Date   

Announcement of Austrian Military Honours #hungary

Shulamit
 

Were WWI medals, decorations, promotions in the Austro-Hungarian forces =
announced in some official publication? Can one access such =
announcements online?

Shulamit SPAIN, Scotland


Hungary SIG #Hungary Announcement of Austrian Military Honours #hungary

Shulamit
 

Were WWI medals, decorations, promotions in the Austro-Hungarian forces =
announced in some official publication? Can one access such =
announcements online?

Shulamit SPAIN, Scotland


Claims Conference Hungary Search Results and Source Records #hungary

Aaron Slotnik
 

Hello,

Upon doing a search in the JewishGen All Hungary Database, I unexpectedly found records for relatives that I had been unable to find anything about previously. The records came up in the 'Claims Conference, Hungary' data set (http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/holocaust/0134_Hungarian_claims.html).


I then learned that the source files (codes 66 and 156) where my relatives are listed are held at the Central Zionist Archives (CZA). Has anyone on the list had a similar experience and actually requested the source material >from CZA? If so, what is the procedure and what was your experience? Although I'm not sure what I'll find, I want to procure copies of the source material, but want to follow the right process and learn >from those who have already done so.


If you had relatives who lived in greater Hungary (mine lived in what is now Slovakia) prior to the Holocaust, but have been unable to locate anything about them in the Yad Vashem Names Database or elsewhere, I suggest checking this resource.


Regards,
Aaron Slotnik
Chicago, IL


WOROSHILSKY - Bialystok area, Poland
GOLDBERG, KATZ - Dabrowa Bialostocka, Poland
ZLOTNIK, RZEZNIK - Warsaw area, Poland
SCHAPIRA - Jagielnica and Horodenka, Ukraine
BLUMENTHAL, KANTOR - Borshchiv, Husiatyn and Horodenka, Ukraine
BLUM, KATZ, MARTON, ELKOVITS, VAISZ, SAMUEL - Salaj, Satu Mare, and Maramures Counties, Romania


Hungary SIG #Hungary Claims Conference Hungary Search Results and Source Records #hungary

Aaron Slotnik
 

Hello,

Upon doing a search in the JewishGen All Hungary Database, I unexpectedly found records for relatives that I had been unable to find anything about previously. The records came up in the 'Claims Conference, Hungary' data set (http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/holocaust/0134_Hungarian_claims.html).


I then learned that the source files (codes 66 and 156) where my relatives are listed are held at the Central Zionist Archives (CZA). Has anyone on the list had a similar experience and actually requested the source material >from CZA? If so, what is the procedure and what was your experience? Although I'm not sure what I'll find, I want to procure copies of the source material, but want to follow the right process and learn >from those who have already done so.


If you had relatives who lived in greater Hungary (mine lived in what is now Slovakia) prior to the Holocaust, but have been unable to locate anything about them in the Yad Vashem Names Database or elsewhere, I suggest checking this resource.


Regards,
Aaron Slotnik
Chicago, IL


WOROSHILSKY - Bialystok area, Poland
GOLDBERG, KATZ - Dabrowa Bialostocka, Poland
ZLOTNIK, RZEZNIK - Warsaw area, Poland
SCHAPIRA - Jagielnica and Horodenka, Ukraine
BLUMENTHAL, KANTOR - Borshchiv, Husiatyn and Horodenka, Ukraine
BLUM, KATZ, MARTON, ELKOVITS, VAISZ, SAMUEL - Salaj, Satu Mare, and Maramures Counties, Romania


19th Century Jewellers follow-up #unitedkingdom

Michael Shade
 

Dear friends,

Many thanks to those of you who responded to my post of a couple of =
weeks ago, enquiring about a number of inter-connected families engaged =
in the jewellery trade in southern England in the mid-19th Century. =
You've suggested a number of ideas to pursue, and there are one =
or two possible family links as well! I have tried to write back to you =
all, apologies if I've missed anyone.=20

