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Re: Superstitions #unitedkingdom

Martyn Woolf <martyn@...>
 

The "Keys on the Table" superstition was very strong in my house but I do
not think it was necessarily >from Eastern Europe. I have not yet found any
of my forebears who came >from that area so perhaps the superstition was more
widely held.

It still gives me the shudders when I see keys in the wrong place and is
just about the only superstition that I have. Oh, excuse me whilst I avoid
walking under that ladder and dash it, a black cat has just crossed my path.
By the way, did you remember to turn over the change in your pocket at the
last New Moon?

Martyn Woolf

-----Original Message-----
From: malcolm katz [mailto:malkikatz9361@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 01 August 2006 08:46
To: JCR-UK SIG
Subject: [jcr-uk] Superstitions

Many thanks for the replies keep them coming as its
very intresting to know why i do these things.
I was also bought up with the worst thing that can
happen is a bird flies into your house but it depends
what bird!!
This is very much lost in the mists of time to me,But
i believe it sygnifies also death being bought into
the house.
Please believe i had a very happy house and modern
thinking family,But on the keys on table and birds
there was genuine fear and concern.
So again if anyone knows this one i find it intresting
and going by replies so do other people.
Kind regards
Malki Katz
London





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JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom RE: Superstitions #unitedkingdom

Martyn Woolf <martyn@...>
 

The "Keys on the Table" superstition was very strong in my house but I do
not think it was necessarily >from Eastern Europe. I have not yet found any
of my forebears who came >from that area so perhaps the superstition was more
widely held.

It still gives me the shudders when I see keys in the wrong place and is
just about the only superstition that I have. Oh, excuse me whilst I avoid
walking under that ladder and dash it, a black cat has just crossed my path.
By the way, did you remember to turn over the change in your pocket at the
last New Moon?

Martyn Woolf

-----Original Message-----
From: malcolm katz [mailto:malkikatz9361@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 01 August 2006 08:46
To: JCR-UK SIG
Subject: [jcr-uk] Superstitions

Many thanks for the replies keep them coming as its
very intresting to know why i do these things.
I was also bought up with the worst thing that can
happen is a bird flies into your house but it depends
what bird!!
This is very much lost in the mists of time to me,But
i believe it sygnifies also death being bought into
the house.
Please believe i had a very happy house and modern
thinking family,But on the keys on table and birds
there was genuine fear and concern.
So again if anyone knows this one i find it intresting
and going by replies so do other people.
Kind regards
Malki Katz
London





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Esther GREENBERG nee DRUSKOWITZ/GOLDSHMIDT #unitedkingdom

Susan Goldsmith
 

Dear SIG,
I am seeking cousins: the family of Esther GREENBERG, nee DRUSKOWITZ. Esther emigrated >from Lithuania to England with her parents Avraham, a Rabbi and his wife Henne Leia (later Lillian) nee GOLDSHMIDT. I believe Esther settled in Liverpool.

Rabbi Avraham Druskowitz was a Rabbi in Seta, near Kaunas and wrote a book that was publishd in Kaunas in 1933. I assume they emigrated after that, although it is possible that they emigrated as early as 1912. I believe a brother Yochanan and sister Sarah also emigrated, but I know Sarah traveled on to the US and then Israel.

I have searched the Jewish Chronicle for DRUSKOWITZ(VITZ)(VICH) to no avail; for Esther GREENBERG, I have found announcements of grandchildren and great grandchildren, but am not sure if the Esther mentioned is my relative. I do not know Esther's husband's first name or the names of their children. If anyone knows the family please contact me privately. Thank you for your kindness.

Best Regards,
Susan Goldsmith
San Francisco Bay Area USA


~


Yiddish Theater Notables - Mt. Hebron Cemetery in NY #yiddish

David Harris <dorsharris@...>
 

It was brought to my attention by Judi Langer-Surnamer Caplan, that
Mt. Hebron Cemetery in Queens, NY has a section of burial plots for
members of the Yiddish Theatre Alliance. The Alliance section is
located in Block 67. Judi was kind enough to include a photo of the
grave of Maurice Schwartz, a founder of the Alliance and a noted
actor on New York's Yiddish stage. If interested in an email photo
attachment of the grave stone, please
email me directly at
<dorsharris@verizon.net>

A listing of names in that section can be found at
http://stevemorse.org/vital/cem.php?cem=http://www.mounthebroncemetery.com/search.asp&fromyear=0000&toyear=9999

Be sure to copy the entire URL into your browser.

