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Re: Origin of naming conventions with dissimilar names #general

Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

In article <20051208153607.6C226D4224@...>,
< Miriam.Rubin@... > wrote:

Does anybody have a logical explanation why the following name
combinations 'went together'?
Ithamar Ephraim, Yechiel Mechel, Tzvi Aryeh, Levi Yitzchok
The last one is popular, especially in Chassidic circles, because
of Rabbi Levi Yitzchok of Berdichev (1740 - 1810). See e.g.
< http://www.berdichev.org/rabbi_biography.html >

As for Yechiel Mechel, that was discussed here in June, and
I came up with the following list >from the Jewish Encyclopedia:

Jehiel Michael ben Judah Loeb (Germany, d. 1728)
Jehiel Michael ben Eliezer (Russia, d. 1648)
Michael Jehiel SACHS (Germany, 1808-1864)
Jehiel Michael ben Uzziel of Glogau (Germany, d. 1730)
Jehiel Michael ben Aryeh KALISCHER (Poland, d. 1713)
Jehiel Michael ben H.ayyim ZABLUDOWSKI (Byalistok, 1803-1869)
Jehiel Michael PINES (b. Rozhany, 1842)
Abraham ben Jehiel Michael Ha-Kohen LASK
Meir Loeb ben Jehiel Michael (the Malbim, 1809-1879)
Jehiel Michael MORAWCZYK (Lublin, d. 1593)

Robert Israel
israel@...
Vancouver, BC, Canada


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Origin of naming conventions with dissimilar names #general

Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

In article <20051208153607.6C226D4224@...>,
< Miriam.Rubin@... > wrote:

Does anybody have a logical explanation why the following name
combinations 'went together'?
Ithamar Ephraim, Yechiel Mechel, Tzvi Aryeh, Levi Yitzchok
The last one is popular, especially in Chassidic circles, because
of Rabbi Levi Yitzchok of Berdichev (1740 - 1810). See e.g.
< http://www.berdichev.org/rabbi_biography.html >

As for Yechiel Mechel, that was discussed here in June, and
I came up with the following list >from the Jewish Encyclopedia:

Jehiel Michael ben Judah Loeb (Germany, d. 1728)
Jehiel Michael ben Eliezer (Russia, d. 1648)
Michael Jehiel SACHS (Germany, 1808-1864)
Jehiel Michael ben Uzziel of Glogau (Germany, d. 1730)
Jehiel Michael ben Aryeh KALISCHER (Poland, d. 1713)
Jehiel Michael ben H.ayyim ZABLUDOWSKI (Byalistok, 1803-1869)
Jehiel Michael PINES (b. Rozhany, 1842)
Abraham ben Jehiel Michael Ha-Kohen LASK
Meir Loeb ben Jehiel Michael (the Malbim, 1809-1879)
Jehiel Michael MORAWCZYK (Lublin, d. 1593)

Robert Israel
israel@...
Vancouver, BC, Canada


MICHAELIS,MICHALOWSKY,MICHAELOVSKY #unitedkingdom

Miriam Margolyes <75342.3217@...>
 

The certifcates below are not part of my search.
I can send to whoever might want them.

Best-Miriam Margolyes

DEATH
Hermann MICHAELIS
March 1885
Manchester 8d 160 aged 63
____________________________
DEATH

March 1885
Joanna C. MICHALOWSKY:
West Derby 8b 449
aged 82
_______________________________
BIRTH
June 1899
Marks MICHAELOVSKY
Whitechapel 1c 332
________________________________________


searching: JENIKS, LEWIS (Newcastle) BIERMANN
HAUGHAN


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom MICHAELIS,MICHALOWSKY,MICHAELOVSKY #unitedkingdom

Miriam Margolyes <75342.3217@...>
 

The certifcates below are not part of my search.
I can send to whoever might want them.