The families are Frankenstein, Barnett, Barnard, Joel and Leapman, and =
I've found them variously in Brighton, Portsea, Chichester, =
Merthyr, and Falmouth, as well as Bristol, Oxford, Hastings and London. =
There's also a possible Liverpool connection for Barnett. Some =
of them went to the USA, and I have tried to find out what became of =
them there, If you're interested, you can see the story so far =
in a post I've just written:

Who was Isaac Frankenstein? - http://bit.ly/whowasIsaacFrankenstein

A good indication of the strength of the links between these families is =
the multiple intermarriages between them, especially in Brighton, eg:

Isaac Frankenstein m Kate Barnett 1853
Woolf Barnett m Rachel Joel 1860
Samuel Leapman m Priscilla Joel 1861

Woolf and Kate are brother and sister, Rachel and Priscilla are sisters. =
Meanwhile, in 1858 in Bristol, Samuel's brother Lewis Leapman =
married Miriam Joel, >from a different but possibly connected Joel =
family.

And on their marriage certificate in 1853, Isaac Frankenstein and Kate =
Barnett, both living in Portsea in the 1851 Census, both gave the Joel =
family residence in Brighton as their home address. Most of the men in =
all of these families are recorded as jewellers, across several =
generations.

I'm hoping to go into more detail on these connections in a =
later post. And if anyone knows anything about Gordon Leapman, born 1840 =
in Whitechapel, and later found in Brighton, Leeds, Manchester, =
Stockport and Salford and possibly other places - please get in touch!

Best wishes,

Michael
--------------------
Michael Shade
Brighton, UK
michael@michalska.net
http://http://twentyone-seven.blogspot.co.uk/

Researching: SCHREIBMAN (Pinsk); ILYUTOVICH (Lida, Novogrudok, Gomel); =
ZATURENSKY (Nesvizh ?); LEVIN (Streshin, Gomel); FRANKENSTEIN (Gombin, =
Plock); FINKELSTEIN (Gombin, Tel Aviv); ZEGELMAN (Slubice); KOHN =
(Nadarzyn); IGLA (Nadarzyn); WAKSMAN (Demblin-Irena, =
Gniewoszow-Granica); SZECHTMAN (Bobrowniki); GLASMAN, GLUZMAN =
(Demblin-Irena); LENDENBAUM (Bobrowniki); ELBSZTAJN (Bobrowniki); =
EJZENSTADT (Gniewoszow-Granica); LEFSHITZ (Zhuravichy); ALIEVSKY =
(Zhuravichy); SZWARC (Gombin, Panama, New Jersey), SCHWARTZ (London, =
Leeds); RAJN (Gombin); BOLL (Gombin); MANCZIK (Gombin); FEIGENBAUM =
(Mlawa); WANDT (Gostynin); SZCZAWINSKA (Gombin); WAYNBERG (London); =
FLORKIEWICZ (Gombin, USA); CHERN (Poland)


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom 19th Century Jewellers follow-up #unitedkingdom

Michael Shade
 

Dear friends,

Many thanks to those of you who responded to my post of a couple of =
weeks ago, enquiring about a number of inter-connected families engaged =
in the jewellery trade in southern England in the mid-19th Century. =
You've suggested a number of ideas to pursue, and there are one =
or two possible family links as well! I have tried to write back to you =
all, apologies if I've missed anyone.=20

The families are Frankenstein, Barnett, Barnard, Joel and Leapman, and =
I've found them variously in Brighton, Portsea, Chichester, =
Merthyr, and Falmouth, as well as Bristol, Oxford, Hastings and London. =
There's also a possible Liverpool connection for Barnett. Some =
of them went to the USA, and I have tried to find out what became of =
them there, If you're interested, you can see the story so far =
in a post I've just written:

Who was Isaac Frankenstein? - http://bit.ly/whowasIsaacFrankenstein

A good indication of the strength of the links between these families is =
the multiple intermarriages between them, especially in Brighton, eg:

Isaac Frankenstein m Kate Barnett 1853
Woolf Barnett m Rachel Joel 1860
Samuel Leapman m Priscilla Joel 1861

Woolf and Kate are brother and sister, Rachel and Priscilla are sisters. =
Meanwhile, in 1858 in Bristol, Samuel's brother Lewis Leapman =
married Miriam Joel, >from a different but possibly connected Joel =
family.

