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TRACHTENBERG, ROSENFELD, BUZINOFSKI pictures #romania

Claire Stuart <clstuart@...>
 

Subject:TRACHTENBERG, ROSENFELD, BUZINOFSKI photos

I have posted the following 5 pictures on Viewmate
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html

VM9322 - picture card - need translation (Yiddish)
Also Does anyone recognize these girls? They were Adel and Zelda
ROSENFELD/ROZENFELD, sisters of my grandmother, Anna (ROSENFELD)
TRACHTENBERG/TRAKHTENBERG taken in early 1900s, probably in Besserabia

I am hoping someone might recognize the people in the rest of these
pictures:

VM9323
Unknown couple, taken in Kishinev, probably around 1900s. This
picture was found in the effects of my grandparents, Jacob (Yankel/
Yakov/Jankel) TRACHTENBERG and Anna ROSENFELD. An identical photo was
in the possession of the family of an Isadore and Fanny (maiden name
unknown) BUS(Z?)INOFSKY. Both families were immigrants to NY early
1900s. Trachtenbergs claim to be related to Businofskys but
Businofskys did not think so. Both families were >from Kishinev.
Isadore was thought to have been a tinsmith. Jacob was trained as a
tinsmith in his father's (Mordecai/MottelTrakhtenberg) business in
Kishinev, making tin roofs.

VM9324
TRAKHTENBERG family 1935, probably taken in Kishinev. Photo sent to
my grandfather Jacob Trachtenberg >from one of his brothers but it did
not include the first names of anyone pictured.

VM9325
Passport or some sort of ID picture, probably around 1900s, Kishinev.
This is probably one of my grandfather's (Jacob Trachtenberg) brothers.

VM9326
Probably Mordecai and Brana (SHAPOSHNIK? spelling) TRAKHTENBERG,
parents of my grandfather, taken in Kishinev early 1900s.

Mordecai/Mordko/Mottel Itskovich TRAKHTENBERG and Brana Shliomovna
SHAPOSHNIK (? Spell) were said to have had 11 children, names of most

unknown. Three made it to America:
Jacob/Yankel/Jankel (born 1880)
Moshe/Moses/Morris (born 1886)
Schlioma/Sam (born 1894)
Other known children: Idel (born 1891)
Ayzik (born 1898)
Itskhok (born 1896)
There were related Trakhtenbergs, names unknown, in Odessa.
Jacob's wife Anna Rosenfeld had at least the two sisters (above) but
nothing else is known.
I welcome any connections to these families. Please reply to
clstuart@...

Claire Stuart
Glengary, WV

Researching: TRACHTENBERG/TRAKHTENBERG
ROSENFELD/ROZENFELD
SHAPOSHNIK

from Bessarabia & Odessa


Romanian names - Please help! #romania

Lynne Saionz
 

My grandmother immigrated to the US in 1907 after a pogram, I believe >from
Piatra-Neamt or a nearby village. Her name in English was "Jennie" (SUFFRIN),
which in Yiddush would have been something like Shaindel, but I never knew her
to use any name but Jennie. Can anyone tell me what the equivalent first name
might have been in Rumanian? Is there any common first name in Romanian that
sounds like "Jennie"? Is something like "Janek" a possibility? Or is that a
boy's name?

I would appreciate any suggestions as I have been unable to find any immigration
records for her so far and I have no idea what other names to look for.

Many thanks to all,
Lynne


Romania SIG #Romania Romanian names - Please help! #romania

Lynne Saionz
 

My grandmother immigrated to the US in 1907 after a pogram, I believe >from
Piatra-Neamt or a nearby village. Her name in English was "Jennie" (SUFFRIN),
which in Yiddush would have been something like Shaindel, but I never knew her
to use any name but Jennie. Can anyone tell me what the equivalent first name
might have been in Rumanian? Is there any common first name in Romanian that
sounds like "Jennie"? Is something like "Janek" a possibility? Or is that a
boy's name?

I would appreciate any suggestions as I have been unable to find any immigration
records for her so far and I have no idea what other names to look for.