Best-Miriam Margolyes

DEATH
Hermann MICHAELIS
March 1885
Manchester 8d 160 aged 63
____________________________
DEATH

March 1885
Joanna C. MICHALOWSKY:
West Derby 8b 449
aged 82
_______________________________
BIRTH
June 1899
Marks MICHAELOVSKY
Whitechapel 1c 332
________________________________________


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HAUGHAN


Given Name Chaim #general

Shlomo Katz <SKatz@...>
 

I don't know about common use, but the earliest rabbinic scholar named
Chaim that I can think of was Rabbi Chaim Or Zarua of Vienna in the
1400's. He was the son of the better known Rabbi Yitzchak Or Zarua.
Shlomo Katz
Silver Spring MD


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Given Name Chaim #general

Shlomo Katz <SKatz@...>
 

I don't know about common use, but the earliest rabbinic scholar named
Chaim that I can think of was Rabbi Chaim Or Zarua of Vienna in the
1400's. He was the son of the better known Rabbi Yitzchak Or Zarua.
Shlomo Katz
Silver Spring MD


VM: SILBERMAN, Golde and Peshe. Alytus or Kalvarija, Lithunia #general

Golda Zewi
 

I have posted on ViewMate two photos of young SILBERMAN girls who according
to text on the backside of the photos are cousins to my GOLDBERG family from
Zsaki, Lithuania. Photos are >from 1930 and 1933.

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html

Golde SILBERMAN
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7194

Peshe SILBERMAN
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7195

If you recognize either of the girls, please respond privately to me at

goldazewi@...

Thanks in advance

Golda Zewi
Turku, Finland

Researching
KAGAN, COHEN, SHAPIRO >from Oshmyany Belarus
RAPPAPORT >from Kedainiai or Panevezys Lithuania
GOLDBERG >from Sakiai Lithunia
HIRSCHOWITSCH >from Oshmyany or Slonim Belarus
HOFFMAN >from Slonim or Kossovo Belarus


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen VM: SILBERMAN, Golde and Peshe. Alytus or Kalvarija, Lithunia #general

Golda Zewi
 

I have posted on ViewMate two photos of young SILBERMAN girls who according
to text on the backside of the photos are cousins to my GOLDBERG family from
Zsaki, Lithuania. Photos are >from 1930 and 1933.

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html

Golde SILBERMAN
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7194

Peshe SILBERMAN
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7195

If you recognize either of the girls, please respond privately to me at

goldazewi@...

Thanks in advance

Golda Zewi
Turku, Finland

Researching
KAGAN, COHEN, SHAPIRO >from Oshmyany Belarus
RAPPAPORT >from Kedainiai or Panevezys Lithuania
GOLDBERG >from Sakiai Lithunia
HIRSCHOWITSCH >from Oshmyany or Slonim Belarus
HOFFMAN >from Slonim or Kossovo Belarus


RESSMANN-WAINWRIGHT #southafrica

N. Gillath <ngillath@...>
 

My great-grandfather had 7 children. One of his grandchildren Betina
ROTHCHILD immigrated to S.A. with her husband. She married to Gottfried
RESSMANN >from Koln. They lived in Johannesburg (Emmigrated in 1931). They
had one daughter Yvonne RESSMAN who used to live or still lives in Port
Elizabeth she married Dennis Lyle WAINWRIGHT (son of Melville Wainwright
and Winifred Goetze). They have one son Keith born in Port Elizabeth
21.2.1954.

It would interest me very much what became of this family. Any help on your
part would be very much apreciated.

Nurit B. Gillath, Haifa Israel
ngillath@...


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica RESSMANN-WAINWRIGHT #southafrica

N. Gillath <ngillath@...>
 

My great-grandfather had 7 children. One of his grandchildren Betina
ROTHCHILD immigrated to S.A. with her husband. She married to Gottfried
RESSMANN >from Koln. They lived in Johannesburg (Emmigrated in 1931). They
had one daughter Yvonne RESSMAN who used to live or still lives in Port
Elizabeth she married Dennis Lyle WAINWRIGHT (son of Melville Wainwright
and Winifred Goetze). They have one son Keith born in Port Elizabeth
21.2.1954.

It would interest me very much what became of this family. Any help on your
part would be very much apreciated.

Nurit B. Gillath, Haifa Israel
ngillath@...


