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Going beyond the 1700's in researching Polish Jewish ancestors #general

Elaine Farran
 

Hi
While I've met a brick wall trying to find out the maiden name of
my great-grandmother, I've been very fortunate in being able to
trace other family members to the middle-to-late 1700's

What I would like know is once you have gotten as far back as
records are available, how can you find out when Jewish people
arrived to the towns of record (all Polish), and >from where?

Thank you

Best regards
Elaine Farran
Long Beach NY
Researching:
ELBINGER,CHENCZINSKY,SZAMPANIER,ROZENSZWAJG - Konskie
FRYSZ - Zgierz
GORENSTEIN/HORSZTEIN - Lublin, Wawsaw, Pulawy
HAYMAN/CHAJMAN - Kaminiensk
ZAMLER - Modryce/Bobrowniki/Irena-Deblin, Pulawy
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Going beyond the 1700's in researching Polish Jewish ancestors #general

Elaine Farran
 

Hi
While I've met a brick wall trying to find out the maiden name of
my great-grandmother, I've been very fortunate in being able to
trace other family members to the middle-to-late 1700's

What I would like know is once you have gotten as far back as
records are available, how can you find out when Jewish people
arrived to the towns of record (all Polish), and >from where?

Thank you

Best regards
Elaine Farran
Long Beach NY
Researching:
ELBINGER,CHENCZINSKY,SZAMPANIER,ROZENSZWAJG - Konskie
FRYSZ - Zgierz
GORENSTEIN/HORSZTEIN - Lublin, Wawsaw, Pulawy
HAYMAN/CHAJMAN - Kaminiensk
ZAMLER - Modryce/Bobrowniki/Irena-Deblin, Pulawy
San Francisco Bay Area Family History Centers - Conclusion #general

Cyndi Norwitz
 

Thanks to everyone who replied to my query about northern-ish
San Francisco Bay Area Family History Centers (aka Family Search
Libraries).

And the winner is...Oakland! Several people told me it's one of
the biggest FHCs around and has lots of machines and resources,
plus long hours and great volunteers.

Some notes about other sites:

San Rafael: Small but nice.
San Francisco: Hours by appt only.
Plus someone added a plug for San Bruno.

I've been warned to wait until January for regular hours in all
the centers, which is fine since I haven't ordered my film yet.
Besides, I can only go down when my daughter is in school.

I hope to see some of you there!
Thanks,
Cyndi Norwitz
Petaluma, California
cyndi@...

Kotesova, Slovakia: DEUTELBAUM, ZELENKA
Kosice, Slovakia: KRIEGER
Budapest, Hungary: DEUTELBAUM, KARPATI, GROSZMANN
Cleveland, OH & Chicago, IL & Pittsburgh, PA: DEUTELBAUM
Boston, MA: KARPATI
Chudnov, Ukraine: DUBIN
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen San Francisco Bay Area Family History Centers - Conclusion #general

Cyndi Norwitz
 

Thanks to everyone who replied to my query about northern-ish
San Francisco Bay Area Family History Centers (aka Family Search
Libraries).

And the winner is...Oakland! Several people told me it's one of
the biggest FHCs around and has lots of machines and resources,
plus long hours and great volunteers.

Some notes about other sites:

San Rafael: Small but nice.
San Francisco: Hours by appt only.
Plus someone added a plug for San Bruno.

I've been warned to wait until January for regular hours in all
the centers, which is fine since I haven't ordered my film yet.
Besides, I can only go down when my daughter is in school.

I hope to see some of you there!
Thanks,
Cyndi Norwitz
Petaluma, California
cyndi@...

Kotesova, Slovakia: DEUTELBAUM, ZELENKA
Kosice, Slovakia: KRIEGER
Budapest, Hungary: DEUTELBAUM, KARPATI, GROSZMANN
Cleveland, OH & Chicago, IL & Pittsburgh, PA: DEUTELBAUM
Boston, MA: KARPATI
Chudnov, Ukraine: DUBIN
Viewmate request - Help reading Polish AGAD entry #general

Bruce Drake <bruce.drake@...>
 

I'm hoping a sharper eye than mine can decipher the AGAD record in Polish
referenced here. Above the last name "Knopf" there appears to be a first
named that seems to start with an "S" but I just can't make out the script.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM25264

Bruce Drake
Silver Spring, Md.