Many thanks to all,
Lynne


Romania SIG #Romania TRACHTENBERG, ROSENFELD, BUZINOFSKI pictures #romania

Claire Stuart <clstuart@...>
 

Subject:TRACHTENBERG, ROSENFELD, BUZINOFSKI photos

I have posted the following 5 pictures on Viewmate
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html

VM9322 - picture card - need translation (Yiddish)
Also Does anyone recognize these girls? They were Adel and Zelda
ROSENFELD/ROZENFELD, sisters of my grandmother, Anna (ROSENFELD)
TRACHTENBERG/TRAKHTENBERG taken in early 1900s, probably in Besserabia

I am hoping someone might recognize the people in the rest of these
pictures:

VM9323
Unknown couple, taken in Kishinev, probably around 1900s. This
picture was found in the effects of my grandparents, Jacob (Yankel/
Yakov/Jankel) TRACHTENBERG and Anna ROSENFELD. An identical photo was
in the possession of the family of an Isadore and Fanny (maiden name
unknown) BUS(Z?)INOFSKY. Both families were immigrants to NY early
1900s. Trachtenbergs claim to be related to Businofskys but
Businofskys did not think so. Both families were >from Kishinev.
Isadore was thought to have been a tinsmith. Jacob was trained as a
tinsmith in his father's (Mordecai/MottelTrakhtenberg) business in
Kishinev, making tin roofs.

VM9324
TRAKHTENBERG family 1935, probably taken in Kishinev. Photo sent to
my grandfather Jacob Trachtenberg >from one of his brothers but it did
not include the first names of anyone pictured.

VM9325
Passport or some sort of ID picture, probably around 1900s, Kishinev.
This is probably one of my grandfather's (Jacob Trachtenberg) brothers.

VM9326
Probably Mordecai and Brana (SHAPOSHNIK? spelling) TRAKHTENBERG,
parents of my grandfather, taken in Kishinev early 1900s.

Mordecai/Mordko/Mottel Itskovich TRAKHTENBERG and Brana Shliomovna
SHAPOSHNIK (? Spell) were said to have had 11 children, names of most

unknown. Three made it to America:
Jacob/Yankel/Jankel (born 1880)
Moshe/Moses/Morris (born 1886)
Schlioma/Sam (born 1894)
Other known children: Idel (born 1891)
Ayzik (born 1898)
Itskhok (born 1896)
There were related Trakhtenbergs, names unknown, in Odessa.
Jacob's wife Anna Rosenfeld had at least the two sisters (above) but
nothing else is known.
I welcome any connections to these families. Please reply to
clstuart@...

Claire Stuart
Glengary, WV

Researching: TRACHTENBERG/TRAKHTENBERG
ROSENFELD/ROZENFELD
SHAPOSHNIK

from Bessarabia & Odessa


Re: rom-sig digest: August 25, 2006 #romania

O.M.
 

Shalom Isaac,

Following your question regarding Romanian archives.

I've sent a request to the National Archives in Bucharest back at
August 2005, based on instructions similar to those that you've
mentioned.

My request was for civil records >from Bucharest and Iasi.
I received one response >from the Bucharest Archives saying that they
couldn't found any of the records I requested.
Another response, >from the Iasi Archives, said that they found three
birth records and they sent it back to Bucharest for approval.
In conclusion, after 6 months I received the records at the Romanian
embassy in Israel for no charge.
The records they've sent were not a copy of the original birth records
but rather documents that include summary of the details taken from
the birth records (I can't tell whether all details >from the original
records were included).
Note that in my request I've put only the info I had, which apparently
was not so accurate, but still they found the records.

Three month ago I've sent another request, this time directly to the
Iasi Archives, asking for a copy of the original birth records I
received (and not a summary only), as well as a additional records.
Five weeks later I received a letter asking for a 37 US dollars fee
(the only way to pay is to transfer money to their account in a
Romanian bank in Bucharest - the do not get credit cards).
I transferred the money (the commission was additional 23 US dollars=85)
and I'm still waiting for the records.

To sum up - based on my experience with the Iasi Archives, your
chances are good (but note that the overall process can take several
months).
I can't tell you which way is preferred - sending the request through
Bucharest or directly to Iasi. Maybe you should try both.

Oded Mann
Israel
---------------------------------------------------
You wrote:

Shalom,
I'm seeking the birth certificate of my wife's Gr.father >from Iasy. I have
only his year of birth.


