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Tornyosnemeti Moskovits #hungary

pgbakos@...
 

Last fall when going to Kassa/Kosice I passed through Tornyosnemeti, a small town next to the border with Slovakia and which is quite close to Sena/Szina.

As I was walking past the church my eye caught a very large memorial which read "Our Martyrs: 1848-1956" under which were inscribed a list of names.
I always scrutinize such monuments as one never knows what may be discovered by so doing.

Lo and behold there appeared the names Moskovits Gyula and Moskovits Gyulane, no further information.

I am assuming this is a town memorial which is erected in the churchyard and the names are not limited to members of the church.

My question is; how do I find out who were this Gyula Moskovits and his wife? Are they, as I suspect, >from Szina and they moved over the new border in 1919? If so, then he was probably the brother of my great grandmother.

I was going to go up there, but my Hungarian is rudimentary, I have no idea when the town hall is open, and with the Orban regime's tightening of access to public records, whether they would even give me any information.

Hints anybody, Please.

Peter Bakos (normally, St. Crespin, France, but temporarily in Budapest) searching, for now, MAYERHOFFER, MOSKOVITS, HERSKOVITS, >from Abauj Megye and SCHUSTER >from Moson Megye


Schuster in Papa and Oroszvar #hungary

pgbakos@...
 

I had a nice productive day at the Magyar Zsido Library at the Synagogue.=20

They try to be helpful, but much of what they tell you is what you can alre=
ady find on Jewish Gen.

But they do have the microfilms and if you wish to avoid the endless bus tr=
ip up to the Archives at north end of Obuda then the investment of 1000 For=
int is well worth it.

Thanks to Vivian Kahn who found a marriage in 1885 where Fulop Schuster was=
a witness (Jewish Gen database only shows one witness out of four which is=
why you should ALWAYS consult the register) and knowing the death of his w=
idow in 1893, I was able to quickly search the registers and find the death=
of Fulop Schuster in 1889 aged 75. His place of birth was given as Karlbu=
rg in Moson Megye, but this is difficult at Karlburg shows in some director=
ys as Karolyvar which is next to Belgrade.

In fact, Karlburg is Oroszvar, which is now in Slovakia but for which the H=
ungarian records exist.

Peter G. Bakos, normally >from St Crespin, France, but temporarily in Budape=
st. Searching SCHUSTER and related - NOBEL/NOBL, STEINER, WALLNER >from Pap=
a, Gyor, Oroszvar, Szilsarkany and Csorna.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Tornyosnemeti Moskovits #hungary

pgbakos@...
 

Last fall when going to Kassa/Kosice I passed through Tornyosnemeti, a small town next to the border with Slovakia and which is quite close to Sena/Szina.

As I was walking past the church my eye caught a very large memorial which read "Our Martyrs: 1848-1956" under which were inscribed a list of names.
I always scrutinize such monuments as one never knows what may be discovered by so doing.

Lo and behold there appeared the names Moskovits Gyula and Moskovits Gyulane, no further information.

I am assuming this is a town memorial which is erected in the churchyard and the names are not limited to members of the church.

My question is; how do I find out who were this Gyula Moskovits and his wife? Are they, as I suspect, >from Szina and they moved over the new border in 1919? If so, then he was probably the brother of my great grandmother.

I was going to go up there, but my Hungarian is rudimentary, I have no idea when the town hall is open, and with the Orban regime's tightening of access to public records, whether they would even give me any information.

Hints anybody, Please.

Peter Bakos (normally, St. Crespin, France, but temporarily in Budapest) searching, for now, MAYERHOFFER, MOSKOVITS, HERSKOVITS, >from Abauj Megye and SCHUSTER >from Moson Megye


Hungary SIG #Hungary Schuster in Papa and Oroszvar #hungary

pgbakos@...
 

I had a nice productive day at the Magyar Zsido Library at the Synagogue.=20

They try to be helpful, but much of what they tell you is what you can alre=
ady find on Jewish Gen.

