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Re: Secret Codes in the NYC Death Indices #general

JJG613 <jjg613@...>
 

I haven't been down to Chambers Street in quite some time, but I've
encountered those codes before myself. I'm fairly certain that a death
record should be on hand for him for him at the City Archives. I could be
wrong, but for some reason I remember having success on-site with a similar
situation.

If not, you should be able to get the information you need to acquire the
record >from the State Archives.

Good luck,


Jonathan Goldmacher
JRI-Poland Project
Project Coordinator
PRZASNYSZ Shtetl CO-OP
New York, NY

Searching: GOLDMACHER, GOLDMAN, MAK, MALOWANCZYK >from Poland (Przasnysz,
Pultusk, Ciechanow, Nasielsk, Neistud, Mlawa, Sierpc, Serock, Warsaw)


Re: Age discrepancy #general

Anita Berk <anitab@...>
 

My parents intentionally LIED about their ages. They told me there were
age quotas, so they just became the right age!

My mother made herself 9 years younger, and my father made himself 3
years younger. They came in 1937 and 1939.)

Anita Berk


Various documents indicate an discrepancy for my grandparents. I know
that this is not unusual. There is an age discrepancy of 6 years for my
grandparents between their age on the NJ Census and their ship arrivals .
They both had the same age discrepancy even though they entered the
country at different times. I have reason to believe that the census age
is correct even though the ship arrival age shows them both to be 6 years
younger. Is there any reason that immigrants would lower their actual age
on the ship manifest?
Anita Berk
anitab@starmail.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Secret Codes in the NYC Death Indices #general

JJG613 <jjg613@...>
 

I haven't been down to Chambers Street in quite some time, but I've
encountered those codes before myself. I'm fairly certain that a death
record should be on hand for him for him at the City Archives. I could be
wrong, but for some reason I remember having success on-site with a similar
situation.

If not, you should be able to get the information you need to acquire the
record >from the State Archives.

Good luck,


Jonathan Goldmacher
JRI-Poland Project
Project Coordinator
PRZASNYSZ Shtetl CO-OP
New York, NY

Searching: GOLDMACHER, GOLDMAN, MAK, MALOWANCZYK >from Poland (Przasnysz,
Pultusk, Ciechanow, Nasielsk, Neistud, Mlawa, Sierpc, Serock, Warsaw)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Age discrepancy #general

Anita Berk <anitab@...>
 

My parents intentionally LIED about their ages. They told me there were
age quotas, so they just became the right age!

My mother made herself 9 years younger, and my father made himself 3
years younger. They came in 1937 and 1939.)

Anita Berk


Various documents indicate an discrepancy for my grandparents. I know
that this is not unusual. There is an age discrepancy of 6 years for my
grandparents between their age on the NJ Census and their ship arrivals .
They both had the same age discrepancy even though they entered the
country at different times. I have reason to believe that the census age
is correct even though the ship arrival age shows them both to be 6 years
younger. Is there any reason that immigrants would lower their actual age
on the ship manifest?
Anita Berk
anitab@starmail.com


Research on name-switching #general

Eli Kintisch <eli.kintisch@...>
 

Hello. I am a college student doing research on yiddish-speaking jews who,
after coming to the united states, changed their names to Hebrew names,
and in a variety of ways (translation, transliteration, zionist new name).

Are there any books (in english) that look at this specifically? Any books
on zionism that look closely at this?

Eli Kintisch


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Research on name-switching #general

Eli Kintisch <eli.kintisch@...>
 

Hello. I am a college student doing research on yiddish-speaking jews who,
after coming to the united states, changed their names to Hebrew names,
and in a variety of ways (translation, transliteration, zionist new name).

Are there any books (in english) that look at this specifically? Any books
on zionism that look closely at this?

Eli Kintisch


Re: synagogue marriages in England #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 98-11-11 07:05:41 EST, nick@n-landau.demon.co.uk writes:

<< I have experienced the reverse case where a couple were married in a
registry office and then subsequently they were given a quiet religious
service. They might not have been at all religious at the time or one
partner might have been converted.

