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Re: FTDNA Surname Projects - Are you in one? #dna

Sam Vass <SVass@...>
 

On 2006.07.22, Elise Friedman <elisejg@comcast.net> wrote:

I am compiling a list of projects at FTDNA that focus on Jewish
ancestry. With FTDNA's help, I currently have a list of about 70
such surname projects.
Let me make a pitch for an additional solution. There is a "Jewish
DNA Project" at FTDNA that can be reached at http://tinyurl.com/zjbpc
The left side of screen has a request to join the group which you
should select. You can join this project even if you belong to a
surname project and a haplogroup project.

I recommend this because you can find deep relatives >from prior to the
time surnames were adopted. I have found fourteen others >from such
diverse locations as Kovno, L'viv, Oswiecim, Varin, Kamenets, etc.
These individuals with various surnames match my haplogroup and are
exact matches at twelve markers (or one off). Extended testing proves
that they share a rare haplogroup. Note that this also aids in the
understanding of Jewish migration through Europe.

Sam Vass (Weil/Vaider). My current surname was adopted in 1901 in
Hungary.


DNA Research #DNA Re: FTDNA Surname Projects - Are you in one? #dna

Sam Vass <SVass@...>
 

On 2006.07.22, Elise Friedman <elisejg@comcast.net> wrote:

I am compiling a list of projects at FTDNA that focus on Jewish
ancestry. With FTDNA's help, I currently have a list of about 70
such surname projects.
Let me make a pitch for an additional solution. There is a "Jewish
DNA Project" at FTDNA that can be reached at http://tinyurl.com/zjbpc
The left side of screen has a request to join the group which you
should select. You can join this project even if you belong to a
surname project and a haplogroup project.

I recommend this because you can find deep relatives >from prior to the
time surnames were adopted. I have found fourteen others >from such
diverse locations as Kovno, L'viv, Oswiecim, Varin, Kamenets, etc.
These individuals with various surnames match my haplogroup and are
exact matches at twelve markers (or one off). Extended testing proves
that they share a rare haplogroup. Note that this also aids in the
understanding of Jewish migration through Europe.

Sam Vass (Weil/Vaider). My current surname was adopted in 1901 in
Hungary.


Re: Emanuel #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Perets Mett" <p.mett@open.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:8DF33DCE-04AF-484B-9E24-9DDDBCFC9B03@open.ac.uk...


Michael means of course that Emanuel is not used as a Biblical Hebrew name.

I can assure this list, however, that Emanuel **is** used as a Hebrew
name. It became popular in Poland in the 19th century after the Rebbe of
Przedborz, R' Emanuel WELTFRAJD.

It was often pronounced (in keeping with Polish-Jewish tradition) Amniel,
or Emniel, and you can find this form (as well as Emanuel) in the
JRI-Poland indices.
For British Jews the most famous Jewish person of that name in recent times
is the late Chief Rabbi, (Lord) Immanuel Jakobovits. There are numerous results
of a search "Rabbi Immanuel" on the Internet - either surname or first name.
Having said that there is also an Immanuel and St Andrew Church near where I
live in South London.

But then David is a Jewish name - and is also the Patron Saint of Wales.

Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany),
THALHEIMER (Mainbernheim, Germany), KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and
Kleinerdlingen,Germany), LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Russia/Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?)
(Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov, Russia/Belarus)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Emanuel #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Perets Mett" <p.mett@open.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:8DF33DCE-04AF-484B-9E24-9DDDBCFC9B03@open.ac.uk...


Michael means of course that Emanuel is not used as a Biblical Hebrew name.

I can assure this list, however, that Emanuel **is** used as a Hebrew
name. It became popular in Poland in the 19th century after the Rebbe of
Przedborz, R' Emanuel WELTFRAJD.

It was often pronounced (in keeping with Polish-Jewish tradition) Amniel,
or Emniel, and you can find this form (as well as Emanuel) in the
JRI-Poland indices.
For British Jews the most famous Jewish person of that name in recent times
is the late Chief Rabbi, (Lord) Immanuel Jakobovits. There are numerous results
of a search "Rabbi Immanuel" on the Internet - either surname or first name.
Having said that there is also an Immanuel and St Andrew Church near where I
live in South London.

