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Synagogues #general

RUP29@...
 

Maybe someone in the UK can help me?
Need to find wedding certificate of Lewis LEVY and Elizabeth EDDLESTONE
married at The Old Hebrew Congregation Synagogue at Princess Road,
Liverpool,UK 1880.
Regards again Valerie Gold
PS, I am making a little progress with my tree but its growing very
slowly.Maybe its a Bonsai?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Synagogues #general

RUP29@...
 

Maybe someone in the UK can help me?
Need to find wedding certificate of Lewis LEVY and Elizabeth EDDLESTONE
married at The Old Hebrew Congregation Synagogue at Princess Road,
Liverpool,UK 1880.
Regards again Valerie Gold
PS, I am making a little progress with my tree but its growing very
slowly.Maybe its a Bonsai?


Re: Der Israelit Newspaper #general

Paula Eisenstein Baker <eisenbak@...>
 

Dear Claude and all:

The Leo Baeck Institute in NY might have this publication: as of 1996, the
librarian's name there was Spencer Scott, the e-mail address for the library
was <lbil@...>, and their address was 123 East 73 Street, NY, NY
10021 (sorry I don't have a phone number).

Note that LBI is one of the four institutions that will be part of the new
Center for Jewish History in NY, and they may have already packed much of
their material for the move. But you might be able to learn something about
their holdings.

Good luck.

Paula Eisenstein Baker
Houston, TX

Claude M. Oulman wrote:

from 1860 to 1938 "Der Israelit" was published in Frankfurt. I
understand it was a major newspaper for observant Jews. Does anyone
out there in JGland know if there is a US library housing this
publication? Of course,I am hoping for a fully indexed set of papers!


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Der Israelit Newspaper #general

Paula Eisenstein Baker <eisenbak@...>
 

Dear Claude and all:

The Leo Baeck Institute in NY might have this publication: as of 1996, the
librarian's name there was Spencer Scott, the e-mail address for the library
was <lbil@...>, and their address was 123 East 73 Street, NY, NY
10021 (sorry I don't have a phone number).

Note that LBI is one of the four institutions that will be part of the new
Center for Jewish History in NY, and they may have already packed much of
their material for the move. But you might be able to learn something about
their holdings.

Good luck.

Paula Eisenstein Baker
Houston, TX

Claude M. Oulman wrote:

from 1860 to 1938 "Der Israelit" was published in Frankfurt. I
understand it was a major newspaper for observant Jews. Does anyone
out there in JGland know if there is a US library housing this
publication? Of course,I am hoping for a fully indexed set of papers!


Re: Boston, Mass. Census #general

Alan Rosenfield <arosen@...>
 

When I was a boy in the Boston area (around 1940) a policeman came around
every year to take
a Census. If memory serves correctly, it was intended to find out whether
registered voters listed at the address were actually living there. So I
think that the list was turned over to the City Clerk, who maintians the
voter lists. When I came of age, I noticed that the name and address
of each voter was posted at the entrance to the polling place. Crooked
politicians would hire people to go >from precinct to precinct, check the
list, and cast votes for dead people and those out of town. When my father
returned in 1921 >from working in Warsaw for three years, he found that he had
never missed an election. Since I left Boston over thirty years ago, I
don't know what the procedure is now.

As far as using your information is concerned, I reccommend writing to the
City Clerk in Boston for a copy of the voter registration card for the
person that you are interested in. The ones I received >from Chelsea (same
County) contain address, birthplace, naturalization date and place. These
were >from the early 1900's. I don't remember what the cost was, somethinbg
like five dollars.

Many states, including Ohio, purge voter lists frequently. This is a great
loss to genealogy since voter registration cards contain a lot of valuable
information.

Al Rosenfield
1650 Ridgway Pl., Columbus OH 43212 USA
e-mail <arosen@...>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Boston, Mass. Census #general

Alan Rosenfield <arosen@...>
 

When I was a boy in the Boston area (around 1940) a policeman came around
every year to take
a Census. If memory serves correctly, it was intended to find out whether
registered voters listed at the address were actually living there. So I
think that the list was turned over to the City Clerk, who maintians the
voter lists. When I came of age, I noticed that the name and address
of each voter was posted at the entrance to the polling place. Crooked
politicians would hire people to go >from precinct to precinct, check the
list, and cast votes for dead people and those out of town. When my father
returned in 1921 >from working in Warsaw for three years, he found that he had
never missed an election. Since I left Boston over thirty years ago, I
don't know what the procedure is now.

