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VM11045 Polish translation #general

MarlaP1041@...
 

Hello all,
Once again I am asking for help.Can somebody please translate this letter
from the Sandomierz repository? The link is:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=11045
I think I know the general meaning of the letter but would like to be sure
before answering them.
Thank you so much and please respond privately,
Marla Pietroniro
Marstons Mills, MA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen VM11045 Polish translation #general

MarlaP1041@...
 

Hello all,
Once again I am asking for help.Can somebody please translate this letter
from the Sandomierz repository? The link is:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=11045
I think I know the general meaning of the letter but would like to be sure
before answering them.
Thank you so much and please respond privately,
Marla Pietroniro
Marstons Mills, MA


RABBI ELIEZER WINTNER #hungary

Avrofek <avrofek@...>
 

Rabbi Raphael Halperin in his encyclopedia Etz Hayim lists haRav Eliezer
Wintner #2351 as one of the great rabbis of Hungary. He was rabbi in
Breif(sp!) and Av Bet Din in Shtempan (sp!). He was a disciple of haRav
Moshe Sofer.
He died in 1893 at the age of 41.
I would appreciate ANY information: scholastic, rabbinic, family, genealogy,
etc.
Thank you all'
Avraham Ofek


18th century emigration to Hungary #hungary

Henry Wellisch <henry.kelwel@...>
 

There is a lot of detailed information available on the immigration
into Hungary >from Moravia, Austria and Bohemia. Most of it is shown in
the various 18th century censuses that were conducted in Hungary. In
some of these censuses (1725, 1735) the origin of the head of
household is identified. These censuses were published in Magyar Zsido
Okleveltar, an 18 volume collection on Hungarian Jewish documents,
which is available in certain University and large Jewish libraries.
Henry Wellisch
Toronto


Hungary SIG #Hungary RABBI ELIEZER WINTNER #hungary

Avrofek <avrofek@...>
 

Rabbi Raphael Halperin in his encyclopedia Etz Hayim lists haRav Eliezer
Wintner #2351 as one of the great rabbis of Hungary. He was rabbi in
Breif(sp!) and Av Bet Din in Shtempan (sp!). He was a disciple of haRav
Moshe Sofer.
He died in 1893 at the age of 41.
I would appreciate ANY information: scholastic, rabbinic, family, genealogy,
etc.
Thank you all'
Avraham Ofek


Hungary SIG #Hungary 18th century emigration to Hungary #hungary

Henry Wellisch <henry.kelwel@...>
 

There is a lot of detailed information available on the immigration
into Hungary >from Moravia, Austria and Bohemia. Most of it is shown in
the various 18th century censuses that were conducted in Hungary. In
some of these censuses (1725, 1735) the origin of the head of
household is identified. These censuses were published in Magyar Zsido
Okleveltar, an 18 volume collection on Hungarian Jewish documents,
which is available in certain University and large Jewish libraries.
Henry Wellisch
Toronto


ZIRNER Family from Hungary and Vienna #hungary

Ed Zwieback <ezwieback@...>
 

We have collected a lot of basic info about the ZIRNER family, originally
from Bonyhad, Hungary, and prominent in Vienna. They were connected to the
ZWIEBACK family. The ZIRNER family chart is shown at
http://ezwieback.com/ZFN-p/ld10.htm#a0 .

I would be happy add any new family info to the website.

Regards,
Ed Zwieback
Long Beach, California
with the ZWIEBACK Family Name at http://ezwieback.com/ZFN-p/index.htm


Hungary SIG #Hungary ZIRNER Family from Hungary and Vienna #hungary

Ed Zwieback <ezwieback@...>
 

We have collected a lot of basic info about the ZIRNER family, originally
from Bonyhad, Hungary, and prominent in Vienna. They were connected to the
ZWIEBACK family. The ZIRNER family chart is shown at
http://ezwieback.com/ZFN-p/ld10.htm#a0 .

I would be happy add any new family info to the website.

Regards,
Ed Zwieback
Long Beach, California
with the ZWIEBACK Family Name at http://ezwieback.com/ZFN-p/index.htm


Re: -ov ending on surnames #sephardic

David & Diana Laufer <dlaufer@...>
 

Elaine Bush wrote:
I find this discussion interesting. My FRUMHOFF family was most
likely FRUMOV.

Another possibility is that HOFF is the German/Yiddish word for a
courtyard. And FRUM is Yiddish for 'religious'. So FRUMHOFF
could have been the owner of a place where some religious
activities took place.

David Laufer
Sydney


Sephardic SIG #Sephardim Re: -ov ending on surnames #sephardic

David & Diana Laufer <dlaufer@...>
 

Elaine Bush wrote:
I find this discussion interesting. My FRUMHOFF family was most
likely FRUMOV.

