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UK certificates #general

Harold Pollins <pollins@...>
 

It is possible to get copies of births, marriages and death certificates
from the local registrar's office which issued the certificate in the first
place. The advantage is that it is much cheaper, at six pounds fifty pence,
than applying to the Southport office or the Family History Centre. In my
experience the service is quick.

You need of course to know the name and address of the local office but
this can readily be obtained, in Britain >from the local public library.
One difficulty is that some of the registration districts changed, notably
in the East End of London, which is relevant for us as it contained the
largest concentration of Jews in Britain. The Index tells the place where
the event was registered and the office you apply to will advise if they
are the appropriate one. However, some local records in the East End - and
perhaps elsewhere - were destroyed in the bombing during the Second World
War.

You need as usual to give as much information as possible including names
of parents (in the case of a birth) and if a marriage specify that it took
place in a synagogue (if it is likely that it did) as local records tend to
be by churches etc rather than alphabetically for all marriages.

You normally write to the Superintendent Registrar and enclose a stamped,
addressed envelope. I understand they perform the same service for orders
from abroad. I believe they prefer that cheques be paid in sterling, drawn
on a bank with branches in or with arrangements with banks located in the
UK; it need not be a British bank.

This all applies to England and Wales. I am not familiar with the
requirements of Scotland or Northern Ireland which have separate
registration arrangements.


Harold Pollins

pollins@globalnet.co.uk


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen UK certificates #general

Harold Pollins <pollins@...>
 

It is possible to get copies of births, marriages and death certificates
from the local registrar's office which issued the certificate in the first
place. The advantage is that it is much cheaper, at six pounds fifty pence,
than applying to the Southport office or the Family History Centre. In my
experience the service is quick.

You need of course to know the name and address of the local office but
this can readily be obtained, in Britain >from the local public library.
One difficulty is that some of the registration districts changed, notably
in the East End of London, which is relevant for us as it contained the
largest concentration of Jews in Britain. The Index tells the place where
the event was registered and the office you apply to will advise if they
are the appropriate one. However, some local records in the East End - and
perhaps elsewhere - were destroyed in the bombing during the Second World
War.

You need as usual to give as much information as possible including names
of parents (in the case of a birth) and if a marriage specify that it took
place in a synagogue (if it is likely that it did) as local records tend to
be by churches etc rather than alphabetically for all marriages.

You normally write to the Superintendent Registrar and enclose a stamped,
addressed envelope. I understand they perform the same service for orders
from abroad. I believe they prefer that cheques be paid in sterling, drawn
on a bank with branches in or with arrangements with banks located in the
UK; it need not be a British bank.

This all applies to England and Wales. I am not familiar with the
requirements of Scotland or Northern Ireland which have separate
registration arrangements.


Harold Pollins

pollins@globalnet.co.uk


Similarity of names. #general

Gillian Zebaida
 

Thank you one and all for your confirmation that Feige/Feiga (and many
other spellings) was Fannie. The responses became too numerous to thank
individually.
Gillian Zebaida.
Researching: AMERIKANER (Ickelheim), BLUMENTHAL / ROBBINS (San Francisco),
DOLLAR/Dolliar / DUBE / ZASLAVER (Mogilev Podolskiy), EISMANN/EISEMANN
(?Grosskrotzenberg), HERZBERGER / NORDHAUSER (Wustensachen),OPPENHEIMER
(Worms), HIRSCHMANN / SCHMIDT (Grosskrotzenberg) REUS (Reis/Reiss),
SHOVERS (Racine, Wi) WERTHEIMER (Mannehim), ZEBAIDA (Iraq/USA)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Similarity of names. #general

Gillian Zebaida
 

Thank you one and all for your confirmation that Feige/Feiga (and many
other spellings) was Fannie. The responses became too numerous to thank
individually.
Gillian Zebaida.
Researching: AMERIKANER (Ickelheim), BLUMENTHAL / ROBBINS (San Francisco),
DOLLAR/Dolliar / DUBE / ZASLAVER (Mogilev Podolskiy), EISMANN/EISEMANN
(?Grosskrotzenberg), HERZBERGER / NORDHAUSER (Wustensachen),OPPENHEIMER
(Worms), HIRSCHMANN / SCHMIDT (Grosskrotzenberg) REUS (Reis/Reiss),
SHOVERS (Racine, Wi) WERTHEIMER (Mannehim), ZEBAIDA (Iraq/USA)


Re: Istvan PARTOS (Szeged, Hungary) #general

JGyori <jgyori@...>
 

Erika thinks that at some stage (before her gf.), the family name could
have been POLLAK. She does not know how, when or why the name was changed.
Dear Jacques,

My entire family is Hungarian and name changes seem to be quite frequent. Often
a result of "Hungarianizing" a name to be less Jewish sounding.

