Date   

Louis Schonfeld e-mail address #general

Louis Schonfeld <lmagyar@...>
 

For those of you who have been trying to reach me by e-mail if you used
lmagyar@en.com you might have guessed the first letter to be a "one" or
capital "eye" . So I use the address Lmagyar@en.com it works just as well
and the first letter is obviously an "el". Thank you,

Louis Schonfeld


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Louis Schonfeld e-mail address #general

Louis Schonfeld <lmagyar@...>
 

For those of you who have been trying to reach me by e-mail if you used
lmagyar@en.com you might have guessed the first letter to be a "one" or
capital "eye" . So I use the address Lmagyar@en.com it works just as well
and the first letter is obviously an "el". Thank you,

Louis Schonfeld


Grodno Yeshiva and Haftorah Reading #general

Jose Gutstein <jmg-miami@...>
 

My family found a letter written in May/1939 by my father's then 12-year-old
cousin Ephraim GUTSZTEJN to his aunt who was already living in Israel. The
letter was sent >from Grodno Yeshiva, where young Ephraim had already been
studying for a year away >from home and was now preparing for his upcoming
Bar Mitzvah. Ephraim's family was living in Sokolka, Poland at the time, and
his extended family in Radzilow, Poland.

It is quite a moving letter, where the young, but mature boy (who obviously
grew up way before his time due to the world going on around him) predicted
in ominous tones exactly what was to come. He indicated a desire to continue
his religious studies beyond his 13th year, even as he wrote quite
eloquently and with religious references, about the bleak future that was
facing the Jews. No one knows if he ever celebrated his Bar Mitzvah, but we
do know that Ephraim did not survive, nor did any of his 4 siblings or his
parents.

My questions are these:

1) Does anyone know when Grodno Yeshiva was shut down and if that happened
before the Germans advanced on Grodno? Or was the Yeshiva still active and
its students were rounded up >from there? I'm trying to figure out the time
line, if it's likely that young Ephraim made it back to Sokolka and was
killed there, or if it was more likely he was killed or led out to the camps
directly >from Grodno Yeshiva.

2) He writes that his 13th year would be on "Shabbat Nachamu." Does anyone
know what part of the year that Haftorah reading refers to?

Thank you,

Jose Gutstein
JMG-Miami@msn.com


WOLK/VOLK of Kovna Giberna #general

KKirshner@...
 

I have just discovered the connection between the WOLK/VOLK family line in
connection to my grandmother's rabbinical HaCohen FRANK-BARON of Kovna Giberna
line today and hope this new information will lead to connections with other
Jewishgenners with WOLK/VOLK family.

My Great Great Grandparents were Raycha (WOLK) and Rabbi (I don't know first
name) FRANK. (Raycha would have been born ca. 1840-50. Their daughter Chana
Zeeza (FRANK), a famous talmudic scholar and rabbi's teacher in Kovna Giberna,
married Rabbi Schlomo Meier BARON, a teacher of Talmud Torah in Kovna Giberna.
(They would have been born ca.1860-70). They lived in Vilki/Vilkiji when my
grandmother RUCHEL ("RACHEL") was born in 1890 and their other daughter GITEL
was born. Rabbi Schlomo Meier BARON died in his 30's-early 40's of a heart
attack and Gitel was sent to live with one of his wealthy landowner BARON
brothers. She married a SEGEL/SIGEL lumber/tree inspector, etc....

Rachel (BARON) KIRSNER/KIRSHNER had close WOLK/VOLK cousins who lived in
Brooklyn, NY. She was living in Philadelphia with a BARON uncle and Frank
relatives lived in PA. She settled in Altoona, PA and later the Bronx and
information about the WOLK/VOLK relatives died along the way.

Does anyone have this WOLK/VOLK family connection >from Lithuania? Does anyone
have rabbinical lists of any sort that would help in finding out the name of
My Great Great Grandmother's father and her FRANK husband's first name?
Please contact: Karen via KKirshner@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Grodno Yeshiva and Haftorah Reading #general

Jose Gutstein <jmg-miami@...>
 

My family found a letter written in May/1939 by my father's then 12-year-old
cousin Ephraim GUTSZTEJN to his aunt who was already living in Israel. The
letter was sent >from Grodno Yeshiva, where young Ephraim had already been
studying for a year away >from home and was now preparing for his upcoming
Bar Mitzvah. Ephraim's family was living in Sokolka, Poland at the time, and
his extended family in Radzilow, Poland.