Researching: DRACH, EBERT, KIMMEL, ZLOTNICK

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately or on the ViewMate response form.
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate request - Help reading Polish AGAD entry #general

Bruce Drake <bruce.drake@...>
 

I'm hoping a sharper eye than mine can decipher the AGAD record in Polish
referenced here. Above the last name "Knopf" there appears to be a first
named that seems to start with an "S" but I just can't make out the script.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM25264

Bruce Drake
Silver Spring, Md.

Researching: DRACH, EBERT, KIMMEL, ZLOTNICK

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately or on the ViewMate response form.
Gil Huttenmeister #france

E Feinstein
 

Shalom
Has anyone been in touch with Gil Huttenmeister?
This is the retired professor in Stuttgart that spoke at the Paris conference.
Please let me know.
all the best.
Eric FEINSTEIN
Clifton New Jersey
French SIG #France Gil Huttenmeister #france

E Feinstein
 

Shalom
Has anyone been in touch with Gil Huttenmeister?
This is the retired professor in Stuttgart that spoke at the Paris conference.
Please let me know.
all the best.
Eric FEINSTEIN
Clifton New Jersey
Warszawa Research Group #Warsaw #Poland Tracing ancestors beyond 1700's in Poland #warsaw #poland

Elaine Farran
 

Hi
While I've met a brick wall trying to find out the maiden name
of my great-grandmother, I've been very fortunate in being able
to trace other family members to the middle-to-late 1700's

What I would like know is once you have gotten as far back
as records are available, how can you find out when Jewish people
arrived to the towns of record (Warsaw and environs),
and >from where did they come?

Thank you

Best regards
Elaine Farran
Long Beach NY
Researching:
GORENSTEIN/HORSZTEIN/ZAMLER - Lublin, Wawsaw, Pulawy
ZAMLER - Modryce/Bobrowniki/Irena-Deblin, Pulawy
Tracing ancestors beyond 1700's in Poland #warsaw #poland

Elaine Farran
 

Hi
While I've met a brick wall trying to find out the maiden name
of my great-grandmother, I've been very fortunate in being able
to trace other family members to the middle-to-late 1700's

What I would like know is once you have gotten as far back
as records are available, how can you find out when Jewish people
arrived to the towns of record (Warsaw and environs),
and >from where did they come?

Thank you

Best regards
Elaine Farran
Long Beach NY
Researching:
GORENSTEIN/HORSZTEIN/ZAMLER - Lublin, Wawsaw, Pulawy
ZAMLER - Modryce/Bobrowniki/Irena-Deblin, Pulawy
update at www.GenTeam.at #hungary

Traude Triebel
 

New at www.GenTeam.at

1      New: Waehring IKG cemetery (Jewish Community Cemetery) 1784-1879
approximately 29,000 burials 
2      Obituaries of Pester Lloyd: the gap between 1888-1890 closed
3      Lodges ? approximate 12,000 entries were added

1       New Database: Waehring Jewish Community (IKG) Cemetery 1784-1879
Approximately 29,000 Entries

Mrs. Traude Triebel reviewed the death registries of the Jewish Community
(IKG). In this database you will find surnames and given names, along with
the maiden name of women, their  husband?s name, marital status, city and
country of origin, profession, age, date of death, date of interment,
information of the parents,  place of death and address.

2     Obituaries Pester Lloyd: The Gap of 1888-1890 is closed

Mr.Georg Gaugusch has reviewed and completed the database of  the obituaries
of Pester Lloyd in Budapest between 1888 und 1890; thus, all obituaries of
the Pester Lloyd, between 1878 and 1910 are in the database including
surname, given name, maiden name, date of publication, date of death,
religion, age and place of publication.