Romania SIG #Romania Re: rom-sig digest: August 25, 2006 #romania

O.M.
 

Shalom Isaac,

Following your question regarding Romanian archives.

I've sent a request to the National Archives in Bucharest back at
August 2005, based on instructions similar to those that you've
mentioned.

My request was for civil records >from Bucharest and Iasi.
I received one response >from the Bucharest Archives saying that they
couldn't found any of the records I requested.
Another response, >from the Iasi Archives, said that they found three
birth records and they sent it back to Bucharest for approval.
In conclusion, after 6 months I received the records at the Romanian
embassy in Israel for no charge.
The records they've sent were not a copy of the original birth records
but rather documents that include summary of the details taken from
the birth records (I can't tell whether all details >from the original
records were included).
Note that in my request I've put only the info I had, which apparently
was not so accurate, but still they found the records.

Three month ago I've sent another request, this time directly to the
Iasi Archives, asking for a copy of the original birth records I
received (and not a summary only), as well as a additional records.
Five weeks later I received a letter asking for a 37 US dollars fee
(the only way to pay is to transfer money to their account in a
Romanian bank in Bucharest - the do not get credit cards).
I transferred the money (the commission was additional 23 US dollars=85)
and I'm still waiting for the records.

To sum up - based on my experience with the Iasi Archives, your
chances are good (but note that the overall process can take several
months).
I can't tell you which way is preferred - sending the request through
Bucharest or directly to Iasi. Maybe you should try both.

Oded Mann
Israel
---------------------------------------------------
You wrote:

Shalom,
I'm seeking the birth certificate of my wife's Gr.father >from Iasy. I have
only his year of birth.


Fw: References for 7 Gemeinde #hungary

Edna Hoover
 

Our OFFEN-MAURER Family >from Mielec, Rszeszow, Galicia lived in Vienna,
Austria between the 2 World Wars & spent the summers in Kobersdorf. I found
the link below in my searches-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siebengemeinden

"Edna Hoover"
JGFF Researcher # 66736
For: LATTERHAUS, Olaszliszka-Lisk, Hungary
ednahoover@...

Moderator: Please continue this discussion off-list since relevance for those researching roots in Hungarian-speaking areas has not been established.


Re: Need a Birth Certificate from Muhi (aka Muhipuszta) #hungary

gary@...
 

Shaul,

Your maternal ggrandfather was probably listed in the Miskolc Jewish Birth records since his shtetl was small. The LDS Church has these records on microfilm. 1889 is covered on films #0642770 and 0642773. The films have the same records in different formats.

We are currently indexing those records but have not gotten as far as 1889.

Gary Deutsch
Roswell, GA

From: pollinia@...
Date: 2007/01/20 Sat AM 06:19:06 EST
To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@...>
Subject: [h-sig] Need a Birth Certificate >from Muhi (aka Muhipuszta)

Dear Genners,

My maternal ggrandfather, Bela (Vojtech) Gruwnald, was born in 1889 in Muhipuszta, nowadays (assumingly) Muhi, 17km away >from Miskolc. I've been told Muhipuszta may have been at the time of birth a small settlement, and later on became Muhi. Can any of you verify that?

In addition, I need to obtain a modern copy of his birth certificate and have no contacts there. How do I do it?


Many thanks for your help,
Shaul Sharoni,
Israel


Hungary SIG #Hungary Fw: References for 7 Gemeinde #hungary

Edna Hoover
 

Our OFFEN-MAURER Family >from Mielec, Rszeszow, Galicia lived in Vienna,
Austria between the 2 World Wars & spent the summers in Kobersdorf. I found
the link below in my searches-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siebengemeinden

"Edna Hoover"
JGFF Researcher # 66736
For: LATTERHAUS, Olaszliszka-Lisk, Hungary
ednahoover@...

Moderator: Please continue this discussion off-list since relevance for those researching roots in Hungarian-speaking areas has not been established.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Need a Birth Certificate from Muhi (aka Muhipuszta) #hungary

gary@...
 

Shaul,

Your maternal ggrandfather was probably listed in the Miskolc Jewish Birth records since his shtetl was small. The LDS Church has these records on microfilm. 1889 is covered on films #0642770 and 0642773. The films have the same records in different formats.