The Horowitz Families Convention #rabbinic

Shlomo Gurevich
 

The Horowitz Families Association is glad to inform RavSIG members
that our 21st Convention will take place at Dizengoff House,
16 Rothschild Blvd., Tel Aviv, on Tuesday, the 2nd day of Hanukkah,
27.12.05 at 5:00 pm. The full agenda can be found at our website
at http://www.geocities.com/horowitzassociation/Agenda-Kenes21.htm

Shlomo Gurevich
Hoshaya, Israel
http://www.geocities.com/shl_gur


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic The Horowitz Families Convention #rabbinic

Shlomo Gurevich
 

The Horowitz Families Association is glad to inform RavSIG members
that our 21st Convention will take place at Dizengoff House,
16 Rothschild Blvd., Tel Aviv, on Tuesday, the 2nd day of Hanukkah,
27.12.05 at 5:00 pm. The full agenda can be found at our website
at http://www.geocities.com/horowitzassociation/Agenda-Kenes21.htm

Shlomo Gurevich
Hoshaya, Israel
http://www.geocities.com/shl_gur


Rabbinical research based on 18th century census records #rabbinic

GDLProject@...
 

Two interesting articles pertaining to Rabbinical families and based
on eighteenth century bridging records have been published by Chaim
Freedman on the Jewish Family History Foundation website
< www.jewishfamilyhistory.org >.

One is the family of the Vilna Gaon and proves Freedman's research
to establish the relative ages and order of the Gaon's sons.

The other, a new article resulting >from study and comparison of the
1765 and 1784 censuses of the Jewish community of Salant, Lithuania
reveals the family of the famous Rabbi Yosef Zundel SALANTER and
provides the name of a previously unknown ancestor.

The site includes other articles demonstrating the efficacy of
researching eighteenth century records >from the Grand Duchy of
Lithuania (which in modern times became the territory included in
Lithuania, Belarus, parts of Poland, and Ukraine.)

David Hoffman, Ph.D.
President, Jewish Family History Foundation


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Rabbinical research based on 18th century census records #rabbinic

GDLProject@...
 

Two interesting articles pertaining to Rabbinical families and based
on eighteenth century bridging records have been published by Chaim
Freedman on the Jewish Family History Foundation website
< www.jewishfamilyhistory.org >.

One is the family of the Vilna Gaon and proves Freedman's research
to establish the relative ages and order of the Gaon's sons.

The other, a new article resulting >from study and comparison of the
1765 and 1784 censuses of the Jewish community of Salant, Lithuania
reveals the family of the famous Rabbi Yosef Zundel SALANTER and
provides the name of a previously unknown ancestor.

The site includes other articles demonstrating the efficacy of
researching eighteenth century records >from the Grand Duchy of
Lithuania (which in modern times became the territory included in
Lithuania, Belarus, parts of Poland, and Ukraine.)

David Hoffman, Ph.D.
President, Jewish Family History Foundation


More on Trebitsch #austria-czech

Henry Wellisch <henry.kelwel@...>
 

I was at the Library at the U of Toronto to have a look at the article
in Judaica Bohemiae on the history of the Jewish cemetery in
Trebitsch. It is in English and the authors are Vlastimila Hamackova
and Jirina Sedinova. The oldest stone is >from the year 1641 and at
that time and until the beginning of the 19th century inscription were
all in Hebrew. Then they changed to German and there are also some in
Judendeutsch, meaning that they are in German but with Hebrew
characters. The article mentions many names among them Otto SPIRA who
died in 1911.. >from the 1930s on more inscriptions are in Czech.
I also wanted to have another look at the famous book on Moravia by
Hugo Gold, but it was out. However a later book by Gold on Moravia
published after the war, entitled Gedenkbuch der untergegangenen
Judengeminden Maehrens (Memorial book on the destroyed Jewish
communities of Moravia) was on the shelf. This book is not as detailed
as the other one, but it does mention that Leopold SPIRA was
Buergermeister >from 1901 to 1904.
Henry Wellisch
Toronto


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech More on Trebitsch #austria-czech

Henry Wellisch <henry.kelwel@...>
 

I was at the Library at the U of Toronto to have a look at the article
in Judaica Bohemiae on the history of the Jewish cemetery in
Trebitsch. It is in English and the authors are Vlastimila Hamackova
and Jirina Sedinova. The oldest stone is >from the year 1641 and at
that time and until the beginning of the 19th century inscription were
all in Hebrew. Then they changed to German and there are also some in
Judendeutsch, meaning that they are in German but with Hebrew
characters. The article mentions many names among them Otto SPIRA who
died in 1911.. >from the 1930s on more inscriptions are in Czech.
I also wanted to have another look at the famous book on Moravia by
Hugo Gold, but it was out. However a later book by Gold on Moravia
published after the war, entitled Gedenkbuch der untergegangenen
Judengeminden Maehrens (Memorial book on the destroyed Jewish
communities of Moravia) was on the shelf. This book is not as detailed
as the other one, but it does mention that Leopold SPIRA was
Buergermeister >from 1901 to 1904.
Henry Wellisch
Toronto


