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Eugene Oregon Genealogy Meeting May 11 #general

Reeva Kimble <rkimble@...>
 

The next regularly scheduled meeting of EugeneGen: The Eugene Oregon
Jewish Genealogy Study Group will be Wednesday, May 11, 2005 at 7:30
PM.

Jonathan Seidel will present a talk on the Early Modern and Modern
history of the Vilna Gubernia, the intersection of the Hasidic and
Mitnagdic worlds and the history of the Polish/Lithuanian town of
Postowe. He will focus on his father's lineage, in particular the
Zeitl/Seidel/Sjeidl families >from 1750 to 1945.

Our meetings are open to everyone. You are welcome to bring genealogy
research questions, success stories, old photos, reference books and
family heirlooms. EugeneGen members can borrow books and newsletters
from our library and list family names and towns on the EugeneGen web
site.

EugeneGen Web Site: http://www.nwfam.com/eugenegen.html

Contact me if you need directions.

Reeva Jacobson Kimble
Eugene Oregon
rkimble@uoregon.edu


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Eugene Oregon Genealogy Meeting May 11 #general

Reeva Kimble <rkimble@...>
 

The next regularly scheduled meeting of EugeneGen: The Eugene Oregon
Jewish Genealogy Study Group will be Wednesday, May 11, 2005 at 7:30
PM.

Jonathan Seidel will present a talk on the Early Modern and Modern
history of the Vilna Gubernia, the intersection of the Hasidic and
Mitnagdic worlds and the history of the Polish/Lithuanian town of
Postowe. He will focus on his father's lineage, in particular the
Zeitl/Seidel/Sjeidl families >from 1750 to 1945.

Our meetings are open to everyone. You are welcome to bring genealogy
research questions, success stories, old photos, reference books and
family heirlooms. EugeneGen members can borrow books and newsletters
from our library and list family names and towns on the EugeneGen web
site.

EugeneGen Web Site: http://www.nwfam.com/eugenegen.html

Contact me if you need directions.

Reeva Jacobson Kimble
Eugene Oregon
rkimble@uoregon.edu


French/English TRANSLATION - Death Certificate #france

Caroline <cfb@...>
 

Hi,
I have just received the death certificate of my great, great grandfather -
written in French and was wondering if anyone might be able to translate it
for me?

Unfortunately, it would need to be by post, as I don't have access to a
scanner, in order to e-mail it.

With many thanks,
Sincerely
Caroline Faunce-Brown
(Lancashire, England)
cfb@pobox.com
Researching: ADLER and VERGOTTINI

MODERATOR: please reply privately to "Caroline" <cfb@pobox.com>


French SIG #France French/English TRANSLATION - Death Certificate #france

Caroline <cfb@...>
 

Hi,
I have just received the death certificate of my great, great grandfather -
written in French and was wondering if anyone might be able to translate it
for me?

Unfortunately, it would need to be by post, as I don't have access to a
scanner, in order to e-mail it.

With many thanks,
Sincerely
Caroline Faunce-Brown
(Lancashire, England)
cfb@pobox.com
Researching: ADLER and VERGOTTINI

MODERATOR: please reply privately to "Caroline" <cfb@pobox.com>


Re: frenchsig digest: May 03, 2005 #france

Doug Stern <shlomoson@...>
 

Dear French Jewishgeners,

My mothers side of the family are french Jews who escaped >from Spain around
1492 to France and then to England and in the late 1800's came here to
Winnipeg, Canada. What I would like to ask is if any one knows how common it
was for Jews in Spain and France to have the name LEFARRENT and WELLS?
Family tradition says that they shortened the name to FARRENT when they
moved to England. Here are the names I am trying to track down. Thomas
FARRENT born 1812 in London,Soho,Middlesex, England. He had a daughter named
Caroline FARRENT born 1836 who married George W. WELLS born 1826 at
WhiteWaltam,Berkshire, England. They came to Canada in the early 1900's.
Does this ring a bell with anyone out there? Thanks for your help.

