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Re: Locating Jewish records for NYC, c. 1910--1930 #general

Janette Silverman <jsilverman@...>
 

Clarification on info posted earlier about JTS:
The Jewish Theological Seminary is not affiliated with Yeshiva
University - JTS is the academic arm on the east coast connected with
United Synagogue (Conservative), Yeshiva University's Seminary is Rabbi
Isaac Elchanan Theological Seminary

Janette Silverman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Locating Jewish records for NYC, c. 1910--1930 #general

Janette Silverman <jsilverman@...>
 

Clarification on info posted earlier about JTS:
The Jewish Theological Seminary is not affiliated with Yeshiva
University - JTS is the academic arm on the east coast connected with
United Synagogue (Conservative), Yeshiva University's Seminary is Rabbi
Isaac Elchanan Theological Seminary

Janette Silverman


Rabbi Robber SEREBRENIK: Vienna-Luxemburg #austria-czech

milton koch <miltonkoch@...>
 

I am searching of information about Rabbi Robber SEREBRENIK, who resided
in Vienna in the 1920s, then became Grand Rabbi of Luxemburg. Where was
he born, and what other information is available about him.
Thank you,

Milton Koch
Researching KOCH,BARBASCZ,GINSBERG=20


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Rabbi Robber SEREBRENIK: Vienna-Luxemburg #austria-czech

milton koch <miltonkoch@...>
 

I am searching of information about Rabbi Robber SEREBRENIK, who resided
in Vienna in the 1920s, then became Grand Rabbi of Luxemburg. Where was
he born, and what other information is available about him.
Thank you,

Milton Koch
Researching KOCH,BARBASCZ,GINSBERG=20


Re: HAM(M)ERSHLAG/KAFKA FAMILY of Bohemia #austria-czech

Amira Kohn-Trattner <amira.kt@...>
 

Many of us are looking forward for Celia Male's research on the Kafkas (work
in progress). Meanwhile as Ron already knows, my great grandmother Maria
KAFKA was Hermann KAFKA AND Philip KAFKA'S first cousin. Her father, my
gt.gt.grandfather Leopold KAFKA was the brother of Jakob KAFKA - Franz
KAFKA'S grandfather - who is buried in Osek or Wossek (in German) where they
lived for many years on the Jewish Street # 30. The history of Leopold
KAFKA and how he came to Osek is still unclear (perhaps Celia's research
will shed further light on that) but I also know he was a farm manager >from
Bukowina.

In order to find out where the Jews of Osek came from, I went to Beth
Hatefutsoth - Museum of the Jewish Diaspora -when I was in Israel - and got
the following information about Osek (Wossek by Rokicany) which I am
summarizing:

A village in the district of Plzen, Central Bohemia, Czech Republic
Part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire until 1918 when it became part of the
Republic of Czechoslovakia. A small Jewish Community was established at
Osek around 1700. The Baron WALDSTEIN built several houses for them at the
back of his Castle's walls. These houses were the "Jewish Street". The
street was fenced and on the Sabbath and Jewish Holidays carts were not
allowed to enter.

At the beginning of the 19th century the community expanded and in 1817 it
consecrated a prayer house and a cemetery. The oldest family in the
community was STADLER (some information about the Stadlers included as
well). In 1870, when Jews were permitted to settle at Rokicany, the
subdistrict town, most of the Jews of Osek moved to Rokicany and were among
the founders of its community. They however kept looking after the cemetery
of Osek and some of them were even buried there when they died.

Happy Chanukah to all,
Amira Kohn-Trattner
New York, N.Y.


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: HAM(M)ERSHLAG/KAFKA FAMILY of Bohemia #austria-czech

Amira Kohn-Trattner <amira.kt@...>
 

Many of us are looking forward for Celia Male's research on the Kafkas (work
in progress). Meanwhile as Ron already knows, my great grandmother Maria
KAFKA was Hermann KAFKA AND Philip KAFKA'S first cousin. Her father, my
gt.gt.grandfather Leopold KAFKA was the brother of Jakob KAFKA - Franz
KAFKA'S grandfather - who is buried in Osek or Wossek (in German) where they
lived for many years on the Jewish Street # 30. The history of Leopold
KAFKA and how he came to Osek is still unclear (perhaps Celia's research
will shed further light on that) but I also know he was a farm manager >from
Bukowina.

