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Re: my gggrandfather -an enigma? Adenda #austria-czech

t_sinai1@...
 

I stand corrected by Randol Schoenberg. I stated in my posting yesterday
" But it was impossible , at the beggining of the 19th century, that a
Jewish father, who was still alive, should call his son by his own name"..
As Randol is showing in his posting there are cases when father and son had
the same first name. It was possible but very unusual among Ashkenazi Jews.
Bear in maind that Juda REDLICH was married at the beggining of the 19th
and his son was born a few years later, while Joseph FEITLER married cca
1860.
Juda was brougt up by a Rabbi,and he remained religious, therefore he
would not call his son by his own name.

My maternal grandfather was Tsvi Herman FUCHS and Juda REDLICH was the
grandfather of my gandmother, Ernestine ( Esther ) FUCHS, nee REDLICH, from
Bisenz. She was my grandfather's second wife, an one-time pupil of his. She
told her oldest son, Dr. David Rafael FUCHS. headmaster of the Jewish highschool
in Budapest a linguist and member of the Hungarian Academy of Science, all she
knew about the family history.

Best wishes,
Tsvi Sinai, Israel


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: my gggrandfather -an enigma? Adenda #austria-czech

t_sinai1@...
 

I stand corrected by Randol Schoenberg. I stated in my posting yesterday
" But it was impossible , at the beggining of the 19th century, that a
Jewish father, who was still alive, should call his son by his own name"..
As Randol is showing in his posting there are cases when father and son had
the same first name. It was possible but very unusual among Ashkenazi Jews.
Bear in maind that Juda REDLICH was married at the beggining of the 19th
and his son was born a few years later, while Joseph FEITLER married cca
1860.
Juda was brougt up by a Rabbi,and he remained religious, therefore he
would not call his son by his own name.

My maternal grandfather was Tsvi Herman FUCHS and Juda REDLICH was the
grandfather of my gandmother, Ernestine ( Esther ) FUCHS, nee REDLICH, from
Bisenz. She was my grandfather's second wife, an one-time pupil of his. She
told her oldest son, Dr. David Rafael FUCHS. headmaster of the Jewish highschool
in Budapest a linguist and member of the Hungarian Academy of Science, all she
knew about the family history.

Best wishes,
Tsvi Sinai, Israel


Looking for information on NISSLER/NISLE KLINGER, nee LEVI (LEVY) #france

Don and Debby Painter <painter@...>
 

I am looking for more information on Nissler or Nisle KLINGER nee LEVI
or LEVY born 22.8 rep. 28.8 1881 (sources differ) in Koeingshofen near
Strasbourg. She was to have married Mosiek Srul "Max" KLINGER around
1920 probably in Dortmund, Germany.

She resided at Leopoldstr. 23 probably by 1929 and widowed by 1933.
She, her stepdaughter (Johanna) and stepson (Isidor) are deported from
Dortmund 1942. (A bit of confusion here, on the list she is listed as
wife not mother.) Her son, Hermann not until February 27, 1943.

This is all I have at the moment. If any one is able to obtain a birth
certificate for her for me or can offer any help in any way, it would be
greatly appreciated.

Debby Gincig Painter
Constantine Michigan USA

Searching: KLINGER (Lodz, Strasbourg, Dortmund), LUSTIG (Nowy Sacz),
GINCIG or GINCIG (Germany) and now LEVY or LEVI (Koeingshofen or
Strasbourg)


French SIG #France Looking for information on NISSLER/NISLE KLINGER, nee LEVI (LEVY) #france

Don and Debby Painter <painter@...>
 

I am looking for more information on Nissler or Nisle KLINGER nee LEVI
or LEVY born 22.8 rep. 28.8 1881 (sources differ) in Koeingshofen near
Strasbourg. She was to have married Mosiek Srul "Max" KLINGER around
1920 probably in Dortmund, Germany.

She resided at Leopoldstr. 23 probably by 1929 and widowed by 1933.
She, her stepdaughter (Johanna) and stepson (Isidor) are deported from
Dortmund 1942. (A bit of confusion here, on the list she is listed as
wife not mother.) Her son, Hermann not until February 27, 1943.

This is all I have at the moment. If any one is able to obtain a birth
certificate for her for me or can offer any help in any way, it would be
greatly appreciated.

