JewishGen.org Discussion Group FAQs
What is the JewishGen.org Discussion Group?
The JewishGen.org Discussion Group unites thousands of Jewish genealogical researchers worldwide as they research their family history, search for relatives, and share information, ideas, methods, tips, techniques, and resources. The JewishGen.org Discussion Group makes it easy, quick, and fun, to connect with others around the world.
Is it Secure?
Yes. JewishGen is using a state of the art platform with the most contemporary security standards. JewishGen will never share member information with third parties.
How is the New JewishGen.org Discussion Group better than the old one?
Our old Discussion List platform was woefully antiquated. Among its many challenges: it was not secure, it required messages to be sent in Plain Text, did not support accented characters or languages other than English, could not display links or images, and had archives that were not mobile-friendly.
This new platform that JewishGen is using is a scalable, and sustainable solution, and allows us to engage with JewishGen members throughout the world. It offers a simple and intuitive interface for both members and moderators, more powerful tools, and more secure archives (which are easily accessible on mobile devices, and which also block out personal email addresses to the public).
I am a JewishGen member, why do I have to create a separate account for the Discussion Group?
As we continue to modernize our platform, we are trying to ensure that everything meets contemporary security standards. In the future, we plan hope to have one single sign-in page.
I like how the current lists work. Will I still be able to send/receive emails of posts (and/or digests)?
Yes. In terms of functionality, the group will operate the same for people who like to participate with email. People can still send a message to an email address (in this case, main@groups.JewishGen.org), and receive a daily digest of postings, or individual emails. In addition, Members can also receive a daily summary of topics, and then choose which topics they would like to read about it. However, in addition to email, there is the additional functionality of being able to read/post messages utilizing our online forum (https://groups.jewishgen.org).
Does this new system require plain-text?
No.
Can I post images, accented characters, different colors/font sizes, non-latin characters?
Yes.
Can I categorize a message? For example, if my message is related to Polish, or Ukraine research, can I indicate as such?
Yes! Our new platform allows members to use “Hashtags.” Messages can then be sorted, and searched, based upon how they are categorized. Another advantage is that members can “mute” any conversations they are not interested in, by simply indicating they are not interested in a particular “hashtag.”
Will all posts be archived?
Yes.
Can I still search though old messages?
Yes. All the messages are accessible and searchable going back to 1998.
What if I have questions or need assistance using the new Group?
Send your questions to: support@JewishGen.org
How do I access the Group’s webpage?
Follow this link: https://groups.jewishgen.org/g/main
So just to be sure - this new group will allow us to post from our mobile phones, includes images, accented characters, and non-latin characters, and does not require plain text?
Correct!
Will there be any ads or annoying pop-ups?
No.
Will the current guidelines change?
Yes. While posts will be moderated to ensure civility, and that there is nothing posted that is inappropriate (or completely unrelated to genealogy), we will be trying to create an online community of people who regulate themselves, much as they do (very successfully) on Jewish Genealogy Portal on Facebook.
What are the new guidelines?
There are just a few simple rules & guidelines to follow, which you can read here:https://groups.jewishgen.org/g/main/guidelines
Thank you in advance for contributing to this amazing online community!
If you have any questions, or suggestions, please email support@JewishGen.org.
Sincerely,
The JewishGen.org Team
|
Re: telephone directory in budapest
#hungary
You can browse and search some of the directories here:
http://library.hungaricana.hu/en/collection/fszek_budapesti_czim_es_lakasjegyzek/ On 25 April 2016 at 19:57, Renato Mannheimer renato@... <h-sig@...> wrote: Is there a website where old telephone directories for budapest are listed?
|
|
|
|
Budapest Telephone Directory
#hungary
pinardpr@...
