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Przedborz - Horses & Beer? #general

Isabel Cymerman
 

Dear Genners,
Some time ago I read that my ancestral town of Przedborz, Poland was known
for its horse fair as well as its beer. Cannot remember where I read
this. Can anyone confirm or refute?

Many thanks.

Isabel Cymerman
Roxbury, CT


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Przedborz - Horses & Beer? #general

Isabel Cymerman
 

Dear Genners,
Some time ago I read that my ancestral town of Przedborz, Poland was known
for its horse fair as well as its beer. Cannot remember where I read
this. Can anyone confirm or refute?

Many thanks.

Isabel Cymerman
Roxbury, CT


Thanks #poland

DR. Yoram Rossler <yrossler@...>
 

A few days ago I posted a request for the translation of a text >from Polish
to English. The text was a message >from the APK Nowy Sacz department. I was
pleasently surprised to receive several responses with the requested
translation and also tips that assisted me in furthering my research of the
ROSSLER family.

So, to all of you, apart >from the personal thanks I sent to their e-mails,
thank you again for the cooperation. It warms my heart to find real
friendship within the group.

Dr. Yoram Rossler


JRI Poland #Poland Thanks #poland

DR. Yoram Rossler <yrossler@...>
 

A few days ago I posted a request for the translation of a text >from Polish
to English. The text was a message >from the APK Nowy Sacz department. I was
pleasently surprised to receive several responses with the requested
translation and also tips that assisted me in furthering my research of the
ROSSLER family.

So, to all of you, apart >from the personal thanks I sent to their e-mails,
thank you again for the cooperation. It warms my heart to find real
friendship within the group.

Dr. Yoram Rossler


jonora@...
 

Although I am not on GENI , it seems to me that the problems associated with
this could be overcome in the following way. Keep your own tree on your
computer. Put your tree on Geni, and then use Geni only to see where others
are taking it and take >from it those things that interest you and put them
into your personal tree, ignoring where it goes, unless you have something
else to add that fits with the new directions it is going. That way you
would "have your cake and eat it". You would keep control of your tree but
get the new stuff if it shows up
Nora HELLER FREUND.
Also searching Bondy, Eckstein, Kohns >from Neustadl and Drahomischl Bohemia.


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech geni #austria-czech

jonora@...
 

Although I am not on GENI , it seems to me that the problems associated with
this could be overcome in the following way. Keep your own tree on your
computer. Put your tree on Geni, and then use Geni only to see where others
are taking it and take >from it those things that interest you and put them
into your personal tree, ignoring where it goes, unless you have something
else to add that fits with the new directions it is going. That way you
would "have your cake and eat it". You would keep control of your tree but
get the new stuff if it shows up
Nora HELLER FREUND.
Also searching Bondy, Eckstein, Kohns >from Neustadl and Drahomischl Bohemia.


Re: Geni #austria-czech

george@...
 

Geni shows the power of collaboration. True, Geni is not as good a product
as I think it ought to be, it is not standards or wiki-based and is based on
a for-profit model, but ....
because of geni, I am connected with many people in my family whom
i never knew before and whom i would never have found on my own. I have
only started entering my family and I have dozens of people collaborating
with me.

True, I have no control over my tree, but it is not my tree to control. It is a
very extended family tree and i can see nothing better than if it was one tree
that included everyone. Wikipedia has shown how much more information
you can get by collaboration and perhaps surprisingly, how much more
accurate information is when you have collaboration.

Geni has its problems and i mentioned some of them above, but it is a
wonderful tool. Think of the extra information that we get by working
together. JewishGen has provided some of that and provides much more
"control" in the way it does sets up the family tree of the Jewish people.
Frankly, I prefer having more collaboration.

best,
george
Montreal, Quebec, Canada

George Farkas


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: Geni #austria-czech

george@...
 

Geni shows the power of collaboration. True, Geni is not as good a product
as I think it ought to be, it is not standards or wiki-based and is based on
a for-profit model, but ....
because of geni, I am connected with many people in my family whom
i never knew before and whom i would never have found on my own. I have
only started entering my family and I have dozens of people collaborating
with me.

True, I have no control over my tree, but it is not my tree to control. It is a
very extended family tree and i can see nothing better than if it was one tree
that included everyone. Wikipedia has shown how much more information
you can get by collaboration and perhaps surprisingly, how much more
accurate information is when you have collaboration.

Geni has its problems and i mentioned some of them above, but it is a
wonderful tool. Think of the extra information that we get by working
together. JewishGen has provided some of that and provides much more
"control" in the way it does sets up the family tree of the Jewish people.
Frankly, I prefer having more collaboration.

best,
george
Montreal, Quebec, Canada

George Farkas


Joining Geni #austria-czech

feising@...
 

With all due respect to Randy Schoenberg's posting, there is something
inherently wrong with Geni. Philosophically speaking, if one is interested
in tracing one's roots back to the 10th cousin, twice removed, and not care
about who controls the inputs that you posted on Geni, and how they can be
distorted after merging, then Geni is your place. However, my experience
with Geni left me greatly disappointed.

