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Lithuania #general

Eve Line Blum <blume@...>
 

I'm very interested in Lithuania's history for personal reasons.

Barry Mann wrote in Litvaksig Digest, Tue, 23 Dec 1997:
We spent nearly 4 hours touring the 9th Fort, looking at the exhibits, and
meeting with the museum director of the Fort. In 1984, the Soviets built
a monument near the Fort in memory of the Soviet soldiers killed during
WW2. I took lots of pictures and really enjoyed hearing all the history
about the fort.
It's amazing to read that: the monument wasn't built by the Soviets in
memory of the Soviet soldiers killed during WW2. Near to it is a large
plaque made of grey marble, with Lithuanian and Russian inscriptions in
memory of "Lithuanian victims", dated 1984, as the monument. In 1991, at
last, because of the 50th anniversary of the Shoah, a text in English,
Hebrew and Yiddish was added. At last, the word "Jew" could appear on an
official monument. In fact, the people who died in the Ninth Fort were
Jews, mostly Lithuanians, but >from other countries too, including
most of the 878 Jews deported >from France who arrived there in May 1944, as
written on another plaque which was brought there by Serge Klarsfeld in
1993.

The truth is that 70 000 Jews were shot and burnt in that area.

Did the guide and the Museum Director at the Ninth Fort forget to tell that
? In my opinion, History mustn't be distorted in such a manner.

Many Jewishgenners dealing with genealogy, who are researching their
relatives in that area, must know that story.

'IN VILNIUS, THE FIRST TRIAL OF A BALTIC NAZI WAR CRIMINAL' is an article
that was published in the French newspaper "Le Monde", last
10 September 1998. I obtained the authorization to publish it, and
I have translated it for the non French-speaking Jewishgenners.
Please e-mail me directly to obtain the article in French and/or English.

Eve Line Blum
nee Cherchevsky
Besancon (France)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Lithuania #general

Eve Line Blum <blume@...>
 

I'm very interested in Lithuania's history for personal reasons.

Barry Mann wrote in Litvaksig Digest, Tue, 23 Dec 1997:
We spent nearly 4 hours touring the 9th Fort, looking at the exhibits, and
meeting with the museum director of the Fort. In 1984, the Soviets built
a monument near the Fort in memory of the Soviet soldiers killed during
WW2. I took lots of pictures and really enjoyed hearing all the history
about the fort.
It's amazing to read that: the monument wasn't built by the Soviets in
memory of the Soviet soldiers killed during WW2. Near to it is a large
plaque made of grey marble, with Lithuanian and Russian inscriptions in
memory of "Lithuanian victims", dated 1984, as the monument. In 1991, at
last, because of the 50th anniversary of the Shoah, a text in English,
Hebrew and Yiddish was added. At last, the word "Jew" could appear on an
official monument. In fact, the people who died in the Ninth Fort were
Jews, mostly Lithuanians, but >from other countries too, including
most of the 878 Jews deported >from France who arrived there in May 1944, as
written on another plaque which was brought there by Serge Klarsfeld in
1993.

The truth is that 70 000 Jews were shot and burnt in that area.

Did the guide and the Museum Director at the Ninth Fort forget to tell that
? In my opinion, History mustn't be distorted in such a manner.

Many Jewishgenners dealing with genealogy, who are researching their
relatives in that area, must know that story.

'IN VILNIUS, THE FIRST TRIAL OF A BALTIC NAZI WAR CRIMINAL' is an article
that was published in the French newspaper "Le Monde", last
10 September 1998. I obtained the authorization to publish it, and
I have translated it for the non French-speaking Jewishgenners.
Please e-mail me directly to obtain the article in French and/or English.