KAFKA from Strakonice #austria-czech

Amira Kohn-Trattner <amira.kt@...>
 

Any KAFKA's in the Strakonice area would, most likely, in my view be related
to Franz KAFKA whose ancestors (and mine) came >from a small village in the
Strakonice-Pisek area called Wossek (or Osek). Wossek was the birthplace of
Franz's father, Herrmann Kafka. Franz's grandfather Jakob Kafka is buried
in Wossek (a beautiful small cemetery in the middle of the woods in the
Wossek area). Jakob was the brother of my gt.gt.grandfather Leopold Kafka
who also lived in the area but according to the National (Czech) Archives
was >from Bukowina where he was a manager of a farm. He moved to Prague in
the 1870's and was the proprietor of many cafes including the "original"
Kafka Cafe. His daughter, Maria (Miriam) Kafka was my great grandmother and
first cousin of Herrmann. I know "my" Kafka's lived on the "Jewish street"
in Wossek and were Kosher butchers. Since Strakonice was so close I would
think that some of the Kafka's >from Wossek were related to the Strakonice
Kafkas. Unfortunately, at this stage my research has not gone beyond this
point.

Amira Kohn-Trattner


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech KAFKA from Strakonice #austria-czech

Amira Kohn-Trattner <amira.kt@...>
 

Any KAFKA's in the Strakonice area would, most likely, in my view be related
to Franz KAFKA whose ancestors (and mine) came >from a small village in the
Strakonice-Pisek area called Wossek (or Osek). Wossek was the birthplace of
Franz's father, Herrmann Kafka. Franz's grandfather Jakob Kafka is buried
in Wossek (a beautiful small cemetery in the middle of the woods in the
Wossek area). Jakob was the brother of my gt.gt.grandfather Leopold Kafka
who also lived in the area but according to the National (Czech) Archives
was >from Bukowina where he was a manager of a farm. He moved to Prague in
the 1870's and was the proprietor of many cafes including the "original"
Kafka Cafe. His daughter, Maria (Miriam) Kafka was my great grandmother and
first cousin of Herrmann. I know "my" Kafka's lived on the "Jewish street"
in Wossek and were Kosher butchers. Since Strakonice was so close I would
think that some of the Kafka's >from Wossek were related to the Strakonice
Kafkas. Unfortunately, at this stage my research has not gone beyond this
point.

Amira Kohn-Trattner


Wandering Jew #lithuania

Denis Nathan <dnathan@...>
 

AS to how Jews got to Lithuania, there is very good recently published
book, "Yiddish Civilization", by Paul Kriwaczek, detailing Jewish
emigration >from the South during Roman times,and >from the west around
the end of the first millennium.

One last word on physiognomy. There have been studies showing DNA
similarities between Jews >from Africa, Europe and Asia. Also DNA
between Jews >from all continents is very much closer to that >from the
Middle East than it is to the host country populations. One explanation
may be that one intermarriage did occur, the offspring were usually
raised as gentiles.Which would explain why our features are not Balt or
Slavic.

Denis Nathan
Milwaukee Wisconsin.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Wandering Jew #lithuania

Denis Nathan <dnathan@...>
 

AS to how Jews got to Lithuania, there is very good recently published
book, "Yiddish Civilization", by Paul Kriwaczek, detailing Jewish
emigration >from the South during Roman times,and >from the west around
the end of the first millennium.

One last word on physiognomy. There have been studies showing DNA
similarities between Jews >from Africa, Europe and Asia. Also DNA
between Jews >from all continents is very much closer to that >from the
Middle East than it is to the host country populations. One explanation
may be that one intermarriage did occur, the offspring were usually
raised as gentiles.Which would explain why our features are not Balt or
Slavic.

Denis Nathan
Milwaukee Wisconsin.