And on their marriage certificate in 1853, Isaac Frankenstein and Kate =
Barnett, both living in Portsea in the 1851 Census, both gave the Joel =
family residence in Brighton as their home address. Most of the men in =
all of these families are recorded as jewellers, across several =
generations.

I'm hoping to go into more detail on these connections in a =
later post. And if anyone knows anything about Gordon Leapman, born 1840 =
in Whitechapel, and later found in Brighton, Leeds, Manchester, =
Stockport and Salford and possibly other places - please get in touch!

Best wishes,

Michael
--------------------
Michael Shade
Brighton, UK
michael@michalska.net
http://http://twentyone-seven.blogspot.co.uk/

Researching: SCHREIBMAN (Pinsk); ILYUTOVICH (Lida, Novogrudok, Gomel); =
ZATURENSKY (Nesvizh ?); LEVIN (Streshin, Gomel); FRANKENSTEIN (Gombin, =
Plock); FINKELSTEIN (Gombin, Tel Aviv); ZEGELMAN (Slubice); KOHN =
(Nadarzyn); IGLA (Nadarzyn); WAKSMAN (Demblin-Irena, =
Gniewoszow-Granica); SZECHTMAN (Bobrowniki); GLASMAN, GLUZMAN =
(Demblin-Irena); LENDENBAUM (Bobrowniki); ELBSZTAJN (Bobrowniki); =
EJZENSTADT (Gniewoszow-Granica); LEFSHITZ (Zhuravichy); ALIEVSKY =
(Zhuravichy); SZWARC (Gombin, Panama, New Jersey), SCHWARTZ (London, =
Leeds); RAJN (Gombin); BOLL (Gombin); MANCZIK (Gombin); FEIGENBAUM =
(Mlawa); WANDT (Gostynin); SZCZAWINSKA (Gombin); WAYNBERG (London); =
FLORKIEWICZ (Gombin, USA); CHERN (Poland)


Re: Juda Loeb OPPENHEIM #general

Roger Lustig
 

If you mean Unterschuepf, it's a village that's now part of Boxberg--but
in northern Baden, about 150 km SE of Frankfurt/Main and nowhere near
Frankfurt/Oder. Baden's Jews adopted surnames in 1809, and David Loeb
OPPENHEIMER of Unterschuepf was among them. There are/were two other
Boxbergs in Germany, but neither one is near any place with a name like
Unterschuetz.

Why choose that surname? Hard to say. Most of the ROTHSCHILDs in Germany
weren't related to the famous Frankfurt family, either, nor most
WERTHEIM[ER]s to the great rabbi, as far as anyone knows. In any event,
Jews in 30 towns in Baden chose OPPENHEIM[ER] in 1809.

Roger Lustig
Princeton, NJ USA

On 11/17/2015 9:16 AM, Eva Karoline Lawrence eva.lawrence@idnet.com wrote:
I have relatives in the village of Unterschuetz, (Postamt Boxberg),
which is nearer to Frankfurt-an-der Oder than Frankfurt-an-Main.
Before about 1848 they are recorded with patronymics and after that
date they use the name Oppenheim. I haven't found out why they chose
this surname, but I have no reason to suppose that they are related
to the Frankfurt family.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Juda Loeb OPPENHEIM #general

Roger Lustig
 

If you mean Unterschuepf, it's a village that's now part of Boxberg--but
in northern Baden, about 150 km SE of Frankfurt/Main and nowhere near
Frankfurt/Oder. Baden's Jews adopted surnames in 1809, and David Loeb
OPPENHEIMER of Unterschuepf was among them. There are/were two other
Boxbergs in Germany, but neither one is near any place with a name like
Unterschuetz.