Eve Line Blum
nee Cherchevsky
Besancon (France)


Searching LUBASH, Austria to NY, 1880-1890's #general

A. E. Jordan
 

I know this is an extreme long shot but it seems that the family name might be
somewhat unusual. Does anyone have the name LUBASH in their family tree?
Mine comes >from Austria to the United Staes in the 1880s or 1890s and marries
into the JOSEPH family. The LUBASH family lived in New York/New Jersey. I
think I have several brothers (Aaron and Soloman at least) who if my hunch is
correct are brothers to my ggm Rae Lubash Joseph. >from what I can see in the
cenus the Lubash families have six or eight children so I am wondering if
anyone is around today?

Any LUBASHers out there?

Thanks,
Allan Jordan


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching LUBASH, Austria to NY, 1880-1890's #general

A. E. Jordan
 

I know this is an extreme long shot but it seems that the family name might be
somewhat unusual. Does anyone have the name LUBASH in their family tree?
Mine comes >from Austria to the United Staes in the 1880s or 1890s and marries
into the JOSEPH family. The LUBASH family lived in New York/New Jersey. I
think I have several brothers (Aaron and Soloman at least) who if my hunch is
correct are brothers to my ggm Rae Lubash Joseph. >from what I can see in the
cenus the Lubash families have six or eight children so I am wondering if
anyone is around today?

Any LUBASHers out there?

Thanks,
Allan Jordan


On-line maps #general

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dear all,

One of the most common requests on this list refers to finding a particular
town where ancestors of the inquirer used to live. In such cases, it is
amazing that the tremendous potential of Internet searching is either
unknown or not used. What follows gives you a brief methodology of
geographical search on the Web, which I hope will be useful.

First at all there is JewishGen's ShtetlSeeker:
http://www1.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm

This database is HUGE and most of the time I was able to find the town
searched, even small villages are stored there. So try it first.

Also, the beauty of ShtetlSeeker is that once one has found a specific
place, the person can immediately link to the corresponding MAP, a service
delivered by MapQuest's Interactive Atlas.

You can use MapQuest's online search of maps at this URL:
http://www.mapquest.com/cgi-bin/ia_find?screen=mqhome&link=ia_find&code_mode=cod
e_classic&uid=105a5k80e0aycst&no_map=true&banner=select&random=863

The nice thing about this resource is that you can enter a town and country
names (or only a town name), even a zip code (in the US only). It will then
try to find that specific place. Since MapQuest's search engine *is not*
phonetic, provided the exact spelling has been entered, it will produce one
or several answers, one of which may just be the place you are looking for.
If it can't find the place it will depict the requested country.

If you wish to buy a map, MapQuest of course has an online map store:
http://www.mapstore.com/mqms/index.asp?
where you can search for the specific map you wish to buy...
Mind you, I am *not getting* any commission >from MapQuest ;)

For maps and place searches in the USA try Pathfinder's map finder search
engine:
http://www.pathfinder.com/travel/maps/search.html

If you are traveling to Israel, looking for a particular street, here is a
site which features the country in digital format allowing online search
and printing of street maps:
http://www.yellowpages.co.il/GUI/dapaz_new/sh_E/info/emapinfo.html
According to the site's owner (Israeli Yellow Pages), there are 90,000 maps
in this database. Wooow!

Now here is the challenge: try to figure out how this system works. Believe
me, only the Jewish hochma could conceive such an intricate scheme :)))

But the BEST website (IMHO) to find a geographic place, the smallest
imaginable hamlet or even a geographic incident, is Microsoft's Expedia
Maps online:
http://www.expediamaps.com/results.asp?Place=

After the equal sign write the name of the place you are searching and be
marveled by the feats of technology. This search engine will usually
deliver *dozens* of answers, sorted in phonetical order, indicating the
country and county in which the town name can be found, of course its
correct spelling too.

Click on the link which is closest to your search and a **beautiful and
printable** map will be shown, indicating the general area in which this
particular place is located. You can zoom in and out and move along 8 axis
directions. It will not sing, but the remainder of tricks is *astonishing*.
99% of the time *I found* what I was looking for.

