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Who Do You Think You Are? Stephen Fry #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

The genealogy programme entitled "Who Do You Think You Are?" on BBC TV
has proved immensely popular; well-known entertainers, actors, politicians
and personalities explore their roots. The second series started two weeks
ago with one of our best-known hardened political interviewers reduced to
tears, when he discovers the details of the life of his great-grandmother.

On Jan 25 2006 at 9.00 pm on BBC 2, all our members in the UK are in for
a big surprise - you can see actor Stephen FRY explore his roots [Vienna
and Surany {Slovakia}], with our Austria-Czech Sigger, Vladimir Bohinc. I
know it will also be very emotional.

The trailer tells us that on Stephen's maternal side, he finds far worse
[than on his father's side] - as not for the first time in the series the
subject stumbles on everyday, middle-class lives that ended in concentration
camps ..... "

I can reveal that my part was minimal - I did a bit of the background work
in Vienna - to solve the puzzle! But I have not seen the programme either.

Celia Male [U.K.]


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Who Do You Think You Are? Stephen Fry #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

The genealogy programme entitled "Who Do You Think You Are?" on BBC TV
has proved immensely popular; well-known entertainers, actors, politicians
and personalities explore their roots. The second series started two weeks
ago with one of our best-known hardened political interviewers reduced to
tears, when he discovers the details of the life of his great-grandmother.

On Jan 25 2006 at 9.00 pm on BBC 2, all our members in the UK are in for
a big surprise - you can see actor Stephen FRY explore his roots [Vienna
and Surany {Slovakia}], with our Austria-Czech Sigger, Vladimir Bohinc. I
know it will also be very emotional.

The trailer tells us that on Stephen's maternal side, he finds far worse
[than on his father's side] - as not for the first time in the series the
subject stumbles on everyday, middle-class lives that ended in concentration
camps ..... "

I can reveal that my part was minimal - I did a bit of the background work
in Vienna - to solve the puzzle! But I have not seen the programme either.

Celia Male [U.K.]


Testing and adoption #dna

AZ61BROOK@...
 

Hi,

If a woman was adopted, and was not sure if her birth parents were
Jewish, would any of these tests show any information indicating
origins?

Would they show a possibility of Jewish ancestors, or possibly another
type of ancestor, such as Asian, Irish, German non-Jewish ancestors?

Thank you,

B Mill


DNA Research #DNA Testing and adoption #dna

AZ61BROOK@...
 

Hi,

If a woman was adopted, and was not sure if her birth parents were
Jewish, would any of these tests show any information indicating
origins?

Would they show a possibility of Jewish ancestors, or possibly another
type of ancestor, such as Asian, Irish, German non-Jewish ancestors?

Thank you,

B Mill


Re: Descendants of the Shach #rabbinic

Tomer Brunner
 

On 2006.01.04, Malkie Griffel <barmag@...> asked:

Would anyone know where I can get a hold of the descendants of
the Shach, Rabbi Shabsai HaKohen?
There is a book entitled "Keter Kehuna" by Chaim Dov Fridberg,
printed in 1898 and reprinted in 1993 (in Brooklyn). It's in Hebrew,
about 80 pages long, with many details about the Sha"ch's
descendants. You can find it in University librararies in Israel.
I couldn't find my link in that book, but I hope you do.

My g-g-g-g-g-grandmother was, Beila, wife of Rabbi Yosef-Moshe
TEICHER (of Czudec, Zolynia and Przemysl). she died c. 1864. Her
father, Yaakov, was a descendant of the Sha"ch, Rabbi Shabsai
HaKohen, but I have no further details.

Best regards,
Tomer Brunner, Israel.


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic RE: Descendants of the Shach #rabbinic

Tomer Brunner
 

On 2006.01.04, Malkie Griffel <barmag@...> asked:

Would anyone know where I can get a hold of the descendants of
the Shach, Rabbi Shabsai HaKohen?
There is a book entitled "Keter Kehuna" by Chaim Dov Fridberg,
printed in 1898 and reprinted in 1993 (in Brooklyn). It's in Hebrew,
about 80 pages long, with many details about the Sha"ch's
descendants. You can find it in University librararies in Israel.
I couldn't find my link in that book, but I hope you do.

My g-g-g-g-g-grandmother was, Beila, wife of Rabbi Yosef-Moshe
TEICHER (of Czudec, Zolynia and Przemysl). she died c. 1864. Her
father, Yaakov, was a descendant of the Sha"ch, Rabbi Shabsai
HaKohen, but I have no further details.