It is quite a moving letter, where the young, but mature boy (who obviously
grew up way before his time due to the world going on around him) predicted
in ominous tones exactly what was to come. He indicated a desire to continue
his religious studies beyond his 13th year, even as he wrote quite
eloquently and with religious references, about the bleak future that was
facing the Jews. No one knows if he ever celebrated his Bar Mitzvah, but we
do know that Ephraim did not survive, nor did any of his 4 siblings or his
parents.

My questions are these:

1) Does anyone know when Grodno Yeshiva was shut down and if that happened
before the Germans advanced on Grodno? Or was the Yeshiva still active and
its students were rounded up >from there? I'm trying to figure out the time
line, if it's likely that young Ephraim made it back to Sokolka and was
killed there, or if it was more likely he was killed or led out to the camps
directly >from Grodno Yeshiva.

2) He writes that his 13th year would be on "Shabbat Nachamu." Does anyone
know what part of the year that Haftorah reading refers to?

Thank you,

Jose Gutstein
JMG-Miami@msn.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen WOLK/VOLK of Kovna Giberna #general

KKirshner@...
 

I have just discovered the connection between the WOLK/VOLK family line in
connection to my grandmother's rabbinical HaCohen FRANK-BARON of Kovna Giberna
line today and hope this new information will lead to connections with other
Jewishgenners with WOLK/VOLK family.

My Great Great Grandparents were Raycha (WOLK) and Rabbi (I don't know first
name) FRANK. (Raycha would have been born ca. 1840-50. Their daughter Chana
Zeeza (FRANK), a famous talmudic scholar and rabbi's teacher in Kovna Giberna,
married Rabbi Schlomo Meier BARON, a teacher of Talmud Torah in Kovna Giberna.
(They would have been born ca.1860-70). They lived in Vilki/Vilkiji when my
grandmother RUCHEL ("RACHEL") was born in 1890 and their other daughter GITEL
was born. Rabbi Schlomo Meier BARON died in his 30's-early 40's of a heart
attack and Gitel was sent to live with one of his wealthy landowner BARON
brothers. She married a SEGEL/SIGEL lumber/tree inspector, etc....

Rachel (BARON) KIRSNER/KIRSHNER had close WOLK/VOLK cousins who lived in
Brooklyn, NY. She was living in Philadelphia with a BARON uncle and Frank
relatives lived in PA. She settled in Altoona, PA and later the Bronx and
information about the WOLK/VOLK relatives died along the way.

Does anyone have this WOLK/VOLK family connection >from Lithuania? Does anyone
have rabbinical lists of any sort that would help in finding out the name of
My Great Great Grandmother's father and her FRANK husband's first name?
Please contact: Karen via KKirshner@aol.com


Re: the name Miriam/Magdalena #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 98-10-01 23:31:50 EDT, mkearns@u.washington.edu writes:

<< Magdalena . . . >>
==The name Mary Magdelena in the New Testament is derived >from the Hebrew name
Miriam, bat Migdal. She came >from the town of Migdal (Majdal) on the West
shore of the Sea of Galilee. I have never heard of a Jewish woman known as
Magdalena, but I have heard of Jewish women in Europe called Magda which, I
assume (purely a guess) is short for Magdalena, and (again a guess) Madeleine
is probably also a corruption of Magdalena, but is not totally unknown among
Jews.

==Only among Christians would there be any association between Magdalena and
any of the derivatives of Miriam such as Mary, Maria.

Michael Bernet
*****************************
seeking:

BERNET, BERNAT, BAERNET etc >from Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg, (Bavaria)
KONIGSHOFER: Welbhausen, Konigshofen, Furth (S. Germany)
ALTMANN: Kattowitz, Breslau, Poznan, Beuthen--Upper Silesia/Poland
WOLF(F): Frankfurt, Wurzburg, Furth, Yugoslavia, Westchester
WOLF, Sali & Rachel, Rotterdam, murdered by Dr. Petiot, Paris ca 1942
WEIL[L], Albert, Fr. hon. consul in Nurnberg; returned to France 1936/7.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: the name Miriam/Magdalena #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 98-10-01 23:31:50 EDT, mkearns@u.washington.edu writes:

<< Magdalena . . . >>
==The name Mary Magdelena in the New Testament is derived >from the Hebrew name
Miriam, bat Migdal. She came >from the town of Migdal (Majdal) on the West
shore of the Sea of Galilee. I have never heard of a Jewish woman known as
Magdalena, but I have heard of Jewish women in Europe called Magda which, I
assume (purely a guess) is short for Magdalena, and (again a guess) Madeleine
is probably also a corruption of Magdalena, but is not totally unknown among
Jews.

