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Re: KehilaLinks Project Report for October 2013 #usa

luc.radu@...
 

Please note CRAIOVA is in OLTENIA, the capital of that Romanian region.
The place listed in the below links is in TRANSYLVANIA near Arad. No
connection whatsoever.

http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/B=E9lkir=E1lymez=F5

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craiva

Luc Radu
Great Neck, NY


Some of our KehilaLinks webpages were created by
people who are no longer able to maintain them.
The following webpages are "orphaned" and are available for adoption.

Craiova (Belkiralymezo, Canalu), Romania
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/dolj/Craiova.html
~~~


Romania SIG #Romania Re: KehilaLinks Project Report for October 2013 #romania

luc.radu@...
 

Please note CRAIOVA is in OLTENIA, the capital of that Romanian region.
The place listed in the below links is in TRANSYLVANIA near Arad. No
connection whatsoever.

http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/B=E9lkir=E1lymez=F5

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craiva

Luc Radu
Great Neck, NY


Some of our KehilaLinks webpages were created by
people who are no longer able to maintain them.
The following webpages are "orphaned" and are available for adoption.

Craiova (Belkiralymezo, Canalu), Romania
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/dolj/Craiova.html
~~~


Literacy in Austria-Hungary (1880) - German language map #hungary

edelman@...
 

Hi,

Would appreciate some help with the following German-language map from=20
the Austro-Hungarian census >from 1880.

I am trying to find out if the "literacy" was only about German and=20
or/Hungarian (and what kind of German would it be -- I realize that they=20
are only considering reading AND writing) or any other language, even=20
Yiddish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Literacy_in_Austria-Hungary_(1880).JPG=20
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Literacy_in_Austria-Hungary_%281880%29=
.JPG>

I have already translated it and also picked out various phrases to=20
Google with in German, but no luck so far...

Thanks,
T

Todd Michael Edelman
California

Researching:
EDELMAN (Tokaj),
FRIEDMAN (Plavec/Palocsa/Tokaj),
KLEIN (P=FCsp=F6klad=E1ny, Debrecen),
KUNSZTLER/KUNSTLER (Budapest, P=FCsp=F6klad=E1ny,Ungvar/Uzhorod),
MALEK (Ruscova,Petrosani,Temesvar/Timisoara),
SUSHOLZ (Ungvar/Uzhorod)
WEISSBERGER (Medzilaborce)

<snip>
Skype: toddedelman

edelman@greenidea.eu


Hungary SIG #Hungary Literacy in Austria-Hungary (1880) - German language map #hungary

edelman@...
 

Hi,

Would appreciate some help with the following German-language map from=20
the Austro-Hungarian census >from 1880.

I am trying to find out if the "literacy" was only about German and=20
or/Hungarian (and what kind of German would it be -- I realize that they=20
are only considering reading AND writing) or any other language, even=20
Yiddish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Literacy_in_Austria-Hungary_(1880).JPG=20
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Literacy_in_Austria-Hungary_%281880%29=
.JPG>

I have already translated it and also picked out various phrases to=20
Google with in German, but no luck so far...

Thanks,
T

Todd Michael Edelman
California

Researching:
EDELMAN (Tokaj),
FRIEDMAN (Plavec/Palocsa/Tokaj),
KLEIN (P=FCsp=F6klad=E1ny, Debrecen),
KUNSZTLER/KUNSTLER (Budapest, P=FCsp=F6klad=E1ny,Ungvar/Uzhorod),
MALEK (Ruscova,Petrosani,Temesvar/Timisoara),
SUSHOLZ (Ungvar/Uzhorod)
WEISSBERGER (Medzilaborce)

<snip>
Skype: toddedelman

edelman@greenidea.eu


Forgotten Neighbors Exhibit at LAMOTH #hungary

E. Randol Schoenberg
 

An exhibit on the Jews of Papa, Hungary opens tonight at Los Angeles =
Museum of the Holocaust. Opening reception >from 6-9pm.
See http://www.lamoth.org, 100 S. The Grove Drive, Los Angeles, CA =
90036, tel: (323) 651-3706