For IAJGS attendees joining the bus trip to Mt. Hebron, if there's
time to spare, you may wish to visit the Yiddish Theatre Alliance
Section. Possibly, a future YT&V web page could be designed to
include photos >from Mt. Hebron and other cemeteries with Yiddish
theater and Vaudeville notables. So, if taking photos at the
cemetery, please try to take additional photos at the Yiddish Theatre
Alliance Section.

David W. Harris
Moderator, YT&V


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Esther GREENBERG nee DRUSKOWITZ/GOLDSHMIDT #unitedkingdom

Susan Goldsmith
 

Dear SIG,
I am seeking cousins: the family of Esther GREENBERG, nee DRUSKOWITZ. Esther emigrated >from Lithuania to England with her parents Avraham, a Rabbi and his wife Henne Leia (later Lillian) nee GOLDSHMIDT. I believe Esther settled in Liverpool.

Rabbi Avraham Druskowitz was a Rabbi in Seta, near Kaunas and wrote a book that was publishd in Kaunas in 1933. I assume they emigrated after that, although it is possible that they emigrated as early as 1912. I believe a brother Yochanan and sister Sarah also emigrated, but I know Sarah traveled on to the US and then Israel.

I have searched the Jewish Chronicle for DRUSKOWITZ(VITZ)(VICH) to no avail; for Esther GREENBERG, I have found announcements of grandchildren and great grandchildren, but am not sure if the Esther mentioned is my relative. I do not know Esther's husband's first name or the names of their children. If anyone knows the family please contact me privately. Thank you for your kindness.

Best Regards,
Susan Goldsmith
San Francisco Bay Area USA


~


Yiddish Theatre and Vadeville #YiddishTheatre Yiddish Theater Notables - Mt. Hebron Cemetery in NY #yiddish

David Harris <dorsharris@...>
 

It was brought to my attention by Judi Langer-Surnamer Caplan, that
Mt. Hebron Cemetery in Queens, NY has a section of burial plots for
members of the Yiddish Theatre Alliance. The Alliance section is
located in Block 67. Judi was kind enough to include a photo of the
grave of Maurice Schwartz, a founder of the Alliance and a noted
actor on New York's Yiddish stage. If interested in an email photo
attachment of the grave stone, please
email me directly at
<dorsharris@verizon.net>

A listing of names in that section can be found at
http://stevemorse.org/vital/cem.php?cem=http://www.mounthebroncemetery.com/search.asp&fromyear=0000&toyear=9999

Be sure to copy the entire URL into your browser.

For IAJGS attendees joining the bus trip to Mt. Hebron, if there's
time to spare, you may wish to visit the Yiddish Theatre Alliance
Section. Possibly, a future YT&V web page could be designed to
include photos >from Mt. Hebron and other cemeteries with Yiddish
theater and Vaudeville notables. So, if taking photos at the
cemetery, please try to take additional photos at the Yiddish Theatre
Alliance Section.

David W. Harris
Moderator, YT&V


Superstitions #unitedkingdom

Shirley Collier <shirley.collier@...>
 

I share both those fears of keys on the table and a bird bringing death in
the house. One I have control over so have never put it to the test but a
bird came into our house when I was a child and this was followed shortly
afterwards by a death. I have no idea where these superstitions
originated but my family came >from Poland.

SHIRLEY COLLIER
East of London UK
Member of JGSGB Council
Regional Group Co-ordinator

Researching:
BIERMAN/BERMAN- Piesk,Lublin/New York/London
SHEVA EICHEL - London/New York
HARRIS (or derivations)- Sieradz/Hull/London
HOROWITZ - Siedlce
ROZAINSKY/WAPNIARZ - Lomza/Czestochowa/Pultusk/New York/Swansea/London
TILLES/TRINKENREICH - Tarnow/Krakow/Newcastle/London


Re: Superstitions #unitedkingdom

Frances Derhy <Frances@...>
 

My grandparents originated in Poland and Belarus but I never heard of =
the keys and birds superstitions. Re fear of death - they would never =
place beds facing the door - (to make it harder to carry you out!)

Two things I do remember well are connected to Havdallah- it was =
forbidden for women and girls to drink the wine - if we did, we'd grow a =
beard, and if we didn't hold the Havdallah candle high enough we'd have =
a midget for a husband.=20

Frances Derhy
Jerusalem


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Superstitions #unitedkingdom

Shirley Collier <shirley.collier@...>
 

I share both those fears of keys on the table and a bird bringing death in
the house. One I have control over so have never put it to the test but a
bird came into our house when I was a child and this was followed shortly
afterwards by a death. I have no idea where these superstitions
originated but my family came >from Poland.

