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Czar's Army #general

Robin Sherman <strathtch@...>
 

Is there a source for military records in theVitebsk/Odessa region in the
late 1800's -early 1900's? I have an exclusion(reserves) form >from 1901 for
a greatgrandfather translated >from Russian.
R. Sherman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Czar's Army #general

Robin Sherman <strathtch@...>
 

Is there a source for military records in theVitebsk/Odessa region in the
late 1800's -early 1900's? I have an exclusion(reserves) form >from 1901 for
a greatgrandfather translated >from Russian.
R. Sherman


larklane@juno.com #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

James Gross asked:
>

I found inquiries for missing relatives published in the (UK)
Jewish Chronicle. The dates are 10/2/25, 4/21/22, and 3/10/22.
Most if not all the searches are >from people in Russia,
like Riga and Odessa.I was not looking for things during
this period and just happened to come across it by accident.
Question: Does anyone know why there missing relative ads
during this time period. And, can anyone venture as to what
dates a researcher would tend to find MORE ads?
After WW 2, the Jewish Chronicle maintained a weekly "missing relatives"
column for decades. In fact I believe it still does (though I am no longer
a regular reader and cannot vouch for this). In general, the missing
relatives were people who failed to return after the war, no doubt because
most of them had perished in the Holocaust. Since the ads routinely gave
the name both of the searcher and of the person being sought, these names
could provide JGenners in the USA with many possible leads to both English
and European relatives.

Judith Romney Wegner
jrw@brown.edu


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen larklane@juno.com #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

James Gross asked:
>

I found inquiries for missing relatives published in the (UK)
Jewish Chronicle. The dates are 10/2/25, 4/21/22, and 3/10/22.
Most if not all the searches are >from people in Russia,
like Riga and Odessa.I was not looking for things during
this period and just happened to come across it by accident.
Question: Does anyone know why there missing relative ads
during this time period. And, can anyone venture as to what
dates a researcher would tend to find MORE ads?
After WW 2, the Jewish Chronicle maintained a weekly "missing relatives"
column for decades. In fact I believe it still does (though I am no longer
a regular reader and cannot vouch for this). In general, the missing
relatives were people who failed to return after the war, no doubt because
most of them had perished in the Holocaust. Since the ads routinely gave
the name both of the searcher and of the person being sought, these names
could provide JGenners in the USA with many possible leads to both English
and European relatives.

Judith Romney Wegner
jrw@brown.edu


Re: Rotterdam Gravestone Translation - Aug 26 #general

Jim Bennett <bennett@...>
 

Rene van Wijngaarden requested a translation his ancestor's
gravestone.The numbers
on my transliterationand translation correspond to the lines on the
"Matzeva" which he posted.

1. Even Zicharon
2. Me'et Hevra Kadisha
3. Menachem Evalim HaHadasha
4. Al Kever
5. Marat Beila bat Avraham Hanum (?)
6. Kleher/Klar, Eshet Moshe Van Daelen
7. Niftara Yud Tet Nissan
8. Taf Resh Het Tzadi Le'F'K (L'Frat Kattan)
9 T'hi Nismata Tzrora B'Tzror HaHaim

1. A Memorial Stone
2-3 >from the New Comforting of Mourners Burial Society
4. On the Grave
5. of Mrs. Beila, daughter of Abraham known as
6. Kleher/Klar ?, wife of Moshe van Daelen
7. Died 19 Nissan
8. 5698 (=1938)
9 May her soul be bound up in the bond of everlasting life!

Notes: The woman might have had no surviving family in Rotterdam at the
time of her death, or they were quite poor, because it seems that the
community
burial society erected the gravestone at its expense.

The letters Taf Resh Tzadi Het amount to 698. The letter Heh,
representing
the number 5000 is never used. Instead the year is followed by the word
L'Frat Kattan, meaning: by small count. So that the year is really
5000+698=5698=1938.

However, the keen observer will note that in the above text the last two
letter-numbers
are reversed. Instead of Taf Resh Tzadi Het, we see Taf Resh Het
Tzadi. The reason is
that the former spells out the Hebrew word Tirtzach, which means
"Murder" in the
imperative form: Go Murder!! So instead of having that year,
5698=1938, known as
Shnat Tirtzach, The Year of Murder, the last two letters were reversed.
This was not
a new concept at the time. It is an ancient tradition. Recently, in
1983-4 we observed
the year Taf Shin Mem Daled, which spells Tashmad, the Hebrew word to
destroy or
obliterate. Then, too, the last two letters were reversed, spelling
Tashdem, which isn't a
real word in Hebrew, but shares the root of Shdema, a field or
cornfield.

