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Thank you #general

Foodphile@...
 

I would like to say thank you to everyone who responded to my request for help
on Naturalizations. I very much appreciate the time you spent.

Meryl Persky
Calabasas, Ca.
Searching:
DUNITZ (DUNETZ) Kovel, Russia, SALTZMAN Kovel, Russia, KETCHMAN Russia
KELLNER Oustra-Polia, SUBMAN Oustra-Polia, HIRSCH (HIRSH) Grybow, Poland
LEDER (LEDERER) Ryglic, Galicia, GOLD Galicia, SPERBER Galicia, SHEIER Galicia


Re: LDS film numbers for Slovakia #general

Tim Baker <tbaker@...>
 

Has anybody seen or is in the possession of a complete listing of LDS
films numbers covering towns/villages in Slovakia?
Hopefully people are aware that--at least on the microfiche
listings-- many towns in present-day Slovakia are found under
the country listing of Hungary.

Tim Baker
Bellingham WA
tbaker@simonlaw.com


Commercial genealogy offers #general

gen@...
 

Although Michael Bernet asked for a private response to his
below inquiry, I'm addressing it to the group because I too
have seen wonderful offers:

========================================

Has anyone used "FAMILY BASE COMPUTER ARCHIVING & SCRAPBOOKING
SOFTWARE"?

=======================================

I have used some products and have found them useful but
on a limited basis. Many of the family trees shown are 95% of
gentile families but occasionally one can be of great help.

Broderbund's World Family tree saved me hours of work by giving
me a distant cousin's tree that I uploaded into my program. At
the time I didn't know the cousin and a copy via Gedcom was not
therefore possible.

Recently I received a long list of Broderbund CD disks covering
everything >from State census to birth, death & marriage
records, Civil War etc. Other than the war records, each
edition was for part of a state, a full state or a group of
states.

Unless one's research is very regional, this type of thing is
not for everyone, but using such methods and lists can be a
short cut to the arduous time searching the records directly.
The problem is the cost to individual members.

Licensing restrictions stop a Society or a large group >from
buying these without proper authorization. Please understand
that I'm not suggesting illegal methods but an item can
sometimes be purchased in one person's name and then shared by
interested parties (except when specifically outlawed by the
licensing agreement). Many licensing agreements allow for
sharing of data as long as only one family controls the
physical disk. However this type must always be done privately.

If any other member would be also interested in, legally,
looking into these possible search mediums, please contact me
privately.

Best regards,

Steve Cohen


PS: I am researching the following families:


BAUM Germany:Bosen; EISENKRAMER & LEFEVRE Germany:Rhineland Palatine, BASIST/BASSIST/BAKSZT/BAKECH: Belarus:Lida District;
COHEN formerly SHEINHOUSE: Belarus:Radoshkovichi, Molodechno; BIRNBAUM, GOLDBERG, LEINKRAM Poland: Krakow; GELLER:Poland: Mielec; KREINDLER: Poland: ALL; LEINKRAM:Ireland & England; SCHNEPS/SHNEPS:Poland: Debica
formerly Dembitz & Tarnow
--------------------------------------------------


Re: Purim 1847 #general

Dolores Palomo <palomo@...>
 

Can someone give me the dates of Purim in 1847 CE? This may help me
in pinpointing my ggfather's birthday.
Thanks.

Dolores Palomo
Seattle


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Thank you #general

Foodphile@...
 

I would like to say thank you to everyone who responded to my request for help
on Naturalizations. I very much appreciate the time you spent.

Meryl Persky
Calabasas, Ca.
Searching:
DUNITZ (DUNETZ) Kovel, Russia, SALTZMAN Kovel, Russia, KETCHMAN Russia
KELLNER Oustra-Polia, SUBMAN Oustra-Polia, HIRSCH (HIRSH) Grybow, Poland
LEDER (LEDERER) Ryglic, Galicia, GOLD Galicia, SPERBER Galicia, SHEIER Galicia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: LDS film numbers for Slovakia #general

Tim Baker <tbaker@...>
 

Has anybody seen or is in the possession of a complete listing of LDS
films numbers covering towns/villages in Slovakia?
Hopefully people are aware that--at least on the microfiche
listings-- many towns in present-day Slovakia are found under
the country listing of Hungary.

Tim Baker
Bellingham WA
tbaker@simonlaw.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Commercial genealogy offers #general

gen@...
 

Although Michael Bernet asked for a private response to his
below inquiry, I'm addressing it to the group because I too
have seen wonderful offers:

========================================

Has anyone used "FAMILY BASE COMPUTER ARCHIVING & SCRAPBOOKING
SOFTWARE"?

=======================================

I have used some products and have found them useful but
on a limited basis. Many of the family trees shown are 95% of
gentile families but occasionally one can be of great help.

Broderbund's World Family tree saved me hours of work by giving
me a distant cousin's tree that I uploaded into my program. At
the time I didn't know the cousin and a copy via Gedcom was not
therefore possible.