6:00PM - 9:00PM
Forgotten Neighbors Exhibit Opening
Join us next Thursday November 7th at 6 PM for the opening of Forgotten =
Neighbors: Photographs >from the Jewish Community of P=E1pa, Hungary. In =
2010 Andr=E1s Gyekiczki, was eager to find out more about the people who =
had lived in P=E1pa, Hungary... before the war. He began to collect =
photographs of the survivors=92 descendants and documents related to the =
town=92s past. His team ultimately collected more than 500 photographs =
from the pre-war period. Forgotten Neighbors displays the richness of =
small town Jewish life through complete family stories. LAMOTH is =
pleased to host this amazing exhibit on its first journey outside of =
Hungary.


Randy Schoenberg
Los Angeles, CA=


Hungary SIG #Hungary Forgotten Neighbors Exhibit at LAMOTH #hungary

E. Randol Schoenberg
 

An exhibit on the Jews of Papa, Hungary opens tonight at Los Angeles =
Museum of the Holocaust. Opening reception >from 6-9pm.
See http://www.lamoth.org, 100 S. The Grove Drive, Los Angeles, CA =
90036, tel: (323) 651-3706

6:00PM - 9:00PM
Forgotten Neighbors Exhibit Opening
Join us next Thursday November 7th at 6 PM for the opening of Forgotten =
Neighbors: Photographs >from the Jewish Community of P=E1pa, Hungary. In =
2010 Andr=E1s Gyekiczki, was eager to find out more about the people who =
had lived in P=E1pa, Hungary... before the war. He began to collect =
photographs of the survivors=92 descendants and documents related to the =
town=92s past. His team ultimately collected more than 500 photographs =
from the pre-war period. Forgotten Neighbors displays the richness of =
small town Jewish life through complete family stories. LAMOTH is =
pleased to host this amazing exhibit on its first journey outside of =
Hungary.


Randy Schoenberg
Los Angeles, CA=


Information about shochets, mashgiachs #hungary

Jake Jacobs
 

Is there any compilation of information about shochets or masgiachs, either in the US or in Hungary? Several of my ancestors were shochets or mashgiachs, one in the U.S. (arrived Phila. 1887, immediately moved to Indianapolis); others in Hungary (one born Hernadszentandras 1847, worked as shochet probably in Celldomolk; another born Olaszliszka 1841, not sure where he worked, perhaps Olaszliszka). I have not found any documentation of their work itself, my information is based on oral family histories.

Does anybody have suggestions on where I might find documentation of any kind, other than censuses? Much appreciated --

Diane Jacobs
Austin, Texas
Researching Jacobs/Goldman/Goldstein/Hantman/Walsky/Alderman/Teicher/Altman/Davis/Gondos/Havas/Feuerlicht/Holics/Bleuer/Bleier/Planer/Hochvald/Friedman


Hungary SIG #Hungary Information about shochets, mashgiachs #hungary

Jake Jacobs
 

Is there any compilation of information about shochets or masgiachs, either in the US or in Hungary? Several of my ancestors were shochets or mashgiachs, one in the U.S. (arrived Phila. 1887, immediately moved to Indianapolis); others in Hungary (one born Hernadszentandras 1847, worked as shochet probably in Celldomolk; another born Olaszliszka 1841, not sure where he worked, perhaps Olaszliszka). I have not found any documentation of their work itself, my information is based on oral family histories.

Does anybody have suggestions on where I might find documentation of any kind, other than censuses? Much appreciated --

Diane Jacobs
Austin, Texas
Researching Jacobs/Goldman/Goldstein/Hantman/Walsky/Alderman/Teicher/Altman/Davis/Gondos/Havas/Feuerlicht/Holics/Bleuer/Bleier/Planer/Hochvald/Friedman


STERN (Kemecse) & HE'GER (Munkacs) #hungary

sankosy5@...
 