Good hunt, be well and in Peace
Tom Venetianer


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen On-line maps #general

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dear all,

One of the most common requests on this list refers to finding a particular
town where ancestors of the inquirer used to live. In such cases, it is
amazing that the tremendous potential of Internet searching is either
unknown or not used. What follows gives you a brief methodology of
geographical search on the Web, which I hope will be useful.

First at all there is JewishGen's ShtetlSeeker:
http://www1.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm

This database is HUGE and most of the time I was able to find the town
searched, even small villages are stored there. So try it first.

Also, the beauty of ShtetlSeeker is that once one has found a specific
place, the person can immediately link to the corresponding MAP, a service
delivered by MapQuest's Interactive Atlas.

You can use MapQuest's online search of maps at this URL:
http://www.mapquest.com/cgi-bin/ia_find?screen=mqhome&link=ia_find&code_mode=cod
e_classic&uid=105a5k80e0aycst&no_map=true&banner=select&random=863

The nice thing about this resource is that you can enter a town and country
names (or only a town name), even a zip code (in the US only). It will then
try to find that specific place. Since MapQuest's search engine *is not*
phonetic, provided the exact spelling has been entered, it will produce one
or several answers, one of which may just be the place you are looking for.
If it can't find the place it will depict the requested country.

If you wish to buy a map, MapQuest of course has an online map store:
http://www.mapstore.com/mqms/index.asp?
where you can search for the specific map you wish to buy...
Mind you, I am *not getting* any commission >from MapQuest ;)

For maps and place searches in the USA try Pathfinder's map finder search
engine:
http://www.pathfinder.com/travel/maps/search.html

If you are traveling to Israel, looking for a particular street, here is a
site which features the country in digital format allowing online search
and printing of street maps:
http://www.yellowpages.co.il/GUI/dapaz_new/sh_E/info/emapinfo.html
According to the site's owner (Israeli Yellow Pages), there are 90,000 maps
in this database. Wooow!

Now here is the challenge: try to figure out how this system works. Believe
me, only the Jewish hochma could conceive such an intricate scheme :)))

But the BEST website (IMHO) to find a geographic place, the smallest
imaginable hamlet or even a geographic incident, is Microsoft's Expedia
Maps online:
http://www.expediamaps.com/results.asp?Place=

After the equal sign write the name of the place you are searching and be
marveled by the feats of technology. This search engine will usually
deliver *dozens* of answers, sorted in phonetical order, indicating the
country and county in which the town name can be found, of course its
correct spelling too.

Click on the link which is closest to your search and a **beautiful and
printable** map will be shown, indicating the general area in which this
particular place is located. You can zoom in and out and move along 8 axis
directions. It will not sing, but the remainder of tricks is *astonishing*.
99% of the time *I found* what I was looking for.

Good hunt, be well and in Peace
Tom Venetianer


Gortinsky: Thank you #general

Helene Kenvin <HKENVIN/0005734940@...>
 

My apologies for failing to respond to those jewishgenners
who were kind enough to respond to my request for information
on the surname Gortinsky. I do appreciate your help and did
not have the opportunity to tell you so because we had a
death in the family.
Shanah tovah, Helene Kenvin


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Gortinsky: Thank you #general

Helene Kenvin <HKENVIN/0005734940@...>
 

My apologies for failing to respond to those jewishgenners
who were kind enough to respond to my request for information
on the surname Gortinsky. I do appreciate your help and did
not have the opportunity to tell you so because we had a
death in the family.
Shanah tovah, Helene Kenvin


Re: Belzec concentration camp and Sniatyn Jews #general

Barbara and Marty Yeager <Barbara-and-Marty@...>
 

Apparently, there was an article about Belzec published recently by the
Jerusalem Post.