Why choose that surname? Hard to say. Most of the ROTHSCHILDs in Germany
weren't related to the famous Frankfurt family, either, nor most
WERTHEIM[ER]s to the great rabbi, as far as anyone knows. In any event,
Jews in 30 towns in Baden chose OPPENHEIM[ER] in 1809.

Roger Lustig
Princeton, NJ USA

On 11/17/2015 9:16 AM, Eva Karoline Lawrence eva.lawrence@idnet.com wrote:
I have relatives in the village of Unterschuetz, (Postamt Boxberg),
which is nearer to Frankfurt-an-der Oder than Frankfurt-an-Main.
Before about 1848 they are recorded with patronymics and after that
date they use the name Oppenheim. I haven't found out why they chose
this surname, but I have no reason to suppose that they are related
to the Frankfurt family.


Edelman in Kraziai #lithuania

Di Edelman <diedelman@...>
 

We are searching for the Edelman family >from Kraziai.

We know that Leib Edelman came to Australia with two of his sons
on the Cuzco in 1888 & his wife, Zipah Wachman brought the rest
of the children in 1890.

Any information would be really helpful.

Thank you

David & Di Edelman

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately with family information.
Suggestions for research methods or resources may be shared with
the list.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Edelman in Kraziai #lithuania

Di Edelman <diedelman@...>
 

We are searching for the Edelman family >from Kraziai.

We know that Leib Edelman came to Australia with two of his sons
on the Cuzco in 1888 & his wife, Zipah Wachman brought the rest
of the children in 1890.

Any information would be really helpful.

Thank you

David & Di Edelman

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately with family information.
Suggestions for research methods or resources may be shared with
the list.


Birth certificate issuing #poland

Ariel K <arielvfu@...>
 

We are looking for a death certificate of our grandmother >from Lodz
who was born prior to WW2 and the parents did not list her birth there
(according to USC and the archive), was it possible in Poland to write
a birth NOT in the city of actual birth? meaning that if after the war
they have arrived at Szczecin could they legally issue a birth
certificate there for the 8 year old child (which was not actually
born there) or it was not allowed?

thank you
Ariel Kubi


JRI Poland #Poland Birth certificate issuing #poland

Ariel K <arielvfu@...>
 

We are looking for a death certificate of our grandmother >from Lodz
who was born prior to WW2 and the parents did not list her birth there
(according to USC and the archive), was it possible in Poland to write
a birth NOT in the city of actual birth? meaning that if after the war
they have arrived at Szczecin could they legally issue a birth
certificate there for the 8 year old child (which was not actually
born there) or it was not allowed?

thank you
Ariel Kubi


Possible talk on DNA - looking for ' a show of hands ' before proceeding further #unitedkingdom

Raymond Montanjees
 

Dear membership of JGSGB

The Society has been offered an American speaker, willing to give a talk
entitled ' Jewish Genetic Genealogy - A Study in Endogamy '. If you are
interested and I receive a worthwhile response - I will endeavour to glean him.
The only ' hurdle ' are the two offered dates - the 15th or 16th of Feb
2016. A Monday and a Tuesday. Also, the (London) location, has yet to be
decided. It will depend on numbers.

Thank you.

Regards,

PROGRAMME COMMITTEE


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Possible talk on DNA - looking for ' a show of hands ' before proceeding further #unitedkingdom

Raymond Montanjees
 

Dear membership of JGSGB

The Society has been offered an American speaker, willing to give a talk
entitled ' Jewish Genetic Genealogy - A Study in Endogamy '. If you are
interested and I receive a worthwhile response - I will endeavour to glean him.
The only ' hurdle ' are the two offered dates - the 15th or 16th of Feb
2016. A Monday and a Tuesday. Also, the (London) location, has yet to be
decided. It will depend on numbers.

Thank you.