Hello -

I am helping a family friend, a Holocaust survivor, find out about her family history, She and her sister were teenagers in the camps and they lost their entire family. We are hoping to find out more about her ancestry, as well as any information about other family who perished. We managed to learn some things >from our wonderful H-SIG anfd JewishGen databases, but perhaps someone knows more.

Her father's side is STERN, >from Kemecse and Nyiregyha'za in the Szabolcs-Szatmar-Bereg part of the country. Father was Ferenc, 1900 - 1944, and he had a brother Moricz, born in 1907. Ferenc's parents were Farkas STERN (1875 - 1944) and Betty KLEIN (1880 - 1944, >from Kemecse). Farkas had siblings:

Regi (b. 1877)
Ignatz (b. 1879)
Samu (b. 1880)
Aranka (b & d 1886)

Their parents were Fabian STERN (1811 - 1885) and Pepi Rubenstein.

My friend`s mother was Hele`n He`ger, born 1894 in Munkacs, and was murdered in 1944. The only other thing that we know is that her mother was Lea.

If any of this sounds familiar, please let me know.

As well, I`m wondering if travelling village photographers kept copies of their pictures. My father`s grandparents in southern Hungary had their photos taken by a photographer who went around each year to re-create wedding photos and such. I thought that perhaps there was a slim chance of something remaining >from Kemecse, as our friend has no photos of any of her past family.

Thank you to you all.

Michele Sankar
Ontario


Hungary SIG #Hungary STERN (Kemecse) & HE'GER (Munkacs) #hungary

sankosy5@...
 

Hello -

I am helping a family friend, a Holocaust survivor, find out about her family history, She and her sister were teenagers in the camps and they lost their entire family. We are hoping to find out more about her ancestry, as well as any information about other family who perished. We managed to learn some things >from our wonderful H-SIG anfd JewishGen databases, but perhaps someone knows more.

Her father's side is STERN, >from Kemecse and Nyiregyha'za in the Szabolcs-Szatmar-Bereg part of the country. Father was Ferenc, 1900 - 1944, and he had a brother Moricz, born in 1907. Ferenc's parents were Farkas STERN (1875 - 1944) and Betty KLEIN (1880 - 1944, >from Kemecse). Farkas had siblings:

Regi (b. 1877)
Ignatz (b. 1879)
Samu (b. 1880)
Aranka (b & d 1886)

Their parents were Fabian STERN (1811 - 1885) and Pepi Rubenstein.

My friend`s mother was Hele`n He`ger, born 1894 in Munkacs, and was murdered in 1944. The only other thing that we know is that her mother was Lea.

If any of this sounds familiar, please let me know.

As well, I`m wondering if travelling village photographers kept copies of their pictures. My father`s grandparents in southern Hungary had their photos taken by a photographer who went around each year to re-create wedding photos and such. I thought that perhaps there was a slim chance of something remaining >from Kemecse, as our friend has no photos of any of her past family.

Thank you to you all.

Michele Sankar
Ontario


Re: Help reading a Hungarian marriage record #hungary

klein.laszlo@...
 

Dear Todd,

I can't read exactly only one family name.

Date of marriage: 1937. 12. 21. (21-DEC-1937)
Bernát Dezsõ, kereskedelmi 1212973405 (commercial/merchant employee,
(religion: izr.)
born: Klárafalva, 1907. 04. 23. (23-APR-1907)
address: Debrecen, 17 Nagyvárad street (or only number 7? not, that is 17.)
parents: Bernát Salamon, Weisss Karolina

Klein Erzsébet (religion: izr.)
born: Püspökladány, 1907. 01. 26. (26-JAN-1907)
location: Debrecen, 45 Arany János street
parents: Klein Ernõ, ... Hermina (? Klinstber or Keinslber?)

witnesses: Vágó Sándor, Debrecen, 18 Csapó street
Reich Lajos, Debrecen, 27 Arany János street

Best wishes,
Laszlo Klein


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Help reading a Hungarian marriage record #hungary

klein.laszlo@...
 