Dear H-Sig,
Renato Mannheimer asked about an on-line site with Budapest telephone directories. I don't know of any such site on-line apart >from this one on archive.org, which is for the Hungarian telephone network outside of Budapest, however: https://archive.org/details/AVidekiHalozatokBeturendesTavbeszeloNevsora1943 It seems to have all the pages, but it is not easy to use, as they are listed in bunches and the names of the bunches do not follow each other logically. I own a directory for Budapest >from 1943 and another for the rest of the country >from 1942. Judging by the names, Jewish businesses and people are still clearly listed in both of those. I would be happy to look someone or something up in them for anyone, if the publishing dates are relevant to your search. Chag sameach and all the best, Rick Pinard Prague
|
|
|
|
Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: telephone directory in budapest
#hungary
You can browse and search some of the directories here:
http://library.hungaricana.hu/en/collection/fszek_budapesti_czim_es_lakasjegyzek/ On 25 April 2016 at 19:57, Renato Mannheimer renato@... <h-sig@...> wrote: Is there a website where old telephone directories for budapest are listed?
|
|
|
|
Hungary SIG #Hungary Budapest Telephone Directory
#hungary
pinardpr@...
Dear H-Sig,
Renato Mannheimer asked about an on-line site with Budapest telephone directories. I don't know of any such site on-line apart >from this one on archive.org, which is for the Hungarian telephone network outside of Budapest, however: https://archive.org/details/AVidekiHalozatokBeturendesTavbeszeloNevsora1943 It seems to have all the pages, but it is not easy to use, as they are listed in bunches and the names of the bunches do not follow each other logically. I own a directory for Budapest >from 1943 and another for the rest of the country >from 1942. Judging by the names, Jewish businesses and people are still clearly listed in both of those. I would be happy to look someone or something up in them for anyone, if the publishing dates are relevant to your search. Chag sameach and all the best, Rick Pinard Prague
|
|
|
|
GUTTMANN Jttel and Rifka from Wisnicz (Nowy)
#general
Ariane Mil
Dear Genners
Does anyone know what happened to the following sisters Jttel GUTTMANN, born June 15 1854 in Wisnicz (today Wisnicz Nowy) Rifka GUTTMANN, born June 17 1858 in Wisnicz Their parents were Moyzes Moshe Avraham GUTTMANN (born ca. 1830, place not known - died 1891 in Wisnicz) and Broche STIEL (born ca. 1830, place not known - died 1897 in Wisnicz). Information on their three sons and their families Samuel Simmel, born Nov. 3 1856, Baruch, born Feb. 18 1863 and Chiel, born May 7 1867 all born in Wisnicz, are known. Your help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you and Chag Sameach Ariane Mil-Guttmann, Switzerland
|
|
|
|
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen GUTTMANN Jttel and Rifka from Wisnicz (Nowy)
#general
Ariane Mil
Dear Genners
Does anyone know what happened to the following sisters Jttel GUTTMANN, born June 15 1854 in Wisnicz (today Wisnicz Nowy) Rifka GUTTMANN, born June 17 1858 in Wisnicz Their parents were Moyzes Moshe Avraham GUTTMANN (born ca. 1830, place not known - died 1891 in Wisnicz) and Broche STIEL (born ca. 1830, place not known - died 1897 in Wisnicz). Information on their three sons and their families Samuel Simmel, born Nov. 3 1856, Baruch, born Feb. 18 1863 and Chiel, born May 7 1867 all born in Wisnicz, are known. Your help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you and Chag Sameach Ariane Mil-Guttmann, Switzerland
|
|
|
|
Re: marriage certificate, whitechapel
#unitedkingdom
Allen Dryer
Dear Daniel,