But then David is a Jewish name - and is also the Patron Saint of Wales.

Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany),
THALHEIMER (Mainbernheim, Germany), KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and
Kleinerdlingen,Germany), LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Russia/Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?)
(Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov, Russia/Belarus)


BERINSTEIN from Chicago #general

Stephen Falk <sfalk81162@...>
 

If anyone knows the family of the sisters Shirley BERINSTEIN (b. 1915 in
Chicago) and Lorraine BERINSTEIN (b. 1918 in Chicago, I would be
grateful to reach them or their descendants. BERINSTEIN would have
been their maiden name; I do not know their married names - if they married.

They were the daughters of Jules C. (Julius) BERINSTEIN (b.1880,
Chicago). Jules was a son of Charles BERINSTEIN and Rachel geb. FRANK.
Rachel was born about 1857 in Prussia (probably Posen Prov.) and
emigrated to the US with her parents in about 1860. Rachel's mother was
Flora FRANK, geb. BACH (probably).

I believe that Flora FRANK was a sister of my great great great
grandfather R. Moses Aron BACH (1809, Hohensalza-1879, Breslau).

I would very much like to find the families of Shirley or Lorraine to
see if they have information about their early family history in order
to learn whether this family is the one I am looking for.

Best regards,
Stephen FALK
Wayne, PA, USA
sfalk81162@aol.com

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen BERINSTEIN from Chicago #general

Stephen Falk <sfalk81162@...>
 

If anyone knows the family of the sisters Shirley BERINSTEIN (b. 1915 in
Chicago) and Lorraine BERINSTEIN (b. 1918 in Chicago, I would be
grateful to reach them or their descendants. BERINSTEIN would have
been their maiden name; I do not know their married names - if they married.

They were the daughters of Jules C. (Julius) BERINSTEIN (b.1880,
Chicago). Jules was a son of Charles BERINSTEIN and Rachel geb. FRANK.
Rachel was born about 1857 in Prussia (probably Posen Prov.) and
emigrated to the US with her parents in about 1860. Rachel's mother was
Flora FRANK, geb. BACH (probably).

I believe that Flora FRANK was a sister of my great great great
grandfather R. Moses Aron BACH (1809, Hohensalza-1879, Breslau).

I would very much like to find the families of Shirley or Lorraine to
see if they have information about their early family history in order
to learn whether this family is the one I am looking for.

Best regards,
Stephen FALK
Wayne, PA, USA
sfalk81162@aol.com

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Fw: Jacob/Yitzhak KUTCHER OF Brooklyn #general

Sandra Bergman <sandra@...>
 

Looking for any descendants of Jacob Kutcher was born in Berdichev,
Ukraine. His nephew Sid Kotler of St.Louis visited him in Brooklyn when
Sid was young and still single, probably in the 1930's.

Jacob was the son of Naftoly and Paula (or Pia) Kutcher and the sibling of
Bella, Devora, Sarah, Sosia.

Thank you.

Sandra Bergman
Melbourne, Australia

Researching KUTCHER, MICHOLITZ, BRONSTEIN (New York)
CANTOR (Leeds,UK)BERGMAN, BERKMAN, ETTINGER, TINGER,POSLOVSKI (Lithunia)
TOMPOVSKI, BLACK (Leeds,UK)
SHAPIRO(Leeds,UK)MOSKAL,VELINSKY,MICHAELOVITCH,MICHAILITSCH, GOOBLAR,
ZIFF,GOODMAN (Australia)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Fw: Jacob/Yitzhak KUTCHER OF Brooklyn #general

Sandra Bergman <sandra@...>
 

Looking for any descendants of Jacob Kutcher was born in Berdichev,
Ukraine. His nephew Sid Kotler of St.Louis visited him in Brooklyn when
Sid was young and still single, probably in the 1930's.