As far as using your information is concerned, I reccommend writing to the
City Clerk in Boston for a copy of the voter registration card for the
person that you are interested in. The ones I received >from Chelsea (same
County) contain address, birthplace, naturalization date and place. These
were >from the early 1900's. I don't remember what the cost was, somethinbg
like five dollars.

Many states, including Ohio, purge voter lists frequently. This is a great
loss to genealogy since voter registration cards contain a lot of valuable
information.

Al Rosenfield
1650 Ridgway Pl., Columbus OH 43212 USA
e-mail <arosen@...>


Searching: MOSTOWY or MOSTOVYA(Kiev Khazar) #general

James Most <jmost@...>
 

Any info, especially on Morris MOST would be appreciated.
James Most


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: MOSTOWY or MOSTOVYA(Kiev Khazar) #general

James Most <jmost@...>
 

Any info, especially on Morris MOST would be appreciated.
James Most


A Naturalization Mystery Crying For Solution #general

Norman Feldman <felvelnic@...>
 

I have my father's original naturalization certificate which says he became
a citizen on 12/13/10. While checking an index for my uncle's
naturalization I came across the index card for my father.This card lists
an "old" certifcate # dated 12/13/10 and a "new"certificate # dated
2/25/13! No explanation is given and only the 2 witnesses for the "old"
certificate are listed.I checked the petition I have carefully and found
the same two certificate numbers and dates noted in handwritten ink in the
section labled "Order of the court admitting petitioner".

I'm open to considering all kinds of explanations and I hope you have one
to offer me.Also suggestions of where to go for an official one.

L'shana Tova all,
Norman Feldman
Albuquerque, NM


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen A Naturalization Mystery Crying For Solution #general

Norman Feldman <felvelnic@...>
 

I have my father's original naturalization certificate which says he became
a citizen on 12/13/10. While checking an index for my uncle's
naturalization I came across the index card for my father.This card lists
an "old" certifcate # dated 12/13/10 and a "new"certificate # dated
2/25/13! No explanation is given and only the 2 witnesses for the "old"
certificate are listed.I checked the petition I have carefully and found
the same two certificate numbers and dates noted in handwritten ink in the
section labled "Order of the court admitting petitioner".

I'm open to considering all kinds of explanations and I hope you have one
to offer me.Also suggestions of where to go for an official one.

L'shana Tova all,
Norman Feldman
Albuquerque, NM


citizenship applications from INS #general

Beverly Stuart <bstuart@...>
 

Hello,

I am wondering if anyone out there has tried getting copies of family
member's citizenship applications >from the Immigration and Naturalization
Service. My question is, do you need a copy of the person's death
certificate? I am hoping that by getting a copy of the citizenship
application for my grandfather, I could find out important things like his
birth date, mother's maiden name, etc. If anyone has any experience with
getting this type of document, please let me know. Thank you.

Beverly Stuart


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen citizenship applications from INS #general

Beverly Stuart <bstuart@...>
 

Hello,

I am wondering if anyone out there has tried getting copies of family
member's citizenship applications >from the Immigration and Naturalization
Service. My question is, do you need a copy of the person's death
certificate? I am hoping that by getting a copy of the citizenship
application for my grandfather, I could find out important things like his
birth date, mother's maiden name, etc. If anyone has any experience with
getting this type of document, please let me know. Thank you.

Beverly Stuart


Retail Store List #yizkorbooks

Susannah R. Juni <SJuni@...>
 

<<<Would also appreciate the e-mail address of Robinson booksellers in Te=
l
Aviv.
I understand they have a good supply of Yiskor Books. Many thanks. Edward=

G.
Cohen, Long Beach, NY>>>

You can find a listing of retail stores, including many email addresses b=
y
going to the Yizkor Book Project Home Page:

http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/

Then, go to InfoFiles and =


select the Retail Establishments list.