Among other things, the article talks about the unprecedented archeological
excavations that are presently taking place at Belzec. There were no
crematoria at Belzec, corpses were dumped into ditches that became their
graves. Despite German efforts to destroy traces of their crimes as the end of

the war was approaching, "evidence still lies buried just below the surface",
the article says. Historian Michael Tegenza estimates that approximately 5,000
unburned corpses still remain buried at Belzec.

Under agreement between the Polish government and the US Holocaust Museum in
Washington, a new memorial will be erected at Belzec next year. The new memorial
will replace the existing one, erected during Communist era.

You can also read more about Belzec on the following websites:

http://cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9807/19/poland.camp/
http://ftp.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/aktion.reinhard/belzec/press
http://ftp.nizkor.org/faqs/reinhard/
http://www1.us.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/israeli/yad-vashem/yvs16-06.html


Barbara Yeager

Dr. Susan Kulick wrote: <<snip, snip>>
Has anyone else tried to access data >from Belzec? <<snip, snip>>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Belzec concentration camp and Sniatyn Jews #general

Barbara and Marty Yeager <Barbara-and-Marty@...>
 

Apparently, there was an article about Belzec published recently by the
Jerusalem Post.

Among other things, the article talks about the unprecedented archeological
excavations that are presently taking place at Belzec. There were no
crematoria at Belzec, corpses were dumped into ditches that became their
graves. Despite German efforts to destroy traces of their crimes as the end of

the war was approaching, "evidence still lies buried just below the surface",
the article says. Historian Michael Tegenza estimates that approximately 5,000
unburned corpses still remain buried at Belzec.

Under agreement between the Polish government and the US Holocaust Museum in
Washington, a new memorial will be erected at Belzec next year. The new memorial
will replace the existing one, erected during Communist era.

You can also read more about Belzec on the following websites:

http://cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9807/19/poland.camp/
http://ftp.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/aktion.reinhard/belzec/press
http://ftp.nizkor.org/faqs/reinhard/
http://www1.us.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/israeli/yad-vashem/yvs16-06.html


Barbara Yeager

Dr. Susan Kulick wrote: <<snip, snip>>
Has anyone else tried to access data >from Belzec? <<snip, snip>>


E-mail to Hector MONDRIK bounces #general

Elsebeth Paikin
 

I hope someone - perhaps Hector Mondrik himself? - can help me with
the e-mail address of Hector Mondrik, Argentina.

I have had some correspondence with him a few months back, but when I
now write to his e-mail address, it bounces.

Thank you in advance.
Elsebeth Paikin


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen E-mail to Hector MONDRIK bounces #general

Elsebeth Paikin
 

I hope someone - perhaps Hector Mondrik himself? - can help me with
the e-mail address of Hector Mondrik, Argentina.

I have had some correspondence with him a few months back, but when I
now write to his e-mail address, it bounces.

Thank you in advance.
Elsebeth Paikin


Passenger List Index Card that is different #general

NormK12065
 

JGen'rs

I found an index card for a possible relative. Instead of one of the regular
formats it has the name, 29M followed by CR#56343.

Can anyone tell me what the CR number means and how I cross reference it. I
could not find any information in the FAQs.

Thanks

Norm Katz


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Passenger List Index Card that is different #general

NormK12065
 

JGen'rs

I found an index card for a possible relative. Instead of one of the regular
formats it has the name, 29M followed by CR#56343.

Can anyone tell me what the CR number means and how I cross reference it. I
could not find any information in the FAQs.

Thanks

Norm Katz


How might this phonetic surname have been spelled in Lyakhovichi? #general

Risa E Heywood <risah@...>
 

I have always suspected that my FEDER family's name had been changed. I
recently received two birth certificates >from London, circa 1900, where the
surname was phonetically spelled VEDUKE and WIDYOU. Originally, I had heard
that the name was FEDYUK. These three names could all be the same if
pronounced with a Yiddish accent to an English speaking clerk. How might
the name have been spelled in the Pale?