For one, before I joined Geni, I was not told that I should not join if I
wanted to post "my" tree instead of being part of "our" tree. Also, I was
not told that when one merges a posting, one usually loses "management"
(control) of the merged posting. Geni usually assigns management to the one
who requests the merge, even though your entry may be may be for your
parents or first cousin, and the requester's relationship to that person is
far, far removed. That is exactly what happened to me. My posting of my
first cousin, a 12 year old Holocaust victim, whom I grew up with in
Vienna, of whom I have pictures, statistics and have memorialized in
articles and a documentary, and for whom I say Kaddish, is no longer under
my control simply because of a merger request by someone far removed.

Another problem is when there are two entries in Geni for the same person ,
one by you, and one by someone else who is hardly related. The one entered
by you is correct because you grew up with this person, knew his name, have
documents about birth, death, etc.; the other person's entry has much
information incorrect and refuses change it. That "someone else" has
repeatedly asked me to merge and I steadfastly refuse for the same reasons
that were stated in B.Newman's and R.Bower's postings.

Before joining Geni, go to their website "geni.com", go to "Forum", select
the category "Merging!" and then decide if Geni is right for you.

Frank Eisinger
Saint James, NY


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Joining Geni #austria-czech

feising@...
 

With all due respect to Randy Schoenberg's posting, there is something
inherently wrong with Geni. Philosophically speaking, if one is interested
in tracing one's roots back to the 10th cousin, twice removed, and not care
about who controls the inputs that you posted on Geni, and how they can be
distorted after merging, then Geni is your place. However, my experience
with Geni left me greatly disappointed.

For one, before I joined Geni, I was not told that I should not join if I
wanted to post "my" tree instead of being part of "our" tree. Also, I was
not told that when one merges a posting, one usually loses "management"
(control) of the merged posting. Geni usually assigns management to the one
who requests the merge, even though your entry may be may be for your
parents or first cousin, and the requester's relationship to that person is
far, far removed. That is exactly what happened to me. My posting of my
first cousin, a 12 year old Holocaust victim, whom I grew up with in
Vienna, of whom I have pictures, statistics and have memorialized in
articles and a documentary, and for whom I say Kaddish, is no longer under
my control simply because of a merger request by someone far removed.

Another problem is when there are two entries in Geni for the same person ,
one by you, and one by someone else who is hardly related. The one entered
by you is correct because you grew up with this person, knew his name, have
documents about birth, death, etc.; the other person's entry has much
information incorrect and refuses change it. That "someone else" has
repeatedly asked me to merge and I steadfastly refuse for the same reasons
that were stated in B.Newman's and R.Bower's postings.

Before joining Geni, go to their website "geni.com", go to "Forum", select
the category "Merging!" and then decide if Geni is right for you.

Frank Eisinger
Saint James, NY


Ulashkivtsi #galicia

Anita Frankel
 

Dear Fellow Galitzianers and Ulashkivtsi researchers:

There is good news for those of us interested in Ulashkivtsi!

The Gesher Galicia website now lists our town as having been
inventoried by our researcher in L'viv, Brian Lenius. There are
three sets of 19th century land records and a large scale map.

To have these documents copied and forwarded we need to do
fundraising to cover the cost of photographing and copying these
records this spring. If you are interested in contributing to our
town's project, please contact me privately for more details.

Anita Frankel
Frankel2@charter.net


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Ulashkivtsi #galicia

Anita Frankel
 

Dear Fellow Galitzianers and Ulashkivtsi researchers:

There is good news for those of us interested in Ulashkivtsi!

The Gesher Galicia website now lists our town as having been
inventoried by our researcher in L'viv, Brian Lenius. There are
three sets of 19th century land records and a large scale map.

To have these documents copied and forwarded we need to do
fundraising to cover the cost of photographing and copying these
records this spring. If you are interested in contributing to our
town's project, please contact me privately for more details.

Anita Frankel
Frankel2@charter.net


from Argentina #ukraine

florazul007@...
 

Hello, I need to translate several documents >from cyrilic to english or spanish.- I have obtained them >from Ukraine.-I need to know what tell me; they are all about my maternal surname "Yaroshevsky" . These docs could be to utility to other people looking for the same surname, Thanks
Sophy Guifan >from Argentina-ID 55249


Stolbsty to Lubny Kahana-Shapiro #ukraine

Gayle Schlissel Riley
 

I know Shapiro is one the most common Jewish last names But maybe there is a Shapiro out there who statred out in Stolbsty, Belarus or Timikovichi, Belarus and then went to Lubny, Ukraine. I am told we are Kahana-Shapiro.
Benjamin Isaac wife Rifka Moskovitz had the following children Morris, Ahron, Jacob, Nathan, Yitchuk and Yomtov Gutman..Does any of this ring a bell?
Gayle >from San Gabriel respond privately


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine from Argentina #ukraine

florazul007@...
 