Regards,

PROGRAMME COMMITTEE


Re: frenchsig digest: November 14, 2015 #france

Congrès Paris 2012 Généaloj
 

Thank you very much
As stated in the motto of Paris, "fluctuat nec mergitur"!
Anne Lifshitz-Krams
CGJ- Paris

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French SIG #France Re: frenchsig digest: November 14, 2015 #france

Congrès Paris 2012 Généaloj
 

Thank you very much
As stated in the motto of Paris, "fluctuat nec mergitur"!
Anne Lifshitz-Krams
CGJ- Paris

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SEARCHING THE NAME NORFLUS-NURFLUS #france

chandidevi@...
 

Hello,

I am looking for any information on the NORFLUS-NURFLUS family history in France.

Norflus-Nurflus family members immigrated to France >from Poland in the early 1800's, possibly before that.
Also, we think they may have emigrated >from other places than Poland.

We know there were family members living there as late as 2006, but we have no information.

If anyone knows or has any information on the Norflus-Nurflus family in France, I would appreciate hearing >from you with anything you might know.

Thank you,
Ellie Norflus


French SIG #France SEARCHING THE NAME NORFLUS-NURFLUS #france

chandidevi@...
 

Hello,

I am looking for any information on the NORFLUS-NURFLUS family history in France.

Norflus-Nurflus family members immigrated to France >from Poland in the early 1800's, possibly before that.
Also, we think they may have emigrated >from other places than Poland.

We know there were family members living there as late as 2006, but we have no information.

If anyone knows or has any information on the Norflus-Nurflus family in France, I would appreciate hearing >from you with anything you might know.

Thank you,
Ellie Norflus


KREMER and ROSENFELD of Szatmar, Transilvania #hungary

steinhardt@...
 

I have been unsuccessful so far in finding information about my
maternal grandparents Ignatz and Sarah (Sarai) Kremer of Szatmar.
Sarah's maiden name was Rosenfeld.
I presume that they were born in Marmoros and lived in Szatmar where
their children were born.
They both died before 1932.
Ignatz Kremer was a tailor in Szatmar.

Any directions on how and where to search will be appreciated.

I also would like to know what happened to their children during the Holoca=
ust.

Thank you
Inacio Steinhardt
inacio@steinhardts.com

Moderator: Have you checked the JewishGen Hungary Database at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Hungary/ ? I searched for KREMER Ignatz with
Szatmar as Any Field and found several birth and death records for their children.
The records were indexed >from images the Hungarian SIG acquired of registers in
the Romanian State Archives in Satu Mare. Note that Sarah is identified as Szali
or Sali, which was her secular name. You should try searching for ROSENFELD as
well. If you know for a fact that they were originally >from Maramaros you should
search for KREMER and ROSENFELD with Maramaros entered in Any Field. Please use
upper case for all surnames as indicated in revised Subject Line.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Fwd: KREMER and ROSENFELD of Szatmar, Transilvania #hungary

steinhardt@...
 

I have been unsuccessful so far in finding information about my
maternal grandparents Ignatz and Sarah (Sarai) Kremer of Szatmar.
Sarah's maiden name was Rosenfeld.
I presume that they were born in Marmoros and lived in Szatmar where
their children were born.
They both died before 1932.
Ignatz Kremer was a tailor in Szatmar.

Any directions on how and where to search will be appreciated.

I also would like to know what happened to their children during the Holoca=
ust.

Thank you
Inacio Steinhardt
inacio@steinhardts.com

Moderator: Have you checked the JewishGen Hungary Database at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Hungary/ ? I searched for KREMER Ignatz with
Szatmar as Any Field and found several birth and death records for their children.
The records were indexed >from images the Hungarian SIG acquired of registers in
the Romanian State Archives in Satu Mare. Note that Sarah is identified as Szali
or Sali, which was her secular name. You should try searching for ROSENFELD as
well. If you know for a fact that they were originally >from Maramaros you should
search for KREMER and ROSENFELD with Maramaros entered in Any Field. Please use
upper case for all surnames as indicated in revised Subject Line.

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