I have found that the official record of a name change was almost always noted
in the birth records. In the LDS films prior to 1895, I found notes that listed
name changes in 1901 and 1907.

Try looking up some of those old records.

Judi Missel
Mesa, Arizona


fyi: History of the Jews In Russia (Exhibition) #general

Bernard Kouchel <koosh@...>
 

Beyond The Pale: The History of the Jews In Russia (Exhibition)
http://www.jcn18.com/

--
Bernard I. Kouchel
<koosh@att.net>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Istvan PARTOS (Szeged, Hungary) #general

JGyori <jgyori@...>
 

Erika thinks that at some stage (before her gf.), the family name could
have been POLLAK. She does not know how, when or why the name was changed.
Dear Jacques,

My entire family is Hungarian and name changes seem to be quite frequent. Often
a result of "Hungarianizing" a name to be less Jewish sounding.

I have found that the official record of a name change was almost always noted
in the birth records. In the LDS films prior to 1895, I found notes that listed
name changes in 1901 and 1907.

Try looking up some of those old records.

Judi Missel
Mesa, Arizona


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen fyi: History of the Jews In Russia (Exhibition) #general

Bernard Kouchel <koosh@...>
 

Beyond The Pale: The History of the Jews In Russia (Exhibition)
http://www.jcn18.com/

--
Bernard I. Kouchel
<koosh@att.net>


Searching: Yitchuck GUTVEIN (France, c.1948?) #general

Gayle Schlissel Riley <key2pst@...>
 

Does anyone know a Yitchuck GUTVEIN ? In 1948, he wrote the book," A
Memory of my Shtetl, Dzkow" >from Paris. I wish to get in contact with him
or his children.

I also seek any EDER's in Israel >from Tarnobrzeg,
Dzikow or Tarnow.
If you know of any other books besides the Yiskor book written about
this town, PLEASE share it with me.

Researching EDER and SCHLISSEL >from Tarnobrzeg, Galicia

Thanks,
Gayle Schlissel Riley


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: Yitchuck GUTVEIN (France, c.1948?) #general

Gayle Schlissel Riley <key2pst@...>
 

Does anyone know a Yitchuck GUTVEIN ? In 1948, he wrote the book," A
Memory of my Shtetl, Dzkow" >from Paris. I wish to get in contact with him
or his children.

I also seek any EDER's in Israel >from Tarnobrzeg,
Dzikow or Tarnow.
If you know of any other books besides the Yiskor book written about
this town, PLEASE share it with me.

Researching EDER and SCHLISSEL >from Tarnobrzeg, Galicia

Thanks,
Gayle Schlissel Riley


Searching: Ella MEYERSOHN, Erasmus High early 1900's #general

BSHRINK@...
 

I am still trying to get information on my grandmother, and when I called the
secretary at Erasmus, she indicated that they have misplaced their yearbooks
as they are remodeling. She suggested I try to find someone with yearbooks
from this era to look up my grandmother. Her name was Ella (POLLY)
MEYERSOHN...probably 1904,05, 06,07, etc.(the sohn spelling is a little
different)

Would appreciate any help I could get..I live in Texas or I would go to the
Brooklyn Library and see if they have them...

Thanks,
Betty Feir


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: Ella MEYERSOHN, Erasmus High early 1900's #general

BSHRINK@...
 

I am still trying to get information on my grandmother, and when I called the
secretary at Erasmus, she indicated that they have misplaced their yearbooks
as they are remodeling. She suggested I try to find someone with yearbooks
from this era to look up my grandmother. Her name was Ella (POLLY)
MEYERSOHN...probably 1904,05, 06,07, etc.(the sohn spelling is a little
different)

Would appreciate any help I could get..I live in Texas or I would go to the
Brooklyn Library and see if they have them...

Thanks,
Betty Feir


Searching Arvichever Landsmanschaften #general

judieson@...
 

I am interested in the Arvichever Landsmanschaften Burial Society from
Brooklyn; burial within the past l0 years of Shupack family. Any variant
spelling of course would be considered. Thank you,
Judie C. Rice
Torrance, California


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching Arvichever Landsmanschaften #general

judieson@...
 

I am interested in the Arvichever Landsmanschaften Burial Society from
Brooklyn; burial within the past l0 years of Shupack family. Any variant
spelling of course would be considered. Thank you,
Judie C. Rice
Torrance, California


Re: Faulty URLs - help needed #general

Stephen Landau <stephen.landau@...>
 

When trying to access a complex URL that references subdirectories within
subdirectories, it is sometimes the case that typing errors are introduced
somewhere along the line. In addition, Webmasters sometimes rename or move
subdirectories around thereby changing the referenced URL.