Dear Todd,

I can't read exactly only one family name.

Date of marriage: 1937. 12. 21. (21-DEC-1937)
Bernát Dezsõ, kereskedelmi 1212973405 (commercial/merchant employee,
(religion: izr.)
born: Klárafalva, 1907. 04. 23. (23-APR-1907)
address: Debrecen, 17 Nagyvárad street (or only number 7? not, that is 17.)
parents: Bernát Salamon, Weisss Karolina

Klein Erzsébet (religion: izr.)
born: Püspökladány, 1907. 01. 26. (26-JAN-1907)
location: Debrecen, 45 Arany János street
parents: Klein Ernõ, ... Hermina (? Klinstber or Keinslber?)

witnesses: Vágó Sándor, Debrecen, 18 Csapó street
Reich Lajos, Debrecen, 27 Arany János street

Best wishes,
Laszlo Klein


Help reading a Hungarian marriage record (end of thread) #hungary

edelman@...
 

Hi again,

The following has been answered in full thanks to Eli Stark and Beth Long=
.

This is the marriage record for my great-aunt and her husband in=20
Debrecen in 1937[...]

--=20
Todd Michael Edelman
California

Researching: EDELMAN (Tokaj),FRIEDMAN (Plavec/Palocsa), WEISSBERGER=20
(Medzilaborce), KLEIN (P=FCsp=F6klad=E1ny, Debrecen), MALEK=20
(Ruscova,Petrosani,Temesvar/Timisoara), KUNSZTLER (Budapest,=20
P=FCsp=F6klad=E1ny,Ungvar/Uzhorod), SUSHOLZ (Ungvar/Uzhorod)

Voice/Text: 415 867 9843
Skype: toddedelman

edelman@greenidea.eu


Hungary SIG #Hungary Help reading a Hungarian marriage record (end of thread) #hungary

edelman@...
 

Hi again,

The following has been answered in full thanks to Eli Stark and Beth Long=
.

This is the marriage record for my great-aunt and her husband in=20
Debrecen in 1937[...]

--=20
Todd Michael Edelman
California

Researching: EDELMAN (Tokaj),FRIEDMAN (Plavec/Palocsa), WEISSBERGER=20
(Medzilaborce), KLEIN (P=FCsp=F6klad=E1ny, Debrecen), MALEK=20
(Ruscova,Petrosani,Temesvar/Timisoara), KUNSZTLER (Budapest,=20
P=FCsp=F6klad=E1ny,Ungvar/Uzhorod), SUSHOLZ (Ungvar/Uzhorod)

Voice/Text: 415 867 9843
Skype: toddedelman

edelman@greenidea.eu


Re: Looking for Horowitz in Bessarabia #bessarabia

Harvey Horowitz <harmel@...>
 

Dear Yefim,

Thanks so much for your reply. It is greatly appreciated.

Re: Leyb dated in 1885 and his father Yankel. Leyb was married to Rakhlya
Grinshpun. He was in fact married to Chinka Kisliuk but thanks for the info.

I was doing many searches using Horowitz and Gurovitch.
I just tried Gorovitz and think I may have found several family members that
appear to be a match.

FYI I heard back >from several people re my post and ended up hiring
researcher Alla Chastina. I am hopeful that she will be able to help me.

I would love to help with some translation but only speak English and
French.

Thanks again for your help and the help of Bessarabia Sig

Harvey Horowitz

-----Original Message-----
From: Yefim Kogan [mailto:yefimk@verizon.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 9:52 AM
To: 'Harvey Horowitz'; 'Bessarabia SIG'
Subject: RE: Looking for Horowitz in Bessarabia

Dear Harvey,

We have translated only a small portion of records >from Orgeev, which is by
the way in Bessarabia, and in 1865 was definitely in Bessarabia, Russia.
You can find information about this town at our website, possible some
stories, memoirs.