Recently I received a long list of Broderbund CD disks covering
everything >from State census to birth, death & marriage
records, Civil War etc. Other than the war records, each
edition was for part of a state, a full state or a group of
states.

Unless one's research is very regional, this type of thing is
not for everyone, but using such methods and lists can be a
short cut to the arduous time searching the records directly.
The problem is the cost to individual members.

Licensing restrictions stop a Society or a large group >from
buying these without proper authorization. Please understand
that I'm not suggesting illegal methods but an item can
sometimes be purchased in one person's name and then shared by
interested parties (except when specifically outlawed by the
licensing agreement). Many licensing agreements allow for
sharing of data as long as only one family controls the
physical disk. However this type must always be done privately.

If any other member would be also interested in, legally,
looking into these possible search mediums, please contact me
privately.

Best regards,

Steve Cohen


PS: I am researching the following families:


BAUM Germany:Bosen; EISENKRAMER & LEFEVRE Germany:Rhineland Palatine, BASIST/BASSIST/BAKSZT/BAKECH: Belarus:Lida District;
COHEN formerly SHEINHOUSE: Belarus:Radoshkovichi, Molodechno; BIRNBAUM, GOLDBERG, LEINKRAM Poland: Krakow; GELLER:Poland: Mielec; KREINDLER: Poland: ALL; LEINKRAM:Ireland & England; SCHNEPS/SHNEPS:Poland: Debica
formerly Dembitz & Tarnow
--------------------------------------------------


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Purim 1847 #general

Dolores Palomo <palomo@...>
 

Can someone give me the dates of Purim in 1847 CE? This may help me
in pinpointing my ggfather's birthday.
Thanks.

Dolores Palomo
Seattle


Tremestroff? #general

Lee Gagnet Leumas <lgl001@...>
 

Does anyone know where Tremestroff (or possibly Hemestroff) is? In the
marriage of Elias LEAMUS to Fleurette JOSEPH (Hellimer, Moselle, France
civil records) of May 30, 1825, David LEAMUS is living in Tremestroff.
David married Rachel VORMS (WORMS) in Hellimer on September 5, 1821.
Elias and David were sons of Joseph SAMUEL and Sara DAVID.

Thanks for all your help,

Lee Leumas
Baton Rouge, Louisiana


Re: beadle #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 98-10-13 18:05:42 EDT, nick@n-landau.demon.co.uk writes:

<< Michael Bernet propounds that the shamass is an exalted >>


Exalted! I said that? Must have fallen on my head.

Michael Bernet, New York


Hirsch and Suessel in family patterns in So Germany #general

MBernet@...
 

I had an unexpected communication >from a French (Alsatian--non-Jewish) contact

<<Until the beginn of the 19th century, an analog tradition is related for
Jewish families in wich most of the boys were named Suesslein/Suessel,
or Hirsch, often both. >>

My earliest known ancestor (forgetting Adam and Eve<g>) was Suessel (ben)
Hirsch of Frensdorf, Bavaria (near Bamberg), born ca 1645. Suessel's children
all were known by their patronymic, Suesslein. Hirsch is assumed not to have
been born in Frensdorf but to have migrated there >from further west.

My follow-up enquiry brought me:

<<About the Hirsch and Suesslein families, I have very little details. I
hold my information >from my notes about my conversations many years ago
with my Jewish friend G. Rueff. He was very religious and has been until
his dead, my referent by questions belonging to the history of our
Jewish Alsacians. In the Hirsch and Suesslein context, he spoke from
Weissenburg,
Heilbronn and Frankfurt/Main, but not >from Bavaria (or I have it not
recorded and cannot remember...).>>

I have never heard of this Hirsch-Suessel connection. All three cities
mentioned by Rueff, were within the region in which my family dwelled, married
into, or moved to (Weissenburg actually is in Bavaria--not too far from
Nurnberg where I was born).

Does anyone have a Hirsch-Suessel pattern in his/her family? Is that really a
common pattern (I'd never heard of it)? Does anyone know more about G. Rueff
(he used to be a radio ham--that's about all I know), where he lived etc.?

Thanks for all advice or suggestions.

Michael Bernet
*****************************
seeking:

BERNET, BERNAT, BAERNET etc >from Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg, (Bavaria)
KONIGSHOFER: Welbhausen, Konigshofen, Furth (S. Germany)
ALTMANN: Kattowitz, Breslau, Poznan, Beuthen--Upper Silesia/Poland
WOLF(F): Frankfurt, Wurzburg, Furth, Yugoslavia, Westchester


SEGALL #general

PRES LOIS M FRIEDMAN <ZDJJ37A@...>
 

I am seeking information on the SEGALL family that immigrated to
France >from Romania around the
early 1900's. I do know that one grandchild was Jacques VODES a
furrier in the 1950's. I really could
use any and all help on this.

Lois Segall Friedman
zdjj37a@prodigy.com


Re: Genealogy of famous people #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 98-10-13 18:05:05 EDT, womoshe@internet-zahav.net writes:

<< The MAHARAM >from Padowa (R Meir Katsenelboigen) >>

I've always wondered where that Katz. . . name came from; it means Cat's
elbow in both German and Yiddish!