But they do have the microfilms and if you wish to avoid the endless bus tr=
ip up to the Archives at north end of Obuda then the investment of 1000 For=
int is well worth it.

Thanks to Vivian Kahn who found a marriage in 1885 where Fulop Schuster was=
a witness (Jewish Gen database only shows one witness out of four which is=
why you should ALWAYS consult the register) and knowing the death of his w=
idow in 1893, I was able to quickly search the registers and find the death=
of Fulop Schuster in 1889 aged 75. His place of birth was given as Karlbu=
rg in Moson Megye, but this is difficult at Karlburg shows in some director=
ys as Karolyvar which is next to Belgrade.

In fact, Karlburg is Oroszvar, which is now in Slovakia but for which the H=
ungarian records exist.

Peter G. Bakos, normally >from St Crespin, France, but temporarily in Budape=
st. Searching SCHUSTER and related - NOBEL/NOBL, STEINER, WALLNER >from Pap=
a, Gyor, Oroszvar, Szilsarkany and Csorna.


Meaning of "Servant" in 18th and 19th Century Hungarian Censuses #hungary

Hilary Osofsky
 

There are two censuses of Hunszdorf (now Huncovce, Slovakia) that contain unusual references to servitude with respect to my ancestor/s, Marcus Wolf/f, for which I've been unable to obtain a meaningful explanation - although perhaps the translation is at the bottom of this.

The census of 1771 describes Marcus Wolff as being "in Hungary since 1729; servant of the Jewish community."

And according to the census of 1838, Marcus Wolf was "extremely poor, occupation as a servant to endure."

I would appreciate hearing >from anyone who has any insight into these comments.

Thank you.

Hilary [Stein] Osofsky
Orinda, CA
WOLF Bucovce,  Huncovce, Jelsava, Kosice, Kral'ova Lehota, Liptovsky Hradok, Maly Slavkov, Nehre, Nizne Ruzbachy, Porubka, Revuca, Sulin, Satu Mare, Visne Ruzbachy
NUERENBERGER Frankova, Hagy, Krizova Ves, Olublo, Podolinic, Spisska Stara Ves, Vysne Ruzbachy, Zalesie, Zilinarhaps the translation is at the bottom of this.

The census of 1771 describes Marcus Wolff as being "in Hungary since 1729; =
servant of the Jewish community."

And according to the census of 1838, Marcus Wolf was "extremely poor, occup=
ation as a servant to endure."

I would appreciate hearing >from anyone who has any insight into these comme=
nts.

Thank you.

Hilary [Stein] Osofsky
Orinda, CA
WOLF Bucovce, =C2=A0Huncovce,=C2=A0Jelsava, Kosice, Kral'ova Lehota, Liptov=
sky Hradok, Maly Slavkov,=C2=A0Nehre,=C2=A0Nizne Ruzbachy, Porubka, Revuca,=
=C2=A0Sulin,=C2=A0Satu Mare, Visne Ruzbachy
NUERENBERGER Frankova, Hagy, Krizova Ves, Olublo, Podolinic, Spisska Stara =
Ves, Vysne Ruzbachy, Zalesie, Zilina


Hungary SIG #Hungary Meaning of "Servant" in 18th and 19th Century Hungarian Censuses #hungary

Hilary Osofsky
 

There are two censuses of Hunszdorf (now Huncovce, Slovakia) that contain unusual references to servitude with respect to my ancestor/s, Marcus Wolf/f, for which I've been unable to obtain a meaningful explanation - although perhaps the translation is at the bottom of this.

The census of 1771 describes Marcus Wolff as being "in Hungary since 1729; servant of the Jewish community."

And according to the census of 1838, Marcus Wolf was "extremely poor, occupation as a servant to endure."

I would appreciate hearing >from anyone who has any insight into these comments.

Thank you.

Hilary [Stein] Osofsky
Orinda, CA
WOLF Bucovce,  Huncovce, Jelsava, Kosice, Kral'ova Lehota, Liptovsky Hradok, Maly Slavkov, Nehre, Nizne Ruzbachy, Porubka, Revuca, Sulin, Satu Mare, Visne Ruzbachy
NUERENBERGER Frankova, Hagy, Krizova Ves, Olublo, Podolinic, Spisska Stara Ves, Vysne Ruzbachy, Zalesie, Zilinarhaps the translation is at the bottom of this.