Finding a UK marriage (or birth or death) record (>from 1837 on) is a two step process: 1) Search the index of Birth, Marriage and Death records of the UK General Records Office (GRO) at http://www.freebmd.org.uk for the district, volume and page number of the GRO Index Reference Number of the relevant entry. In this case, you already know the district is Whitehall, which helps confirm that you have found the correct result when you search for the marriage of Philip Smith in 1915 and find Smith Philip Lefkovitz Whitechapel 1c 781 Click on the page number (781) for more details: http://tinyurl.com/h3qgvfh and this will confirm that this is the index record for Philip Smith and Annie Lefkovitz's marriage. 2) To request a copy of the actual record in the marriage registry, contact the General Records Office certificate ordering service: https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ You will need to create a (free) account, then select the record type you are requesting (in this case, Marriage Certificate (England & Wales) and indicate that you know the GRO Index Reference Number) and year and then fill in the request form providing the required location of the record, in this case, district: Whitechapel, volume: 1c, page: 781. You will be required to pay for the copying of the record and it will be mailed to you. Standard delivery cost currently is £9.25 per certificate. Regards, Allen Dryer Researching DRYER, DRAJER, BROMBERG, (London, UK, and Gr=C3=B3jec, Poland), LUTZES (London, Ukraine), ROTHMAN/ROCKMAN (London, UK) Subject: marriage certificate, whitechapel From: vangheluwe.smietan@... Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 12:28:11 +0200 (CEST) Dear Genners, I would obtain the marriage certificate of Philip Smith and Annie Lefkovitz, Whitechapel, London, December 1915. Can anyone help me? Many thanks Daniel Vangheluwe, Sotteville_les_Rouen FRANCE
|
|
|
|
JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: marriage certificate, whitechapel
#unitedkingdom
Allen Dryer
Dear Daniel,
Finding a UK marriage (or birth or death) record (>from 1837 on) is a two step process: 1) Search the index of Birth, Marriage and Death records of the UK General Records Office (GRO) at http://www.freebmd.org.uk for the district, volume and page number of the GRO Index Reference Number of the relevant entry. In this case, you already know the district is Whitehall, which helps confirm that you have found the correct result when you search for the marriage of Philip Smith in 1915 and find Smith Philip Lefkovitz Whitechapel 1c 781 Click on the page number (781) for more details: http://tinyurl.com/h3qgvfh and this will confirm that this is the index record for Philip Smith and Annie Lefkovitz's marriage. 2) To request a copy of the actual record in the marriage registry, contact the General Records Office certificate ordering service: https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ You will need to create a (free) account, then select the record type you are requesting (in this case, Marriage Certificate (England & Wales) and indicate that you know the GRO Index Reference Number) and year and then fill in the request form providing the required location of the record, in this case, district: Whitechapel, volume: 1c, page: 781. You will be required to pay for the copying of the record and it will be mailed to you. Standard delivery cost currently is £9.25 per certificate. Regards, Allen Dryer Researching DRYER, DRAJER, BROMBERG, (London, UK, and Gr=C3=B3jec, Poland), LUTZES (London, Ukraine), ROTHMAN/ROCKMAN (London, UK) Subject: marriage certificate, whitechapel From: vangheluwe.smietan@... Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 12:28:11 +0200 (CEST) Dear Genners, I would obtain the marriage certificate of Philip Smith and Annie Lefkovitz, Whitechapel, London, December 1915. Can anyone help me? Many thanks Daniel Vangheluwe, Sotteville_les_Rouen FRANCE
|
|
|
|
Rugby player
#unitedkingdom
Steve Pickoltz
I'm trying to find any kind of information on a 1884 Rugby player who played
for the Northumberland team, against Yorkshire in the Rugby Union Football game. The player's name was---- A. PICKHOLTZ. That is the only information I have on him. This info came >from an old newspaper article in the sport section. Steve Pickholtz New Jersey USA nj55turtle@...
|
|
|
|
JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Rugby player
#unitedkingdom
Steve Pickoltz
I'm trying to find any kind of information on a 1884 Rugby player who played
for the Northumberland team, against Yorkshire in the Rugby Union Football game. The player's name was---- A. PICKHOLTZ. That is the only information I have on him. This info came >from an old newspaper article in the sport section. Steve Pickholtz New Jersey USA nj55turtle@...
