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Re: Strategy for Approaching Cousins #general

gilah@...
 

David Schreiber wrote: "I would like some advice on approaching possible
cousins. I originally wrote a detailed, two-page description...."

We've had this discussion recently in this group (me thinks). But I did
not weigh in last time. My advice: short and to the point is good. I
would also suggest calling rather than writing, if possible. I've had
great success cold calling. I actually love getting answering machines
(altho', of course, one can't choose that option). With an answering
machine I can quickly outline my reason for calling: "My name is Emily
Garber. I am doing family history research and I believe that your
grandfather, Louis, and my great grandmother, Ida, were siblings."
Sometimes I leave a number. Sometimes I say I will call back. When I've
called back, I find that they've been waiting for my call and they're
always interested in talking. I've had several call me.

I always ask if they have email and if I may add them to my family
mailing list. Regardless, I always follow up with a family tree showing
our relationship and several documents directly related to their close
relations. My most recent cold call resulted in filling out a branch of
my tree with by adding more than 20 people.
--
Emily Garber
Phoenix, AZ

Lubin/Labun/Yurovshchina & Gritsev, Volhynia (Ukraine) -- GARBER,
MAZEWITSKY, MALZMANN, KESTLEMAN, ZABARSKY
Radauti (Romania), Zalishchyky, Utechko & Torskie, Galicia (Ukraine) --
LIEBROSS, WENKERT/WEINGART, ETT, BARATH
Kasan/Kozyany, Disna District, Vilna Province & Babroysk, Minsk Gub
(Belarus) -- WILENSKY/WILENSKI, EPSTEIN

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Strategy for Approaching Cousins #general

gilah@...
 

David Schreiber wrote: "I would like some advice on approaching possible
cousins. I originally wrote a detailed, two-page description...."

We've had this discussion recently in this group (me thinks). But I did
not weigh in last time. My advice: short and to the point is good. I
would also suggest calling rather than writing, if possible. I've had
great success cold calling. I actually love getting answering machines
(altho', of course, one can't choose that option). With an answering
machine I can quickly outline my reason for calling: "My name is Emily
Garber. I am doing family history research and I believe that your
grandfather, Louis, and my great grandmother, Ida, were siblings."
Sometimes I leave a number. Sometimes I say I will call back. When I've
called back, I find that they've been waiting for my call and they're
always interested in talking. I've had several call me.

I always ask if they have email and if I may add them to my family
mailing list. Regardless, I always follow up with a family tree showing
our relationship and several documents directly related to their close
relations. My most recent cold call resulted in filling out a branch of
my tree with by adding more than 20 people.
--
Emily Garber
Phoenix, AZ

Lubin/Labun/Yurovshchina & Gritsev, Volhynia (Ukraine) -- GARBER,
MAZEWITSKY, MALZMANN, KESTLEMAN, ZABARSKY
Radauti (Romania), Zalishchyky, Utechko & Torskie, Galicia (Ukraine) --
LIEBROSS, WENKERT/WEINGART, ETT, BARATH
Kasan/Kozyany, Disna District, Vilna Province & Babroysk, Minsk Gub
(Belarus) -- WILENSKY/WILENSKI, EPSTEIN

Re: Strategy for approaching possible cousins #general

abe simon
 

On March 11 David Schreiber wrote ...."I would like some advice on
approaching possible cousins......" . I wrote to him privately but I think
this might help others, also.
To protect other people I have ....'d out names.
Dear David, here is what worked for me. I found a few facts about L... and
wrote a polite informative email (see below) to which she promptly
responded. Then after that contact and one more, she gave me all the info
and contacts on her husband's family who mostly had moved to Florida years
ago. After I contacted them, I just got back >from a trip where I met 3
wonderful "new" cousins, all very nice, and happy that I found them, and
want to get together again soon. Luckily, now I have added a whole limb with
branches to my tree.
The guide rules I followed which I had read before stated write politely,
explain what you're trying to do, give them something (in this case a copy
of a telegram), and if you have a fact try to empathize or find common
ground with them. Maybe I wrote a bit too much but that's a guess you make.