In order to find out where the Jews of Osek came from, I went to Beth
Hatefutsoth - Museum of the Jewish Diaspora -when I was in Israel - and got
the following information about Osek (Wossek by Rokicany) which I am
summarizing:

A village in the district of Plzen, Central Bohemia, Czech Republic
Part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire until 1918 when it became part of the
Republic of Czechoslovakia. A small Jewish Community was established at
Osek around 1700. The Baron WALDSTEIN built several houses for them at the
back of his Castle's walls. These houses were the "Jewish Street". The
street was fenced and on the Sabbath and Jewish Holidays carts were not
allowed to enter.

At the beginning of the 19th century the community expanded and in 1817 it
consecrated a prayer house and a cemetery. The oldest family in the
community was STADLER (some information about the Stadlers included as
well). In 1870, when Jews were permitted to settle at Rokicany, the
subdistrict town, most of the Jews of Osek moved to Rokicany and were among
the founders of its community. They however kept looking after the cemetery
of Osek and some of them were even buried there when they died.

Happy Chanukah to all,
Amira Kohn-Trattner
New York, N.Y.


Jewish community of Prossnitz #austria-czech

Amira Kohn-Trattner <amira.kt@...>
 

Dan Huth wrote that his gr.grandfather was born in Prossnitz, (Prostejov)
Moravia. So was my gt. grandfather ADOLF FISCHEL - born 14.4.1847 Adolf's
parents Ephraim FISCHEL AND Rachel KAUDERS. Perhaps they knew each other..
(don't know what kind of a Jewish Community existed there at that time).
Adolf FISCHEL was buried in Vienna on March 23, 1915. My great aunt, Adolf
and (Anna's MICHALUP'S) eldest daughter, Ottilie FISCHEL (later RAUDNITZ) was
born in Prague in 1868 so my great grandparents lived in Prague at that
time. They moved to Vienna where my other great aunts and uncles and my
grandmother were born. On a Marriage Certificate >from Vienna 1887 it states
that Adolf FISCHEL is marrying my great grandmother's sister Carolina
MICHALUP ((whose parents were Seligman and Judith BRANDIS) after my great
grandmother (Anna) died shortly after she gave birth to my grandmother. It
also states that Adolf is a "buchhalter aus Prag." To follow up on your
question, Dan, where does one look for records? Is it the National Archives
in Prague or are there any local records of the Jewish Community in
Prossnitz, for example? Here are a few additional questions that perhaps
someone could answer:

1. A death certificate sent to me >from the State Archives in Prague states
that Adolf Fischel (I gave them his birth date) died in Prasseditz Nr. 27
district of Teplice on June 6th, 1904. It seems to me that this is not my
Adolf FISCHEL? How can this be best verified?

2. Is Prasseditz also Prossnitz or is this a different place entirely?

3. Caroline FISCHEL'S parents, as noted above are Seligman and Judith
BRANDIS - Caroline's marriage certificate states that Adolf is marrying a
Caroline MICHALUP and in the burial information I received >from Vienna it
states that her maiden name was BITTMAN?

Lastly, Beth Hatefutsoth - the Museum of the Jewish Diaspora in Israel -
www.bh.org.il has listings of the Communities with its Jewish History (in my
next posting I'll write about Osek - Wossek and the information Beit
Hatefutsoth provided) - Haven't inquired yet about Prossnitz.

Happy Chanukah
Amira Kohn-Trattner
New York, N.Y.


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Jewish community of Prossnitz #austria-czech

Amira Kohn-Trattner <amira.kt@...>
 

Dan Huth wrote that his gr.grandfather was born in Prossnitz, (Prostejov)
Moravia. So was my gt. grandfather ADOLF FISCHEL - born 14.4.1847 Adolf's
parents Ephraim FISCHEL AND Rachel KAUDERS. Perhaps they knew each other..
(don't know what kind of a Jewish Community existed there at that time).
Adolf FISCHEL was buried in Vienna on March 23, 1915. My great aunt, Adolf
and (Anna's MICHALUP'S) eldest daughter, Ottilie FISCHEL (later RAUDNITZ) was
born in Prague in 1868 so my great grandparents lived in Prague at that
time. They moved to Vienna where my other great aunts and uncles and my
grandmother were born. On a Marriage Certificate >from Vienna 1887 it states
that Adolf FISCHEL is marrying my great grandmother's sister Carolina
MICHALUP ((whose parents were Seligman and Judith BRANDIS) after my great
grandmother (Anna) died shortly after she gave birth to my grandmother. It
also states that Adolf is a "buchhalter aus Prag." To follow up on your
question, Dan, where does one look for records? Is it the National Archives
in Prague or are there any local records of the Jewish Community in
Prossnitz, for example? Here are a few additional questions that perhaps
someone could answer:

1. A death certificate sent to me >from the State Archives in Prague states
that Adolf Fischel (I gave them his birth date) died in Prasseditz Nr. 27
district of Teplice on June 6th, 1904. It seems to me that this is not my
Adolf FISCHEL? How can this be best verified?

2. Is Prasseditz also Prossnitz or is this a different place entirely?

3. Caroline FISCHEL'S parents, as noted above are Seligman and Judith
BRANDIS - Caroline's marriage certificate states that Adolf is marrying a
Caroline MICHALUP and in the burial information I received >from Vienna it
states that her maiden name was BITTMAN?

Lastly, Beth Hatefutsoth - the Museum of the Jewish Diaspora in Israel -
www.bh.org.il has listings of the Communities with its Jewish History (in my
next posting I'll write about Osek - Wossek and the information Beit
Hatefutsoth provided) - Haven't inquired yet about Prossnitz.

Happy Chanukah
Amira Kohn-Trattner
New York, N.Y.


More on Trebitsch #austria-czech

Henry Wellisch <henry.kelwel@...>
 

I just had another look at Judaica Bohemiae VII, 1971 and the
holdings of the Prague Jewish Museum for Trebitsch. I did provide the
website of this SIG with a detailed description of what one may find in
the museum on Jewish community archives of Bohemia and Moravia.
Anyway, here is what the museum has on Trebitsch.

Constitution, 1879-1908
Chronicles and Pinkasbooks, 1674-1905
Statistics, list of members, lists of names, 1799-1922
Registration of documents, 1880-1934
Religious matters, rabbi, 1881-1911
Social care, assistance for sick, poor, 1825-1939
Papers of community employees, 1840-1937
Community finances: 1795-1940
Endowments, 1839-1936
Registration documents, name changes, BMD certificates, 1833-1934
Circumcision books, 1861-1883
Burial society, 1867-1935
Lists and plan of synagogue seats, 1800-1937
School records, 1844-1868
Local societies, 1831-1933
Privae papers, 1821-1933 (these are listed by name)

This is a partial list of items of some interest to researchers. The birth,
marriage and death registers of Trebitsch (about 1783 -1943) and other
communities >from Bohemia and Moravia were transferred to the
Czech central archives in Prague. However in the holdings listed above
there seems to be a lot of interesting stuff, such as Pinkasbooks, list of
synagogue seats, circumcision books and others.

Henry Wellisch
Toronto


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech More on Trebitsch #austria-czech

Henry Wellisch <henry.kelwel@...>
 

I just had another look at Judaica Bohemiae VII, 1971 and the
holdings of the Prague Jewish Museum for Trebitsch. I did provide the
website of this SIG with a detailed description of what one may find in
the museum on Jewish community archives of Bohemia and Moravia.
Anyway, here is what the museum has on Trebitsch.

Constitution, 1879-1908
Chronicles and Pinkasbooks, 1674-1905
Statistics, list of members, lists of names, 1799-1922
Registration of documents, 1880-1934
Religious matters, rabbi, 1881-1911
Social care, assistance for sick, poor, 1825-1939
Papers of community employees, 1840-1937
Community finances: 1795-1940
Endowments, 1839-1936
Registration documents, name changes, BMD certificates, 1833-1934
Circumcision books, 1861-1883
Burial society, 1867-1935
Lists and plan of synagogue seats, 1800-1937
School records, 1844-1868
Local societies, 1831-1933
Privae papers, 1821-1933 (these are listed by name)

This is a partial list of items of some interest to researchers. The birth,
marriage and death registers of Trebitsch (about 1783 -1943) and other
communities >from Bohemia and Moravia were transferred to the
Czech central archives in Prague. However in the holdings listed above
there seems to be a lot of interesting stuff, such as Pinkasbooks, list of
synagogue seats, circumcision books and others.