|
|
|
|
Origin of female name "Meimel"
#general
Deborah Dworski
I have a female cousin whose Jewish name is Meimel. She was named after her
grandmother. She would like to know about the origin of this name, but I haven't been able to find anything about it. I do see that there are about thirty females with the name Meimel in the JRI-Poland Database, so it's not unique, though it does seem rather unusual. Maybe it's a nickname, and I'm just not making a mental association with the formal name? Would anyone be able to help me? Thank you in advance, Deborah Dworski
|
|
|
|
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Origin of female name "Meimel"
#general
Deborah Dworski
I have a female cousin whose Jewish name is Meimel. She was named after her
grandmother. She would like to know about the origin of this name, but I haven't been able to find anything about it. I do see that there are about thirty females with the name Meimel in the JRI-Poland Database, so it's not unique, though it does seem rather unusual. Maybe it's a nickname, and I'm just not making a mental association with the formal name? Would anyone be able to help me? Thank you in advance, Deborah Dworski
|
|
|
|
In May, 2016- Jewish Genealogy Events at the Center for Jewish History in New York
#germany
JewishGen German Research Division Coordinator
"Family History Today" At The [New York] Center For Jewish History
May 15-24, 2016 15 West 16th Street (Between 5th and 6th Avenues) *** Schedule of Events: *** Sunday, May 15, 1 PM Jewish Genealogical Society Monthly Meeting: Focus on Family History at the Leo Baeck Institute (LBI) and tour of LBI / CJH. Tour Sunday, May 15, 2 PM Jewish Genealogical Society Monthly Meeting: Leo Baeck Institute (LBI) Family History Success Stories Lecture featuring Karen Franklin (LBI's Director of Family Research), Michael Simonson (LBI archivist), and Moriah Amit (Senior Reference Services Librarian at the Ackman & Ziff Family Genealogy Institute) Monday, May 16, 6:30 PM Family History Treasures at the National Archives Lecture featuring Christopher Zarr (Education Specialist for the National Archives at New York City) Thursday, May 19, 6:30 PM Sephardic Dynasties: Irish Crypto Rabbis with a Converso Twist Lecture featuring Sarina Roffe (founder of the Sephardic Heritage Project and Sephardic Genealogical Journeys) Monday, May 24, 6:30 PM A Family Historian Uncovers Mysteries of 19th Century German-Jewish Immigrant Families Lecture featuring Karen Franklin (LBI's Director of Family Research) and Allan Amanik (Assistant Professor of Judaic Studies at Brooklyn College) Tuesday, May 25, 6:30 PM Be your own Family History Archivist! Workshop For more information and to reserve your tickets, please visit http://16thstreet.tumblr.com/post/143176758837/family-history-today-2016
|
|
|
|
German SIG #Germany In May, 2016- Jewish Genealogy Events at the Center for Jewish History in New York
#germany
JewishGen German Research Division Coordinator
"Family History Today" At The [New York] Center For Jewish History
May 15-24, 2016 15 West 16th Street (Between 5th and 6th Avenues) *** Schedule of Events: *** Sunday, May 15, 1 PM Jewish Genealogical Society Monthly Meeting: Focus on Family History at the Leo Baeck Institute (LBI) and tour of LBI / CJH. Tour Sunday, May 15, 2 PM Jewish Genealogical Society Monthly Meeting: Leo Baeck Institute (LBI) Family History Success Stories Lecture featuring Karen Franklin (LBI's Director of Family Research), Michael Simonson (LBI archivist), and Moriah Amit (Senior Reference Services Librarian at the Ackman & Ziff Family Genealogy Institute) Monday, May 16, 6:30 PM Family History Treasures at the National Archives Lecture featuring Christopher Zarr (Education Specialist for the National Archives at New York City) Thursday, May 19, 6:30 PM Sephardic Dynasties: Irish Crypto Rabbis with a Converso Twist Lecture featuring Sarina Roffe (founder of the Sephardic Heritage Project and Sephardic Genealogical Journeys) Monday, May 24, 6:30 PM A Family Historian Uncovers Mysteries of 19th Century German-Jewish Immigrant Families Lecture featuring Karen Franklin (LBI's Director of Family Research) and Allan Amanik (Assistant Professor of Judaic Studies at Brooklyn College) Tuesday, May 25, 6:30 PM Be your own Family History Archivist! Workshop For more information and to reserve your tickets, please visit http://16thstreet.tumblr.com/post/143176758837/family-history-today-2016