Best regards,
Tomer Brunner, Israel.


Re: R' Yaacov Koppel of Likuva #rabbinic

Yaron Rotman <yarotman@...>
 

On 2006.01.20, Zeva Oelbaum <zeva@...> wrote:

[...] I know that Yaacov Koppel was the grandfather of the "Seer
of Lublin" and that he wrote a book. Any other information would
be appreciated.
I previously posted a query here regarding R' Yaacov Koppel of
Likuva (or Lukow?), a.k.a. "Koppale Likover". According to a family
tree prepared by a distant relative, with additional info >from Otzar
HaRabbanim:

1. He is the maternal grandfather of the Seer of Lublin, R' Yaacov
Isaac HOROWITZ

2. Another grandson (>from his son Israel Leib) was R' Simon Marils
from Jaroslaw. His grandson, Efraim Fishel Chelmaner, ABD
Szrzekociny was the son in law of R' Moshe BIDERMAN, The 2nd Lelow
Tzadik, >from whom I am descended.

Can anyone corroborate these data?

Yaron Rotman
yarotman@...


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: R' Yaacov Koppel of Likuva #rabbinic

Yaron Rotman <yarotman@...>
 

On 2006.01.20, Zeva Oelbaum <zeva@...> wrote:

[...] I know that Yaacov Koppel was the grandfather of the "Seer
of Lublin" and that he wrote a book. Any other information would
be appreciated.
I previously posted a query here regarding R' Yaacov Koppel of
Likuva (or Lukow?), a.k.a. "Koppale Likover". According to a family
tree prepared by a distant relative, with additional info >from Otzar
HaRabbanim:

1. He is the maternal grandfather of the Seer of Lublin, R' Yaacov
Isaac HOROWITZ

2. Another grandson (>from his son Israel Leib) was R' Simon Marils
from Jaroslaw. His grandson, Efraim Fishel Chelmaner, ABD
Szrzekociny was the son in law of R' Moshe BIDERMAN, The 2nd Lelow
Tzadik, >from whom I am descended.

Can anyone corroborate these data?

Yaron Rotman
yarotman@...


Re: JCR: Cornwall Road in London 1918 #unitedkingdom

Aubrey Jacobus <zen28027@...>
 

The Cornwall Rd being sought has been identified - in notting Hill W11 well
before 1939
Aubrey

----- Original Message -----
From: "jeremy frankel" <jfrankel@...>
To: "JCR-UK SIG" <jcr-uk@...>
Cc: <JGrodz@...>
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 6:26 PM
Subject: [jcr-uk] JCR: Cornwall Road in London 1918


Dear Jonathan,

In looking at a modern A-Z for London, I see that there are a total
of ten Cornwall Roads; four of them have London postal district
appellations: N4, N15, N18, SE1, while six are in the London suburbs:
Croydon, Esher, Harrow, Pinner, Sutton and Twickenham. If Jonathan is
fairly sure that the business was in London, then we can probably
disregard the suburb locations

I then looked at my pre-war (WW2) A-Z, I see that there are five
Cornwall Roads with postal district appellations: E2, N4, N15, SE1,
and W11.

E2 - a very short street in Bethnal Green/Mile End area. It ran
westwards off Braintree Street (still there today). It was renamed
Cornwall AVENUE in 1938.

N4 - this too is a short "one block long" street running east-west
between Lancaster Road and Oakfield Road in Finsbury Park. It is just
to the west of the park. It is still there today.

N15 - one mile NE of the N4 location. It runs north-south >from St.
Ann's Road to Green Road in the North Harringay area. It is still
there today

N18 - getting closer to the "'burbs." A "very" short street running
north-south >from Angel Road (A 406) to Fairfield Road. It is so small
that most maps don't name it, but it is the second one >from the right
going east >from Fore Street as one walks down Fairfield. Still there
today.

SE1 - this runs roughly north-south >from Upper Ground to The Cut in
Lambeth. This too is still there today.

So, Jonathan, which one? By the way, there is a Grodzinski's bakery
at the bottom of my road, Edgwarebury Lane, Edgware where my mother
gets her challah every week.

