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Rabbis Samuel and Moise PICK - Mulhausen - 1785 #germany

ljrooschul <ljrooschul@...>
 

Does somebody know about rabbis Samuel et Moïse PICK
of Mulhausen, died before or circa 1785 ?

many thanks in advance, yours, Eliane Roos, Paris, France <ljrooschul@...>


Re: Menachem/Mendl/Emanuel #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 2/6/2006 12:09:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
simon@... writes:

An ancestor of mine was
"Menachem Arje" in Hebrew (as far as I know, just "Leo(n)" in day to day
use). Would this be a good reason to suspect that an elder brother, his
father or uncle (or ...) died shortly before he was born (or, that he
was born close to tisha b'av)? Or was Menachem often given as a name for
other reasons too?
==Coincidence! My gggf was Menachem Arje (surnamed Koenigshoefer) of
Welbhausen, b. Ermreuth 1806, d Fuerth 1884. His civil name was Emanuel Loeb.An
ancestor of yours?

==To answer your question, Menachem is also passed on in the usual way, >from
a departed ancestor, relative, friend or rabbi, just like any other name.
In faact, my Menachem Arje.was named after his grandfather.

Michael Bernet, New York


German SIG #Germany Rabbis Samuel and Moise PICK - Mulhausen - 1785 #germany

ljrooschul <ljrooschul@...>
 

Does somebody know about rabbis Samuel et Moïse PICK
of Mulhausen, died before or circa 1785 ?

many thanks in advance, yours, Eliane Roos, Paris, France <ljrooschul@...>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Menachem/Mendl/Emanuel #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 2/6/2006 12:09:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
simon@... writes:

An ancestor of mine was
"Menachem Arje" in Hebrew (as far as I know, just "Leo(n)" in day to day
use). Would this be a good reason to suspect that an elder brother, his
father or uncle (or ...) died shortly before he was born (or, that he
was born close to tisha b'av)? Or was Menachem often given as a name for
other reasons too?
==Coincidence! My gggf was Menachem Arje (surnamed Koenigshoefer) of
Welbhausen, b. Ermreuth 1806, d Fuerth 1884. His civil name was Emanuel Loeb.An
ancestor of yours?

==To answer your question, Menachem is also passed on in the usual way, >from
a departed ancestor, relative, friend or rabbi, just like any other name.
In faact, my Menachem Arje.was named after his grandfather.

Michael Bernet, New York


Re: Seek 1909 Reference Book on Jews from Posen #germany

Geoff Kaiser <geoff_kaiser@...>
 

Fellow researchers,
I recieved >from a reply >from Stephen Falk regarding
this book. I think many people will be interested to know that the book can be
downloaded >from the Internet.
It is very large so you will need a good fast interent connection. You would
also need to download some free software to read the files. Contact me directly
for further details.

Good luck, Regards Geoff Kaiser Melbourne

I have just recently been advised of a excellent book on the Jews of
Posen. "Aus Vergangenheit und Gegenwart der Juden und Jud. Gemeinden in den
Posener Landen" is the title of the book published in 1909 by Dr. A. Heppner and
J Herzberg. It has a chapter on each of about 100 Posen Jewish communities.
14 pages on Ostrowo, 3 pages on Unruhstadt, etc. It's loaded with names and lists.
I have had difficulty locating this book. Is there some one out that has
a copy or access to one ?


German SIG #Germany Re: Seek 1909 Reference Book on Jews from Posen #germany

Geoff Kaiser <geoff_kaiser@...>
 

Fellow researchers,
I recieved >from a reply >from Stephen Falk regarding
this book. I think many people will be interested to know that the book can be
downloaded >from the Internet.
It is very large so you will need a good fast interent connection. You would
also need to download some free software to read the files. Contact me directly
for further details.