Good Luck,
Abe Simon
Las Vegas, NV
abe_simon@...
===
First contact letter

Hi L..., shalom and Happy New Year.
I'm writing to see if your late husband, C..., and I are related as cousins.
I'm sorry you lost him. I too lost my wife 8 years ago.
It's a long story but I found you through the recent Woodstock anniversary
publicity on PBS and eventually to S... County.
I have been the family historian/genealogist for about 10 years, >from
joining the Denver JGS and after moving to Las Vegas, the JGSSN. I see among
your many accomplishments you were active at the S... County Historical
Society so I thought you would be interested and a good contact.
My grandfather S... Simon married my grandmother E... B... in Belarus and
they had 4 children-T..., A... my dad, I..., and I.... My gf emigrated to
the US in 19.. and the rest of the family arrived in 19.., as did
coincidentally my mom's family (F...).
The extended family all lived in Buffalo, NY where I was raised.
I have 3 possible connections. One is a telegram congratulating my dad on
his 1928 marriage >from "Uncle J... B...", Brooklyn, NY. I have attached a
copy for you.
The second is on my grandfather's arrival ship manifest in 19.. it states he
is going to see his brother-in-law J... B... at R... St. Brooklyn.
The third is a story my cousin F... Simon >from Toledo told me about 5 years
ago. She says when she was a youngster in the 1940's they went to see some
B... family who had a gas station in the E..., NY area. This info seemed to
tie in with what I read recently about you. If C...'s grandfather was J...
B... then he and my grandmother E... were brother and sister. They would
have come >from Minsk area. It's hard to read but I think based on Elka's
ship manifest she had a sister R... in Minsk and their father's name (>from
E...'s grave in Buffalo) is A... my great grandfather.
I hope you don't mind my contacting you and I would like to hear >from you
soon.
Abe Simon

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Strategy for approaching possible cousins #general

abe simon
 

On March 11 David Schreiber wrote ...."I would like some advice on
approaching possible cousins......" . I wrote to him privately but I think
this might help others, also.
To protect other people I have ....'d out names.
Dear David, here is what worked for me. I found a few facts about L... and
wrote a polite informative email (see below) to which she promptly
responded. Then after that contact and one more, she gave me all the info
and contacts on her husband's family who mostly had moved to Florida years
ago. After I contacted them, I just got back >from a trip where I met 3
wonderful "new" cousins, all very nice, and happy that I found them, and
want to get together again soon. Luckily, now I have added a whole limb with
branches to my tree.
The guide rules I followed which I had read before stated write politely,
explain what you're trying to do, give them something (in this case a copy
of a telegram), and if you have a fact try to empathize or find common
ground with them. Maybe I wrote a bit too much but that's a guess you make.

Good Luck,
Abe Simon
Las Vegas, NV
abe_simon@...
===
First contact letter

Hi L..., shalom and Happy New Year.
I'm writing to see if your late husband, C..., and I are related as cousins.
I'm sorry you lost him. I too lost my wife 8 years ago.
It's a long story but I found you through the recent Woodstock anniversary
publicity on PBS and eventually to S... County.
I have been the family historian/genealogist for about 10 years, >from
joining the Denver JGS and after moving to Las Vegas, the JGSSN. I see among
your many accomplishments you were active at the S... County Historical
Society so I thought you would be interested and a good contact.
My grandfather S... Simon married my grandmother E... B... in Belarus and
they had 4 children-T..., A... my dad, I..., and I.... My gf emigrated to
the US in 19.. and the rest of the family arrived in 19.., as did
coincidentally my mom's family (F...).
The extended family all lived in Buffalo, NY where I was raised.
I have 3 possible connections. One is a telegram congratulating my dad on
his 1928 marriage >from "Uncle J... B...", Brooklyn, NY. I have attached a
copy for you.
The second is on my grandfather's arrival ship manifest in 19.. it states he
is going to see his brother-in-law J... B... at R... St. Brooklyn.
The third is a story my cousin F... Simon >from Toledo told me about 5 years
ago. She says when she was a youngster in the 1940's they went to see some
B... family who had a gas station in the E..., NY area. This info seemed to
tie in with what I read recently about you. If C...'s grandfather was J...
B... then he and my grandmother E... were brother and sister. They would
have come >from Minsk area. It's hard to read but I think based on Elka's
ship manifest she had a sister R... in Minsk and their father's name (>from
E...'s grave in Buffalo) is A... my great grandfather.
I hope you don't mind my contacting you and I would like to hear >from you
soon.
Abe Simon

JGS Sacramento March 21 meeting "Connections Small and Grand" #general

RobertW252@...
 