Another possibility is that HOFF is the German/Yiddish word for a
courtyard. And FRUM is Yiddish for 'religious'. So FRUMHOFF
could have been the owner of a place where some religious
activities took place.

David Laufer
Sydney


Resignation #lithuania

Carol Baker
 

I hereby resign as Coordinator for the Siauliai District Research Group
effective immediately.

Carol Coplin Baker

MODERATOR'S NOTE: LitvakSIG extends heartfelt thanks to Carol for her
many years of painstaking work and commitment, both as the SIG's Research
Groups Coordinator and as the Siauliai District Research Group Coordinator.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Resignation #lithuania

Carol Baker
 

I hereby resign as Coordinator for the Siauliai District Research Group
effective immediately.

Carol Coplin Baker

MODERATOR'S NOTE: LitvakSIG extends heartfelt thanks to Carol for her
many years of painstaking work and commitment, both as the SIG's Research
Groups Coordinator and as the Siauliai District Research Group Coordinator.


HILL family and the 1900 & 1920 Federal Census #general

Dina Hill
 

I went back to the 1900 Census for Aaron and Sarah HILL and I realized
something thanks to a Jewishgenner so kind to help me out as well as others.
The columns were not quite the same as they were in the 1920 census. In the
1900 Census, column 16 asks year of immigration. Aaron put 1886 (he arrived
Nov. 1885 for sure >from the ship's manifest that I have)and Sarah put 1887.
Their son Benjamin was born September 1887 but on the 1920 census, in the
column that asks what year did you arrive, they have written there 1896
which is definitely wrong. In the 1900 census, column 17 asks "Number of
years in the USA" and column 18 just says "Naturalization" (not the year).

Sarah Hill did not come to New York in 1887 the way her husband did in 1885.
And if he got it wrong himself, saying he came here in 1886 when I have the
ship's manifest to show he arrived in November 1885, then as someone here
pointed out, there's a good chance that she arrived at a different port like
Philadelphia rather than New York. The only thing I know for sure is that
their son Benjamin was born in New York September 1887. Whether he was
born a CHILL or a HILL, I don't know but in 1900, they were HILL. I can't
find any legal document to show the name change. I have sent letter to the
National Archives with the ship's information and the year Aaron said he was
Naturalized but no Naturalization papers could be found.

If anyone thinks they can help me, please e-mail me. I really need to find
out how Sarah (or Sura) Rubinstein/Rubenstajn Chill HILL arrived. If she
was married to him before she got here, then was she a CHILL or a HILL?

Best Regards,

Dina Hill
Davie, FL

searching CHILL, HILL, GABRIEL, LICHTENFELD, PESS, PEST, APTEKARZ, APTEKAR,
KLAJNKOFMAN, KLEINKAUFMAN, CHAMITA, MUSZKAT, HELFMAN, TEMER,
RUBENSTEIN,RUBINSTEIN, RUBENSTAJN


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen HILL family and the 1900 & 1920 Federal Census #general

Dina Hill
 

I went back to the 1900 Census for Aaron and Sarah HILL and I realized
something thanks to a Jewishgenner so kind to help me out as well as others.
The columns were not quite the same as they were in the 1920 census. In the
1900 Census, column 16 asks year of immigration. Aaron put 1886 (he arrived
Nov. 1885 for sure >from the ship's manifest that I have)and Sarah put 1887.
Their son Benjamin was born September 1887 but on the 1920 census, in the
column that asks what year did you arrive, they have written there 1896
which is definitely wrong. In the 1900 census, column 17 asks "Number of
years in the USA" and column 18 just says "Naturalization" (not the year).

Sarah Hill did not come to New York in 1887 the way her husband did in 1885.
And if he got it wrong himself, saying he came here in 1886 when I have the
ship's manifest to show he arrived in November 1885, then as someone here
pointed out, there's a good chance that she arrived at a different port like
Philadelphia rather than New York. The only thing I know for sure is that
their son Benjamin was born in New York September 1887. Whether he was
born a CHILL or a HILL, I don't know but in 1900, they were HILL. I can't
find any legal document to show the name change. I have sent letter to the
National Archives with the ship's information and the year Aaron said he was
Naturalized but no Naturalization papers could be found.

If anyone thinks they can help me, please e-mail me. I really need to find
out how Sarah (or Sura) Rubinstein/Rubenstajn Chill HILL arrived. If she
was married to him before she got here, then was she a CHILL or a HILL?