We are currently indexing those records but have not gotten as far as 1889.

Gary Deutsch
Roswell, GA

From: pollinia@...
Date: 2007/01/20 Sat AM 06:19:06 EST
To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@...>
Subject: [h-sig] Need a Birth Certificate >from Muhi (aka Muhipuszta)

Dear Genners,

My maternal ggrandfather, Bela (Vojtech) Gruwnald, was born in 1889 in Muhipuszta, nowadays (assumingly) Muhi, 17km away >from Miskolc. I've been told Muhipuszta may have been at the time of birth a small settlement, and later on became Muhi. Can any of you verify that?

In addition, I need to obtain a modern copy of his birth certificate and have no contacts there. How do I do it?


Many thanks for your help,
Shaul Sharoni,
Israel


Re: Tiszaujlak vital records #hungary

Sandor Bacskai <bacskaisanyi@...>
 

Dear Ken Berger,

The Tiszaujlak/Vylok Jewish records is not kept in Ungvar/Uzhorod. I
guess the Tiszaujlak Jewish community was not recording own records
in the 19th century, because there was not rabbinical center there at
that time.
As like Jordan Auslander, the births may had registered into records
of Nagyszolos (Vinogradov, Selish) Community.
The following years of Nagyszolos records are kept in Ungvar:
births: 1873-1895, marr: 1882-1895, deaths: 1882-1895.

Regards,

Sandor Bacskai
Budapest, Hungary

Original Message
Subject: Tisza Ujlok vital records
From: Kbergernyc@...
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 21:45:21 EST
X-Message-Number: 4

My grandfather Max (Menachem) Berger was born in 1878 in Tisza Ujlok,
Hungary, the town which is now Vylok Ukraine. Does anyone know where
birth,
marriage and death records can be obtained for Tisza Ujlok that
cover the years
1845-1880?
Ken Berger
New York City


Re Asszonyfa #hungary

Sandor Bacskai <bacskaisanyi@...>
 

Dear Samuel Kraus,

I suggest to try OSTFFY-ASSZONYFA, which is cca. 100 kilometers N of
Nagykanizsa. The town is locate in Vas County, the births, marriages
and deaths were registered into records of Nagysimonyi Jewish Community.

Regards,

Sandor Bacskai
Budapest, Hungary


Joan and Sam Kraus <jnskraus@...> wrote:

In the New York Passenger Lists 1820-1957, on the Ancestry.com
website,
I found a listing for Daniel Kraus. The birth location is given as
asszonifalva. The closest listing in Where Once We Walked is
asszonyfa,
located 107 km North of Nagykanizsa. The estimated birth year in the
Passenger list is 1884, which matches the birth years for my
uncle,Daniel Kraus. In what megye would he have been born? Where would
the birth records be located now?
____________________________________________________________________
Tavaszig, most minden féláron! ADSL Internet már 1 745 Ft/hó -tól.
Keresse ajánlatunkat a http://www.freestart.hu oldalon!


Magyar Zsido Okleveltar #hungary

Kormans
 

I believe that the UCLA library has most of the volumes of the Magyar Zsido
Okleveltar.

Debbi Korman
Portland, OR


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Tiszaujlak vital records #hungary

Sandor Bacskai <bacskaisanyi@...>
 

Dear Ken Berger,

The Tiszaujlak/Vylok Jewish records is not kept in Ungvar/Uzhorod. I
guess the Tiszaujlak Jewish community was not recording own records
in the 19th century, because there was not rabbinical center there at
that time.
As like Jordan Auslander, the births may had registered into records
of Nagyszolos (Vinogradov, Selish) Community.
The following years of Nagyszolos records are kept in Ungvar:
births: 1873-1895, marr: 1882-1895, deaths: 1882-1895.

Regards,

Sandor Bacskai
Budapest, Hungary

Original Message
Subject: Tisza Ujlok vital records
From: Kbergernyc@...
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 21:45:21 EST
X-Message-Number: 4

My grandfather Max (Menachem) Berger was born in 1878 in Tisza Ujlok,
Hungary, the town which is now Vylok Ukraine. Does anyone know where
birth,
marriage and death records can be obtained for Tisza Ujlok that
cover the years
1845-1880?
Ken Berger
New York City


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re Asszonyfa #hungary

Sandor Bacskai <bacskaisanyi@...>
 

Dear Samuel Kraus,

I suggest to try OSTFFY-ASSZONYFA, which is cca. 100 kilometers N of
Nagykanizsa. The town is locate in Vas County, the births, marriages
and deaths were registered into records of Nagysimonyi Jewish Community.