Good luck, Regards Geoff Kaiser Melbourne

I have just recently been advised of a excellent book on the Jews of
Posen. "Aus Vergangenheit und Gegenwart der Juden und Jud. Gemeinden in den
Posener Landen" is the title of the book published in 1909 by Dr. A. Heppner and
J Herzberg. It has a chapter on each of about 100 Posen Jewish communities.
14 pages on Ostrowo, 3 pages on Unruhstadt, etc. It's loaded with names and lists.
I have had difficulty locating this book. Is there some one out that has
a copy or access to one ?


Writing to the JewishGen Discussion Group ( JGDG ) #germany

Ramayrassoc@...
 

How do I get an inquiry on the daily Jewishgen Digest? Thanks.

Richard A Mayer ramayrassoc@...

The JewishGen Discussion Group (JGDG) is a list similar to the GerSIG
Forum except that it covers Jewish Genealogy in general - not only families from
Germany. The archives of the JGDG are separate >from the SIG list archives.

For details please consult extensive information available
at the JewishGen website starting with:

http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen/DiscussionGroup.htm

Like the GerSIG Forum, you can subscribe to the JGDG in four modes:
Digest or Index or Mail or "no mail". It is misleading to think of
the "JewishGen Digest" as a list. The name of the list is "JewishGen Discussion
Group". "The JewishGen Digest" or "The GerSIG Digest" describes one
email that a subscriber would receive >from the listserver if he were
a list subscriber in the "Digest" format. John Paul Lowens, GerSIG Moderator


German SIG #Germany Writing to the JewishGen Discussion Group ( JGDG ) #germany

Ramayrassoc@...
 

How do I get an inquiry on the daily Jewishgen Digest? Thanks.

Richard A Mayer ramayrassoc@...

The JewishGen Discussion Group (JGDG) is a list similar to the GerSIG
Forum except that it covers Jewish Genealogy in general - not only families from
Germany. The archives of the JGDG are separate >from the SIG list archives.

For details please consult extensive information available
at the JewishGen website starting with:

http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen/DiscussionGroup.htm

Like the GerSIG Forum, you can subscribe to the JGDG in four modes:
Digest or Index or Mail or "no mail". It is misleading to think of
the "JewishGen Digest" as a list. The name of the list is "JewishGen Discussion
Group". "The JewishGen Digest" or "The GerSIG Digest" describes one
email that a subscriber would receive >from the listserver if he were
a list subscriber in the "Digest" format. John Paul Lowens, GerSIG Moderator


International Institute for Jewish Genealogy Opens in Jerusalem #germany

Gary Mokotoff- <mokotoff@...>
 

The International Institute for Jewish Genealogy and Paul Jacobi Center
opened this week. Located at the Jewish National and University Library at
Givat Ram, Jerusalem, the new Institute, a non-profit organization, has two
main aims: (1) to engage in Jewish genealogical research and teaching at the
university level and (2) to make Jewish Genealogy a recognized academic
discipline within the realm of Jewish Studies.

The Institute is the only one of its kind in the Jewish world. It plans to
operate on an interdisciplinary basis and also in a collaborative way with
organizations engaged in aspects of Jewish genealogy. It will put a premium
on innovative programs and projects of practical benefit to individual
family historians.

Its establishment is the result of efforts over the last two years of an
international Founding Committee, headed by Sallyann Sack, of Washington,
DC. and Yosef Lamdan of Israel. Lamdan, a former Israeli ambassador to the
Vatican, has been appointed as Director of the Institute.

One of its first projects is an academic symposium to be held in Jerusalem
in September with a view to setting research and teaching priorities for the
new Institute. Experts >from the academic and genealogical world will be
presenting papers.

Its e-mail address is: info@....

Gary Mokotoff Member of Founding Committee <mokotoff@...>


German SIG #Germany International Institute for Jewish Genealogy Opens in Jerusalem #germany

Gary Mokotoff- <mokotoff@...>
 

The International Institute for Jewish Genealogy and Paul Jacobi Center
opened this week. Located at the Jewish National and University Library at
Givat Ram, Jerusalem, the new Institute, a non-profit organization, has two
main aims: (1) to engage in Jewish genealogical research and teaching at the
university level and (2) to make Jewish Genealogy a recognized academic
discipline within the realm of Jewish Studies.