3     Lodges ? Members of diverse Lodges 1785-1931
        approximately 12,000 new records

Members of various Johannis Lodges were added in Berlin, Munich, Erlangen,
Nuremberg, Hannover, Mannheim, Frankfurt, Breslau, Kassel, Stuttgart,
Wiesbaden, Hanau am Main, Heilbronn, Beuthen, Leipzig, Dortmund, and
Hamburg, as well as B´nai B´rith Lodges in Prag, Kattowitz, Posen, Bielitz,
Kraukau, Lemberg, Koenigshütte, Warschau, Przemysl, Lodsch, Stanislawow and
Berlin.  Not only surname and given name are listed, but also, among other
things and depending on the lodge, profession, address of the work place,
the private address, when member registered, as well as the date of death of
already deceased members.  You will find all back issues in the help phase
at GenTeam.

Traude Triebel
2700 Wr.Neustadt
Austria

Moderator: Please direct inqueries to Traude.
Hungary SIG #Hungary update at www.GenTeam.at #hungary

Traude Triebel
 

New at www.GenTeam.at

1      New: Waehring IKG cemetery (Jewish Community Cemetery) 1784-1879
approximately 29,000 burials 
2      Obituaries of Pester Lloyd: the gap between 1888-1890 closed
3      Lodges ? approximate 12,000 entries were added

1       New Database: Waehring Jewish Community (IKG) Cemetery 1784-1879
Approximately 29,000 Entries

Mrs. Traude Triebel reviewed the death registries of the Jewish Community
(IKG). In this database you will find surnames and given names, along with
the maiden name of women, their  husband?s name, marital status, city and
country of origin, profession, age, date of death, date of interment,
information of the parents,  place of death and address.

2     Obituaries Pester Lloyd: The Gap of 1888-1890 is closed

Mr.Georg Gaugusch has reviewed and completed the database of  the obituaries
of Pester Lloyd in Budapest between 1888 und 1890; thus, all obituaries of
the Pester Lloyd, between 1878 and 1910 are in the database including
surname, given name, maiden name, date of publication, date of death,
religion, age and place of publication.


3     Lodges ? Members of diverse Lodges 1785-1931
        approximately 12,000 new records

Members of various Johannis Lodges were added in Berlin, Munich, Erlangen,
Nuremberg, Hannover, Mannheim, Frankfurt, Breslau, Kassel, Stuttgart,
Wiesbaden, Hanau am Main, Heilbronn, Beuthen, Leipzig, Dortmund, and
Hamburg, as well as B´nai B´rith Lodges in Prag, Kattowitz, Posen, Bielitz,
Kraukau, Lemberg, Koenigshütte, Warschau, Przemysl, Lodsch, Stanislawow and
Berlin.  Not only surname and given name are listed, but also, among other
things and depending on the lodge, profession, address of the work place,
the private address, when member registered, as well as the date of death of
already deceased members.  You will find all back issues in the help phase
at GenTeam.

Traude Triebel
2700 Wr.Neustadt
Austria

Moderator: Please direct inqueries to Traude.
Recommendations, hire tour guide or genealogist? #hungary

Jake Jacobs
 

Looking for recommendations/experiences touring Hungary and Romania with an expert. Would you
recommend hiring a genealogist or a tour guide? Would you recommend two experts (one Hungarian, one
Romanian), or just one?

Would like someone knowledgeable about Jewish history in the area. Plan to visit Budapest (mother's birthplace and visit to rabbinic school, which g'grandfather attended); Erdobenye (Zemplin district), g'father's birthplace; Celldomolk (g'grandfather lived here); Somoskoujfalu,birthplace of g
g'grandfather; and Arad, Romania (birthplace of g'grandparents).

May reply privately, if you wish. Thanks so much!

Diane Jacobs
Austin, Texas
jake6621 at hotmail dot com

Moderator: General recommendations should be sent to the list but if you have suggestions re. specific
guides or researchers, please contact Diane off-list.
Museum of Sub-Carpathia Jewish History #hungary

Marshall Katz
 

Dear Sub-Carpathia researchers,

A generous benefactor >from Sub-Carpathia is establishing a "Museum of
Sub-Carpathia Jewish History" in Berehove (Beregszasz) and will be
canvassing
the residents of Sub-Carpathia today for items left behind by the Jews,
after the deportations in 1944, and by the survivors who emigrated,
post-1945.
This includes religious items found in former synagogues and prayer houses
in the towns and villages.