|
|
|
|
Re: Records from Jaremcze/Yaremche
#galicia
Alexander Sharon
Jennifer Mendelsohn wrote:
Hi all. This is my first post here. My maternal grandfather's family has deep roots in Bolechow. The one document that has long eluded us, however, is the death certificate of his father, who died suddenly while on vacation in the Carpathian mountain resort of Yaremche in 1912. Yaremche does not appear to have had a large Jewish population, and I'm having a hard time ascertaining where the certificate would be. I'm not even sure if it's in Ukraine or Poland. Relatedly, I have no frame of reference for what circumstances might have been like in 1912. Is it likely he was buried there, where he died, or would the body have been transported back to Bolechow? Where would the closest Jewish cemetery to Yaremche have been? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jennifer, Town Yaremche (Polish: Jaremcze) is located in the Nadvirna (Polish: Nadworna) district of the Ivano-Frankivsk (Polish: Stanislawow) Province of the western part of Ukraine. The town is known as a spa and tourist attraction of the Eastern Carpathians region, situated in the Prut River Valley near the Hungarian and Romanian borders. The Jewish population of this place was indeed small, and it was not known to have an established Jewish community. The town Jaremcze was connected by railway (rail line Stanislawow - Woronienka) link to major towns in Galicia. Distance between towns Bolechow and Jaremcze is about 83 miles, thus body was schlepped by rail >from Jaremcze to Stanislawow, and >from Stanislawow to Bolechow. You can check Bolechow records through JRI-P database. Best Alexander Sharon JGFF editor
|
|
|
|
Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Records from Jaremcze/Yaremche
#galicia
Alexander Sharon
Jennifer Mendelsohn wrote:
Hi all. This is my first post here. My maternal grandfather's family has deep roots in Bolechow. The one document that has long eluded us, however, is the death certificate of his father, who died suddenly while on vacation in the Carpathian mountain resort of Yaremche in 1912. Yaremche does not appear to have had a large Jewish population, and I'm having a hard time ascertaining where the certificate would be. I'm not even sure if it's in Ukraine or Poland. Relatedly, I have no frame of reference for what circumstances might have been like in 1912. Is it likely he was buried there, where he died, or would the body have been transported back to Bolechow? Where would the closest Jewish cemetery to Yaremche have been? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jennifer, Town Yaremche (Polish: Jaremcze) is located in the Nadvirna (Polish: Nadworna) district of the Ivano-Frankivsk (Polish: Stanislawow) Province of the western part of Ukraine. The town is known as a spa and tourist attraction of the Eastern Carpathians region, situated in the Prut River Valley near the Hungarian and Romanian borders. The Jewish population of this place was indeed small, and it was not known to have an established Jewish community. The town Jaremcze was connected by railway (rail line Stanislawow - Woronienka) link to major towns in Galicia. Distance between towns Bolechow and Jaremcze is about 83 miles, thus body was schlepped by rail >from Jaremcze to Stanislawow, and >from Stanislawow to Bolechow. You can check Bolechow records through JRI-P database. Best Alexander Sharon JGFF editor
|
|
|
|
Records from Jaremcze/Yaremche
#galicia
Jennifer Mendelsohn <jennifer@...>
Hi all. This is my first post here. My maternal grandfather's family has
deep roots in Bolechow. The one document that has long eluded us, however, is the death certificate of his father, who died suddenly while on vacation in the Carpathian mountain resort of Yaremche in 1912. Yaremche does not appear to have had a large Jewish population, and I'm having a hard time ascertaining where the certificate would be. I'm not even sure if it's in Ukraine or Poland. Relatedly, I have no frame of reference for what circumstances might have been like in 1912. Is it likely he was buried there, where he died, or would the body have been transported back to Bolechow? Where would the closest Jewish cemetery to Yaremche have been? Any guidance or suggestions appreciated. Thanks very much. Jennifer Mendelsohn Baltimore, MD