==Only among Christians would there be any association between Magdalena and
any of the derivatives of Miriam such as Mary, Maria.

Michael Bernet
*****************************
seeking:

BERNET, BERNAT, BAERNET etc >from Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg, (Bavaria)
KONIGSHOFER: Welbhausen, Konigshofen, Furth (S. Germany)
ALTMANN: Kattowitz, Breslau, Poznan, Beuthen--Upper Silesia/Poland
WOLF(F): Frankfurt, Wurzburg, Furth, Yugoslavia, Westchester
WOLF, Sali & Rachel, Rotterdam, murdered by Dr. Petiot, Paris ca 1942
WEIL[L], Albert, Fr. hon. consul in Nurnberg; returned to France 1936/7.


* mea culpa (was: Re: Equivalents to names) #general

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dear all,

I own apologies to Prof. Judith Romney Wegner. In a previous mail I said
that James and Jacob are not the same name, challenging what she wrote in a
previous mail. Prof Wegner was of course right, as James is indeed rooted
in the Latin name Iacobus, which stems >from Yaakov in Hebrew. Therefor my
sentence should have read something like "James and Jacob are two different
names in Spanish, Portuguese and Italian". Sorry for the flaw, I really
lack the erudition on names etymology, being just an amateur researcher.

regards
Tom


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen * mea culpa (was: Re: Equivalents to names) #general

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dear all,

I own apologies to Prof. Judith Romney Wegner. In a previous mail I said
that James and Jacob are not the same name, challenging what she wrote in a
previous mail. Prof Wegner was of course right, as James is indeed rooted
in the Latin name Iacobus, which stems >from Yaakov in Hebrew. Therefor my
sentence should have read something like "James and Jacob are two different
names in Spanish, Portuguese and Italian". Sorry for the flaw, I really
lack the erudition on names etymology, being just an amateur researcher.

regards
Tom


Re: SEIDENBERG Date #general

JoanSGross@...
 

I just received an inquiry >from "FredHalf@alumni.stanfoed.org" about my
Seidenberg Family research. I reponded to his inquiry by clicking the "reply"
button but my response was bounced back. Fred, if you're reading this get in
touch with me or if you know who "FredHalf" is, tell him I have information
for him.

Joan S. Gross

joansgross@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: SEIDENBERG Date #general

JoanSGross@...
 

I just received an inquiry >from "FredHalf@alumni.stanfoed.org" about my
Seidenberg Family research. I reponded to his inquiry by clicking the "reply"
button but my response was bounced back. Fred, if you're reading this get in
touch with me or if you know who "FredHalf" is, tell him I have information
for him.

Joan S. Gross

joansgross@aol.com


Rheim Anshe Hurdock #general

Sherribob@...
 

Can anyone comment on the landsmanshaftn named Rheim Anshe Hurdock? Meaning
"friends of the people of Hurdock".

The family that belonged to this society is supposed to be >from Bialystok, but
I have been unable to document that due to the surname being changed more than
once, and the fact that they were early immigrants.

Thank you for any information on this society, or information on a town known
as Hurdock.

Sherri Bobish


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rheim Anshe Hurdock #general

Sherribob@...
 

Can anyone comment on the landsmanshaftn named Rheim Anshe Hurdock? Meaning
"friends of the people of Hurdock".

The family that belonged to this society is supposed to be >from Bialystok, but
I have been unable to document that due to the surname being changed more than
once, and the fact that they were early immigrants.

Thank you for any information on this society, or information on a town known
as Hurdock.

Sherri Bobish


GERSHONOVITZ, Feygel and family #general

KKirshner@...
 

A dear long-time family friend and neighbor just opened up to me a little bit
about her Greenberg-Sleyzing (Germany) Concentration Camp experience and the
long death march she took and escaped >from as a teen. She was >from Southern
Poland at the time of WWII and her mother's maiden name (and her name in the
camp) was GERSHONOVITZ, even though her true maiden name was ROSENBERG. Upon
surviving the war, she desperately tried to find her maternal aunt Feygel
GERSHONOVITZ who was living in England and who was married with two daughters.
She did not remember or know her aunt's married name and could not find her.
She wants to know what ever became of her and her first cousins. She is now
an elderly woman and this has been something she's wanted to know since the
war. Does anyone have the name in their family or on a list they've seen or
can offer advice since not having the married name of this aunt is a major
handicap (as it was at the end of WWII). --Please contact for Evelyn: Karen
KKirshner@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen GERSHONOVITZ, Feygel and family #general

KKirshner@...
 