Sincerely,

D.E.STERN

MODERATOR: please include where your are residing town/country


French SIG #France RE: frenchsig digest: May 03, 2005 #france

Doug Stern <shlomoson@...>
 

Dear French Jewishgeners,

My mothers side of the family are french Jews who escaped >from Spain around
1492 to France and then to England and in the late 1800's came here to
Winnipeg, Canada. What I would like to ask is if any one knows how common it
was for Jews in Spain and France to have the name LEFARRENT and WELLS?
Family tradition says that they shortened the name to FARRENT when they
moved to England. Here are the names I am trying to track down. Thomas
FARRENT born 1812 in London,Soho,Middlesex, England. He had a daughter named
Caroline FARRENT born 1836 who married George W. WELLS born 1826 at
WhiteWaltam,Berkshire, England. They came to Canada in the early 1900's.
Does this ring a bell with anyone out there? Thanks for your help.

Sincerely,

D.E.STERN

MODERATOR: please include where your are residing town/country


Slave labour camps in North Africa #france

Doug Mason
 

Dear Siggers,

Please excuse my basic question, but I have been looking at the stories of
the French experience during WW2 for only the past few weeks.

The following is my understanding:

In 1941 (1942 as well?), the Vichy government used interned people to work
on the Trans-Sahara railway.

There were 17 slave labour concentration camps in North Africa: 3 in
Morocco, 3 in Algeria, 7 in Tunisia and 4 in Libya.

On the eve of the American and British invasion of North Africa on 8
November 1942 ("Operation Torch"), some four thousand Jewish prisoners
were being held in camps in the south of Morocco and in Algeria.

On 12 November 1942, a few days after the Allies invaded, the French
troops of the Vichy government went over to the Allies, and an armistice
was concluded.

MY QUESTIONS:

1. Are there lists giving the names of internees at each of the
slave labour camps?

2. Following the armistice, did these “troops of the Vichy government” or
any of the internees take part in subsequent fighting in North Africa
against the Germans and Italians?

3. What did the internees of the Camps do following the armistice? Did
they continue working on the trans-Sahara railway? Could they return to
Vichy France?

Doug Mason
Melbourne
Australia


French SIG #France Slave labour camps in North Africa #france

Doug Mason
 

Dear Siggers,

Please excuse my basic question, but I have been looking at the stories of
the French experience during WW2 for only the past few weeks.

The following is my understanding:

In 1941 (1942 as well?), the Vichy government used interned people to work
on the Trans-Sahara railway.

There were 17 slave labour concentration camps in North Africa: 3 in
Morocco, 3 in Algeria, 7 in Tunisia and 4 in Libya.

On the eve of the American and British invasion of North Africa on 8
November 1942 ("Operation Torch"), some four thousand Jewish prisoners
were being held in camps in the south of Morocco and in Algeria.

On 12 November 1942, a few days after the Allies invaded, the French
troops of the Vichy government went over to the Allies, and an armistice
was concluded.

MY QUESTIONS:

1. Are there lists giving the names of internees at each of the
slave labour camps?

2. Following the armistice, did these “troops of the Vichy government” or
any of the internees take part in subsequent fighting in North Africa
against the Germans and Italians?

3. What did the internees of the Camps do following the armistice? Did
they continue working on the trans-Sahara railway? Could they return to
Vichy France?

Doug Mason
Melbourne
Australia


Should I Call? #general

steven weiss <szome@...>
 

I have phone numbers for two JGFF researchers who have not responded to my
emails and snail mail. Should I call these persons or would that just make
these persons angry? These persons have listed names and towns that bear
relevance to my own search.

Steven Weiss
Chicago
VOLK >from Pazelva
KANTOR and SCHWARTZBERG >from Rokiskis area


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Should I Call? #general

steven weiss <szome@...>
 

I have phone numbers for two JGFF researchers who have not responded to my
emails and snail mail. Should I call these persons or would that just make
these persons angry? These persons have listed names and towns that bear
relevance to my own search.