One strategy to deal with these potential problems is to begin at the
right-most directory of the URL and by eliminating directories (moving to
the left) try to access other parts of the Web site you're trying to reach.
You may not get to the right page, but often using hyperlinks on the page
you do get to, you might be able eventually to get to the specific page you
want.

In the first URL you have a problem with, since the site is in Poland, the
correct country reference is "pl" not "pll"; in addition, the remainder of
the URL (using a process of elimination) is also not currently accurate for
some reason I haven't determined. If you access this URL
http://www.awf.wroc.pl/ you'll get to the homepage of the site you want.
Hunt around there for the specific page you need---but recognize it might
not be there any more.

I'm not sure what the problem is with the second URL you cannot access.

Stephen Landau
White Plains, NY
http://home.att.net/~stephen.landau


martin b mannlein wrote in message ...

I recently tried to access several web sites that fellow Jewish Genners
cited.
In the first case, www.awf.wroc.pll/~romek/hobby/cmen.htm
In the 2nd case, www.wu-wien-ac.at/groups/ukraine_hp/pics/ukrmap.jpg


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Faulty URLs - help needed #general

Stephen Landau <stephen.landau@...>
 

When trying to access a complex URL that references subdirectories within
subdirectories, it is sometimes the case that typing errors are introduced
somewhere along the line. In addition, Webmasters sometimes rename or move
subdirectories around thereby changing the referenced URL.

One strategy to deal with these potential problems is to begin at the
right-most directory of the URL and by eliminating directories (moving to
the left) try to access other parts of the Web site you're trying to reach.
You may not get to the right page, but often using hyperlinks on the page
you do get to, you might be able eventually to get to the specific page you
want.

In the first URL you have a problem with, since the site is in Poland, the
correct country reference is "pl" not "pll"; in addition, the remainder of
the URL (using a process of elimination) is also not currently accurate for
some reason I haven't determined. If you access this URL
http://www.awf.wroc.pl/ you'll get to the homepage of the site you want.
Hunt around there for the specific page you need---but recognize it might
not be there any more.

I'm not sure what the problem is with the second URL you cannot access.

Stephen Landau
White Plains, NY
http://home.att.net/~stephen.landau


martin b mannlein wrote in message ...

I recently tried to access several web sites that fellow Jewish Genners
cited.
In the first case, www.awf.wroc.pll/~romek/hobby/cmen.htm
In the 2nd case, www.wu-wien-ac.at/groups/ukraine_hp/pics/ukrmap.jpg


Searching: Karl BARTFELD (Germany to US, 1906) #general

martin b mannlein <matthewm@...>
 

Seeking information on a Karl BARTFELD, who emigrated to the US from
Germany in 1906. He was an actor in the Yiddish theater in NY.

He may have used the name Charles Bartfeld.

He had a daughter, Evelyn Bartfeld, who married a MANNHEIM.
They may have gone to California.

Does this ring someone's chimes?

Barbara Mannlein
Chicago, IL


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: Karl BARTFELD (Germany to US, 1906) #general

martin b mannlein <matthewm@...>
 

Seeking information on a Karl BARTFELD, who emigrated to the US from
Germany in 1906. He was an actor in the Yiddish theater in NY.

He may have used the name Charles Bartfeld.

He had a daughter, Evelyn Bartfeld, who married a MANNHEIM.
They may have gone to California.

Does this ring someone's chimes?

Barbara Mannlein
Chicago, IL


Re: Search for Hawaiian- Jewish Death Notice #general

Steven Chall <steven.chall@...>
 

Where can I look up a death notice or obituary in Hawaii (probably
Honolulu) ?
The date is unknown but is definitely between 1982 and 1991 and the man
was
a US citizen, with a Social Security No., also unknown. Abe Nutkis

Abe,

Have you tried the SSDI using the person's name? If a common name,
include "died in Hawaii". This may help you zero in on the date AND
provide his SS#.

Steven Chall in Minneapolis, MN


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Search for Hawaiian- Jewish Death Notice #general

Steven Chall <steven.chall@...>
 

Where can I look up a death notice or obituary in Hawaii (probably
Honolulu) ?
The date is unknown but is definitely between 1982 and 1991 and the man
was
a US citizen, with a Social Security No., also unknown. Abe Nutkis

Abe,

Have you tried the SSDI using the person's name? If a common name,
include "died in Hawaii". This may help you zero in on the date AND
provide his SS#.

Steven Chall in Minneapolis, MN