Jeremy G Frankel
ex-Edgware, Middlesex, England
Berkeley, California, USA


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: JCR: Cornwall Road in London 1918 #unitedkingdom

Aubrey Jacobus <zen28027@...>
 

The Cornwall Rd being sought has been identified - in notting Hill W11 well
before 1939
Aubrey

----- Original Message -----
From: "jeremy frankel" <jfrankel@...>
To: "JCR-UK SIG" <jcr-uk@...>
Cc: <JGrodz@...>
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 6:26 PM
Subject: [jcr-uk] JCR: Cornwall Road in London 1918


Dear Jonathan,

In looking at a modern A-Z for London, I see that there are a total
of ten Cornwall Roads; four of them have London postal district
appellations: N4, N15, N18, SE1, while six are in the London suburbs:
Croydon, Esher, Harrow, Pinner, Sutton and Twickenham. If Jonathan is
fairly sure that the business was in London, then we can probably
disregard the suburb locations

I then looked at my pre-war (WW2) A-Z, I see that there are five
Cornwall Roads with postal district appellations: E2, N4, N15, SE1,
and W11.

E2 - a very short street in Bethnal Green/Mile End area. It ran
westwards off Braintree Street (still there today). It was renamed
Cornwall AVENUE in 1938.

N4 - this too is a short "one block long" street running east-west
between Lancaster Road and Oakfield Road in Finsbury Park. It is just
to the west of the park. It is still there today.

N15 - one mile NE of the N4 location. It runs north-south >from St.
Ann's Road to Green Road in the North Harringay area. It is still
there today

N18 - getting closer to the "'burbs." A "very" short street running
north-south >from Angel Road (A 406) to Fairfield Road. It is so small
that most maps don't name it, but it is the second one >from the right
going east >from Fore Street as one walks down Fairfield. Still there
today.

SE1 - this runs roughly north-south >from Upper Ground to The Cut in
Lambeth. This too is still there today.

So, Jonathan, which one? By the way, there is a Grodzinski's bakery
at the bottom of my road, Edgwarebury Lane, Edgware where my mother
gets her challah every week.

Jeremy G Frankel
ex-Edgware, Middlesex, England
Berkeley, California, USA


Re: JCR: Cornwall Road in London 1918 #unitedkingdom

Aubrey Jacobus <zen28027@...>
 

The Cornwall Rd being sought has been identified - in notting Hill W11 well
before 1939
Aubrey

----- Original Message -----
From: "jeremy frankel" <jfrankel@...>
To: "JCR-UK SIG" <jcr-uk@...>
Cc: <JGrodz@...>
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 6:26 PM
Subject: [jcr-uk] JCR: Cornwall Road in London 1918


Dear Jonathan,

In looking at a modern A-Z for London, I see that there are a total
of ten Cornwall Roads; four of them have London postal district
appellations: N4, N15, N18, SE1, while six are in the London suburbs:
Croydon, Esher, Harrow, Pinner, Sutton and Twickenham. If Jonathan is
fairly sure that the business was in London, then we can probably
disregard the suburb locations

I then looked at my pre-war (WW2) A-Z, I see that there are five
Cornwall Roads with postal district appellations: E2, N4, N15, SE1,
and W11.

E2 - a very short street in Bethnal Green/Mile End area. It ran
westwards off Braintree Street (still there today). It was renamed
Cornwall AVENUE in 1938.

N4 - this too is a short "one block long" street running east-west
between Lancaster Road and Oakfield Road in Finsbury Park. It is just
to the west of the park. It is still there today.

N15 - one mile NE of the N4 location. It runs north-south >from St.
Ann's Road to Green Road in the North Harringay area. It is still
there today

N18 - getting closer to the "'burbs." A "very" short street running
north-south >from Angel Road (A 406) to Fairfield Road. It is so small
that most maps don't name it, but it is the second one >from the right
going east >from Fore Street as one walks down Fairfield. Still there
today.

SE1 - this runs roughly north-south >from Upper Ground to The Cut in
Lambeth. This too is still there today.

So, Jonathan, which one? By the way, there is a Grodzinski's bakery
at the bottom of my road, Edgwarebury Lane, Edgware where my mother
gets her challah every week.

Jeremy G Frankel
ex-Edgware, Middlesex, England
Berkeley, California, USA



At 12:00 AM -0600 1/19/06, JCR-UK SIG digest wrote:
Subject: Cornwall Road in London 1918
From: JGrodz@...
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:14:43 -0500

I have just found my grandfather Abie GRODZINSKI statement of
affairs drawn up after his death in 1918. Abie was aged 32 at the
time and was running the family bakery business in Fieldgate Street
in London's East End.

In the statement there is reference to rates and rent ....... also
to "107 Cornwall Road" (without any indication of where this was in
London). My late uncle told me that the family had had a shop in
West London at approximately that time.