Michael Bernet
*****************************
seeking:

BERNET, BERNAT, BAERNET etc >from Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg, (Bavaria)
KONIGSHOFER: Welbhausen, Konigshofen, Furth (S. Germany)
WOLF, Sali & Rachel, Rotterdam, murdered by Dr. Petiot, Paris ca 1942
WEIL[L], Albert, Fr. hon. consul in Nurnberg; returned to France 1936/7.


Neolog Jew #general

Dr. Edward Stern <estern@...>
 

I have been advised that a Hungarian relative, last name GROSSMAN, from
Ungvar, was a Neolog Jew. Likewise, I was advised that there was a
Neolog temple in Ungvar. What does the term Neolog Jew refer to?

Edward Stern
Grand Rapids, MI


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Tremestroff? #general

Lee Gagnet Leumas <lgl001@...>
 

Does anyone know where Tremestroff (or possibly Hemestroff) is? In the
marriage of Elias LEAMUS to Fleurette JOSEPH (Hellimer, Moselle, France
civil records) of May 30, 1825, David LEAMUS is living in Tremestroff.
David married Rachel VORMS (WORMS) in Hellimer on September 5, 1821.
Elias and David were sons of Joseph SAMUEL and Sara DAVID.

Thanks for all your help,

Lee Leumas
Baton Rouge, Louisiana


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: beadle #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 98-10-13 18:05:42 EDT, nick@n-landau.demon.co.uk writes:

<< Michael Bernet propounds that the shamass is an exalted >>


Exalted! I said that? Must have fallen on my head.

Michael Bernet, New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Hirsch and Suessel in family patterns in So Germany #general

MBernet@...
 

I had an unexpected communication >from a French (Alsatian--non-Jewish) contact

<<Until the beginn of the 19th century, an analog tradition is related for
Jewish families in wich most of the boys were named Suesslein/Suessel,
or Hirsch, often both. >>

My earliest known ancestor (forgetting Adam and Eve<g>) was Suessel (ben)
Hirsch of Frensdorf, Bavaria (near Bamberg), born ca 1645. Suessel's children
all were known by their patronymic, Suesslein. Hirsch is assumed not to have
been born in Frensdorf but to have migrated there >from further west.

My follow-up enquiry brought me:

<<About the Hirsch and Suesslein families, I have very little details. I
hold my information >from my notes about my conversations many years ago
with my Jewish friend G. Rueff. He was very religious and has been until
his dead, my referent by questions belonging to the history of our
Jewish Alsacians. In the Hirsch and Suesslein context, he spoke from
Weissenburg,
Heilbronn and Frankfurt/Main, but not >from Bavaria (or I have it not
recorded and cannot remember...).>>

I have never heard of this Hirsch-Suessel connection. All three cities
mentioned by Rueff, were within the region in which my family dwelled, married
into, or moved to (Weissenburg actually is in Bavaria--not too far from
Nurnberg where I was born).

Does anyone have a Hirsch-Suessel pattern in his/her family? Is that really a
common pattern (I'd never heard of it)? Does anyone know more about G. Rueff
(he used to be a radio ham--that's about all I know), where he lived etc.?

Thanks for all advice or suggestions.

Michael Bernet
*****************************
seeking:

BERNET, BERNAT, BAERNET etc >from Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg, (Bavaria)
KONIGSHOFER: Welbhausen, Konigshofen, Furth (S. Germany)
ALTMANN: Kattowitz, Breslau, Poznan, Beuthen--Upper Silesia/Poland
WOLF(F): Frankfurt, Wurzburg, Furth, Yugoslavia, Westchester


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen SEGALL #general

PRES LOIS M FRIEDMAN <ZDJJ37A@...>
 

I am seeking information on the SEGALL family that immigrated to
France >from Romania around the
early 1900's. I do know that one grandchild was Jacques VODES a
furrier in the 1950's. I really could
use any and all help on this.

Lois Segall Friedman
zdjj37a@prodigy.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Genealogy of famous people #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 98-10-13 18:05:05 EDT, womoshe@internet-zahav.net writes:

<< The MAHARAM >from Padowa (R Meir Katsenelboigen) >>

I've always wondered where that Katz. . . name came from; it means Cat's
elbow in both German and Yiddish!

Michael Bernet
*****************************
seeking:

BERNET, BERNAT, BAERNET etc >from Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg, (Bavaria)
KONIGSHOFER: Welbhausen, Konigshofen, Furth (S. Germany)
WOLF, Sali & Rachel, Rotterdam, murdered by Dr. Petiot, Paris ca 1942
WEIL[L], Albert, Fr. hon. consul in Nurnberg; returned to France 1936/7.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Neolog Jew #general

Dr. Edward Stern <estern@...>
 

I have been advised that a Hungarian relative, last name GROSSMAN, from
Ungvar, was a Neolog Jew. Likewise, I was advised that there was a
Neolog temple in Ungvar. What does the term Neolog Jew refer to?

Edward Stern
Grand Rapids, MI