With limited information I looked into JewishGen and found a marriage of
GOROVITS Leyb dated in 1885 and his father Yankel. Leyb was married to
Rakhlya Grinshpun. It gives also some additional information.

GOROVITS and HOROVITS are the same surnames (used in different
countries/languages).

Harvey, if you can help with translation of Revision lists for Orgeev, you
can possible find records >from 1854, 1848...

All the best,

Yefim Kogan
Bessarabia SIG Coordinator
Researching KOGAN, SPIVAK, KHAYMOVICH, SRULEVICH, LEVIT in Kaushany,
Bendery, Tarutino, Akkerman, Kiliya - all in Bessarabia, KHAIMOVICH in
Galatz, Romania, KOGAN in Dubossary, Moldova, SRULEVICH in Shanghai, China

-----Original Message-----
From: Harvey Horowitz [mailto:harmel@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2013 1:46 PM
To: Bessarabia SIG
Subject: Looking for Horowitz in Bessarabia

My grandfather Fred "Froim" HOROWITZ (1885) emigrated to Montreal from
Kishinev with his wife Sarah Malus in approx 1905.
His father Label Harovitz (1865) was >from Orgieve, Romania and the son of
Yankel Harovitz circa 1845…………...
If anyone can advise me on how to research my family, I would greatly
appreciated it.

Thanks

Harvey Horowitz
Montreal, Canada


Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia RE: Looking for Horowitz in Bessarabia #bessarabia

Harvey Horowitz <harmel@...>
 

Dear Yefim,

Thanks so much for your reply. It is greatly appreciated.

Re: Leyb dated in 1885 and his father Yankel. Leyb was married to Rakhlya
Grinshpun. He was in fact married to Chinka Kisliuk but thanks for the info.

I was doing many searches using Horowitz and Gurovitch.
I just tried Gorovitz and think I may have found several family members that
appear to be a match.

FYI I heard back >from several people re my post and ended up hiring
researcher Alla Chastina. I am hopeful that she will be able to help me.

I would love to help with some translation but only speak English and
French.

Thanks again for your help and the help of Bessarabia Sig

Harvey Horowitz

-----Original Message-----
From: Yefim Kogan [mailto:yefimk@verizon.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 9:52 AM
To: 'Harvey Horowitz'; 'Bessarabia SIG'
Subject: RE: Looking for Horowitz in Bessarabia

Dear Harvey,

We have translated only a small portion of records >from Orgeev, which is by
the way in Bessarabia, and in 1865 was definitely in Bessarabia, Russia.
You can find information about this town at our website, possible some
stories, memoirs.

With limited information I looked into JewishGen and found a marriage of
GOROVITS Leyb dated in 1885 and his father Yankel. Leyb was married to
Rakhlya Grinshpun. It gives also some additional information.

GOROVITS and HOROVITS are the same surnames (used in different
countries/languages).

Harvey, if you can help with translation of Revision lists for Orgeev, you
can possible find records >from 1854, 1848...

All the best,

Yefim Kogan
Bessarabia SIG Coordinator
Researching KOGAN, SPIVAK, KHAYMOVICH, SRULEVICH, LEVIT in Kaushany,
Bendery, Tarutino, Akkerman, Kiliya - all in Bessarabia, KHAIMOVICH in
Galatz, Romania, KOGAN in Dubossary, Moldova, SRULEVICH in Shanghai, China

-----Original Message-----
From: Harvey Horowitz [mailto:harmel@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2013 1:46 PM
To: Bessarabia SIG
Subject: Looking for Horowitz in Bessarabia

My grandfather Fred "Froim" HOROWITZ (1885) emigrated to Montreal from
Kishinev with his wife Sarah Malus in approx 1905.
His father Label Harovitz (1865) was >from Orgieve, Romania and the son of
Yankel Harovitz circa 1845…………...
If anyone can advise me on how to research my family, I would greatly
appreciated it.