Henry Wellisch
Toronto


Jewish Solders in the Austro-Hungarian Army #austria-czech

Frank Eisinger <feising@...>
 

In reply to K & L Bertelsen's inquiry, I suggest going to this site for
information about campaigns, medals, ranks, etc.:
http://www.austro-hungarian-army.co.uk/

Frank Eisinger
Saint James, NY


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Jewish Solders in the Austro-Hungarian Army #austria-czech

Frank Eisinger <feising@...>
 

In reply to K & L Bertelsen's inquiry, I suggest going to this site for
information about campaigns, medals, ranks, etc.:
http://www.austro-hungarian-army.co.uk/

Frank Eisinger
Saint James, NY


Re: Dr. Frank KNOPFELMACHER #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Robert Hanscomb asks about the family of Dr Frank
KNOPFELMACHER >from Vienna,Prague and Australia
(1923-1995) of Australia, a controversial figure who
died 10 years ago >from injuries sustained in a car
accident. Does anyone have any information
about his parents or grandparents?

I know nothing about Frank except what I found out
from an internet search and this provided quite a few
clues:
http://www.pwhce.org/textknop.html

from this we know:
1. Frank married and that he has a son Andrew, who
surely must know something about his family?

2. Frank was born in Feb 1923 in Vienna, hence the IKG
should be able to help.

3. His parents were probably born ca 1890-1900

4. They may have been deported >from Prague and a Yad
vashem search provides quite a few names and witnesses
notably Henry G Weissenstein of Baltimore. Please also
note the Doew [Austrian] victims associated with
Prague, mentioned in the last paragraph.

5. Three of Franks's family committed suicide in
Vienna in the wake of the Nazi terror. If these were
paternal KNOPFELMACHER, and not on the maternal side,
then we have quite a few candidates >from the cemetry
database: all are in the Zentralfriedhof - Tor 1 or
Tor IV.

Knopfelmacher Bernhard aged 61 died 20.03.1938 T1 50
46 28 - I know he was married to a Mimi

Knopfelmacher Joachim aged 79 died 21.11.1939 TIV 20A
20 14

Knopfelmacher Karoline died 22.06.1940 TIV 21 35 36
Knopfelmacher Moses Samuel aged 82 died 26.11.1942 T4
21 35 34

Knopfelmacher Maria aged 75* 21.09.1866-03.07.1941 TIV
21 38 47
Knopflmacher Israel/Ignaz 83* 04.04.1857-03.07.1941
TIV 21 38 47
[see footnote and also note the dates of death of this
couple].

Knopfelmacher Minetti aged 66 died 08.05.1939 TIV 16
10 8

Knopfelmacher Sofie aged 72 died 04.03.1940 TIV 20A
27 11

and possibly:
Knopflmacher Siegmund aged 76 died 12.05.1943 TIV
19K 6 5

The fact that Marie and Israel/Ignaz died on the same
day is highly suspicious to me. Note that Ignaz is
spelled KNOPFLMACHER in the database. I suspect that
they were a devoted couple who committed suicide
together. They could be the grandparents of Frank, or
perhaps a gt-aunt and uncle?

There are two Ignaz Knopfelmacher in Vienna in 1933 -
both are professional - one is a patent agent and one
a professor.
It should be easy to follow them up. Strangely,
neither have a listed asset file. This might suggest
that one left well before April 1938 and that the
other was poor. We know >from Doew that one Ignaz was
murdered and he was born on 25.11.1873.

There are 20 Knopfelmacher and Knopflmacher listed on
Doew as Austrian Holocaust victims and some are
associated with Prague namely: Amalie {22.12.1881},
Felix {31.8.1899} and Leonhard {06.02.1872}.

All we know at the moment about Felix, who >from his
dates could be the father of Frank, is >from >from Yad
Vashem:
He was born on 31/08/1899 [my birthday!] and he died
in Majdanek. He was on transport Au >from Prague to
Terezin on 12/05/1942 and transport Ay >from Terezin to
Lublin on 17/05/1942
prisoner Nr. 613 and 343 on the first and second
transports.

We remember him here today, together with all the
other KNOPFELMACHER and KNOPFLMACHER victims of the
holocaust.

Celia Male [U.K.]

Footnote: * Maria is listed as 70 and Ignaz as 63 in
the IKG database - these do not correspond with their
given dates of birth. I have corrected them above.