The Institute is the only one of its kind in the Jewish world. It plans to
operate on an interdisciplinary basis and also in a collaborative way with
organizations engaged in aspects of Jewish genealogy. It will put a premium
on innovative programs and projects of practical benefit to individual
family historians.

Its establishment is the result of efforts over the last two years of an
international Founding Committee, headed by Sallyann Sack, of Washington,
DC. and Yosef Lamdan of Israel. Lamdan, a former Israeli ambassador to the
Vatican, has been appointed as Director of the Institute.

One of its first projects is an academic symposium to be held in Jerusalem
in September with a view to setting research and teaching priorities for the
new Institute. Experts >from the academic and genealogical world will be
presenting papers.

Its e-mail address is: info@....

Gary Mokotoff Member of Founding Committee <mokotoff@...>


Jewish Genealogy Institute #austria-czech

peter bakos <pgbakos@...>
 

How nice there will be a special academic effort in Jewish Genealogy. Of
course the Mormons pioneered this area at Brigham Young University, but not
specifically for Jewish research.

So my point is, unless there is something done to get archives opened to the
public - and to academics - and unless something is done about the 100 year
rule (including for deaths) which exists is many countries, all the
academics in the world will be unable to do anything to increase knowledge
and understanding of Jewish families. For example, the Czech archives will
not give me information about a marriage of two persons murdered in the
camps because it would violate their privacy! So I must wait until I am 90
to look at a marriage record of a murdered cousin.

Peter Bakos
Sarasota, Florida (For now)


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Jewish Genealogy Institute #austria-czech

peter bakos <pgbakos@...>
 

How nice there will be a special academic effort in Jewish Genealogy. Of
course the Mormons pioneered this area at Brigham Young University, but not
specifically for Jewish research.

So my point is, unless there is something done to get archives opened to the
public - and to academics - and unless something is done about the 100 year
rule (including for deaths) which exists is many countries, all the
academics in the world will be unable to do anything to increase knowledge
and understanding of Jewish families. For example, the Czech archives will
not give me information about a marriage of two persons murdered in the
camps because it would violate their privacy! So I must wait until I am 90
to look at a marriage record of a murdered cousin.

Peter Bakos
Sarasota, Florida (For now)


Dupuytren's Contracture - Scandinavian ancestry of German Jews ? #germany

CHARLES SONNEBORN <rcsonne@...>
 

I have researched and published my Sonneborn and Behrend German genealogies
back into the early 1700s. Recently , I was diagnosed with Dupuytren's, a
condition that affects the connective tissue that lies beneath the skin in
the palm of the hand, etc. (not serious). My physician (and confirmed on
the Internet) said this means that somewhere in my past -- e.g., heretitary
-- "I have Viking roots!" I said sure, northern Germany. "No," said he,
"Viking, as in Scandinavia."
Anyone heard of such a possibility that 1700 German families could have
emigrated >from that part of the world and, if so, has anyone traced their
roots further back to that locale, and how?

Charles Behrend Sonneborn Bethesda, MD <rcsonne@...>

MOD NOTE: You probably should send this also the the DNA SIG and possibly also
to the Scandinavian SIG or else privately to that SIG's leader who is also
a GerSIG member.


German SIG #Germany Dupuytren's Contracture - Scandinavian ancestry of German Jews ? #germany

CHARLES SONNEBORN <rcsonne@...>
 

I have researched and published my Sonneborn and Behrend German genealogies
back into the early 1700s. Recently , I was diagnosed with Dupuytren's, a
condition that affects the connective tissue that lies beneath the skin in
the palm of the hand, etc. (not serious). My physician (and confirmed on
the Internet) said this means that somewhere in my past -- e.g., heretitary
-- "I have Viking roots!" I said sure, northern Germany. "No," said he,
"Viking, as in Scandinavia."
Anyone heard of such a possibility that 1700 German families could have
emigrated >from that part of the world and, if so, has anyone traced their
roots further back to that locale, and how?