A dear long-time family friend and neighbor just opened up to me a little bit
about her Greenberg-Sleyzing (Germany) Concentration Camp experience and the
long death march she took and escaped >from as a teen. She was >from Southern
Poland at the time of WWII and her mother's maiden name (and her name in the
camp) was GERSHONOVITZ, even though her true maiden name was ROSENBERG. Upon
surviving the war, she desperately tried to find her maternal aunt Feygel
GERSHONOVITZ who was living in England and who was married with two daughters.
She did not remember or know her aunt's married name and could not find her.
She wants to know what ever became of her and her first cousins. She is now
an elderly woman and this has been something she's wanted to know since the
war. Does anyone have the name in their family or on a list they've seen or
can offer advice since not having the married name of this aunt is a major
handicap (as it was at the end of WWII). --Please contact for Evelyn: Karen
KKirshner@aol.com


an Odessa shtetl group? #general

SBSeales
 

I am posting this for a fellow researcher who is interested in starting an
Odessa shtetl group, but who would want someone other that herself to be the
coordinator.
Anyone interested should contact Mona Panitz at mgpanitz@juno.com.
Sue Seales


ZERMAN Delayed Birth Certificates & 1905 NJ Census #general

Judith27
 

Dear JewishGendom,
I had read about delayed birth records, but this week I had my own
initial first-hand experience with actually seeing and using such a document.
Moreover, I received in the same mail not one, but *two* records both marked
"a true photostatic reproduction >from a microfilm image of the original
record."
These Certificates of Delayed Report of Birth were for members of the
ZERMAN / SHERMAN family which had lived in Trenton, NJ, and Atlanta, GA, circa
1905-1910. (I am researching this ZERMAN /SHERMAN family because it appears
their family surname was changed >from SURINAMER, and I am assiduously
endeavoring to attach them to my main ancestral line....)
It certainly was very helpful to receive these delayed birth
certificates. Not only did the documents list a date of birth as well as the
full name of both the father and mother, but these records also revealed the
very evidence the individual applicants had cited as proof of birth: their
respective listings on the 1905 New Jersey state census!
So, naturally, now I know I need to obtain a copy of the ZERMAN family
listing at 89 Union Street, Trenton, on the 1905 State Census.
If anyone out there has ready access to the 1905 NJ State Census, and is
familiar with using it, I would appreciate hearing >from you. I would be happy
to reciprocate with research on Long Island or in NYC.
Happy Sukkot with all its Sukkah-hopping and Lulav-waving to all!
Shalom,
Judi Langer-Surnamer Caplan <Judith27@aol.com>
Long Beach, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen an Odessa shtetl group? #general

SBSeales
 

I am posting this for a fellow researcher who is interested in starting an
Odessa shtetl group, but who would want someone other that herself to be the
coordinator.
Anyone interested should contact Mona Panitz at mgpanitz@juno.com.
Sue Seales


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ZERMAN Delayed Birth Certificates & 1905 NJ Census #general

Judith27
 

Dear JewishGendom,
I had read about delayed birth records, but this week I had my own
initial first-hand experience with actually seeing and using such a document.
Moreover, I received in the same mail not one, but *two* records both marked
"a true photostatic reproduction >from a microfilm image of the original
record."
These Certificates of Delayed Report of Birth were for members of the
ZERMAN / SHERMAN family which had lived in Trenton, NJ, and Atlanta, GA, circa
1905-1910. (I am researching this ZERMAN /SHERMAN family because it appears
their family surname was changed >from SURINAMER, and I am assiduously
endeavoring to attach them to my main ancestral line....)
It certainly was very helpful to receive these delayed birth
certificates. Not only did the documents list a date of birth as well as the
full name of both the father and mother, but these records also revealed the
very evidence the individual applicants had cited as proof of birth: their
respective listings on the 1905 New Jersey state census!
So, naturally, now I know I need to obtain a copy of the ZERMAN family
listing at 89 Union Street, Trenton, on the 1905 State Census.
If anyone out there has ready access to the 1905 NJ State Census, and is
familiar with using it, I would appreciate hearing >from you. I would be happy
to reciprocate with research on Long Island or in NYC.
Happy Sukkot with all its Sukkah-hopping and Lulav-waving to all!
Shalom,
Judi Langer-Surnamer Caplan <Judith27@aol.com>
Long Beach, NY