Regards,

Sandor Bacskai
Budapest, Hungary


Joan and Sam Kraus <jnskraus@...> wrote:

In the New York Passenger Lists 1820-1957, on the Ancestry.com
website,
I found a listing for Daniel Kraus. The birth location is given as
asszonifalva. The closest listing in Where Once We Walked is
asszonyfa,
located 107 km North of Nagykanizsa. The estimated birth year in the
Passenger list is 1884, which matches the birth years for my
uncle,Daniel Kraus. In what megye would he have been born? Where would
the birth records be located now?
____________________________________________________________________
Tavaszig, most minden féláron! ADSL Internet már 1 745 Ft/hó -tól.
Keresse ajánlatunkat a http://www.freestart.hu oldalon!


Hungary SIG #Hungary Magyar Zsido Okleveltar #hungary

Kormans
 

I believe that the UCLA library has most of the volumes of the Magyar Zsido
Okleveltar.

Debbi Korman
Portland, OR


zyd #general

lenard
 

Barbara Zimmer correctly identified the Polish word "zyd" (pr. zheed)
for Jew. But it may be added that this and similar words occur in many
other languages, e.g. the Hungarian "zsido" for Jew. And these are all
etymologically related to the German "Jude" and its variants, including
even the French "juif" and the English "Jew." As self-reference by the
people themselves it survives in the name of their mixed German-Hebrew
vernacular Yiddish. The word is also preserved in such present day
given names as Yehudi (e.g. the great violinist Menuhin), or Ehud
(Olmer, prime minister of Israel). All these originated >from the name
of the ancient southern Israeli kingdom of Judah, and of course that
name ultimately came >from Judah, fourth son of the Biblical patriarch
Jacob-Israel, the most warlike among them. As a generic for all
Israelites it probably survived because the other eleven tribal names
(named after the other sons) faded after the tribes themselves were
wiped out in 734 B.C.E. by the Assyrian Empire, only "Judah" remaining.

MODERATOR NOTE: Please continue privately unless your response
is clearly and directly connected to genealogy.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen zyd #general

lenard
 

Barbara Zimmer correctly identified the Polish word "zyd" (pr. zheed)
for Jew. But it may be added that this and similar words occur in many
other languages, e.g. the Hungarian "zsido" for Jew. And these are all
etymologically related to the German "Jude" and its variants, including
even the French "juif" and the English "Jew." As self-reference by the
people themselves it survives in the name of their mixed German-Hebrew
vernacular Yiddish. The word is also preserved in such present day
given names as Yehudi (e.g. the great violinist Menuhin), or Ehud
(Olmer, prime minister of Israel). All these originated >from the name
of the ancient southern Israeli kingdom of Judah, and of course that
name ultimately came >from Judah, fourth son of the Biblical patriarch
Jacob-Israel, the most warlike among them. As a generic for all
Israelites it probably survived because the other eleven tribal names
(named after the other sons) faded after the tribes themselves were
wiped out in 734 B.C.E. by the Assyrian Empire, only "Judah" remaining.

MODERATOR NOTE: Please continue privately unless your response
is clearly and directly connected to genealogy.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Akkerman #ukraine

COSTARIN@...
 

I am new at this. My grandmother claimed she came >from Akkerman (now
Belgorod Dnestrovsky), 27 miles SW of Odessa (where her entire family lived).
The family name was BORISH or BEREISIS.
I'd like to communicate with people who are investigating Akkerman.

Carol Oseran Starin
Seattle, WA
costarin@...


Akkerman #ukraine

COSTARIN@...
 

I am new at this. My grandmother claimed she came >from Akkerman (now
Belgorod Dnestrovsky), 27 miles SW of Odessa (where her entire family lived).
The family name was BORISH or BEREISIS.
I'd like to communicate with people who are investigating Akkerman.

Carol Oseran Starin
Seattle, WA
costarin@...