Jacob was the son of Naftoly and Paula (or Pia) Kutcher and the sibling of
Bella, Devora, Sarah, Sosia.

Thank you.

Sandra Bergman
Melbourne, Australia

Researching KUTCHER, MICHOLITZ, BRONSTEIN (New York)
CANTOR (Leeds,UK)BERGMAN, BERKMAN, ETTINGER, TINGER,POSLOVSKI (Lithunia)
TOMPOVSKI, BLACK (Leeds,UK)
SHAPIRO(Leeds,UK)MOSKAL,VELINSKY,MICHAELOVITCH,MICHAILITSCH, GOOBLAR,
ZIFF,GOODMAN (Australia)


Help with the town of Kashmin #general

BRENERDA@...
 

Goal: identify town know as Kashmin on a US tombstone in 1868 as it relates
to the birth of deceased's father about 1795. I have searched JewishGen
sources. See details that follow.

After 30 years, the tombstone of my great great grandfather Sylvester Louis
Levy was found in Memphis, TN where he died in 1868. It reveals, after much
study of a worn stone, that he was the son of Kasrie-l LEVY >from the town of
Kashmin.

The family is of "German" heritage with the various censuses using an
assortment of names that relate to Germany.The family arrived in US about 1857
via NYC (passenger list not yet found.) According to the 1876 NYC marriage
license of Sylvester Louis Levy's daughter Mary, she was born in Pleschen,
Posen, Prussia. Pleschen is both the name of a county (my term) and a city.
In the county, in addition to Pleschen are the towns of Neustadt, Jaroczin and
Mischkow. This information I got >from Edward Luft's book the Naturalized Jews
of the Grand Duchy of Posen, in 1834 and 1835. As luck would have it, my Levy
family was among the 90% not Naturalized and thus not listed. Today, I think
Pleschen is now Pleszew, Poland. This threw me as I always assumed family was
from Bavaria.
So, I seek help in identifying the town of Kashmin and how close it may
be to Pleschen. Keep in mind that there is at least 60 years between
Kasrie-l's circa 1795 birth and Mary's 1856 birth.

I can send the Hebrew transcription of the town >from the stone and an actual
picture of the stone. The person who finally was able to read the tombstone
was a elderly orthodox rabbi and I have little doubt as to his accuracy.

I also seek who or what I could contact for the records of the Jews of
Pleschen for the mid 1800's. Actually, any insight into any of this would be
appreciated. I have fully researched my families US history, this is my first
overseas venture.

Thank you for your assistance.

David Brener, Fargo, ND
brenerda@aol.com

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help with the town of Kashmin #general

BRENERDA@...
 

Goal: identify town know as Kashmin on a US tombstone in 1868 as it relates
to the birth of deceased's father about 1795. I have searched JewishGen
sources. See details that follow.

After 30 years, the tombstone of my great great grandfather Sylvester Louis
Levy was found in Memphis, TN where he died in 1868. It reveals, after much
study of a worn stone, that he was the son of Kasrie-l LEVY >from the town of
Kashmin.

The family is of "German" heritage with the various censuses using an
assortment of names that relate to Germany.The family arrived in US about 1857
via NYC (passenger list not yet found.) According to the 1876 NYC marriage
license of Sylvester Louis Levy's daughter Mary, she was born in Pleschen,
Posen, Prussia. Pleschen is both the name of a county (my term) and a city.
In the county, in addition to Pleschen are the towns of Neustadt, Jaroczin and
Mischkow. This information I got >from Edward Luft's book the Naturalized Jews
of the Grand Duchy of Posen, in 1834 and 1835. As luck would have it, my Levy
family was among the 90% not Naturalized and thus not listed. Today, I think
Pleschen is now Pleszew, Poland. This threw me as I always assumed family was
from Bavaria.
So, I seek help in identifying the town of Kashmin and how close it may
be to Pleschen. Keep in mind that there is at least 60 years between
Kasrie-l's circa 1795 birth and Mary's 1856 birth.