Steven Weiss
Chicago
VOLK >from Pazelva
KANTOR and SCHWARTZBERG >from Rokiskis area


THE TIMES DIGITAL ARCHIVE #unitedkingdom

Caroline <cfb@...>
 

Hello,
Thank you so much for all the replies re. this newspaper's archive. I have
at last received a reply >from Gale's feedback form as follows:

"Thank you for your interest in the Times Digital Archive. Due to our
agreement with The Times, this database is only available for purchase to
institutions with official libraries such as academic institutions and
public libraries.
Should you wish to access this database, please let me know where you are
located and I will let you know which library closest to you has a
subscription.
Please feel free to contact me for any further information,
Best regards,
Sales Advisor EMEA
Thomson Learning, High Holborn House, 50-51 Bedford Row, London WC1R 4LR
Tel: +44 (0)20 7067 2665 ; Fax: +44 (0)20 7067 2600 ;
www.thomsonlearning.co.uk "

So I'm just waiting to hear >from them re. the nearest subscription to
Lancaster/Preston (neither of these libraries could help beyond indexed
microfilms).
from everyone's replies, I wonder if Lancaster University has a copy...and
will post their response.
Thank you again and thanks to the lady who originally mentioned that it was
free online for a week. Through this posting, I then discovered my gx2
grandfather's death notice, found a copy of his death certificate in France
and this noted his parents names (amazingly!) - which provided an official
document linking him to his parents, sybling, grandparents and great
grandparents and his home community in Germany.
Best wishes,
Caroline Faunce-Brown
cfb@pobox.com
Lancaster, England
Researching; ADLER and Vergottini


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom THE TIMES DIGITAL ARCHIVE #unitedkingdom

Caroline <cfb@...>
 

Hello,
Thank you so much for all the replies re. this newspaper's archive. I have
at last received a reply >from Gale's feedback form as follows:

"Thank you for your interest in the Times Digital Archive. Due to our
agreement with The Times, this database is only available for purchase to
institutions with official libraries such as academic institutions and
public libraries.
Should you wish to access this database, please let me know where you are
located and I will let you know which library closest to you has a
subscription.
Please feel free to contact me for any further information,
Best regards,
Sales Advisor EMEA
Thomson Learning, High Holborn House, 50-51 Bedford Row, London WC1R 4LR
Tel: +44 (0)20 7067 2665 ; Fax: +44 (0)20 7067 2600 ;
www.thomsonlearning.co.uk "

So I'm just waiting to hear >from them re. the nearest subscription to
Lancaster/Preston (neither of these libraries could help beyond indexed
microfilms).
from everyone's replies, I wonder if Lancaster University has a copy...and
will post their response.
Thank you again and thanks to the lady who originally mentioned that it was
free online for a week. Through this posting, I then discovered my gx2
grandfather's death notice, found a copy of his death certificate in France
and this noted his parents names (amazingly!) - which provided an official
document linking him to his parents, sybling, grandparents and great
grandparents and his home community in Germany.
Best wishes,
Caroline Faunce-Brown
cfb@pobox.com
Lancaster, England
Researching; ADLER and Vergottini


Re: Paktu Krow #poland

Jacob D. Goldstein <jake@...>
 

On 2005.04.27, I wrote:

In an 1827 marriage record >from Siennica, both the groom's family
and the bride's family are described as earning a living from
"Paktu Krow." [...] Does anyone know what "Paktu Krow" might
mean?
I want to thank Judy Baston, Jurek Hirschberg, and Tzilla Kratter
who responded privately to my query. No one knew exactly what
"Paktu Krow" meant but they all guessed that both families were in
the business of renting cows. I suppose that if you lived in a town,
you could find milk to purchase, but if you lived in a rural area, a
few kilometers away >from the nearest town, you had the option of
renting a cow if you couldn't afford to purchase one or if you had
to wait some time to obtain your own.

I also want to thank those who thought I may have misread the
document and asked me to send it to them. I ended up placing the
relevant portion on Viewmate < see
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6010

If you have any bright ideas, please write to me.

Jake Goldstein
Boston, USA
mailto:jake@acm.org


JRI Poland #Poland Re: Paktu Krow #poland

Jacob D. Goldstein <jake@...>
 

On 2005.04.27, I wrote:

In an 1827 marriage record >from Siennica, both the groom's family
and the bride's family are described as earning a living from
"Paktu Krow." [...] Does anyone know what "Paktu Krow" might
mean?
I want to thank Judy Baston, Jurek Hirschberg, and Tzilla Kratter
who responded privately to my query. No one knew exactly what
"Paktu Krow" meant but they all guessed that both families were in
the business of renting cows. I suppose that if you lived in a town,
you could find milk to purchase, but if you lived in a rural area, a
few kilometers away >from the nearest town, you had the option of
renting a cow if you couldn't afford to purchase one or if you had
to wait some time to obtain your own.