|
|
|
|
Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Records from Jaremcze/Yaremche
#galicia
Jennifer Mendelsohn <jennifer@...>
Hi all. This is my first post here. My maternal grandfather's family has
deep roots in Bolechow. The one document that has long eluded us, however, is the death certificate of his father, who died suddenly while on vacation in the Carpathian mountain resort of Yaremche in 1912. Yaremche does not appear to have had a large Jewish population, and I'm having a hard time ascertaining where the certificate would be. I'm not even sure if it's in Ukraine or Poland. Relatedly, I have no frame of reference for what circumstances might have been like in 1912. Is it likely he was buried there, where he died, or would the body have been transported back to Bolechow? Where would the closest Jewish cemetery to Yaremche have been? Any guidance or suggestions appreciated. Thanks very much. Jennifer Mendelsohn Baltimore, MD
|
|
|
|
Re: Birth record that isn't one
#galicia
Stephen Weinstein
There probably isn't an earlier "original" record. Many births simply
weren't recorded when they happened, for various reasons. Maybe no one who knew of the birth was aware of the requirement to report it to whomever was supposed to record it. Maybe if a baby wasn't expected to live, they didn't see the point to recording the birth. Maybe some parents felt that if the birth was recorded, the child would be at risk of being drafted into the military later, and tried to protect their child >from this by keeping the birth (and therefore the existence of the child) secret >from the government. And in one case which you may have heard mentioned at your Seder, the parents of Moses tried to hide him due to Pharaoh's decree to kill the Jewish males. Stephen Weinstein stephenweinstein@... Camarillo, CA, USA Rivka Schirman <capitetes@...> wrote: I have looked at the image of what is listed in JRI-Poland database as birth registry of my uncle Jakob Moscisker. It is listed as entry 191 of the Czortkow registry. However, while mentioning the year of birth (1906) and place of birth (Dzuryn), this is an addendum made at the end of the book and added in 1935. There is no other result of him in the JRI database and I could not find the original birth registry among the images linked to the addendum. Any suggestion on where/how I could find the original/actual birth registry ?
|
|
|
|
Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Birth record that isn't one
#galicia
Stephen Weinstein
There probably isn't an earlier "original" record. Many births simply
weren't recorded when they happened, for various reasons. Maybe no one who knew of the birth was aware of the requirement to report it to whomever was supposed to record it. Maybe if a baby wasn't expected to live, they didn't see the point to recording the birth. Maybe some parents felt that if the birth was recorded, the child would be at risk of being drafted into the military later, and tried to protect their child >from this by keeping the birth (and therefore the existence of the child) secret >from the government. And in one case which you may have heard mentioned at your Seder, the parents of Moses tried to hide him due to Pharaoh's decree to kill the Jewish males. Stephen Weinstein stephenweinstein@... Camarillo, CA, USA Rivka Schirman <capitetes@...> wrote: I have looked at the image of what is listed in JRI-Poland database as birth registry of my uncle Jakob Moscisker. It is listed as entry 191 of the Czortkow registry. However, while mentioning the year of birth (1906) and place of birth (Dzuryn), this is an addendum made at the end of the book and added in 1935. There is no other result of him in the JRI database and I could not find the original birth registry among the images linked to the addendum. Any suggestion on where/how I could find the original/actual birth registry ?
|
|
|