Yizkor Books #YizkorBooks Retail Store List #yizkorbooks

Susannah R. Juni <SJuni@...>
 

<<<Would also appreciate the e-mail address of Robinson booksellers in Te=
l
Aviv.
I understand they have a good supply of Yiskor Books. Many thanks. Edward=

G.
Cohen, Long Beach, NY>>>

You can find a listing of retail stores, including many email addresses b=
y
going to the Yizkor Book Project Home Page:

http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/

Then, go to InfoFiles and =


select the Retail Establishments list.


TMG - Timelines #belarus

Elsebeth Paikin
 

A suggestion for cooperation:
-----------------------------

I am using The Master Genealogist (TMG) for my research, and I have just
begun to make a "Timelines"-file specifically listing historical events
concerning Jewish history.

Primarily I focus on the events in Russia and Poland which led up to the
emigration at the end of the 19th Century and the beginning of the 20th
Century, as that is the most important topic for me in my research at the
present.

However, I plan to expand this "Timelines"-file so that it covers all the
persons in my research. It will take time, of course. But as the
"Timelines"-file develops I will make it available to others in some way
(Maybe downloadable >from www.JewishGen.org? Or just sent it to those who
ask for it?

I suppose that such "Timelines" would also be of interest for other
JewishGenners - even if using other programs.

I therefore thought that we might help each other in creating such a
"Timelines"-file.

The file used by TMG is a DBase-file, but that is of no importance, it
could be any database-program as long as it has the option of a Memo-field.
It could also be a structured textfile. In all cases the file could be
converted to the DBase-file used by TMG, or it could be converted so some
other format used my other genealogy-programs.

The database-file should consist of four fields:

Year
Month
Date
Memo-field for text.

A text-file could be structured correspondingly with one line for each
field and a marker for end of the entry. Or it could be structured as a
delimited textfile with e.g. "," between the fields and a new line for each
entry:
Example:
"Year","Month","Date","Text .........end of text"
"Year"," "," ","Text .........end of text"
Empty fields = " "

As I see it there are two possible methods of cooperation:

1.
We can work on each our set of timelines and share it with each other every
month or so.

2.
Someone could collect single pieces of information (e.g. sent by e-mail)
and enter it in the database, and at intervals send the database to those
participating in the project (and others). (I'll be willing to do that).

3.
We can just enter all and every historic detail we encounter, or we can
split up into groups focusing on specific areas.


Let me hear if ane of you is interested in this
and any suggestions will be most welcome.

Best regards


--
Elsebeth Paikin, Copenhagen, Denmark,
e-mail: elsebeth@...


Belarus SIG #Belarus TMG - Timelines #belarus

Elsebeth Paikin
 

A suggestion for cooperation:
-----------------------------

I am using The Master Genealogist (TMG) for my research, and I have just
begun to make a "Timelines"-file specifically listing historical events
concerning Jewish history.

Primarily I focus on the events in Russia and Poland which led up to the
emigration at the end of the 19th Century and the beginning of the 20th
Century, as that is the most important topic for me in my research at the
present.

However, I plan to expand this "Timelines"-file so that it covers all the
persons in my research. It will take time, of course. But as the
"Timelines"-file develops I will make it available to others in some way
(Maybe downloadable >from www.JewishGen.org? Or just sent it to those who
ask for it?

I suppose that such "Timelines" would also be of interest for other
JewishGenners - even if using other programs.

I therefore thought that we might help each other in creating such a
"Timelines"-file.

The file used by TMG is a DBase-file, but that is of no importance, it
could be any database-program as long as it has the option of a Memo-field.
It could also be a structured textfile. In all cases the file could be
converted to the DBase-file used by TMG, or it could be converted so some
other format used my other genealogy-programs.

The database-file should consist of four fields:

Year
Month
Date
Memo-field for text.

A text-file could be structured correspondingly with one line for each
field and a marker for end of the entry. Or it could be structured as a
delimited textfile with e.g. "," between the fields and a new line for each
entry:
Example:
"Year","Month","Date","Text .........end of text"
"Year"," "," ","Text .........end of text"
Empty fields = " "

As I see it there are two possible methods of cooperation:

1.
We can work on each our set of timelines and share it with each other every
month or so.

2.
Someone could collect single pieces of information (e.g. sent by e-mail)
and enter it in the database, and at intervals send the database to those
participating in the project (and others). (I'll be willing to do that).