I have looked at current Cornwall Roads, but before I start
investigating them, I would like to know whether there were others
in London in 1918. I have found an index of changed street names
but it is alphabetical according to current and not old names.

So can anyone help me find my grandfather's Cornwall Road? I think
that No. 107 would have been a baker's shop and may have had some
Jewish population nearby.


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: JCR: Cornwall Road in London 1918 #unitedkingdom

Aubrey Jacobus <zen28027@...>
 

The Cornwall Rd being sought has been identified - in notting Hill W11 well
before 1939
Aubrey

----- Original Message -----
From: "jeremy frankel" <jfrankel@...>
To: "JCR-UK SIG" <jcr-uk@...>
Cc: <JGrodz@...>
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 6:26 PM
Subject: [jcr-uk] JCR: Cornwall Road in London 1918


Dear Jonathan,

In looking at a modern A-Z for London, I see that there are a total
of ten Cornwall Roads; four of them have London postal district
appellations: N4, N15, N18, SE1, while six are in the London suburbs:
Croydon, Esher, Harrow, Pinner, Sutton and Twickenham. If Jonathan is
fairly sure that the business was in London, then we can probably
disregard the suburb locations

I then looked at my pre-war (WW2) A-Z, I see that there are five
Cornwall Roads with postal district appellations: E2, N4, N15, SE1,
and W11.

E2 - a very short street in Bethnal Green/Mile End area. It ran
westwards off Braintree Street (still there today). It was renamed
Cornwall AVENUE in 1938.

N4 - this too is a short "one block long" street running east-west
between Lancaster Road and Oakfield Road in Finsbury Park. It is just
to the west of the park. It is still there today.

N15 - one mile NE of the N4 location. It runs north-south >from St.
Ann's Road to Green Road in the North Harringay area. It is still
there today

N18 - getting closer to the "'burbs." A "very" short street running
north-south >from Angel Road (A 406) to Fairfield Road. It is so small
that most maps don't name it, but it is the second one >from the right
going east >from Fore Street as one walks down Fairfield. Still there
today.

SE1 - this runs roughly north-south >from Upper Ground to The Cut in
Lambeth. This too is still there today.

So, Jonathan, which one? By the way, there is a Grodzinski's bakery
at the bottom of my road, Edgwarebury Lane, Edgware where my mother
gets her challah every week.

Jeremy G Frankel
ex-Edgware, Middlesex, England
Berkeley, California, USA



At 12:00 AM -0600 1/19/06, JCR-UK SIG digest wrote:
Subject: Cornwall Road in London 1918
From: JGrodz@...
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:14:43 -0500

I have just found my grandfather Abie GRODZINSKI statement of
affairs drawn up after his death in 1918. Abie was aged 32 at the
time and was running the family bakery business in Fieldgate Street
in London's East End.

In the statement there is reference to rates and rent ....... also
to "107 Cornwall Road" (without any indication of where this was in
London). My late uncle told me that the family had had a shop in
West London at approximately that time.

I have looked at current Cornwall Roads, but before I start
investigating them, I would like to know whether there were others
in London in 1918. I have found an index of changed street names
but it is alphabetical according to current and not old names.

So can anyone help me find my grandfather's Cornwall Road? I think
that No. 107 would have been a baker's shop and may have had some
Jewish population nearby.


Re: Pipik? #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Karen Rippens asked:

Something triggered a childhood memory of the word pipik. I vaguely
remember jokes about Moishe Pipik, as in 'who do you think you are,
Moishe Pipik?'

I can't find the word in any Yiddish resource I have. Can anyone
tell me what 'pipik' means? Or where it came from, or what the joke
about it is?''
Dear Karen,

Pipik ( actually spelled Peh-vav-peh-ayin-qof and pronounced Pupik in
some Yiddish dialects) means"belly button" (i.e., navel).

For me too it is a childhood memory. We didn't speak Yiddish in our
Anglo-Jewish family, but my parents used quite a few vocabulary words
-- mostly either amusing or just plain vulgar ones!

Judith Romney Wegner


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Pipik? #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Karen Rippens asked:

Something triggered a childhood memory of the word pipik. I vaguely
remember jokes about Moishe Pipik, as in 'who do you think you are,
Moishe Pipik?'

I can't find the word in any Yiddish resource I have. Can anyone
tell me what 'pipik' means? Or where it came from, or what the joke
about it is?''
Dear Karen,

Pipik ( actually spelled Peh-vav-peh-ayin-qof and pronounced Pupik in
some Yiddish dialects) means"belly button" (i.e., navel).