SHIRLEY COLLIER
East of London UK
Member of JGSGB Council
Regional Group Co-ordinator

Researching:
BIERMAN/BERMAN- Piesk,Lublin/New York/London
SHEVA EICHEL - London/New York
HARRIS (or derivations)- Sieradz/Hull/London
HOROWITZ - Siedlce
ROZAINSKY/WAPNIARZ - Lomza/Czestochowa/Pultusk/New York/Swansea/London
TILLES/TRINKENREICH - Tarnow/Krakow/Newcastle/London


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom RE: Superstitions #unitedkingdom

Frances Derhy <Frances@...>
 

My grandparents originated in Poland and Belarus but I never heard of =
the keys and birds superstitions. Re fear of death - they would never =
place beds facing the door - (to make it harder to carry you out!)

Two things I do remember well are connected to Havdallah- it was =
forbidden for women and girls to drink the wine - if we did, we'd grow a =
beard, and if we didn't hold the Havdallah candle high enough we'd have =
a midget for a husband.=20

Frances Derhy
Jerusalem


BDSandV Birds of a Feather Meeting - Aug. 13, 2006, IAJGS Conference #galicia

Carole Feinberg
 

Dear Fellow Galicianers,

This is to remind all IAJGS Conference goers that we
will hold a BDSandV Birds of a Feather meeting Sunday,
Aug. 13, 2006, 1:15 - 2:30 p.m. in the Brecht Room,
seventh floor.

Our region covers the towns of Boryslaw, Drohobycz,
Dobromil, Sambor, Stary Sambor and vicinity in Eastern
Galicia.

We will feature a filmed interview by Pamela
Weisberger of Drohobycz native David Einsiedler.

This is a wonderful opportunity to shmooze and network
with others whose relatives came >from our region of
eastern Galicia.

Please let me hear >from you privately if you have some
material or knowledge you'd like to share at the
meeting.

BDSandV has a discussion group. To subscribe, go to:
<http://lyris.jewishgen.org/ListManager>

We look forward to seeing old and new friends soon.

Best wishes,

Carole Glick Feinberg
Atlanta, GA


Material for August Issue of The Galitzianer #galicia

Edward Goldstein <editor.TheGalitzianer@...>
 

In order to accommodate timely reports >from the IAJGS conference, we
have delayed publication of the August issue by about three weeks.

Articles, etc., that do not require IAJGS Conference input should be
submitted by 12 August.

Material about the IAJGS Conference should be delivered ASAP, but no
later than 23 August.

--ed


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia BDSandV Birds of a Feather Meeting - Aug. 13, 2006, IAJGS Conference #galicia

Carole Feinberg
 

Dear Fellow Galicianers,

This is to remind all IAJGS Conference goers that we
will hold a BDSandV Birds of a Feather meeting Sunday,
Aug. 13, 2006, 1:15 - 2:30 p.m. in the Brecht Room,
seventh floor.

Our region covers the towns of Boryslaw, Drohobycz,
Dobromil, Sambor, Stary Sambor and vicinity in Eastern
Galicia.

We will feature a filmed interview by Pamela
Weisberger of Drohobycz native David Einsiedler.

This is a wonderful opportunity to shmooze and network
with others whose relatives came >from our region of
eastern Galicia.

Please let me hear >from you privately if you have some
material or knowledge you'd like to share at the
meeting.

BDSandV has a discussion group. To subscribe, go to:
<http://lyris.jewishgen.org/ListManager>

We look forward to seeing old and new friends soon.

Best wishes,

Carole Glick Feinberg
Atlanta, GA


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Material for August Issue of The Galitzianer #galicia

Edward Goldstein <editor.TheGalitzianer@...>
 

In order to accommodate timely reports >from the IAJGS conference, we
have delayed publication of the August issue by about three weeks.

Articles, etc., that do not require IAJGS Conference input should be
submitted by 12 August.

Material about the IAJGS Conference should be delivered ASAP, but no
later than 23 August.