By coincidence, in the Van Daelen gravestone, the reversal of the last
two letters caused the
pronunciation of another, totally different Hebrew word: Tirchatz.
Wash or Cleanse. Unhappily,
that year, 1937-8 was far more a year of murder--of Jews in Nazi
Germany--than of cleansing.
Kristallnacht, which occurred in November 1938, fell in the following
year, 5699, which began in
September 1938. Its letter-numbers, Taf Resh Tzadi Tet, spell no word
at all.

In the bulletin board postings of members requesting gravestone
translations, I have noticed
a large amount of misreading of Hebrew letters: Vav, Zain, Nun sofi and
Yud are often
mistaken for one another. Also resh and daled; gimel and nun, heh and
het, chaf and bet,
tet and mem, samech and mem sofi, etc. Also there are problems with the
spacing between
words. Requests should at least be typed with clear spaces between
words, and should
be written line by line, exactly as they appear on the stone itself.
This is for a special reason:
On many stones the first letter in each line (read >from the right, of
course) represents a letter
of a word, which when combined, >from top to bottom, spell out something
important. It's like
a vertical acrostic. Another "hidden message" on gravestones can be
found in letters that are
larger or bolder than the surrounding ones, or that are marked by an
underline or dot below them.
In an e-mail posting it's easy to mark them with an underline, alerting
the translator to
seek the additional meaning.

Jim Bennett, Haifa, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Rotterdam Gravestone Translation - Aug 26 #general

Jim Bennett <bennett@...>
 

Rene van Wijngaarden requested a translation his ancestor's
gravestone.The numbers
on my transliterationand translation correspond to the lines on the
"Matzeva" which he posted.

1. Even Zicharon
2. Me'et Hevra Kadisha
3. Menachem Evalim HaHadasha
4. Al Kever
5. Marat Beila bat Avraham Hanum (?)
6. Kleher/Klar, Eshet Moshe Van Daelen
7. Niftara Yud Tet Nissan
8. Taf Resh Het Tzadi Le'F'K (L'Frat Kattan)
9 T'hi Nismata Tzrora B'Tzror HaHaim

1. A Memorial Stone
2-3 >from the New Comforting of Mourners Burial Society
4. On the Grave
5. of Mrs. Beila, daughter of Abraham known as
6. Kleher/Klar ?, wife of Moshe van Daelen
7. Died 19 Nissan
8. 5698 (=1938)
9 May her soul be bound up in the bond of everlasting life!

Notes: The woman might have had no surviving family in Rotterdam at the
time of her death, or they were quite poor, because it seems that the
community
burial society erected the gravestone at its expense.

The letters Taf Resh Tzadi Het amount to 698. The letter Heh,
representing
the number 5000 is never used. Instead the year is followed by the word
L'Frat Kattan, meaning: by small count. So that the year is really
5000+698=5698=1938.

However, the keen observer will note that in the above text the last two
letter-numbers
are reversed. Instead of Taf Resh Tzadi Het, we see Taf Resh Het
Tzadi. The reason is
that the former spells out the Hebrew word Tirtzach, which means
"Murder" in the
imperative form: Go Murder!! So instead of having that year,
5698=1938, known as
Shnat Tirtzach, The Year of Murder, the last two letters were reversed.
This was not
a new concept at the time. It is an ancient tradition. Recently, in
1983-4 we observed
the year Taf Shin Mem Daled, which spells Tashmad, the Hebrew word to
destroy or
obliterate. Then, too, the last two letters were reversed, spelling
Tashdem, which isn't a
real word in Hebrew, but shares the root of Shdema, a field or
cornfield.

By coincidence, in the Van Daelen gravestone, the reversal of the last
two letters caused the
pronunciation of another, totally different Hebrew word: Tirchatz.
Wash or Cleanse. Unhappily,
that year, 1937-8 was far more a year of murder--of Jews in Nazi
Germany--than of cleansing.
Kristallnacht, which occurred in November 1938, fell in the following
year, 5699, which began in
September 1938. Its letter-numbers, Taf Resh Tzadi Tet, spell no word
at all.

In the bulletin board postings of members requesting gravestone
translations, I have noticed
a large amount of misreading of Hebrew letters: Vav, Zain, Nun sofi and
Yud are often
mistaken for one another. Also resh and daled; gimel and nun, heh and
het, chaf and bet,
tet and mem, samech and mem sofi, etc. Also there are problems with the
spacing between
words. Requests should at least be typed with clear spaces between
words, and should
be written line by line, exactly as they appear on the stone itself.
This is for a special reason:
On many stones the first letter in each line (read >from the right, of
course) represents a letter
of a word, which when combined, >from top to bottom, spell out something
important. It's like
a vertical acrostic. Another "hidden message" on gravestones can be
found in letters that are
larger or bolder than the surrounding ones, or that are marked by an
underline or dot below them.
In an e-mail posting it's easy to mark them with an underline, alerting
the translator to
seek the additional meaning.