3.
We can just enter all and every historic detail we encounter, or we can
split up into groups focusing on specific areas.


Let me hear if ane of you is interested in this
and any suggestions will be most welcome.

Best regards


--
Elsebeth Paikin, Copenhagen, Denmark,
e-mail: elsebeth@...


NagyKanizsa Cemetery Names #hungary

ezwiebac <ezwiebac@...>
 

In March, 1998, I received a diagram; a small part of the Jewish cemetery in
N.Kanizsa, Zala County, Hungary. I got this >from Sandor Rajnai, President of
the Jewish Congregation there . This part covered where my grandmother is
buried (1901). The diagram is a grid 13 x 18 with names in about 44% of the
spaces. Only names are shown. I wish I could provide more info about this
diagram (why so many empty spaces?). Listed below are the names:
Row I.
Space 1 Satler, Lipat
2 Kremlauer, Katalin
3 Klein, Fulop
4 Kremlauer, Terez
7 Flesch, Rozal
10 Horschetsky, Gyula
11 Breuer, Salamon
14 Pollak, Fani
15 Steiner, Jozefa
16 Klein, Lina
Row II
1 Israel Sch. 712
8 Fuchs, Ign.
9 Kastel, Leop.
12 Steiner , Lina
13 Neufpid , Mina
14 Kremsier , Filip
18 Kremsier , Hani
Row III
1 Kohn , Jozef
2 Herzfeld , Pepi
4 Szivatly , Kut
6 Schwarz , Filip
7 Smerd , Lotty
8 Pollak , Mor
15 Weisz , Moricz
16 Weisz , Babetta
18 Lang , Jozef
Row IV
1 Ofner , Jozsefne
4 Lodiszlai , Jozsef
5 Fleischacker , Mina
8 Oblat , Sandor
12 Gelzl , Jakob
17 Weber , Sofi
17 Beck , Ber.
18 Weiler , Lazar
Row V
3 Hirschler , Lob
6 Schwarz , Roza
7 Markus , Soffi
8 Ritscher , Fani
9 Stern , Moric
Row VI
1 Trautmann , Henrich
6 Kohn , Terez
7 Baum , Ascher
8 Reberger , Eduard
9 Ritscher , Heniette
13 Steiner, Albert
18 Singer , Jakob
Row VII
1 Schwarzenberger , Mari
8 Nemschitz , David
9 Sattler, Charlotte
10 Klein , Mor
11 Lowy , Gunoy
12 Grunbaum , Fani
13 Horn , Betty
18 Spitzkopf , Marie
Row VIII
1 Rosenfeld , Jozsef
2 Rosenfeld , Samu
5 Ritscher , Terez
6 Frank , Ign.
10 Pollak , Fani
15 Rosenfeld , Terez
16 Schlesinger, Moritz
17 Rechnitzer , Abraham
18 Lobl , Laura
Row IX
1 Killer , Julia
2 Steiner , Salam.
3 Blau , Adolf
4 Eisensteter , Anna
6 Fischer, Fani
7 Musdultter , Katalin
8 Milhofer , Fani
10 Scherz , Sandor
11 Singer , Sandor
12 Lausch , Rosa
14 Schapringer , Ida
15 Fischer , Rosalia
Row X
4 Muller , Leni
5 Erlich , Julie
8 Novak , Mozes
9 Eisinger , Helene
12 Manneberg , Jesaja
16 Schlesinger , Rozal
18 Rothenstein , L.ne
Row XI
1 Schlesinger , Bernat
2 Handler , Roza
6 Weber , Emanuel
7 Pollak ,Lotti
8 Singer , Sandor
10 Kohn , Cecilia
17 Fischer , Maria
Row XII
1 Rechnitz , Lipot
8 Ladiszlau , Julie
15 Weiler , Johanna
16 Neumann , Henrik
18 Greiger, Sim.
Row XIII
1 Berger , Jozefa
2 Grossman , Julie
3 Weisz , Mor
9 Schwarzenberg , Em.
12 Gelger , Josefine
13 Politzer , Jakab
14 Markus , Regina
16 Rechnitzer , Beffi
17 Pollak , Albert
18 Deutsch , Katalin


Regards,
Ed Zwieback
Long Beach, CA
Researching:
ZWIEBACK/Herend, Hung.; Graz, Aus.
POLLAK/KOHN/N.Kanizsa, Hung.; Varazdin, Croa.
MARKBREITER/RISTA/Vienna, Aus.
GOLDSCHMIDT/SCHWARTZ/N.Kanizsa, Hung.