Thanks

Harvey Horowitz
Montreal, Canada


JGSLA - Monday, Nov. 18 - "Beyond the Manifest" with Emily Garber #general

Pamela Weisberger
 

Researchers are invited to the next program of the Jewish Genealogical
Society of Los Angeles:

"Beyond the Manifest: Confirming One's Ancestral Origins Using
Alternative Sources" with Emily Garber

Monday, November 18th at 7:30PM
Valley Beth Shalom Synagogue
15739 Ventura Blvd. Encino

When several communities in Eastern Europe have similar names, which
often have been changed over the years, it may be difficult to
unambiguously identify one's family's shtetl of origin. Considering
the investment in time and energy in researching one's shtetl, it is
imperative to get it right. The genealogical proof standard requires
rigor in our research methodology. With its application and a
well-designed research plan, we assure that our findings are robust
and our conclusions not easily challenged. Emily Garber will discuss
how to improve your methodology, along with suggesting different
genealogical sources and creative searching techniques. In addition
to traditional methods, she'll cover other resources like
landsmanshaften burial data, online archival material, and the Shoah
Names database with the goal of providing tools and methods for
confirming the location of ones family shtetls and adding new records
to your family tree.

Emily Garber has been an active member of the Phoenix Jewish
Genealogical Society for several years, currently serves as one of the
moderators for the JewishGen Discussion Group and is the
communications director for Ukraine Special Interest Group.

The JGSLA Traveling Library will be available starting at 7:00PM -
Members free, guests $5.00. Refereshments served.

Pamela Weisberger
JGSLA Program Chair
pweisberger@gmail.com
www.jgsla.org


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGSLA - Monday, Nov. 18 - "Beyond the Manifest" with Emily Garber #general

Pamela Weisberger
 

Researchers are invited to the next program of the Jewish Genealogical
Society of Los Angeles:

"Beyond the Manifest: Confirming One's Ancestral Origins Using
Alternative Sources" with Emily Garber

Monday, November 18th at 7:30PM
Valley Beth Shalom Synagogue
15739 Ventura Blvd. Encino

When several communities in Eastern Europe have similar names, which
often have been changed over the years, it may be difficult to
unambiguously identify one's family's shtetl of origin. Considering
the investment in time and energy in researching one's shtetl, it is
imperative to get it right. The genealogical proof standard requires
rigor in our research methodology. With its application and a
well-designed research plan, we assure that our findings are robust
and our conclusions not easily challenged. Emily Garber will discuss
how to improve your methodology, along with suggesting different
genealogical sources and creative searching techniques. In addition
to traditional methods, she'll cover other resources like
landsmanshaften burial data, online archival material, and the Shoah
Names database with the goal of providing tools and methods for
confirming the location of ones family shtetls and adding new records
to your family tree.

Emily Garber has been an active member of the Phoenix Jewish
Genealogical Society for several years, currently serves as one of the
moderators for the JewishGen Discussion Group and is the
communications director for Ukraine Special Interest Group.

The JGSLA Traveling Library will be available starting at 7:00PM -
Members free, guests $5.00. Refereshments served.

Pamela Weisberger
JGSLA Program Chair
pweisberger@gmail.com
www.jgsla.org


ViewMate translation request - Russian (Cyrillic) **Not** Polish #general

Sarah Lasry <srhlsr@...>
 

I recently posted vital records in Russian, for which I need a loose
translation.

My apologies- I thought that they were in Polish! I've been informed by
kind JewishGenners that the documents are in Russian!!

They are on ViewMate at the following addresses ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM29824
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM29825
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM29826
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM29827
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM29828

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.

Sarah Lasry
Israel
srhlsr@aim.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate translation request - Russian (Cyrillic) **Not** Polish #general

Sarah Lasry <srhlsr@...>
 

I recently posted vital records in Russian, for which I need a loose
translation.

My apologies- I thought that they were in Polish! I've been informed by
kind JewishGenners that the documents are in Russian!!

They are on ViewMate at the following addresses ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM29824
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM29825
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM29826
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM29827
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM29828

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.

Sarah Lasry
Israel
srhlsr@aim.com

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