I can send the Hebrew transcription of the town >from the stone and an actual
picture of the stone. The person who finally was able to read the tombstone
was a elderly orthodox rabbi and I have little doubt as to his accuracy.

I also seek who or what I could contact for the records of the Jews of
Pleschen for the mid 1800's. Actually, any insight into any of this would be
appreciated. I have fully researched my families US history, this is my first
overseas venture.

Thank you for your assistance.

David Brener, Fargo, ND
brenerda@aol.com

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http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/index.html


Re: Seeking residents located by address in London about 1900 #unitedkingdom

Aubrey Jacobus <zen28027@...>
 

The addresses in the PJTS are suspect - many families seem to be destined to
same address
- maybe a "hostel" set up by the shipping agents

Aubrey Jacobus

----- Original Message -----
From: "DENKERS" <spdenker@rcn.com>
To: "JCR-UK SIG" <jcr-uk@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 4:03 PM
Subject: [jcr-uk] Seeking residents located by address in London about 1900


Are there any records such as London city directories where I can search
residents by street address for the years 1895-1905? I'm especially
interested in who lived at 45 Morgan St. in 1899. My grandfather, upon
arrival at the Poor Jew's Temporary Shelter in London, said he was going
to
the above address.


Re: Seeking residents located by address in London about 1900 #unitedkingdom

N.Landau@...
 


1. Seeking residents located by address in London about 1900

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Subject: Seeking residents located by address in London about 1900
From: "DENKERS" <spdenker@rcn.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 11:03:06 -0400
X-Message-Number: 1

Are there any records such as London city directories where I can search
residents by street address for the years 1895-1905? I'm especially
interested in who lived at 45 Morgan St. in 1899. My grandfather, upon
arrival at the Poor Jew's Temporary Shelter in London, said he was going
to
the above address.

Yes, Kelly's Directory which were annually published and are organised by
London district.

I recently went to a local history library and looked up my own family.

The entries are ordered by the order of the houses in the street.

Unless you can get someone to go there you would need to contact the Tower
Hamlets History Library - other libraries such as the British Library would
have it.

Nick Landau
London, UK


Re: jcr-uk digest: July 22, 2006 #unitedkingdom

jeremy frankel
 

Dear Elayne,

Yes, the London Post Office did issue street directories and one
section was in street order, so that one could look up Morgan Street,
for example. However, most of the entries are commercial, not
residential. There is also an A-Z listing by last name.

The Mormons have microfilmed many of these Post Office, or "Kelly"
directories, so I would suggest that you order it >from your nearest
Family History Center and then you can become more familiar with
these directories.

1. Seeking residents located by address in London about 1900


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: Seeking residents located by address in London about 1900 #unitedkingdom

Aubrey Jacobus <zen28027@...>
 

The addresses in the PJTS are suspect - many families seem to be destined to
same address
- maybe a "hostel" set up by the shipping agents

Aubrey Jacobus

----- Original Message -----
From: "DENKERS" <spdenker@rcn.com>
To: "JCR-UK SIG" <jcr-uk@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 4:03 PM
Subject: [jcr-uk] Seeking residents located by address in London about 1900


Are there any records such as London city directories where I can search
residents by street address for the years 1895-1905? I'm especially
interested in who lived at 45 Morgan St. in 1899. My grandfather, upon
arrival at the Poor Jew's Temporary Shelter in London, said he was going
to
the above address.


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: Seeking residents located by address in London about 1900 #unitedkingdom

N.Landau@...
 


1. Seeking residents located by address in London about 1900

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Seeking residents located by address in London about 1900
From: "DENKERS" <spdenker@rcn.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 11:03:06 -0400
X-Message-Number: 1

Are there any records such as London city directories where I can search
residents by street address for the years 1895-1905? I'm especially
interested in who lived at 45 Morgan St. in 1899. My grandfather, upon
arrival at the Poor Jew's Temporary Shelter in London, said he was going
to
the above address.

Yes, Kelly's Directory which were annually published and are organised by
London district.

I recently went to a local history library and looked up my own family.