Jewish Genealogical Society of Sacramento

Topic: Connections Small and Grand

Speaker: Liz Igra

When: Sunday, March 21, 2010, 10 a.m.

Where: Albert Einstein Residence Center, 1935 Wright St., Sacramento, CA

Liz Igra is a Holocaust survivor born in Krakow, Poland. After she and
her mother escaped >from the Czorkow ghetto in October 1942, they hid on
false papers, crossed the Carpathian Mountains on foot, spent some time in a
Budapest jail and were released, only to go into hiding when Germany took
complete control of Hungary. Liz and her mother were liberated in 1945 and
returned to Poland to find only one other member of their family.

After time in Poland and France, she and her mother immigrated to
Australia and then came to the U.S. in 1968. Liz has been an elementary and high
school teacher, administrator, workshop presenter, and helped start Shalom
School in Sacramento. In the last twenty years she has been a guest speaker
in many classrooms and teacher conferences. Many teachers confirmed her
personal observations, that even the best seminars do not equip teachers to
meet the challenges of teaching about the Holocaust. So Liz founded the
Central Valley Holocaust Educators' Network.

Liz hopes her story will lead to a better understanding of the Holocaust
and the important lessons to be learned.

The March 21 meeting will be held at 10 a.m. at the Albert Einstein
Residence Center, 1935 Wright St., Sacramento. For more information about the
Jewish Genealogical Society of Sacramento, visit www.jgss.org, e-mail the JGSS
at jgs_sacramento@... or leave a message at 916-486-0906 ext. 361.

The program is set for 10 a.m., Sunday, February 21, at the Albert
Einstein Residence Center, 1935 Wright Street, Sacramento.

All are welcome to attend and to use the JGSS library collection.

Bob Wascou

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS Sacramento March 21 meeting "Connections Small and Grand" #general

RobertW252@...
 

Jewish Genealogical Society of Sacramento

Topic: Connections Small and Grand

Speaker: Liz Igra

When: Sunday, March 21, 2010, 10 a.m.

Where: Albert Einstein Residence Center, 1935 Wright St., Sacramento, CA

Liz Igra is a Holocaust survivor born in Krakow, Poland. After she and
her mother escaped >from the Czorkow ghetto in October 1942, they hid on
false papers, crossed the Carpathian Mountains on foot, spent some time in a
Budapest jail and were released, only to go into hiding when Germany took
complete control of Hungary. Liz and her mother were liberated in 1945 and
returned to Poland to find only one other member of their family.

After time in Poland and France, she and her mother immigrated to
Australia and then came to the U.S. in 1968. Liz has been an elementary and high
school teacher, administrator, workshop presenter, and helped start Shalom
School in Sacramento. In the last twenty years she has been a guest speaker
in many classrooms and teacher conferences. Many teachers confirmed her
personal observations, that even the best seminars do not equip teachers to
meet the challenges of teaching about the Holocaust. So Liz founded the
Central Valley Holocaust Educators' Network.

Liz hopes her story will lead to a better understanding of the Holocaust
and the important lessons to be learned.

The March 21 meeting will be held at 10 a.m. at the Albert Einstein
Residence Center, 1935 Wright St., Sacramento. For more information about the
Jewish Genealogical Society of Sacramento, visit www.jgss.org, e-mail the JGSS
at jgs_sacramento@... or leave a message at 916-486-0906 ext. 361.

The program is set for 10 a.m., Sunday, February 21, at the Albert
Einstein Residence Center, 1935 Wright Street, Sacramento.

All are welcome to attend and to use the JGSS library collection.