Accordingly, I wanted to inform all Jewishgen Sub-Carpathia researchers of
this noteworthy initiative in case you have something, >from your
Sub-Carpathian family, that you might like to contribute to memorialize
your
relatives.

My father was part of the U.S. Army unit that liberated one of the
concentration camps where many Hungarian Jews---survivors of the death
march---were interned, and I will be donating what he brought home, i.e.,
a striped
"lager" (camp) uniform, camp photos and a "sefer" (religious book) written
by
a Sub-Carpathian rabbi >from Beregszasz.

Coincidentally, my father's first cousin was interned in this camp and
they missed each other by one day, the cousin having returned to his
hometown,
Klyucharki, near Mukacheve. The Cold War prevented them >from meeting
until 1993, when his cousin immigrated to the USA after Ukraine declared
its
independence >from the former Soviet Union and he had retired >from his job
in
Berehove.

Any questions, you can contact me off list.

Very respectfully,
Marshall KATZ
Sub-Carpathia SIG coordinator
Hungary SIG #Hungary Recommendations, hire tour guide or genealogist? #hungary

Jake Jacobs
 

Looking for recommendations/experiences touring Hungary and Romania with an expert. Would you
recommend hiring a genealogist or a tour guide? Would you recommend two experts (one Hungarian, one
Romanian), or just one?

Would like someone knowledgeable about Jewish history in the area. Plan to visit Budapest (mother's birthplace and visit to rabbinic school, which g'grandfather attended); Erdobenye (Zemplin district), g'father's birthplace; Celldomolk (g'grandfather lived here); Somoskoujfalu,birthplace of g
g'grandfather; and Arad, Romania (birthplace of g'grandparents).

May reply privately, if you wish. Thanks so much!

Diane Jacobs
Austin, Texas
jake6621 at hotmail dot com

Moderator: General recommendations should be sent to the list but if you have suggestions re. specific
guides or researchers, please contact Diane off-list.
Hungary SIG #Hungary Museum of Sub-Carpathia Jewish History #hungary

Marshall Katz
 

Dear Sub-Carpathia researchers,

A generous benefactor >from Sub-Carpathia is establishing a "Museum of
Sub-Carpathia Jewish History" in Berehove (Beregszasz) and will be
canvassing
the residents of Sub-Carpathia today for items left behind by the Jews,
after the deportations in 1944, and by the survivors who emigrated,
post-1945.
This includes religious items found in former synagogues and prayer houses
in the towns and villages.

Accordingly, I wanted to inform all Jewishgen Sub-Carpathia researchers of
this noteworthy initiative in case you have something, >from your
Sub-Carpathian family, that you might like to contribute to memorialize
your
relatives.

My father was part of the U.S. Army unit that liberated one of the
concentration camps where many Hungarian Jews---survivors of the death
march---were interned, and I will be donating what he brought home, i.e.,
a striped
"lager" (camp) uniform, camp photos and a "sefer" (religious book) written
by
a Sub-Carpathian rabbi >from Beregszasz.

Coincidentally, my father's first cousin was interned in this camp and
they missed each other by one day, the cousin having returned to his
hometown,
Klyucharki, near Mukacheve. The Cold War prevented them >from meeting
until 1993, when his cousin immigrated to the USA after Ukraine declared
its
independence >from the former Soviet Union and he had retired >from his job
in
Berehove.

Any questions, you can contact me off list.

Very respectfully,
Marshall KATZ
Sub-Carpathia SIG coordinator
Gemuenden (Hunnsrueck)-BOOK CITE #germany

Paul King
 

On 15 December 2012, Wolfgang Fritzsche, prof. Genealogist Mainz provided
the adoption list for various towns including Gemuenden (in the Hunnsrueck
area of the Rhineland).

For anyone interested in the Gemuenden names, the supplement study on
"The Gemuenden Families" in ">from the Rhineland to Wisconsin"
by John Henry Richter (1990) is an excellent source for comparison
and identification of Jewish Gemuenden residents born before 1808.

I have not checked but it might be accessible on-line through the NY
Leo Baeck Institute data banks under the John Henry Richter fond.