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: Dr. Frank KNOPFELMACHER #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Robert Hanscomb asks about the family of Dr Frank
KNOPFELMACHER >from Vienna,Prague and Australia
(1923-1995) of Australia, a controversial figure who
died 10 years ago >from injuries sustained in a car
accident. Does anyone have any information
about his parents or grandparents?

I know nothing about Frank except what I found out
from an internet search and this provided quite a few
clues:
http://www.pwhce.org/textknop.html

from this we know:
1. Frank married and that he has a son Andrew, who
surely must know something about his family?

2. Frank was born in Feb 1923 in Vienna, hence the IKG
should be able to help.

3. His parents were probably born ca 1890-1900

4. They may have been deported >from Prague and a Yad
vashem search provides quite a few names and witnesses
notably Henry G Weissenstein of Baltimore. Please also
note the Doew [Austrian] victims associated with
Prague, mentioned in the last paragraph.

5. Three of Franks's family committed suicide in
Vienna in the wake of the Nazi terror. If these were
paternal KNOPFELMACHER, and not on the maternal side,
then we have quite a few candidates >from the cemetry
database: all are in the Zentralfriedhof - Tor 1 or
Tor IV.

Knopfelmacher Bernhard aged 61 died 20.03.1938 T1 50
46 28 - I know he was married to a Mimi

Knopfelmacher Joachim aged 79 died 21.11.1939 TIV 20A
20 14

Knopfelmacher Karoline died 22.06.1940 TIV 21 35 36
Knopfelmacher Moses Samuel aged 82 died 26.11.1942 T4
21 35 34

Knopfelmacher Maria aged 75* 21.09.1866-03.07.1941 TIV
21 38 47
Knopflmacher Israel/Ignaz 83* 04.04.1857-03.07.1941
TIV 21 38 47
[see footnote and also note the dates of death of this
couple].

Knopfelmacher Minetti aged 66 died 08.05.1939 TIV 16
10 8

Knopfelmacher Sofie aged 72 died 04.03.1940 TIV 20A
27 11

and possibly:
Knopflmacher Siegmund aged 76 died 12.05.1943 TIV
19K 6 5

The fact that Marie and Israel/Ignaz died on the same
day is highly suspicious to me. Note that Ignaz is
spelled KNOPFLMACHER in the database. I suspect that
they were a devoted couple who committed suicide
together. They could be the grandparents of Frank, or
perhaps a gt-aunt and uncle?

There are two Ignaz Knopfelmacher in Vienna in 1933 -
both are professional - one is a patent agent and one
a professor.
It should be easy to follow them up. Strangely,
neither have a listed asset file. This might suggest
that one left well before April 1938 and that the
other was poor. We know >from Doew that one Ignaz was
murdered and he was born on 25.11.1873.

There are 20 Knopfelmacher and Knopflmacher listed on
Doew as Austrian Holocaust victims and some are
associated with Prague namely: Amalie {22.12.1881},
Felix {31.8.1899} and Leonhard {06.02.1872}.

All we know at the moment about Felix, who >from his
dates could be the father of Frank, is >from >from Yad
Vashem:
He was born on 31/08/1899 [my birthday!] and he died
in Majdanek. He was on transport Au >from Prague to
Terezin on 12/05/1942 and transport Ay >from Terezin to
Lublin on 17/05/1942
prisoner Nr. 613 and 343 on the first and second
transports.

We remember him here today, together with all the
other KNOPFELMACHER and KNOPFLMACHER victims of the
holocaust.

Celia Male [U.K.]

Footnote: * Maria is listed as 70 and Ignaz as 63 in
the IKG database - these do not correspond with their
given dates of birth. I have corrected them above.


Re: Czech given name: "Bohumir" #austria-czech

Hans Peter Grab <hpgrab@...>
 

Robert Hanscom wrote:
Can anyone give me some information about the Czech given name of
"Bohumir"?
What are some equivalents of this name?
Bohumir is the Czech equivalent of German Gottfried (literal: Godspeace).
This name was not often used. Often used was Bohumil, the Czech equivalent
of German Gottlieb (literal: Godslove).