Bob Wascou

Mount Lebanon cemetery, New York #general

Robert Fraser <rwfgjf@...>
 

Dear Friends -

If a kind genner is planning a visit to Mount Lebanon cemetery,
Glendale, New York, I'd appreciate a photo of a grave/headstone.

http://www.mountlebanoncemetery.com/search.asp

Please email me off-list for details.

Thanks

Robert W Fraser
Western Australia

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Mount Lebanon cemetery, New York #general

Robert Fraser <rwfgjf@...>
 

Dear Friends -

If a kind genner is planning a visit to Mount Lebanon cemetery,
Glendale, New York, I'd appreciate a photo of a grave/headstone.

http://www.mountlebanoncemetery.com/search.asp

Please email me off-list for details.

Thanks

Robert W Fraser
Western Australia

Lists from the Struma... #general

Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@...>
 

With the kind permission of the authors of the book "Death on the Black
Sea", and Prof Samuel Aroni, who compiled the various lists of those
who perished on the Struma, the full listing, with all of the various
spellings, etc. has been a link on the ROM-SIG Home page for over a
year: http://www.jewishgen.org/romsig/

Click on the link to Struma in the left hand column, and it will take
directly to the introduction by Prof Aroni, and the database.

Rosanne Leeson
Co-Coordinator
ROM-SIG

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Lists from the Struma... #general

Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@...>
 

With the kind permission of the authors of the book "Death on the Black
Sea", and Prof Samuel Aroni, who compiled the various lists of those
who perished on the Struma, the full listing, with all of the various
spellings, etc. has been a link on the ROM-SIG Home page for over a
year: http://www.jewishgen.org/romsig/

Click on the link to Struma in the left hand column, and it will take
directly to the introduction by Prof Aroni, and the database.

Rosanne Leeson
Co-Coordinator
ROM-SIG

Hirlau #romania

rzavos@...
 

Dear Reba,

Here is the Hirlau shtetlink site:

http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/hirlau/hirlau.htm with much
information on Hirlau and a link to the Hirlau chapter in Pinkas
Hakellot Romania. I don't believe there is any other Yiskor book
for Hirlau.

Robert Zavos
Pittsburgh PA, USA
researching: Minter/Menzer/Mintzer, Poyaner, Terner - >from Bucecea,
Botosani, Herta
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Does anyone know if there is a Yizkor book or any other material written
(in English) about the Jewish community in the town of Harlau/Hirlau?

Thank you.
Reba Wynn Laks
Lake Hill, NY
rlaks2@...

Romania SIG #Romania Hirlau #romania

rzavos@...
 

Dear Reba,

Here is the Hirlau shtetlink site:

http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/hirlau/hirlau.htm with much
information on Hirlau and a link to the Hirlau chapter in Pinkas
Hakellot Romania. I don't believe there is any other Yiskor book
for Hirlau.

Robert Zavos
Pittsburgh PA, USA
researching: Minter/Menzer/Mintzer, Poyaner, Terner - >from Bucecea,
Botosani, Herta
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Does anyone know if there is a Yizkor book or any other material written
(in English) about the Jewish community in the town of Harlau/Hirlau?

Thank you.
Reba Wynn Laks
Lake Hill, NY
rlaks2@...

Sochaczew records #warsaw #poland

easpira@...
 

As a newcomer to this Research Group I would appreciate advice on how to =
go about getting vital and other records of residents of Sochaczew. It =
is my understanding that the Jewish community was annihilated and most =
of its records destroyed. My grandmother Adele (Ajdel) BEKER survived, =
emigrating >from Germany in 1937, but most of her family was lost. I =
have not been able to trace any of her ancestral family.
Any help would be appreciated.

Elaine Spira: Researching BEKER >from Sochaczew; WEKSLER and =
CHRYZANOWSKA(I) >from Klobuck and Widawa, SPIERER >from Jagielnica.=

Warszawa Research Group #Warsaw #Poland Sochaczew records #warsaw #poland

easpira@...
 

As a newcomer to this Research Group I would appreciate advice on how to =
go about getting vital and other records of residents of Sochaczew. It =
is my understanding that the Jewish community was annihilated and most =
of its records destroyed. My grandmother Adele (Ajdel) BEKER survived, =
emigrating >from Germany in 1937, but most of her family was lost. I =
have not been able to trace any of her ancestral family.
Any help would be appreciated.