Debby Gincig Painter
Constantine Michigan USA

Searching: KLINGER (Lodz, Strasbourg, Dortmund), LUSTIG (Nowy Sacz),
GINCIG or GINCIG (Germany) and now LEVY or LEVI (Koeingshofen or
Strasbourg)


Seeking: IMHOFF/Germany #general

Martin Atkinson <woopimoose@...>
 

Hello,

Does anyone have any information on the name Imhoff, maybe
from, or married at, Wittgenstein.
Another name of interest is Buschel, later changed to Bushell
from the same areal.
Thanks.

MODERATOR NOTE: Don't forget to register all names being researched
with the Jewishgen Family Finder:
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/


searching VICTOR #general

mavlin@...
 

Searching for family members of Solomon VICTOR born 1837 Wroclaw
(formerly Breslau.)
Murray Victor


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking: IMHOFF/Germany #general

Martin Atkinson <woopimoose@...>
 

Hello,

Does anyone have any information on the name Imhoff, maybe
from, or married at, Wittgenstein.
Another name of interest is Buschel, later changed to Bushell
from the same areal.
Thanks.

MODERATOR NOTE: Don't forget to register all names being researched
with the Jewishgen Family Finder:
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen searching VICTOR #general

mavlin@...
 

Searching for family members of Solomon VICTOR born 1837 Wroclaw
(formerly Breslau.)
Murray Victor


Seeking GOLDSTEIN #general

Pinchas <sicesp@...>
 

I am still seeking Leonard Goldstein, son of Gustav Goldstein, and/or
his sister Elsa and mother Helen. I've have both searched FTJP and
submitted,but so far my research has been unsuccessful. I may eventually
try writing to all Leonard Goldsteins, but there are many. Hope someone
may be able to help.

Peter Sices, South Bend, IN
sicesp@...
(EDELMAN(N), FRIEDMAN, GOLDSTEIN, GOLDFINGER--Hungary; TIZES, SICES,
MARCUS--Bucharest; BRAUN, SCHO(E)N--HUNGARY)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking GOLDSTEIN #general

Pinchas <sicesp@...>
 

I am still seeking Leonard Goldstein, son of Gustav Goldstein, and/or
his sister Elsa and mother Helen. I've have both searched FTJP and
submitted,but so far my research has been unsuccessful. I may eventually
try writing to all Leonard Goldsteins, but there are many. Hope someone
may be able to help.

Peter Sices, South Bend, IN
sicesp@...
(EDELMAN(N), FRIEDMAN, GOLDSTEIN, GOLDFINGER--Hungary; TIZES, SICES,
MARCUS--Bucharest; BRAUN, SCHO(E)N--HUNGARY)


Re: R. Chaim, brother of the MaHaRaL #rabbinic

philapple@...
 

On 2005.01.03, Pascal Faustini <pascal.faustini@...> wrote:

Who knows anything about R. Chaim, brother of the MaHaRaL? (His
death, his wife, his children ... I only know that he has been ABD
of Friedberg). And who was the mother of the MaHaRaL and his
brothers?
On his web site, Daniel Loeb includes a page showing the genealogy
of the Maharal: http://www.loebtree.com/maharal.html

Phillip Applebaum


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: R. Chaim, brother of the MaHaRaL #rabbinic

philapple@...
 

On 2005.01.03, Pascal Faustini <pascal.faustini@...> wrote:

Who knows anything about R. Chaim, brother of the MaHaRaL? (His
death, his wife, his children ... I only know that he has been ABD
of Friedberg). And who was the mother of the MaHaRaL and his
brothers?
On his web site, Daniel Loeb includes a page showing the genealogy
of the Maharal: http://www.loebtree.com/maharal.html

Phillip Applebaum


Moritz SPRONZ remembered - Breuers of the Judenrat, Vienna, contd #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

On 27th December I wrote: <As well as Moritz, his card survives... Not
surprisingly Moritz was never reunited with his postcard. His family .... may
have no idea of its existence, especially as it is indexed under SPRONR! So
here's a 2005 challenge to our SIG. If you can find Moritz SPRONZ's family you
could alert them to his historic card. This ... research ... is miraculously
possible as a result of the internet.>

Well here is the first miracle of 2005; we have found Moritz SPRONZ's grandson.
His name is Steven SPRONZ and he lives in LA. He has given me permission to
submit this posting. Steven had no idea of the existence of this card written
by his beloved "Papa" to the BREUERs of the Judenrat in Vienna [who to Steven's
knowledge, Papa never mentioned after the war] whilst he was incarcerated in
Theresienstadt.