The entries are ordered by the order of the houses in the street.

Unless you can get someone to go there you would need to contact the Tower
Hamlets History Library - other libraries such as the British Library would
have it.

Nick Landau
London, UK


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: jcr-uk digest: July 22, 2006 #unitedkingdom

jeremy frankel
 

Dear Elayne,

Yes, the London Post Office did issue street directories and one
section was in street order, so that one could look up Morgan Street,
for example. However, most of the entries are commercial, not
residential. There is also an A-Z listing by last name.

The Mormons have microfilmed many of these Post Office, or "Kelly"
directories, so I would suggest that you order it >from your nearest
Family History Center and then you can become more familiar with
these directories.

1. Seeking residents located by address in London about 1900


PEARL nee PACHTER from Siemiatycze #general

tina levine
 

My great-aunt, Sarah PEARL, (Sarah Golde bat David) nee PACHTER, immigrated
from Siemiatycze to NYC in 1909. She married Abraham Pearl, nad had 3 children.
She died in NYC in December 1928 at the age of 33. Her children Morris, Melvin
and Laura were placed in an orphanage in Brooklyn, NY and later moved to
Detroit, Michigan, USA.

I am trying to contact the children and/or grandchildren of Morris, Melvin and
Laura. Any information will be greatly appreciated.

Tina Pachter Levine
(granddaughter of Louis Pachter)
NYC, USA

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen PEARL nee PACHTER from Siemiatycze #general

tina levine
 

My great-aunt, Sarah PEARL, (Sarah Golde bat David) nee PACHTER, immigrated
from Siemiatycze to NYC in 1909. She married Abraham Pearl, nad had 3 children.
She died in NYC in December 1928 at the age of 33. Her children Morris, Melvin
and Laura were placed in an orphanage in Brooklyn, NY and later moved to
Detroit, Michigan, USA.

I am trying to contact the children and/or grandchildren of Morris, Melvin and
Laura. Any information will be greatly appreciated.

Tina Pachter Levine
(granddaughter of Louis Pachter)
NYC, USA

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Re: Emanuel #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 7/23/2006, tulse04-news@yahoo.co.uk writes:

<< For British Jews the most famous Jewish person of that name in recent
times is the late Chief Rabbi, (Lord) Immanuel Jakobovits. There are numerous
results of a search "Rabbi Immanuel" on the Internet - either surname or first
name. Having said that there is also an Immanuel and St Andrew Church near
where I live in South London.

<< But then David is a Jewish name - and is also the Patron Saint of Wales. >>

==And I've often been asked why I have an Irish name (which, incidentally,
is neither my "Jewish" name nor my "given" name)

==Incidentally, I have learned >from Perets Mett that the Przedborzer Rebbe
was given the hitherto uncommon name on the advice of a Hassidic Wunderrebbe.
Subsequent Emanuels were named apparently in honor of this Przedborzer Rebbe.
Amniel and Emniel (the pronunciations, according to Perets), perhaps
explains the observed shift to Emil for Menachem, after around 1890.

Michael Bernet, New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Emanuel #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 7/23/2006, tulse04-news@yahoo.co.uk writes:

<< For British Jews the most famous Jewish person of that name in recent
times is the late Chief Rabbi, (Lord) Immanuel Jakobovits. There are numerous
results of a search "Rabbi Immanuel" on the Internet - either surname or first
name. Having said that there is also an Immanuel and St Andrew Church near
where I live in South London.

<< But then David is a Jewish name - and is also the Patron Saint of Wales. >>

==And I've often been asked why I have an Irish name (which, incidentally,
is neither my "Jewish" name nor my "given" name)

==Incidentally, I have learned >from Perets Mett that the Przedborzer Rebbe
was given the hitherto uncommon name on the advice of a Hassidic Wunderrebbe.
Subsequent Emanuels were named apparently in honor of this Przedborzer Rebbe.
Amniel and Emniel (the pronunciations, according to Perets), perhaps
explains the observed shift to Emil for Menachem, after around 1890.

Michael Bernet, New York