Hungary SIG #Hungary NagyKanizsa Cemetery Names #hungary

ezwiebac <ezwiebac@...>
 

In March, 1998, I received a diagram; a small part of the Jewish cemetery in
N.Kanizsa, Zala County, Hungary. I got this >from Sandor Rajnai, President of
the Jewish Congregation there . This part covered where my grandmother is
buried (1901). The diagram is a grid 13 x 18 with names in about 44% of the
spaces. Only names are shown. I wish I could provide more info about this
diagram (why so many empty spaces?). Listed below are the names:
Row I.
Space 1 Satler, Lipat
2 Kremlauer, Katalin
3 Klein, Fulop
4 Kremlauer, Terez
7 Flesch, Rozal
10 Horschetsky, Gyula
11 Breuer, Salamon
14 Pollak, Fani
15 Steiner, Jozefa
16 Klein, Lina
Row II
1 Israel Sch. 712
8 Fuchs, Ign.
9 Kastel, Leop.
12 Steiner , Lina
13 Neufpid , Mina
14 Kremsier , Filip
18 Kremsier , Hani
Row III
1 Kohn , Jozef
2 Herzfeld , Pepi
4 Szivatly , Kut
6 Schwarz , Filip
7 Smerd , Lotty
8 Pollak , Mor
15 Weisz , Moricz
16 Weisz , Babetta
18 Lang , Jozef
Row IV
1 Ofner , Jozsefne
4 Lodiszlai , Jozsef
5 Fleischacker , Mina
8 Oblat , Sandor
12 Gelzl , Jakob
17 Weber , Sofi
17 Beck , Ber.
18 Weiler , Lazar
Row V
3 Hirschler , Lob
6 Schwarz , Roza
7 Markus , Soffi
8 Ritscher , Fani
9 Stern , Moric
Row VI
1 Trautmann , Henrich
6 Kohn , Terez
7 Baum , Ascher
8 Reberger , Eduard
9 Ritscher , Heniette
13 Steiner, Albert
18 Singer , Jakob
Row VII
1 Schwarzenberger , Mari
8 Nemschitz , David
9 Sattler, Charlotte
10 Klein , Mor
11 Lowy , Gunoy
12 Grunbaum , Fani
13 Horn , Betty
18 Spitzkopf , Marie
Row VIII
1 Rosenfeld , Jozsef
2 Rosenfeld , Samu
5 Ritscher , Terez
6 Frank , Ign.
10 Pollak , Fani
15 Rosenfeld , Terez
16 Schlesinger, Moritz
17 Rechnitzer , Abraham
18 Lobl , Laura
Row IX
1 Killer , Julia
2 Steiner , Salam.
3 Blau , Adolf
4 Eisensteter , Anna
6 Fischer, Fani
7 Musdultter , Katalin
8 Milhofer , Fani
10 Scherz , Sandor
11 Singer , Sandor
12 Lausch , Rosa
14 Schapringer , Ida
15 Fischer , Rosalia
Row X
4 Muller , Leni
5 Erlich , Julie
8 Novak , Mozes
9 Eisinger , Helene
12 Manneberg , Jesaja
16 Schlesinger , Rozal
18 Rothenstein , L.ne
Row XI
1 Schlesinger , Bernat
2 Handler , Roza
6 Weber , Emanuel
7 Pollak ,Lotti
8 Singer , Sandor
10 Kohn , Cecilia
17 Fischer , Maria
Row XII
1 Rechnitz , Lipot
8 Ladiszlau , Julie
15 Weiler , Johanna
16 Neumann , Henrik
18 Greiger, Sim.
Row XIII
1 Berger , Jozefa
2 Grossman , Julie
3 Weisz , Mor
9 Schwarzenberg , Em.
12 Gelger , Josefine
13 Politzer , Jakab
14 Markus , Regina
16 Rechnitzer , Beffi
17 Pollak , Albert
18 Deutsch , Katalin


Regards,
Ed Zwieback
Long Beach, CA
Researching:
ZWIEBACK/Herend, Hung.; Graz, Aus.
POLLAK/KOHN/N.Kanizsa, Hung.; Varazdin, Croa.
MARKBREITER/RISTA/Vienna, Aus.
GOLDSCHMIDT/SCHWARTZ/N.Kanizsa, Hung.