For me too it is a childhood memory. We didn't speak Yiddish in our
Anglo-Jewish family, but my parents used quite a few vocabulary words
-- mostly either amusing or just plain vulgar ones!

Judith Romney Wegner


Need translation of a registration written in Polish #general

Richard McDonald <richardmcdonald@...>
 

I am requesting assistance in the translation of a birth record written in
Polish.

You can view file :
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7399


Please respond directly to me, thanks.

Martha Laufer McDonald
Dallas, TX USA

marthamcdonald@...

Researching:
LAUFER-Lodz and Lenchits, Poland
GOLDSZTAINS-Lodz and Lenchits, Poland
SOCHACZEWSKICH-Poland
TSALE or CALES-Poland


Castle Garden passenger list #general

Toby Bey <tbey@...>
 

My gf Samuel ASHKANOZY was b1874.

I have not been able to find him on any passenger
list for 1888 at the Castle Garden web site.
Does anyone know if they are adding to this web site?

The 1920 NY census states Austria as his birthplace.
He is buried at First Bolechower S. Ben. Assn.,
Maspeth, New York. His first cousin is also buried
in the same area.

Would I look for his birth records listed under
Austria, Galician or Poland?

Toby Bey
North Palm Beach, Florida


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Need translation of a registration written in Polish #general

Richard McDonald <richardmcdonald@...>
 

I am requesting assistance in the translation of a birth record written in
Polish.

You can view file :
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7399


Please respond directly to me, thanks.

Martha Laufer McDonald
Dallas, TX USA

marthamcdonald@...

Researching:
LAUFER-Lodz and Lenchits, Poland
GOLDSZTAINS-Lodz and Lenchits, Poland
SOCHACZEWSKICH-Poland
TSALE or CALES-Poland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Castle Garden passenger list #general

Toby Bey <tbey@...>
 

My gf Samuel ASHKANOZY was b1874.

I have not been able to find him on any passenger
list for 1888 at the Castle Garden web site.
Does anyone know if they are adding to this web site?

The 1920 NY census states Austria as his birthplace.
He is buried at First Bolechower S. Ben. Assn.,
Maspeth, New York. His first cousin is also buried
in the same area.

Would I look for his birth records listed under
Austria, Galician or Poland?

Toby Bey
North Palm Beach, Florida


Chaim WILENCZIK & Moris MICHLETZ s.s. Hellig Olav" Arrival New York 11/30/1904. #general

sandrabergman <sandrabergman@...>
 

Hi,

My paternal grandfather Moses MICHOLITZ, Russian, Labourer and Chaim
WILENCZIK, (perhaps also spelt differently) Russian, Painter, travelled on
s.s."Hellig Olav" Copenhagen to Ellis Island, arriving 30th November, 1904.
Perhaps they are cousins as they both give the name of the uncle they are
going to in New York "?. VILENSKY,138 Madison Street, New York.

I would appreciate it if anyone can tell me Mr. Vilensky's initial of his
given name.

I would like to hear >from descendants of Chaim Wilenczik.

With my thanks,

Sandra Bergman
Melbourne
Australia

Researching MICHOLITZ, MICHAEL, MICHAELOVITCH, UNGER, PURCELL, BERGMAN, MONSKALL,
MOSKAL, ETTINGER (Poland/Russia) ETTINGER (Montreal) CANTOR, SMULLIEN
(Lithuania/Belfast/Dublin).


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Chaim WILENCZIK & Moris MICHLETZ s.s. Hellig Olav" Arrival New York 11/30/1904. #general

sandrabergman <sandrabergman@...>
 

Hi,

My paternal grandfather Moses MICHOLITZ, Russian, Labourer and Chaim
WILENCZIK, (perhaps also spelt differently) Russian, Painter, travelled on
s.s."Hellig Olav" Copenhagen to Ellis Island, arriving 30th November, 1904.
Perhaps they are cousins as they both give the name of the uncle they are
going to in New York "?. VILENSKY,138 Madison Street, New York.

I would appreciate it if anyone can tell me Mr. Vilensky's initial of his
given name.

I would like to hear >from descendants of Chaim Wilenczik.

With my thanks,

Sandra Bergman
Melbourne
Australia

Researching MICHOLITZ, MICHAEL, MICHAELOVITCH, UNGER, PURCELL, BERGMAN, MONSKALL,
MOSKAL, ETTINGER (Poland/Russia) ETTINGER (Montreal) CANTOR, SMULLIEN
(Lithuania/Belfast/Dublin).