The census of 1771 describes Marcus Wolff as being "in Hungary since 1729; =
servant of the Jewish community."

And according to the census of 1838, Marcus Wolf was "extremely poor, occup=
ation as a servant to endure."

I would appreciate hearing >from anyone who has any insight into these comme=
nts.

Thank you.

Hilary [Stein] Osofsky
Orinda, CA
WOLF Bucovce, =C2=A0Huncovce,=C2=A0Jelsava, Kosice, Kral'ova Lehota, Liptov=
sky Hradok, Maly Slavkov,=C2=A0Nehre,=C2=A0Nizne Ruzbachy, Porubka, Revuca,=
=C2=A0Sulin,=C2=A0Satu Mare, Visne Ruzbachy
NUERENBERGER Frankova, Hagy, Krizova Ves, Olublo, Podolinic, Spisska Stara =
Ves, Vysne Ruzbachy, Zalesie, Zilina


New February Classes offered by JewishGen/Education #poland

Nancy Holden
 

Open for Registration at JewishGen/Education
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FREE -
Basic 2: Search Strategies - Using Google for Genealogy
January 29 - February 11

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Free to contributors to JewishGen General Fund in past 12 months
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If you have a research problem you would love to work on with
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you set goals and objectives for solutions and success.

Independent Study is a way to get a helping hand. We offer a wide
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The JewishGen Forum is a private Internet site through JewishGen/
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BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland New February Classes offered by JewishGen/Education #poland

Nancy Holden
 

Open for Registration at JewishGen/Education
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FREE -
Basic 2: Search Strategies - Using Google for Genealogy
January 29 - February 11

JewishGen Education offers Free Value-Added 2 week workbook class
Free to contributors to JewishGen General Fund in past 12 months
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen/ValueAdded.asp)
$18. for members who do not have value added status.

FEE BASED-
Independent Study February 9 - March 1.

If you have a research problem you would love to work on with
individualized instruction...set up you own project and spend 3 weeks
with a personal mentor. The instructor will analyze your data and help
you set goals and objectives for solutions and success.

Independent Study is a way to get a helping hand. We offer a wide
range of problem solving solutions: techniques and resources.

The JewishGen Forum is a private Internet site through JewishGen/
Education that offers open 24/7.

Course Description: http://www.jewishgen.org/education
Tuition: $200.

Nancy Holden
Email Nancy Holden
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New February Classes offered by JewishGen/Education #lodz #poland

Nancy Holden
 

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FREE -
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January 29 - February 11

JewishGen Education offers Free Value-Added 2 week workbook class
Free to contributors to JewishGen General Fund in past 12 months
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen/ValueAdded.asp)
$18. for members who do not have value added status.

FEE BASED-
Independent Study February 9 - March 1.

If you have a research problem you would love to work on with
individualized instruction...set up you own project and spend 3 weeks
with a personal mentor. The instructor will analyze your data and help
you set goals and objectives for solutions and success.

Independent Study is a way to get a helping hand. We offer a wide
range of problem solving solutions: techniques and resources.

The JewishGen Forum is a private Internet site through JewishGen/
Education that offers open 24/7.

Course Description: http://www.jewishgen.org/education
Tuition: $200.

Nancy Holden
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Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland New February Classes offered by JewishGen/Education #lodz #poland

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If you have a research problem you would love to work on with
individualized instruction...set up you own project and spend 3 weeks
with a personal mentor. The instructor will analyze your data and help
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Independent Study is a way to get a helping hand. We offer a wide
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The JewishGen Forum is a private Internet site through JewishGen/
Education that offers open 24/7.

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Tuition: $200.

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New February Classes offered by JewishGen/Education #lithuania

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Independent Study is a way to get a helping hand. We offer a wide
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Education that offers open 24/7.