Re: * Being a Jew (was Re: Center for Jewish History) #hungary

Gabor Hirsch <hirsch@...>
 

Dear all
About beeing a Hungarian Jew, as far as I know, all my ancestors lived in the part, which is Hungary today. But for similar reason as Tom Venetianer told, I have difficulty to feel myself as a patriot or a Hungarian Jew, but I am of Hungarian and Jewish origin. There seems to be some different feeling between those whose ancestors emigrated in an earlier time
and were raised in a Hungarian Jewish tradition, and the ones who spent WWII in the country and emigrated later or may be the ones who still live in Hungary.

There was some antisemitism in the country already in the 20ies there were some attrocities against the jewish population ("feherterror"[mod: means White Terror- refer to the reaction against the short lived Socialist takeover by Bela Kun, a Hungarian Jew] against the bolshevik, but unproportianally against Jews too). after WWI the Hungarian goverment was the first to exploit the "jewish question" Teleki 1920-21 & 1939-41 and promulage antijewish laws (Randolph Braham)
In the 30ies under minister and president Daranyi and Imredy the antijewish laws were intensified with the 2nd anti Jewish legislation ind Dec. 1938 by ministers Teleki & Tasnadi Nagy,and then the 3rd antijewish laws under Bardossy Aug. 1941.

In the murder at Kamanec- Podolsk of several thousand expelled (18,000) Jews who could not prove Hungarian citizenship for at least 2 generation,s Hungary at least was partly to blame, as well for the attrocities agaionst the Jews in Delvidek/ Ujvidek. Edmund Weesenmayer stated during the trial against Ferenczy Laszlo: (about the concentration and deportation of Hungarian Jewry) "To fufill such a big task in a three month period, was only possible with the enthusiastic help of the Hungarian authorities."

In the Ghettos, there were Hungarian, who tortured the women, to find out were valuables, jewellery etc. were hidden. A Hungarian speaking Slovakien friend of mine (>from Bratislava) told me, that he don't like Hungarians (including Jews) because as a child refugee (15 years), in Hungary he never got any help, not even >from the Jewish community. He
was deported with many Hungarians to Auschwitz.

I am definitly not again feeling Hungarian or whatever you want to feel, but I am against ruleing [mod: I could not guess the meaning of the word] and generalisations.

Best regards
Gabor Hirsch
----------------------------
Tom Venetianer previously wrote:

Just to come back to Hungary, the Hungarians *never* allowed Jews to be
free and full fledged citizens. To support this statement, please read the book written by my famous ancestor Venetianer Lajos (A Magyar Zsidosag
Tortenete - the history of Hungarian Jewry) who was *requested* by the
Budapest Jewish community to write a book in DEFENSE of the Hungarian Jews, demonstrating how good and decent citizens they were for centuries. The book is dated 1922 when religious integration and assimilations were the buzzwords. 20 years later the Arrow Cross were slaughtering us.

For G-d's sake, how can somebody feel himself a Hungarian Jew?
--------------------
Linda Cohen wrote:

I am an American who is Jewish, and I am a Jew who is an American. I don't need any one to give me the right to be who I am. No one can take who I am >from me as what we are in our minds and hearts


Re: Kapnibanya #hungary

diane goldman <dgoldman@...>
 

My map of Transylvania (purchased just this summer in Hungary) includes
Kapnikbanya (apparently the Hungarian name, as a Romanian name is noted
next to it--Cavnic). The town is east of Baia Mare (I'm guessing 30
km--the map is mostly great, but I've not located the scale on it). My
map includes pretty small towns, but this one looks large enough that it
should show on most maps. East of Baia Mare does mean Maramures, I
believe.

. . . . Can someone help me with the location of Kapnibanya? My aunt
was born there. It is located in Transylvania or more probably
Maramures. --Alfred Klein

--Diane Goldman
Bethesda, Md.
<dgoldman@...>