Prof. Fritzche's posting is

www.a-h-b.de/AHB/Listen/Kirchberg.htm

Paul King, Jerusalem pauledking@...

Seeking STRAUSS in Brauneberg, Bernkastel, Muelheim (Middle Mosel, Rhineland)
German SIG #Germany Gemuenden (Hunnsrueck)-BOOK CITE #germany

Paul King
 

On 15 December 2012, Wolfgang Fritzsche, prof. Genealogist Mainz provided
the adoption list for various towns including Gemuenden (in the Hunnsrueck
area of the Rhineland).

For anyone interested in the Gemuenden names, the supplement study on
"The Gemuenden Families" in ">from the Rhineland to Wisconsin"
by John Henry Richter (1990) is an excellent source for comparison
and identification of Jewish Gemuenden residents born before 1808.

I have not checked but it might be accessible on-line through the NY
Leo Baeck Institute data banks under the John Henry Richter fond.

Prof. Fritzche's posting is

www.a-h-b.de/AHB/Listen/Kirchberg.htm

Paul King, Jerusalem pauledking@...

Seeking STRAUSS in Brauneberg, Bernkastel, Muelheim (Middle Mosel, Rhineland)
Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Museum of Sub-Carpathia Jewish History #ukraine

Marshall Katz
 

Dear Sub-Carpathia researchers,

A generous benefactor >from Sub-Carpathia is establishing a "Museum of
Sub-Carpathia Jewish History" in Berehove (Beregszasz) and will be
canvassing
the residents of Sub-Carpathia today for items left behind by the Jews,
after the deportations in 1944, and by the survivors who emigrated,
post-1945.
This includes religious items found in former synagogues and prayer houses
in the towns and villages.

Accordingly, I wanted to inform all Jewishgen Sub-Carpathia researchers of
this noteworthy initiative in case you have something, >from your
Sub-Carpathian family, that you might like to contribute to memorialize
your
relatives.

My father was part of the U.S. Army unit that liberated one of the
concentration camps where many Hungarian Jews---survivors of the death
march---were interned, and I will be donating what he brought home, i.e.,
a striped
"lager" (camp) uniform, camp photos and a "sefer" (religious book) written
by
a Sub-Carpathian rabbi >from Beregszasz.

Coincidentally, my father's first cousin was interned in this camp and
they missed each other by one day, the cousin having returned to his
hometown,
Klyucharki, near Mukacheve. The Cold War prevented them >from meeting
until 1993, when his cousin immigrated to the USA after Ukraine declared
its
independence >from the former Soviet Union and he had retired >from his job
in
Berehove.

Any questions, you can contact me off list.

Very respectfully,
Marshall KATZ
Sub-Carpathia SIG coordinator
Museum of Sub-Carpathia Jewish History #ukraine

Marshall Katz
 

Dear Sub-Carpathia researchers,

A generous benefactor >from Sub-Carpathia is establishing a "Museum of
Sub-Carpathia Jewish History" in Berehove (Beregszasz) and will be
canvassing
the residents of Sub-Carpathia today for items left behind by the Jews,
after the deportations in 1944, and by the survivors who emigrated,
post-1945.
This includes religious items found in former synagogues and prayer houses
in the towns and villages.

Accordingly, I wanted to inform all Jewishgen Sub-Carpathia researchers of
this noteworthy initiative in case you have something, >from your
Sub-Carpathian family, that you might like to contribute to memorialize
your
relatives.

My father was part of the U.S. Army unit that liberated one of the
concentration camps where many Hungarian Jews---survivors of the death
march---were interned, and I will be donating what he brought home, i.e.,
a striped
"lager" (camp) uniform, camp photos and a "sefer" (religious book) written
by
a Sub-Carpathian rabbi >from Beregszasz.

Coincidentally, my father's first cousin was interned in this camp and
they missed each other by one day, the cousin having returned to his
hometown,
Klyucharki, near Mukacheve. The Cold War prevented them >from meeting
until 1993, when his cousin immigrated to the USA after Ukraine declared
its
independence >from the former Soviet Union and he had retired >from his job
in
Berehove.

Any questions, you can contact me off list.

Very respectfully,
Marshall KATZ
Sub-Carpathia SIG coordinator
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