Hanus Grab


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: Czech given name: "Bohumir" #austria-czech

Hans Peter Grab <hpgrab@...>
 

Robert Hanscom wrote:
Can anyone give me some information about the Czech given name of
"Bohumir"?
What are some equivalents of this name?
Bohumir is the Czech equivalent of German Gottfried (literal: Godspeace).
This name was not often used. Often used was Bohumil, the Czech equivalent
of German Gottlieb (literal: Godslove).

Hanus Grab


Re: Czech given name: "Bohumir" #austria-czech

Jan Hellmann <jan@...>
 

Robert Hanscom asked about the origin of name Bohumir. Bohumir is typical
Slavic/Czech name, which can be found in most of the Slavic languages in
different forms. It means the one who is dear to the god. With a 2nd name
being Jewish, it might indicate, that the person has been baptized or wanted
underline connection to the Czechs and not to the Jews

Jan O. Hellmann/Denmark


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech SV: Czech given name: "Bohumir" #austria-czech

Jan Hellmann <jan@...>
 

Robert Hanscom asked about the origin of name Bohumir. Bohumir is typical
Slavic/Czech name, which can be found in most of the Slavic languages in
different forms. It means the one who is dear to the god. With a 2nd name
being Jewish, it might indicate, that the person has been baptized or wanted
underline connection to the Czechs and not to the Jews

Jan O. Hellmann/Denmark


Surnames #galicia

Saulzee@...
 

Dear Jacob,

The meanings and origins of the names you listed are as follows:
Koenigsbuch-German for King's book, an artificial name artfully created.
Found in Krakow, Brezsko and Lwow. Beider, (2004).

Lamensdorf-Also an artificial name artfully createwd >from the base
Lemonedorf meaning lemon + village. Found in Zywiec, Wieliczka, Krakow, Bochnia,
Tarnow, Dabrowa, Drohobycz, Stanisalow. Beider, (2004).

Landesdorfer-Also an artificial name artfully created, again German meaning
land village >from the root Landesdorf. Usually, the er ending means someone
from somewhere, for example Bamberger is someone >from Bamberg etc. In this
instance unfortunately, it doesn't make much sense. Found in Biala, Wieliczka,
Krakow. Beider, (2004).

None of the three names appear in any other of my reference works with the
exception of Beider's Jewish Surnames of Galicia. Jews resisted adopting
hereditary surnames for a lot of reasons including having no need for them. As a
result, in 1787, Emperor Joseph II of Austria-Hungary passed an edict
requiring Jews who did not have hereditary surnames to adopt them, placing some
severe restrictions on where they could come >from and giving clerks in each
village a limited time frame to get the work done. As a result, according to
Beider, as many as 30-35% of Jewish surnames were assigned and were either made up
by the clerk or assigned off a limited list the clerks had.

For further information, you can look at the website I maintain for the
Kolomea Interest Group.

Saul Zeichner

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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Surnames #galicia

Saulzee@...
 

Dear Jacob,

The meanings and origins of the names you listed are as follows:
Koenigsbuch-German for King's book, an artificial name artfully created.
Found in Krakow, Brezsko and Lwow. Beider, (2004).

Lamensdorf-Also an artificial name artfully createwd >from the base
Lemonedorf meaning lemon + village. Found in Zywiec, Wieliczka, Krakow, Bochnia,
Tarnow, Dabrowa, Drohobycz, Stanisalow. Beider, (2004).

Landesdorfer-Also an artificial name artfully created, again German meaning
land village >from the root Landesdorf. Usually, the er ending means someone
from somewhere, for example Bamberger is someone >from Bamberg etc. In this
instance unfortunately, it doesn't make much sense. Found in Biala, Wieliczka,
Krakow. Beider, (2004).

None of the three names appear in any other of my reference works with the
exception of Beider's Jewish Surnames of Galicia. Jews resisted adopting
hereditary surnames for a lot of reasons including having no need for them. As a
result, in 1787, Emperor Joseph II of Austria-Hungary passed an edict
requiring Jews who did not have hereditary surnames to adopt them, placing some
severe restrictions on where they could come >from and giving clerks in each
village a limited time frame to get the work done. As a result, according to
Beider, as many as 30-35% of Jewish surnames were assigned and were either made up
by the clerk or assigned off a limited list the clerks had.

For further information, you can look at the website I maintain for the
Kolomea Interest Group.

Saul Zeichner

Moderator Note: Please add your city, state or country to your signature in future posts.