Best Regards,

Dina Hill
Davie, FL

searching CHILL, HILL, GABRIEL, LICHTENFELD, PESS, PEST, APTEKARZ, APTEKAR,
KLAJNKOFMAN, KLEINKAUFMAN, CHAMITA, MUSZKAT, HELFMAN, TEMER,
RUBENSTEIN,RUBINSTEIN, RUBENSTAJN


Census transcriptions and mistranscriptions #general

Barbara Zimmer
 

Dear Genners:
As an example ot bad writing and worse transcription, I offer an
example >from the 1930 US census for my family in East Orange NJ. At a
popular paid website, my grandmother, Anna, is transcribed as
"Arena" and her youngest daughter is transcribed as "Theobald"
although her name is Lucille! My uncle is transcribed as Wilbur and
his name was Milton! Granted, the census taker had really bad
handwriting and poor spelling, but I dare not tell my elderly aunt
that she was "Theobald" in 1930!

I have sent in corrections, but **their version still takes precedence.....

Barbara Zimmer
Norfolk VA


Searching county property appraiser's web sites #general

Dina Hill
 

Hi Fellow Jewishgenners,

I don't know if this has been brought up yet but I did want to let you all
know that a great way to find people with the surname you're looking for is
to look that name up in various county property appraiser's web sites.

Broward County Florida Property Appraiser's Web Site Link
http://www.bcpa.net/search.asp
Palm Beach County Florida
http://www.co.palm-beach.fl.us/papa/aspx/GeneralSearch/GeneralSearch.aspx
Miami-Dade County http://www.miamidade.gov/pa/property_search.asp
Cook County Illinois Property Appraiser
http://www.cookcountyassessor.com/ccao/startres.html

...and you can google to see what other counties are online.

Best Regards,
Dina Aptekar Hill

Searching: APTEKAR, APTAKER, HILL, CHILL, MUSZKAT, HELFMAN, KLAJNKOFMAN,
KLEINKAUFMAN, GABRIEL, LICHTENFELD, TEMER, CHAMITA, RUBENSTEIN, RUBINSTEIN,
RUBENSTAJN


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Census transcriptions and mistranscriptions #general

Barbara Zimmer
 

Dear Genners:
As an example ot bad writing and worse transcription, I offer an
example >from the 1930 US census for my family in East Orange NJ. At a
popular paid website, my grandmother, Anna, is transcribed as
"Arena" and her youngest daughter is transcribed as "Theobald"
although her name is Lucille! My uncle is transcribed as Wilbur and
his name was Milton! Granted, the census taker had really bad
handwriting and poor spelling, but I dare not tell my elderly aunt
that she was "Theobald" in 1930!

I have sent in corrections, but **their version still takes precedence.....

Barbara Zimmer
Norfolk VA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching county property appraiser's web sites #general

Dina Hill
 

Hi Fellow Jewishgenners,

I don't know if this has been brought up yet but I did want to let you all
know that a great way to find people with the surname you're looking for is
to look that name up in various county property appraiser's web sites.

Broward County Florida Property Appraiser's Web Site Link
http://www.bcpa.net/search.asp
Palm Beach County Florida
http://www.co.palm-beach.fl.us/papa/aspx/GeneralSearch/GeneralSearch.aspx
Miami-Dade County http://www.miamidade.gov/pa/property_search.asp
Cook County Illinois Property Appraiser
http://www.cookcountyassessor.com/ccao/startres.html

...and you can google to see what other counties are online.

Best Regards,
Dina Aptekar Hill

Searching: APTEKAR, APTAKER, HILL, CHILL, MUSZKAT, HELFMAN, KLAJNKOFMAN,
KLEINKAUFMAN, GABRIEL, LICHTENFELD, TEMER, CHAMITA, RUBENSTEIN, RUBINSTEIN,
RUBENSTAJN


Re: Hair color hane? #general

Jules Levin
 

I submitted this as a linguistic puzzle to my Slavic and East European
Languages list (SEELANGS), and received interesting comments.

I will only mention what I think is the most plausible:
One responder cited the German word hanebuechen, abbreviated to 'hane',
meaning 'nondescript'. An American ship could have had a German purser
[or whichever officer compiled the manifest] who knew the common color
names in English but slipped at 'nondescript'.

Some responders on SEELANGS asked to see the original.
It would be good if it were possible to send a copy.

Jules Levin
Los Angeles

MODERATOR NOTE: Please communicate privately with Jules Levin about his request.


Rabbi Eliezer WINTNER #general

Avrofek <avrofek@...>
 

Rabbi Raphael Halperin in his encyclopedia Etz Hayim lists haRav Eliezer
WINTNER #2351 as one of the great rabbis of Hungary. He was rabbi in
Breif(sp!) and Av Bet Din in Shtempan (sp!). He was a disciple of haRav
Moshe Sofer.
He died in 1893 at the age of 41.
I would appreciate *any* information: scholastic, rabbinic, family, genealogy,
etc.
Thank you all'
Avraham Ofek