I am seeking a couple of real possibilities to use when looking at records.
I understand that spelling was really irrelevant, but need a starting off
point. The Daitch-Mokotoff Soundex gives about a 100 possibilities.

Thank you,

Risa Heywood
Colorado


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen How might this phonetic surname have been spelled in Lyakhovichi? #general

Risa E Heywood <risah@...>
 

I have always suspected that my FEDER family's name had been changed. I
recently received two birth certificates >from London, circa 1900, where the
surname was phonetically spelled VEDUKE and WIDYOU. Originally, I had heard
that the name was FEDYUK. These three names could all be the same if
pronounced with a Yiddish accent to an English speaking clerk. How might
the name have been spelled in the Pale?

I am seeking a couple of real possibilities to use when looking at records.
I understand that spelling was really irrelevant, but need a starting off
point. The Daitch-Mokotoff Soundex gives about a 100 possibilities.

Thank you,

Risa Heywood
Colorado


Plzen, Lodz, Kharkiv research #general

Julian H. Preisler <julianp@...>
 

Dear JewishGeners:

Does anyone with connections to the following towns have modern
picture-postcards >from these places.

1. Plzen, Czech Republic
2. Lodz, Poland
3. Kharkiv, Ukraine
4. Dereczyn, Belorus

I have sent several letters to town halls, hotels etc. trying to obtain
new current-day postcards and have not had any luck.

If you have postcards, I would like to hear >from anyone who would be
willing to make color xerox copies or perhaps someone who has duplicate
postcards. I would also be willing to xerox the cards and then return
them.

I am not looking for antique postcards.

Happy New Year 5759 to all.

Julian H. Preisler
Wilmington, Delaware


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Plzen, Lodz, Kharkiv research #general

Julian H. Preisler <julianp@...>
 

Dear JewishGeners:

Does anyone with connections to the following towns have modern
picture-postcards >from these places.

1. Plzen, Czech Republic
2. Lodz, Poland
3. Kharkiv, Ukraine
4. Dereczyn, Belorus

I have sent several letters to town halls, hotels etc. trying to obtain
new current-day postcards and have not had any luck.

If you have postcards, I would like to hear >from anyone who would be
willing to make color xerox copies or perhaps someone who has duplicate
postcards. I would also be willing to xerox the cards and then return
them.

I am not looking for antique postcards.

Happy New Year 5759 to all.

Julian H. Preisler
Wilmington, Delaware


Polish Research Without Surnames #general

COL HARRY E STEIN <YTPT23A@...>
 

I have have traced my family (BROCHSZTAJN) back to about 1800 in
Ostrowiec Swietokrzyski, Kielce, Poland. If memory serves me
correctly this is about the time of the Austrian partition, and the
introduction of surnames. I am under the impression that the capital
of this area under Austria became Kracow, and vital records may be
stored there. I have had a great deal of success using the USCs for
records less than 100 years old, and the Polish archive system for
records older than 100 years. But having apparently run out of
surnames and moving >from Polish, German, and Russian jurisdiction to
Austrian jurisdiction, my efforts have come to a halt. I would
appreciate if some one can assist me in crossing this abyss.

Harry Stein

L'shana tova


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Polish Research Without Surnames #general

COL HARRY E STEIN <YTPT23A@...>
 

I have have traced my family (BROCHSZTAJN) back to about 1800 in
Ostrowiec Swietokrzyski, Kielce, Poland. If memory serves me
correctly this is about the time of the Austrian partition, and the
introduction of surnames. I am under the impression that the capital
of this area under Austria became Kracow, and vital records may be
stored there. I have had a great deal of success using the USCs for
records less than 100 years old, and the Polish archive system for
records older than 100 years. But having apparently run out of
surnames and moving >from Polish, German, and Russian jurisdiction to
Austrian jurisdiction, my efforts have come to a halt. I would
appreciate if some one can assist me in crossing this abyss.

Harry Stein

L'shana tova