Course Description: http://www.jewishgen.org/education
Tuition: $200.

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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania New February Classes offered by JewishGen/Education #lithuania

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Free to contributors to JewishGen General Fund in past 12 months
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FEE BASED-
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If you have a research problem you would love to work on with
individualized instruction...set up you own project and spend 3 weeks
with a personal mentor. The instructor will analyze your data and help
you set goals and objectives for solutions and success.

Independent Study is a way to get a helping hand. We offer a wide
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The JewishGen Forum is a private Internet site through JewishGen/
Education that offers open 24/7.

Course Description: http://www.jewishgen.org/education
Tuition: $200.

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New February Classes offered by JewishGen/Education #poland

bounce-3455355-772962@...
 

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Free to contributors to JewishGen General Fund in past 12 months
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen/ValueAdded.asp)
$18. for members who do not have value added status.

FEE BASED-
Independent Study February 9 - March 1.

If you have a research problem you would love to work on with
individualized instruction...set up you own project and spend 3 weeks
with a personal mentor. The instructor will analyze your data and help
you set goals and objectives for solutions and success.

Independent Study is a way to get a helping hand. We offer a wide
range of problem solving solutions: techniques and resources.

The JewishGen Forum is a private Internet site through JewishGen/
Education that offers open 24/7.

Course Description: http://www.jewishgen.org/education
Tuition: $200.

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Free to contributors to JewishGen General Fund in past 12 months
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen/ValueAdded.asp)
$18. for members who do not have value added status.

FEE BASED-
Independent Study February 9 - March 1.

If you have a research problem you would love to work on with
individualized instruction...set up you own project and spend 3 weeks
with a personal mentor. The instructor will analyze your data and help
you set goals and objectives for solutions and success.

Independent Study is a way to get a helping hand. We offer a wide
range of problem solving solutions: techniques and resources.

The JewishGen Forum is a private Internet site through JewishGen/
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Course Description: http://www.jewishgen.org/education
Tuition: $200.

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Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Kansas City #poland

Ronald D. Doctor
 

JEWISH GENEALOGY IS COMING TO THE KANSAS CITY AREA

We are forming a new Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Kansas City
(JGSGKC).
If you are in the Kansas City area please join us at our first meeting.

Monday evening, January 22, 2018
6:30 pm to 8:00 pm
Johnson County Central Resource Library (Logan Room)
9875 W. 87th Street, Overland Park, Kansas

At the meeting, we'll ask you to tell us about your Jewish genealogy
interests and about the kind of programs and presentations that would
be most useful to you. We'll also spend some time discussing some
administrative stuff e.g. what day of the week and time of day is
best for our program meetings, developing a web and social media
presence, etc. If time permits, we'll have a short presentation
about some basic Jewish family history resources that are
available for your research.

Our goals are to:
* Help you learn about the most current methods, resources,
technologies, and techniques to help you achieve your goals;
* Help you network with other researchers whose ancestors were >from the
same old country areas as yours;
* Keep you up-to-date with occasional e-mail messages and announcements
>from discussion lists on the Web, and with regular meetings
through the year.

For more information or if you have any questions please contact:
Ron Doctor, rddpdx@gmail.com <rddpdx@gmail.com>, or,
Richard Rosenstock, richard@rosenstock.net <richard@rosenstock.net>

We're looking forward to meeting you.

Ron
--
Ron Doctor (rddpdx@gmail.com)
Interim President
Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Kansas City (JGS GKC)
and
Co-Coordinator, Kremenets Shtetl CO-OP/Jewish Records Indexing-Poland
an activity of the Kremenets District Research Group (KDRG)
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Kremenets
Overland Park, Kansas USA
and
Board Member and Past Coordinator
JewishGen Ukraine Special Interest Group (Ukraine SIG)

Researching DOCTOR (DIOKHTER), VARER, AVERBAKH, KORENFELD ... all >from
Kremenets, Oleksinets, Yampol, Vishnevets
and KAZDOY (KOSODOY), DUBINSKI, DUBOWSKY ... all >from Kiev, Uman, Odessa


JRI Poland #Poland Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Kansas City #poland

Ronald D. Doctor
 

JEWISH GENEALOGY IS COMING TO THE KANSAS CITY AREA

We are forming a new Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Kansas City
(JGSGKC).
If you are in the Kansas City area please join us at our first meeting.