Given the fact that the postcard contained a preprinted statement of thanks,
with only the name of the sender of the package and the signature of the inmate
to be filled in, Steven concludes that the Theresienstadt inmates might have
been *encouraged* by the camp authorities to write such postcards, thus
perpetuating the illusion of the purported paradise ghetto. Moreover, writing
the postcard does not prove that the signer ever received any package.

The testimonial for "SPRONZ" at Yad Vashem was posted by the niece of Moritz
SPRONZ; she was born and raised in Slovakia (Poesen). If you look at the SSDI
index you will see the Moritz SPRONZ [born Verbo, 24 Nov 1887] died in Seaford,
Nassau County, NY in June 1976 -so after his terrible ordeal, he happily had a
long life ahead of him.

And another interesting point is revealed if you search the internet. Steven
himself wrote: It appears that instead of coming out of the caves in Slovakia,
the Spronz family - originally Speranza - hails >from Italy, probably the southern
area near Naples ...

http://www.bmv.org.il/Shiurim/sanhedrin/san090.html

I hope that there are many more exciting discoveries to come in 2005.

Celia Male [UK]

PS: If anyone wishes to know more about Moritz SPRONZ's ordeal in Theresienstadt,
please write to me privately.


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Moritz SPRONZ remembered - Breuers of the Judenrat, Vienna, contd #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

On 27th December I wrote: <As well as Moritz, his card survives... Not
surprisingly Moritz was never reunited with his postcard. His family .... may
have no idea of its existence, especially as it is indexed under SPRONR! So
here's a 2005 challenge to our SIG. If you can find Moritz SPRONZ's family you
could alert them to his historic card. This ... research ... is miraculously
possible as a result of the internet.>

Well here is the first miracle of 2005; we have found Moritz SPRONZ's grandson.
His name is Steven SPRONZ and he lives in LA. He has given me permission to
submit this posting. Steven had no idea of the existence of this card written
by his beloved "Papa" to the BREUERs of the Judenrat in Vienna [who to Steven's
knowledge, Papa never mentioned after the war] whilst he was incarcerated in
Theresienstadt.

Given the fact that the postcard contained a preprinted statement of thanks,
with only the name of the sender of the package and the signature of the inmate
to be filled in, Steven concludes that the Theresienstadt inmates might have
been *encouraged* by the camp authorities to write such postcards, thus
perpetuating the illusion of the purported paradise ghetto. Moreover, writing
the postcard does not prove that the signer ever received any package.

The testimonial for "SPRONZ" at Yad Vashem was posted by the niece of Moritz
SPRONZ; she was born and raised in Slovakia (Poesen). If you look at the SSDI
index you will see the Moritz SPRONZ [born Verbo, 24 Nov 1887] died in Seaford,
Nassau County, NY in June 1976 -so after his terrible ordeal, he happily had a
long life ahead of him.

And another interesting point is revealed if you search the internet. Steven
himself wrote: It appears that instead of coming out of the caves in Slovakia,
the Spronz family - originally Speranza - hails >from Italy, probably the southern
area near Naples ...

http://www.bmv.org.il/Shiurim/sanhedrin/san090.html

I hope that there are many more exciting discoveries to come in 2005.

Celia Male [UK]

PS: If anyone wishes to know more about Moritz SPRONZ's ordeal in Theresienstadt,
please write to me privately.


Re: Austrian Picture Archive #austria-czech

Ed Zwieback <ezwieback@...>
 

I too was very pleased to followup on Jan's tip with good results.. I found
the "Search" page at http://www.bildarchivaustria.at/default.aspx and did a
search on ZWIEBACK. The search window is at the upper left corner. The
results, 62 images (of 1920s womens fashions >from the ZWIEBACK Fashion
Salon), were displayed in 7 groups. I was able to copy images and save them
to my hard drive.

Ed Zwieback
with the ZWIEBACK Family Name at http://ezwieback.com/Zwieback/

-----Original Message-----

From: Jan O. Hellmann [mailto:jan@... <mailto:jan@...> ]


I wish to draw your attention to the below link to Austria picture archive

- in german only. I found there and got delivered picture of my ggg-father

Josef HELLMANN as colonel in 1887.


Hugo Gold's Book on Bohemia #austria-czech

Ruth Coman <ruth.coman@...>
 

I should be very interested to know if the chapters on Kolin, Kolodeje nad
Luznici (Kalladay) or Zatec(Saaz) >from Hugo Gold's book on Bohemia have been
or are being translated?

The AustriaCzech SIG Webmaster to whom I first addressed this question could
only confirm that no one has submitted translations for these towns to them
- but suggested that I ask SIG mailing list members too.

