hungary

rebeka
 

Shalom to all veshavua tov

I found an information about an ship passenger >from hamburg to america (
Pennsylvania) in mars1909. His name was Elisic(e) MODOVAN. (45 y.o. ). And
His etnicity was Hungary,- Romanian . The record says that his origyn town
Was Gychanhzas but it seems this place don't exist. Does somebody have any
Idea about it or any relation with this family? In America or Hungary or
Romania. I think I just discover why the gran-grandfather of my mum haven't
The tomb here in Romania ... He emigrate in America ... I think this
Elisic(e) Modovan is our relative..
My main interest was to highlight the lost history of
My mum family throughout the generations . Unfortunately I could not find
Continuity ....maybe because of the both origin sources? Hungarian and
Romanian? Or because some of them left for America and disapear there?...
If somebody know about this story and this family please let us know about
Anything,.. You can write me in private at. ionidia@...


Kind Regards,
Claudia Ionita - Bucharest Romania


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Jews smuggled out of postwar Hungary #hungary

TBanyai78@...
 

In a message dated 7/9/2006 2:28:04 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
gunclers@... writes:
ISAACS

My Isaacs family is >from Satu Mare. Is there a possible family connection.
Please contact me privately for more details.

Jayne
Queens, NY
TBanyai78@...


Hungary SIG #Hungary MOLDOVAN Family #hungary

rebeka
 

Shalom to all veshavua tov

I found an information about an ship passenger >from hamburg to america (
Pennsylvania) in mars1909. His name was Elisic(e) MODOVAN. (45 y.o. ). And
His etnicity was Hungary,- Romanian . The record says that his origyn town
Was Gychanhzas but it seems this place don't exist. Does somebody have any
Idea about it or any relation with this family? In America or Hungary or
Romania. I think I just discover why the gran-grandfather of my mum haven't
The tomb here in Romania ... He emigrate in America ... I think this
Elisic(e) Modovan is our relative..
My main interest was to highlight the lost history of
My mum family throughout the generations . Unfortunately I could not find
Continuity ....maybe because of the both origin sources? Hungarian and
Romanian? Or because some of them left for America and disapear there?...
If somebody know about this story and this family please let us know about
Anything,.. You can write me in private at. ionidia@...


Kind Regards,
Claudia Ionita - Bucharest Romania


Hungary SIG #Hungary Town or City in Hungary #hungary

rebeka
 

Hi to all

Does somebody know where is Gychanhzas in Hungary or if there is in
Romania now A ship record testify that my great-grandfather (Moldovan
Elisic(e) ) was resident there before to emigrate in America.
Thank you very much

Claudia Ionita
Bucharest -Romania


Re: Researching Halevi, Friedman, Golden, Sighet #hungary

TBanyai78@...
 

In a message dated 7/9/2006 2:33:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
withywindle@... writes:
I am researching the Halevi
There is a local politician here in Queens by that name (Halevi). Don't
remember his first name or what his real "title" is but you could try Googling
the name and see if you can find out more about him....perhaps there's a
family connection.

Jayne
Queens, NY

Moderator: In the future, please include your full name.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Researching Halevi, Friedman, Golden, Sighet #hungary

TBanyai78@...
 

In a message dated 7/9/2006 2:33:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
withywindle@... writes:
I am researching the Halevi
There is a local politician here in Queens by that name (Halevi). Don't
remember his first name or what his real "title" is but you could try Googling
the name and see if you can find out more about him....perhaps there's a
family connection.

Jayne
Queens, NY

Moderator: In the future, please include your full name.


Gyozo as a name #hungary

peter bakos <pgbakos@...>
 

Gyozo, with a double accent on the first "o" is Victor.

Peter Bakos
Pensacola, presently


LATTERHAUS Olaszliszka-Lisk,Hungary #hungary

Edna Hoover
 

I have been working on a family history project for the past 5 years and
have been unable to locate any information whatsoever on
our great-grandfather's family >from Hungary. Nossen-Nutte "Nathan"
Latterhraus left Lisk, Hungary with his father, mother and older brother and
migrated to Palestine about 1888. He was married in Meah She'arim,
Jerusalem in 1897 and worked for the Singer Sewing Machine Company, the
Rishon Le-Tsiyyon Wine Company and the Ungarische Kollel in Jerusalem. He
received the title "Rabbi" >from Ha-Rav Kook before he came through Ellis
Island in 1923 at age 46. He returned to Israel with his wife in 1956 and
is buried in Tel Aviv. It seems he had family >from Hungary living in the
New York Area: MENDELSON in New York City and KLEIN in Westchester. Family
lore states that he was related to the famous R'Elimelech of Lezajsk.

1. Avraham Yitshak Or Avraham Ben Yitshak LATERHAUS/ LATTERHUS/LETTERHAUSE/
LETERHAUSE (b.Austria Hungary)
sp: Hannah (b.Bef 1860)
|-2. LATERHAUS/ LATTERHUS/LETTERHAUSE/ LETERHAUSE
+-2. Refael Nossen-Nutte "Nathan" LATTERHAUS (b.Abt
1877/1878-Olaszliszka-Lisk,Hungary d.Abt 1958-Jerusalem,Israel)
sp: Hay' Gittel ROHALD (b.About 1878?-Jerusalem,Palestine?
d.1958?-Jerusalem,Palestine)
|-3. Yonah-Taube Beile LATTERHAUS (b.8 Sep 1899-Jerusalem,Palestine
d.26 Sivan 5739/ Jun 21, 1979-Hempstead,Nassau,NY)
| sp: Mosheh Uri "Moses" HAIMSON (b.1905-Hebron,Palestine d.Jan 9,
1934/ 23 Teves 5694 (Age 29!)-Brooklyn,New York)
|-3. Devorah LATTERHAUS
| sp: Mosheh BERKUZ
| sp: Not Known
|-3. Sarah Hinde LATTERHAUS (b.Jerusalem,Palestine)
| sp: Yitshak Emmerich BURGER (b.Hungary)
|-3. Avraham Yitshak LATTERHAUS (b.Abt 1907-Jerusalem,Palestine
d.Jerusalem,Palestine)
+-3. Rahel Ruth L. LATTERHAUS (b.28 Nov 1909-Jerusalem,Palestine d.25
Feb 1995-Long Island,New York)

Please let me know if you can help with this search.

"Edna Hoover"
JGFF Researcher # 66736
B'klyn NY
ednahoover@...