Elaine Spira: Researching BEKER >from Sochaczew; WEKSLER and =
CHRYZANOWSKA(I) >from Klobuck and Widawa, SPIERER >from Jagielnica.=

Yiddish Theatre #yiddish

miriaminno@...
 

I am seeking information about a Kiev Yiddish Theatre that performed in Czernowitz
in 1945. My parents met in the Yiddish Theatre in Czernowitz and married on May 8
1945. Is there a way to find out what theatre companies performed in Czernowitz
at that time? My father said it was the Kiev ... Yiddish Theatre. He was a stage
carpenter and my mother a performer/costumer.

Thank you.

Miriam Innocenti

Moderator's note: Please include sender's general location (city, state, country).

Yiddish Theatre and Vadeville #YiddishTheatre Yiddish Theatre #yiddish

miriaminno@...
 

I am seeking information about a Kiev Yiddish Theatre that performed in Czernowitz
in 1945. My parents met in the Yiddish Theatre in Czernowitz and married on May 8
1945. Is there a way to find out what theatre companies performed in Czernowitz
at that time? My father said it was the Kiev ... Yiddish Theatre. He was a stage
carpenter and my mother a performer/costumer.

Thank you.

Miriam Innocenti

Moderator's note: Please include sender's general location (city, state, country).

FW: Passenger Arrivals to the UK 1810-1869 #unitedkingdom

a1steve@...
 

Dear All

In September last year, I posted to see if anyone had ever seen
various arrival files held at the UK Archives..one of the mAjor sites now
has a free search available for Alien Arrivals to England from
1810-1811 and >from 1826-1869.

Kind regards
Naomi Ogin
Brisbane
Searching;BRESNARK,CHERNOSKY,CHORGAN,
DAVIDOVITCH,DOMANIS,GOLDWITZ,GREENBERG,
HARYUDAH,HIATT,HUNT,LEBIS,OGIN,ORGIN,
POLIAKOFF,RABIN,RABINOVITCH,RANDALL,
RESNICK,RUBINSTEIN,TISMAN,TISHMAN,WILSON,WOLFSON

JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom FW: Passenger Arrivals to the UK 1810-1869 #unitedkingdom

a1steve@...
 

Dear All

In September last year, I posted to see if anyone had ever seen
various arrival files held at the UK Archives..one of the mAjor sites now
has a free search available for Alien Arrivals to England from
1810-1811 and >from 1826-1869.

Kind regards
Naomi Ogin
Brisbane
Searching;BRESNARK,CHERNOSKY,CHORGAN,
DAVIDOVITCH,DOMANIS,GOLDWITZ,GREENBERG,
HARYUDAH,HIATT,HUNT,LEBIS,OGIN,ORGIN,
POLIAKOFF,RABIN,RABINOVITCH,RANDALL,
RESNICK,RUBINSTEIN,TISMAN,TISHMAN,WILSON,WOLFSON

KALMAN / COHEN and MOSS #unitedkingdom

hoekie@...
 

Hi Genners,

I am looking for Patricia KALMAN (living) who visited Nancy LUCKETT (nee
MOSS) of Bognor Regis in the years before she died in 1977. Aunt Nancy is a
blood relative in common.
Patricia married Ian COHEN, probably live in or around London.

Pieter Hoekstra
Sydney Australia
hoekie@...

Researching;
MOSS - London and Brighton
COHEN - London
KALMAN - London
LUCKETT - Hampshire
HOEKSTRA - Friesland

JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom KALMAN / COHEN and MOSS #unitedkingdom

hoekie@...
 

Hi Genners,

I am looking for Patricia KALMAN (living) who visited Nancy LUCKETT (nee
MOSS) of Bognor Regis in the years before she died in 1977. Aunt Nancy is a
blood relative in common.
Patricia married Ian COHEN, probably live in or around London.

Pieter Hoekstra
Sydney Australia
hoekie@...

Researching;
MOSS - London and Brighton
COHEN - London
KALMAN - London
LUCKETT - Hampshire
HOEKSTRA - Friesland