Jim Bennett, Haifa, Israel


Minsk Gub. Research Project - Interested? #belarus

David M. Fox <fox@...>
 

I recently wrote Oleg Perzashkevich, Director of Minsk Genealogy Group
about doing some work for the Belarus SIG similar to the work they did for
the Bobruisk interest group. Please take a look at the following site and
go to the various links.

http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlinks/bobruisk/summary.html

The data was provided by Oleg Perzashkevich. I asked him if he could
provide this information for all of the towns/shtetls in Minsk, Vitebsk,
and Mogilev gubernii. He said he could and gave a cost of $500 to do
all of Minsk District. I didn't think the price was unreasonable if it
included all towns and villages in what used to be Minsk Gubernia. I have
sent Oleg a message asking him to clarify this point.

I am personally committed to make a $50 donation to get this work done.
Are there others with ties to Minsk Gubernia willing to chip in to get
this work done? If there is enough interest, I will add this project to
the Belarus SIG JewishGen-erosity page and those you are willing to
donate to this project can do so. When we reach $500 dollars, I will
tell Oleg to procede.
If this effort works out, we will try and do the same thing with Mogilev
and Vitebsk gubernii.





David M. Fox
fox@erols.com
Arnold, MD
Belarus SIG Co-Coordinator

JOIN THE BELARUS SIG
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/belarus2.txt

Researching: Minsk: TSIVIN (SIVIN), RABINOWITZ, HURWITZ, FEIN
Mogilev & NYC: SCHENDEROFF (OV), TSIVIN, SHER, FYTELSON
Rogachev(BYL) & NYC: FYTELSON (FEITELSON), TELSON, COHEN
Popielniki, Dzurow, Banila (UKR): FUCHS, HUDES, MECHLAWICZ,

TISCHLER, LOBEL, LABALVITCH


Belarus Sessions at NY Seminar #belarus

David M. Fox <fox@...>
 

Dear Belarus Researchers,

The 19th annual Jewish Genealogy Seminar will be held in New York City
Aug. 8-13, 1999. The program chairperson for the seminar is Hadassah
Lipsius, a member of the Belarus SIG.

At the Jewish Genealogy Seminar in LA this past July, there were no
lectures specificly dealing with Belarus, although there were many that
were relevent to Belarus as well as other areas.

Are there any members of this SIG was might be interested in presenting a
lecture dealing with genealogy research in Belarus? If you are, you
should contact Hadassah Lipsius at
<kesher@aol.com>.

Does anyone have any suggestions for topics of interest to researchers
with family ties to Belaurs? Please share these with the group and we
can pass them on to Hadassah.



David M. Fox
fox@erols.com
Arnold, MD
Belarus SIG Co-Coordinator

JOIN THE BELARUS SIG
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/belarus2.txt

Researching: Minsk: TSIVIN (SIVIN), RABINOWITZ, HURWITZ, FEIN
Mogilev & NYC: SCHENDEROFF (OV), TSIVIN, SHER, FYTELSON
Rogachev(BYL) & NYC: FYTELSON (FEITELSON), TELSON, COHEN
Popielniki, Dzurow, Banila (UKR): FUCHS, HUDES, MECHLAWICZ,

TISCHLER, LOBEL, LABALVITCH


Belarus SIG #Belarus Minsk Gub. Research Project - Interested? #belarus

David M. Fox <fox@...>
 

I recently wrote Oleg Perzashkevich, Director of Minsk Genealogy Group
about doing some work for the Belarus SIG similar to the work they did for
the Bobruisk interest group. Please take a look at the following site and
go to the various links.

http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlinks/bobruisk/summary.html

The data was provided by Oleg Perzashkevich. I asked him if he could
provide this information for all of the towns/shtetls in Minsk, Vitebsk,
and Mogilev gubernii. He said he could and gave a cost of $500 to do
all of Minsk District. I didn't think the price was unreasonable if it
included all towns and villages in what used to be Minsk Gubernia. I have
sent Oleg a message asking him to clarify this point.