I would also be interested to know the process for getting chapters
translated and how the project is being run. I should be happy to offer my
help but am not clear where to direct this offer.

Ruth Coman
England
Researching
SALUS, Bohemia; SCHUESSLER,Bohemia,Wien; LOEWY, Kolodeje nad Luznici,Kolin;
FISCHER,Kolin; FRIED, Kolin, Praha; MELZER, Zatec; MOC,MOTZ, Bohemia


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: Austrian Picture Archive #austria-czech

Ed Zwieback <ezwieback@...>
 

I too was very pleased to followup on Jan's tip with good results.. I found
the "Search" page at http://www.bildarchivaustria.at/default.aspx and did a
search on ZWIEBACK. The search window is at the upper left corner. The
results, 62 images (of 1920s womens fashions >from the ZWIEBACK Fashion
Salon), were displayed in 7 groups. I was able to copy images and save them
to my hard drive.

Ed Zwieback
with the ZWIEBACK Family Name at http://ezwieback.com/Zwieback/

-----Original Message-----

From: Jan O. Hellmann [mailto:jan@... <mailto:jan@...> ]


I wish to draw your attention to the below link to Austria picture archive

- in german only. I found there and got delivered picture of my ggg-father

Josef HELLMANN as colonel in 1887.


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Hugo Gold's Book on Bohemia #austria-czech

Ruth Coman <ruth.coman@...>
 

I should be very interested to know if the chapters on Kolin, Kolodeje nad
Luznici (Kalladay) or Zatec(Saaz) >from Hugo Gold's book on Bohemia have been
or are being translated?

The AustriaCzech SIG Webmaster to whom I first addressed this question could
only confirm that no one has submitted translations for these towns to them
- but suggested that I ask SIG mailing list members too.

I would also be interested to know the process for getting chapters
translated and how the project is being run. I should be happy to offer my
help but am not clear where to direct this offer.

Ruth Coman
England
Researching
SALUS, Bohemia; SCHUESSLER,Bohemia,Wien; LOEWY, Kolodeje nad Luznici,Kolin;
FISCHER,Kolin; FRIED, Kolin, Praha; MELZER, Zatec; MOC,MOTZ, Bohemia


Liberation of Auschwitz Birkenau - Commemoration Concert, London. #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

It is not every day that a member of our Austria-Czech SIG gives a piano recital
at the prestigious Wigmore Hall, London. On Sunday 16th January at 5pm,
Jacqueline Cole will present: Homage to Szymon Laks 1910-1983. Other composers
featured will be Haas, Chopin, Messiaen and Schul.

The concert is in commemoration of the 60th anniversary of liberation of
Auschwitz Birkenau.

You can read more about the concert on:
http://www.concert-diary.com/home/concert_details.asp?id=42257&ref=13&back=true

You can also read a profile of Jacqueline [search for *Cole* under keyboard and/or
pianists] on:
http://www.musiciansgallery.com/start/keyboards/pianists/cole(jacqueline).html

Jacqueline has been a leading light in the promotion of the music of Viktor
Ullmann and other Terezin composers.

http://www.musiciansgallery.com/start/societies/viktor_ullmann_foundation.html

Hopefully, some of our London-based SIG members will be able to attend this
historic concert.

Celia Male [UK]

NB Long URLs - copy and paste them into your browser.


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Liberation of Auschwitz Birkenau - Commemoration Concert, London. #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

It is not every day that a member of our Austria-Czech SIG gives a piano recital
at the prestigious Wigmore Hall, London. On Sunday 16th January at 5pm,
Jacqueline Cole will present: Homage to Szymon Laks 1910-1983. Other composers
featured will be Haas, Chopin, Messiaen and Schul.

The concert is in commemoration of the 60th anniversary of liberation of
Auschwitz Birkenau.

You can read more about the concert on:
http://www.concert-diary.com/home/concert_details.asp?id=42257&ref=13&back=true

You can also read a profile of Jacqueline [search for *Cole* under keyboard and/or
pianists] on:
http://www.musiciansgallery.com/start/keyboards/pianists/cole(jacqueline).html

Jacqueline has been a leading light in the promotion of the music of Viktor
Ullmann and other Terezin composers.

http://www.musiciansgallery.com/start/societies/viktor_ullmann_foundation.html

Hopefully, some of our London-based SIG members will be able to attend this
historic concert.

Celia Male [UK]

NB Long URLs - copy and paste them into your browser.