Hello, I need to translate several documents >from cyrilic to english or spanish.- I have obtained them >from Ukraine.-I need to know what tell me; they are all about my maternal surname "Yaroshevsky" . These docs could be to utility to other people looking for the same surname, Thanks
Sophy Guifan >from Argentina-ID 55249


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Stolbsty to Lubny Kahana-Shapiro #ukraine

Gayle Schlissel Riley
 

I know Shapiro is one the most common Jewish last names But maybe there is a Shapiro out there who statred out in Stolbsty, Belarus or Timikovichi, Belarus and then went to Lubny, Ukraine. I am told we are Kahana-Shapiro.
Benjamin Isaac wife Rifka Moskovitz had the following children Morris, Ahron, Jacob, Nathan, Yitchuk and Yomtov Gutman..Does any of this ring a bell?
Gayle >from San Gabriel respond privately


SZENCZER #hungary

David Sencer
 

My grandfather immigrated >from Hungary in 1882 and we have not been able to find
anything about his family or life in Hungary. The Census for 1900 lists him as
Senzer, Ignatz. All records since then are SENCER

We have recently found in the rabbinical birth records a record of one of his sons
(an uncle of mine). The information is
SZENCZER, Adolf 14-Dec-1876
M Ignatz
Borbala GROSZ Miskolc / 1876-207
Miskolc
Borsod Miskol

Ignatz' Naturalization paper identifies him as SCZENCZER.


Do any members of the SIG have knowledge of such a family? Our family tree is on
file as Sencer, Ignatz We are 17076


Thanks for any help you can give.

David Sencer


Hungary SIG #Hungary SZENCZER #hungary

David Sencer
 

My grandfather immigrated >from Hungary in 1882 and we have not been able to find
anything about his family or life in Hungary. The Census for 1900 lists him as
Senzer, Ignatz. All records since then are SENCER

We have recently found in the rabbinical birth records a record of one of his sons
(an uncle of mine). The information is
SZENCZER, Adolf 14-Dec-1876
M Ignatz
Borbala GROSZ Miskolc / 1876-207
Miskolc
Borsod Miskol

Ignatz' Naturalization paper identifies him as SCZENCZER.


Do any members of the SIG have knowledge of such a family? Our family tree is on
file as Sencer, Ignatz We are 17076


Thanks for any help you can give.

David Sencer


ESTER GROSS who left Poland for Israel in the 1930s #poland

Wexberg, Marcia
 

I have looked at your passport list for Polish Emigrees to Israel in the
1930s and Ester Gross is not on it. Looking for some way to trace her and
her descendants (we know she married in Israel and had a son, but we do not
have her married name). She is my mother's aunt. My mother is a Holocaust
survivor and in the 1980s and 90s I tried to find her using mail, newspaper
ads in Israel and the Search Bureau for Missing Relatives at The Jewish
Agency.

Her name at birth was ESTER (OR ESTERA) GROSS. Approx birthdate 1905-1915.
Birthplace Poland (now Ukraine). City might have been Monastezyska
Wielkie. Possibly moved to Lwow (Lvov, Lemberg) as a child. Parents,
Mojzesz and Etla (Moses and Etel) Gross. Siblings, Juda Mayer Gross,
Leibish Gross, Mina Gross, Sabina Edel (married with 2 sons, Kurt and
Benjamin - lived in Germany or Austria - emigrated to the US with her
husband and sons in the 1930s - also looking for her and her descendants!).

Any help would be appreciated!

Many thanks, Marcia Wexberg

Marcia J. Wexberg
mwexberg@calfee.com

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Any suggestions for research methods or resources may be shared with
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JRI Poland #Poland ESTER GROSS who left Poland for Israel in the 1930s #poland

Wexberg, Marcia
 

I have looked at your passport list for Polish Emigrees to Israel in the
1930s and Ester Gross is not on it. Looking for some way to trace her and
her descendants (we know she married in Israel and had a son, but we do not
have her married name). She is my mother's aunt. My mother is a Holocaust
survivor and in the 1980s and 90s I tried to find her using mail, newspaper
ads in Israel and the Search Bureau for Missing Relatives at The Jewish
Agency.

Her name at birth was ESTER (OR ESTERA) GROSS. Approx birthdate 1905-1915.
Birthplace Poland (now Ukraine). City might have been Monastezyska
Wielkie. Possibly moved to Lwow (Lvov, Lemberg) as a child. Parents,
Mojzesz and Etla (Moses and Etel) Gross. Siblings, Juda Mayer Gross,
Leibish Gross, Mina Gross, Sabina Edel (married with 2 sons, Kurt and
Benjamin - lived in Germany or Austria - emigrated to the US with her
husband and sons in the 1930s - also looking for her and her descendants!).

Any help would be appreciated!

Many thanks, Marcia Wexberg

Marcia J. Wexberg
mwexberg@calfee.com

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately with family information.
Any suggestions for research methods or resources may be shared with
the list.