Charles Behrend Sonneborn Bethesda, MD <rcsonne@...>

MOD NOTE: You probably should send this also the the DNA SIG and possibly also
to the Scandinavian SIG or else privately to that SIG's leader who is also
a GerSIG member.


Re. von der PORTEN, Hamburg #germany

HHHeilbut@...
 

Forum, Irene Newhouse wrote about the Hamburg families FUERST and
von der PORTEN. I have looked up in the Grunwald book about the
cemetaries Altona, Hamburg, Wandsbek and I have sent some brief
citations to Ms. Newhouse by private email.

The first entrance for the whole family is the above mentioned
Frau Hendel born Joseph Wing.
--------------
The first entrance for the first KNORR/von der PORTEN family is
the year 1666.
In the BAMBERGER book about the Wandsbek cemetary the first entrance
is 22 February 1691 for Mirjam KNORR.
----
I have noticed data >from the KNORR/von der PORTEN family during my
research in the Staatsarchiv in Hamburg, whenever I found information.
Because there were many marriages between HEILBUT/von der PORTEN.

Helga HEILBUT, Bergisch Gladbach, Deutschland <HHHeilbut@...>


German SIG #Germany Re. von der PORTEN, Hamburg #germany

HHHeilbut@...
 

Forum, Irene Newhouse wrote about the Hamburg families FUERST and
von der PORTEN. I have looked up in the Grunwald book about the
cemetaries Altona, Hamburg, Wandsbek and I have sent some brief
citations to Ms. Newhouse by private email.

The first entrance for the whole family is the above mentioned
Frau Hendel born Joseph Wing.
--------------
The first entrance for the first KNORR/von der PORTEN family is
the year 1666.
In the BAMBERGER book about the Wandsbek cemetary the first entrance
is 22 February 1691 for Mirjam KNORR.
----
I have noticed data >from the KNORR/von der PORTEN family during my
research in the Staatsarchiv in Hamburg, whenever I found information.
Because there were many marriages between HEILBUT/von der PORTEN.

Helga HEILBUT, Bergisch Gladbach, Deutschland <HHHeilbut@...>


Re: Seeking LAGOWITZ -- minor correction #germany

Ralph B. Hirsch <hirsch@...>
 

Please correct a typographic error in my message of a few minutes ago.
Its first line should read,

G. Zetzel wrote on 4 Feb 2006, [not: 2005] Sorry!

Ralph B. Hirsch, Celle, Germany


German SIG #Germany Re: Seeking LAGOWITZ -- minor correction #germany

Ralph B. Hirsch <hirsch@...>
 

Please correct a typographic error in my message of a few minutes ago.
Its first line should read,

G. Zetzel wrote on 4 Feb 2006, [not: 2005] Sorry!

Ralph B. Hirsch, Celle, Germany


Re: Seeking LAGOWITZ #germany

Ralph B. Hirsch <hirsch@...>
 

G. Zetzel wrote on 4 Feb 2005,

"My GGF Joseph LAGOWITZ, "mosaisch", is listed as having been
"Rittergutsbesitzer". Dictionary translation is "Lord of the manor."
How likely does this seem for late 19th C. Saxony? "

The translation Zetzel found is misleading, as it implies a social role.
In fact the term "Rittergutsbesitzer" denotes only a property status,
namely that of owner of an estate.

Ralph B. Hirsch, Celle (Lower Saxony), Germany <hirsch@...>


German SIG #Germany Re: Seeking LAGOWITZ #germany

Ralph B. Hirsch <hirsch@...>
 

G. Zetzel wrote on 4 Feb 2005,

"My GGF Joseph LAGOWITZ, "mosaisch", is listed as having been
"Rittergutsbesitzer". Dictionary translation is "Lord of the manor."
How likely does this seem for late 19th C. Saxony? "

The translation Zetzel found is misleading, as it implies a social role.
In fact the term "Rittergutsbesitzer" denotes only a property status,
namely that of owner of an estate.

Ralph B. Hirsch, Celle (Lower Saxony), Germany <hirsch@...>