I also want to thank those who thought I may have misread the
document and asked me to send it to them. I ended up placing the
relevant portion on Viewmate < see
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6010

If you have any bright ideas, please write to me.

Jake Goldstein
Boston, USA
mailto:jake@acm.org


Jewry from Kurland #latvia

Anna v. Villiez <annavonvilliez@...>
 

dear everyone,

i am trying to find out more about the living and working of jews in
Kurland in the 19th century. there is one question i find hard to
answer, maybe someone can help: in what way did the jewry in Kurland
differ >from jews in other parts of eastern europe especially >from the
ones living within the Pale of Settlemen?. I understand they spoke
German (and not Jiddish) as their first language and were influenced by
the German nobility in Kurland.

I would like to know if there is more literature on this subject, for
excample concerning their economical situation towards the end of the
19th century. Was there as much poverty as there was among the jews in
other areas in that time? What where their reasons to emigrate? Was is
the fear of being recruited by the Russian Army or were there also
econonical reasons?

I would appreciate any answer!

Please excuse my not so perfect English.

Best wishes,

Anna v. Villiez
Hamburg, Germany


BRAUN, Elias and Sofia, (and children Moritz, Sara, Anna)


Latvia SIG #Latvia Jewry from Kurland #latvia

Anna v. Villiez <annavonvilliez@...>
 

dear everyone,

i am trying to find out more about the living and working of jews in
Kurland in the 19th century. there is one question i find hard to
answer, maybe someone can help: in what way did the jewry in Kurland
differ >from jews in other parts of eastern europe especially >from the
ones living within the Pale of Settlemen?. I understand they spoke
German (and not Jiddish) as their first language and were influenced by
the German nobility in Kurland.

I would like to know if there is more literature on this subject, for
excample concerning their economical situation towards the end of the
19th century. Was there as much poverty as there was among the jews in
other areas in that time? What where their reasons to emigrate? Was is
the fear of being recruited by the Russian Army or were there also
econonical reasons?

I would appreciate any answer!

Please excuse my not so perfect English.

Best wishes,

Anna v. Villiez
Hamburg, Germany


BRAUN, Elias and Sofia, (and children Moritz, Sara, Anna)


Kossover Society at New Montifiore Cemetery #general

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

In Rabbi Alvin M. Poplack's book "Carved in Granite" he mentions the
Kossover Soceity with a memorial at the New Montifiore Cemetery. Does anyone
know if this Kossover Society is connected with Kosovo in Belarus or is it
connected with the Kosovo in Galicia?
Does anyone know how to contace Rabbi Alvin M. Poplack in Florida?
Thanks
Rose Feldman
Mscibov Belarus www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Mschibow
Ruzhany & Kossovo Belarus www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Ruzhany
Litin Podolia Ukraine www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Litin
Kalinovka Vinnesta Ukraine www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Kalinovka


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Kossover Society at New Montifiore Cemetery #general

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

In Rabbi Alvin M. Poplack's book "Carved in Granite" he mentions the
Kossover Soceity with a memorial at the New Montifiore Cemetery. Does anyone
know if this Kossover Society is connected with Kosovo in Belarus or is it
connected with the Kosovo in Galicia?
Does anyone know how to contace Rabbi Alvin M. Poplack in Florida?
Thanks
Rose Feldman
Mscibov Belarus www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Mschibow
Ruzhany & Kossovo Belarus www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Ruzhany
Litin Podolia Ukraine www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Litin
Kalinovka Vinnesta Ukraine www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Kalinovka


The Survivors Story #general

Mary Klevitsky
 

Hello, Genners,

I think you might be interested in watching this documentary:

Survivors' stories
Teenager Zach Smilovitz interviews his grandparents, who are
Holocaust survivors.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/

On this link (see above), go to the top right and click on the
'Survivors’ story'

Regards,

Mary Klevitsky
Harrisburg, PA
USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The Survivors Story #general

Mary Klevitsky
 

Hello, Genners,

I think you might be interested in watching this documentary:

Survivors' stories
Teenager Zach Smilovitz interviews his grandparents, who are
Holocaust survivors.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/

On this link (see above), go to the top right and click on the
'Survivors’ story'

Regards,

Mary Klevitsky
Harrisburg, PA
USA