Monday evening, January 22, 2018
6:30 pm to 8:00 pm
Johnson County Central Resource Library (Logan Room)
9875 W. 87th Street, Overland Park, Kansas

At the meeting, we'll ask you to tell us about your Jewish genealogy
interests and about the kind of programs and presentations that would
be most useful to you. We'll also spend some time discussing some
administrative stuff e.g. what day of the week and time of day is
best for our program meetings, developing a web and social media
presence, etc. If time permits, we'll have a short presentation
about some basic Jewish family history resources that are
available for your research.

Our goals are to:
* Help you learn about the most current methods, resources,
technologies, and techniques to help you achieve your goals;
* Help you network with other researchers whose ancestors were >from the
same old country areas as yours;
* Keep you up-to-date with occasional e-mail messages and announcements
>from discussion lists on the Web, and with regular meetings
through the year.

For more information or if you have any questions please contact:
Ron Doctor, rddpdx@gmail.com <rddpdx@gmail.com>, or,
Richard Rosenstock, richard@rosenstock.net <richard@rosenstock.net>

We're looking forward to meeting you.

Ron
--
Ron Doctor (rddpdx@gmail.com)
Interim President
Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Kansas City (JGS GKC)
and
Co-Coordinator, Kremenets Shtetl CO-OP/Jewish Records Indexing-Poland
an activity of the Kremenets District Research Group (KDRG)
http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/Kremenets
Overland Park, Kansas USA
and
Board Member and Past Coordinator
JewishGen Ukraine Special Interest Group (Ukraine SIG)

Researching DOCTOR (DIOKHTER), VARER, AVERBAKH, KORENFELD ... all >from
Kremenets, Oleksinets, Yampol, Vishnevets
and KAZDOY (KOSODOY), DUBINSKI, DUBOWSKY ... all >from Kiev, Uman, Odessa


ViewMate translation request #poland

magijak@...
 

Dear Fellow Researchers,
I've posted 5 vital records in Russian, >from Mogielnica Poland, for which I
need extraction of all genealogical data (names, dates, places).

I'd appreciate as complete a translation as possible.

It is on ViewMate at the following addresses:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM62648
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM62647
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM62646
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM62645
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM62644


Thank you very much,
mailto:magijak@gmail.com

Jacob Hammer


Galacia and Dolgicion #poland

Andrew Seidenberg <andrew.seidenberg@...>
 

Hello,
I am doing research on my great-grandfather (Sam Seidenberg). I found
a World War 1 draft card for him that said he was >from Galacia.
However, a document I found for his brother, says his brother is from
Dolgicion. Are these two names for the same place? Or possibly
different places? Could not find any information on Dolgicion. Any
help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Andrew Seidenberg
North Carolina, USA
andrew.seidenberg@gmail.com


JRI Poland #Poland ViewMate translation request #poland

magijak@...
 

Dear Fellow Researchers,
I've posted 5 vital records in Russian, >from Mogielnica Poland, for which I
need extraction of all genealogical data (names, dates, places).

I'd appreciate as complete a translation as possible.

It is on ViewMate at the following addresses:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM62648
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM62647
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM62646
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM62645
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM62644


Thank you very much,
mailto:magijak@gmail.com

Jacob Hammer


JRI Poland #Poland Galacia and Dolgicion #poland

Andrew Seidenberg <andrew.seidenberg@...>
 

Hello,
I am doing research on my great-grandfather (Sam Seidenberg). I found
a World War 1 draft card for him that said he was >from Galacia.
However, a document I found for his brother, says his brother is from
Dolgicion. Are these two names for the same place? Or possibly
different places? Could not find any information on Dolgicion. Any
help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Andrew Seidenberg
North Carolina, USA
andrew.seidenberg@gmail.com

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