--ed


Superstitions #unitedkingdom

malcolm katz <malkikatz9361@...>
 

Many thanks for the replies keep them coming as its
very intresting to know why i do these things.
I was also bought up with the worst thing that can
happen is a bird flies into your house but it depends
what bird!!
This is very much lost in the mists of time to me,But
i believe it sygnifies also death being bought into
the house.
Please believe i had a very happy house and modern
thinking family,But on the keys on table and birds
there was genuine fear and concern.
So again if anyone knows this one i find it intresting
and going by replies so do other people.
Kind regards
Malki Katz
London





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JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Superstitions #unitedkingdom

malcolm katz <malkikatz9361@...>
 

Many thanks for the replies keep them coming as its
very intresting to know why i do these things.
I was also bought up with the worst thing that can
happen is a bird flies into your house but it depends
what bird!!
This is very much lost in the mists of time to me,But
i believe it sygnifies also death being bought into
the house.
Please believe i had a very happy house and modern
thinking family,But on the keys on table and birds
there was genuine fear and concern.
So again if anyone knows this one i find it intresting
and going by replies so do other people.
Kind regards
Malki Katz
London





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1770 Bay Ridge Pkwy, Brooklyn #general

Monica Talmor
 

I need help finding out who manages the building at 1770 75th St. in
Brooklyn, also known as Bay Ridge Parkway. I don't know if it's a condo
complex, or private apartments, or rented apartments, but it has multiple
residents and I'm trying to find out what happened to a family that lived
there in the 1960's. I know about the ACRIS website, and what I found there
is that the mortgage on the property was all paid off in 1993, and there is
a person's name there, but I'm not sure that's the place to start. Maybe
someone on this list lives close to that address and can give me a phone
number to contact.

Thanks for any help,

Monica Talmor
Hamden, CT


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 1770 Bay Ridge Pkwy, Brooklyn #general

Monica Talmor
 

I need help finding out who manages the building at 1770 75th St. in
Brooklyn, also known as Bay Ridge Parkway. I don't know if it's a condo
complex, or private apartments, or rented apartments, but it has multiple
residents and I'm trying to find out what happened to a family that lived
there in the 1960's. I know about the ACRIS website, and what I found there
is that the mortgage on the property was all paid off in 1993, and there is
a person's name there, but I'm not sure that's the place to start. Maybe
someone on this list lives close to that address and can give me a phone
number to contact.

Thanks for any help,

Monica Talmor
Hamden, CT


Montefiore(NY) Cemetery Photo Request #general

Connie Fisher Newhan
 

Dear All-
If anyone will be visiting the Montefiore Cemetery in St. Albans, NY, I
would be most grateful if I could get photos of my great grandparents graves.
I have already purchased photos directly >from the cemetery but they are
Polaroids and of poor quality.

I do have the exact locations of both graves.

Please contact me directly if this is something you might be able to do.

Best Regards,
Connie Fisher Newhan (#1272)
California, USA
FISHER/FISCHER/FISZER, FISZEL (Warszawa& Bedzin, Poland),S(Z)PRINGER, ,
HERSZLIKOWICZ, HAMBURGER (Bedzin, Lagiza, Zarki, Poland), GERSTEN (Obertyn,
Galacia) BARSKA/BARSKY/BARSKIY(Odessa), GOLDBERG (Sokolka?), FELDMAN
(Veliuona,Kaunas), CAHN (Koln), FRIEDSAM (Bodendorf, Coln? Germany, Pittsburgh, PA),
NEWHAN/NEUHAN/NEUHAHN (Hesse Cassel, Meimbressen, Germany, Baltimore, MD),
BOHORODCZANER (Potok Zloty, Ukraine), LEVINE, BLUM, ROTH, ROCKOVITZ, ABRAMS, RABINOWITZ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Montefiore(NY) Cemetery Photo Request #general

Connie Fisher Newhan
 

Dear All-
If anyone will be visiting the Montefiore Cemetery in St. Albans, NY, I
would be most grateful if I could get photos of my great grandparents graves.
I have already purchased photos directly >from the cemetery but they are
Polaroids and of poor quality.

I do have the exact locations of both graves.

Please contact me directly if this is something you might be able to do.

Best Regards,
Connie Fisher Newhan (#1272)
California, USA
FISHER/FISCHER/FISZER, FISZEL (Warszawa& Bedzin, Poland),S(Z)PRINGER, ,
HERSZLIKOWICZ, HAMBURGER (Bedzin, Lagiza, Zarki, Poland), GERSTEN (Obertyn,
Galacia) BARSKA/BARSKY/BARSKIY(Odessa), GOLDBERG (Sokolka?), FELDMAN
(Veliuona,Kaunas), CAHN (Koln), FRIEDSAM (Bodendorf, Coln? Germany, Pittsburgh, PA),
NEWHAN/NEUHAN/NEUHAHN (Hesse Cassel, Meimbressen, Germany, Baltimore, MD),
BOHORODCZANER (Potok Zloty, Ukraine), LEVINE, BLUM, ROTH, ROCKOVITZ, ABRAMS, RABINOWITZ