I am personally committed to make a $50 donation to get this work done.
Are there others with ties to Minsk Gubernia willing to chip in to get
this work done? If there is enough interest, I will add this project to
the Belarus SIG JewishGen-erosity page and those you are willing to
donate to this project can do so. When we reach $500 dollars, I will
tell Oleg to procede.
If this effort works out, we will try and do the same thing with Mogilev
and Vitebsk gubernii.





David M. Fox
fox@erols.com
Arnold, MD
Belarus SIG Co-Coordinator

JOIN THE BELARUS SIG
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/belarus2.txt

Researching: Minsk: TSIVIN (SIVIN), RABINOWITZ, HURWITZ, FEIN
Mogilev & NYC: SCHENDEROFF (OV), TSIVIN, SHER, FYTELSON
Rogachev(BYL) & NYC: FYTELSON (FEITELSON), TELSON, COHEN
Popielniki, Dzurow, Banila (UKR): FUCHS, HUDES, MECHLAWICZ,

TISCHLER, LOBEL, LABALVITCH


Belarus SIG #Belarus Belarus Sessions at NY Seminar #belarus

David M. Fox <fox@...>
 

Dear Belarus Researchers,

The 19th annual Jewish Genealogy Seminar will be held in New York City
Aug. 8-13, 1999. The program chairperson for the seminar is Hadassah
Lipsius, a member of the Belarus SIG.

At the Jewish Genealogy Seminar in LA this past July, there were no
lectures specificly dealing with Belarus, although there were many that
were relevent to Belarus as well as other areas.

Are there any members of this SIG was might be interested in presenting a
lecture dealing with genealogy research in Belarus? If you are, you
should contact Hadassah Lipsius at
<kesher@aol.com>.

Does anyone have any suggestions for topics of interest to researchers
with family ties to Belaurs? Please share these with the group and we
can pass them on to Hadassah.



David M. Fox
fox@erols.com
Arnold, MD
Belarus SIG Co-Coordinator

JOIN THE BELARUS SIG
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/belarus2.txt

Researching: Minsk: TSIVIN (SIVIN), RABINOWITZ, HURWITZ, FEIN
Mogilev & NYC: SCHENDEROFF (OV), TSIVIN, SHER, FYTELSON
Rogachev(BYL) & NYC: FYTELSON (FEITELSON), TELSON, COHEN
Popielniki, Dzurow, Banila (UKR): FUCHS, HUDES, MECHLAWICZ,

TISCHLER, LOBEL, LABALVITCH


Pages of Kagan and Cohen from the all Lithuania Database #lithuania

Chana Luntz <heather@...>
 

In the All Lithuania Database there are references to "Kagan"
pp596-599 that contain names that of extreme interest to me - also to
"Cohen" p 15 and p19.

I don't know exactly what the titles of these two books are (and can't
seem to find them >from the database), although I was aware of their
existance, and at one stage tried to find a copy in Israel, but they did not
appear to be found either at the Hebrew University or anywhere else in
an Israeli library connected to the Hebrew University system. I gather
from the fact that the data is entered into the database that somebody
has a copy.

What I would really like, is a copy of these critical pages, and wondered
if whoever it was out there who had a copy would be able to copy
them and send them to me.

Short of that, perhaps somebody could tell me the full amount of
information found regarding:

LUNTZBen Tzion Avraham - Died 1862 in Rasein; Kagan p596 -
Survivors Found After WW2 - 1853 SiauliaiSiauliaiKovno

LUNTZBen Tzion Avraham - Alechsander- Kagan p598 -Survivors
Found After WW2

Are these the same person? Is the Aharon said to be the son of a
Benzion on p596 the son of the above? - how about the one on p599?

And also on:

EliezerZev ben Getzel ben Yechezke - Cohen p19 - Rabbi - Survivors
Found After WW2- SiauliaiSiauliaiKovno

LUNTZ Eliezer - Father of Hirshele; Cohen p15- Rabbi for almost 60
years until 1808- Survivors Found After WW2 - 1808

Are these the same person?

Thanks

Chana
heather@luntz.demon.co.uk


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Pages of Kagan and Cohen from the all Lithuania Database #lithuania

Chana Luntz <heather@...>
 

In the All Lithuania Database there are references to "Kagan"
pp596-599 that contain names that of extreme interest to me - also to
"Cohen" p 15 and p19.

I don't know exactly what the titles of these two books are (and can't
seem to find them >from the database), although I was aware of their
existance, and at one stage tried to find a copy in Israel, but they did not
appear to be found either at the Hebrew University or anywhere else in
an Israeli library connected to the Hebrew University system. I gather
from the fact that the data is entered into the database that somebody
has a copy.

What I would really like, is a copy of these critical pages, and wondered
if whoever it was out there who had a copy would be able to copy
them and send them to me.

Short of that, perhaps somebody could tell me the full amount of
information found regarding:

LUNTZBen Tzion Avraham - Died 1862 in Rasein; Kagan p596 -
Survivors Found After WW2 - 1853 SiauliaiSiauliaiKovno

LUNTZBen Tzion Avraham - Alechsander- Kagan p598 -Survivors
Found After WW2

Are these the same person? Is the Aharon said to be the son of a
Benzion on p596 the son of the above? - how about the one on p599?

And also on:

EliezerZev ben Getzel ben Yechezke - Cohen p19 - Rabbi - Survivors
Found After WW2- SiauliaiSiauliaiKovno

LUNTZ Eliezer - Father of Hirshele; Cohen p15- Rabbi for almost 60
years until 1808- Survivors Found After WW2 - 1808

Are these the same person?

Thanks

Chana
heather@luntz.demon.co.uk


Re: Judge Leon SANDERS - New York 1900s #general

Irwin Nack <inack@...>
 

The Old Records Room of the NYC Municipal Archives (31 Chambers St.) has
a variety of records relating to attorneys and public judicial officials
going back to the 18th century. If Judge Sands was a NYC judge, chances
are there would be some info there.

Good Luck
Irwin Nack


Allan Jordan wrote:


Anyone have any information on Judge Leon SANDERS.


Anyone in VancBC to share/exchange ideas, help #general

Betty Levine <blevine@...>
 

Looking for other persons interested in genealogy pursuit
in Vancouver, B.C. willing to share info,
exchange ideas,
and/or any available help, tips (how to) on LDS in Burnaby for first timer would be very helpful.

Specific areas of research are:
Gora Kalwaria,
Lodz
Lublin
Kalisz
Czestochowa

Names being researched: SZLIKIER, KANTOROWICZ

Thank you.
Betty
can be reached at
blevine@computerhelp.ca


Re: Surname of CHRISTIAN #general

Gary Goldberg <XGaryG@...>
 

Harold Pollins wrote:


In my original question I also asked whether a Jew would be likely to have
the name Christian as a forename. I should be glad to have any views or
experience of that.
I met a guy named Chris in the Caribbean who said he was a Greek-born Jew.
He said it wasn't all that unusual for a Greek Jew to be named Chris (or
Christos, or whatever the Greek equivalent is). He had a small grocery on
the Lower East Side of NYC.

-Gary Goldberg
(Remove "X" >from address to reply)


one for the books :>)) #general

arlene parnes <arlene@...>
 

On July 22 I sent to the NYC Archives for the birth certificate of my great
uncle.
Today I received an envelope containing the following:

A letter with his exact name, birth year, and borough, stating they could
not find him

Also enclosed was the copy of the original birth certificate with complete
information.

Just thought you all would like a laugh.
Arlene in FL


Re: Judge Leon SANDERS - New York 1900s #general

A. E. Jordan
 

A big opps to everyone on my prior message about Judge Leon Sanders -- if you
did not guess it should be 1871 not 1971!

If you have any information about him I would love to hear >from you.

Thanks.

Allan Jordan
aejordan@aol.com


Searching Levine Drug of Florida #general

Bernard Levine <rbtr8r@...>
 

I am searching for the descendants of the persons who owned Levine Drug
of Florida. I believe the original owners were Samuel and Arthur LEVINE,
the sons of Yankel LEVINE nee LEIBOWITZ. Yankel was a brother of my
paternal grandfather Baruch Mayer LEVINE. Samuel and Arthur were first
cousins of my father, Aaron, who, had he lived to today, would be 109
years old. Therefore, if Arthur and Samuel were about his age, it is
unlikely they are still living. As a result it is their descendants that
I am seeking. But for this branch of my family tree, it is complete and
I will share the rest of the tree with the descendants.

Please reply to Bernard Levine (Rbtr8r@juno.com)


Re: accessing High School Records in NYC #general

Carol Skydell <skydell@...>
 

By now there must be several messages identifying
Erasmus Hall High School in Brooklyn...

I'd like to add that my sister and I were very successful
in getting photocopies of our mother's mention in the
yearbooks >from Morris High in the Bronx. Our source was a very helpful
school librarian who dug out the old yearbooks.

So, the librarian at Erasmus (hate to tell you what we in the
Bronx called it <grin>:) would be a good person to contact.

Carol Skydell
Chilmark MA


Harry J. COHEN-Brooklyn #general

Rob Berman <rberman@...>
 

Any connections out there? Harry (1890-1938c.), brother of Joe & Harry; Son
of Golda & Chiam BLUM