On both occasions, as a teenager, I was asked to come quietly to the
rabbi's house to form a minyan for the ceremony. It was made clear that we
should keep quiet about this. >>

I don't see the logic in keeping quiet, if there was already a civil
marriage. Could it have been a union that was not legal, e.g. between
uncle and niece, or a partner who had a get but not a divorce (divorces
were VERY hard to get in the old days), or with an illegal immigrant?

Michael Bernet


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: synagogue marriages in England #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 98-11-11 07:05:41 EST, nick@n-landau.demon.co.uk writes:

<< I have experienced the reverse case where a couple were married in a
registry office and then subsequently they were given a quiet religious
service. They might not have been at all religious at the time or one
partner might have been converted.

On both occasions, as a teenager, I was asked to come quietly to the
rabbi's house to form a minyan for the ceremony. It was made clear that we
should keep quiet about this. >>

I don't see the logic in keeping quiet, if there was already a civil
marriage. Could it have been a union that was not legal, e.g. between
uncle and niece, or a partner who had a get but not a divorce (divorces
were VERY hard to get in the old days), or with an illegal immigrant?

Michael Bernet


Antwerp/Harwich/Liverpool #general

Paul Fisher <fisherpaul@...>
 

Help. My grandma always told me she came to America in 1906 via Bremen
and Liverpool. I just found out she went through Antwerp and Harwich to
Liverpool.

Her sister died on the boat. I have the American manifest and she wasn't
listed. And no deaths were recorded when passengers were toted up. Does
anyone know of archives in Antwerp or Harwich that might record deaths
at sea? or tell me her age? I do know her name.

Did grandma take the train >from Bremen to Antwerp? or was Antwerp just a
stop between Bremen and Harwich and she would have stayed on the ship?

What I do know: Bremen has no departure records, the PRO in Kew has no
records of deaths at sea. I wrote and asked, "only British Nationals".
She is not listed on the British manifest either.

Thanks in advance.

Paul Fisher
Atlanta, Georgia

Searching BROUDE (Kelme, Lithuania) and Minneapolis, Philadelphia
KAPLAN (Kelme, Lithuania) and Minneapolis
FLEISHER (Kelme, Lithuania)
GRABINA (Wyszkow, Poland)
ZIMNOWODZ (Warsaw and Wyszkow, Poland)
SHARE, SCHEAR (Tolstoye, Ukraine) formerly Touste, Austria


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Antwerp/Harwich/Liverpool #general

Paul Fisher <fisherpaul@...>
 

Help. My grandma always told me she came to America in 1906 via Bremen
and Liverpool. I just found out she went through Antwerp and Harwich to
Liverpool.

Her sister died on the boat. I have the American manifest and she wasn't
listed. And no deaths were recorded when passengers were toted up. Does
anyone know of archives in Antwerp or Harwich that might record deaths
at sea? or tell me her age? I do know her name.

Did grandma take the train >from Bremen to Antwerp? or was Antwerp just a
stop between Bremen and Harwich and she would have stayed on the ship?

What I do know: Bremen has no departure records, the PRO in Kew has no
records of deaths at sea. I wrote and asked, "only British Nationals".
She is not listed on the British manifest either.

Thanks in advance.

Paul Fisher
Atlanta, Georgia

Searching BROUDE (Kelme, Lithuania) and Minneapolis, Philadelphia
KAPLAN (Kelme, Lithuania) and Minneapolis
FLEISHER (Kelme, Lithuania)
GRABINA (Wyszkow, Poland)
ZIMNOWODZ (Warsaw and Wyszkow, Poland)
SHARE, SCHEAR (Tolstoye, Ukraine) formerly Touste, Austria


Re: Baron de Hirsh settlement #general

DAVID ROSEN <72426.1553@...>
 

Ron Feldman <medserve@shaw.wave.ca> wrote:
Subject: Baron de Hirsh settlement
....... I would like to know if anyone knows where to find the records of
Baron de Hirsh, immigration etc.
Baron de Hirsh records are held by the American Jewish Historical Society,
2 Thornton Rd., Waltham MA. See their web page at
<http://www.ajhs.org>

David Rosen
Boston, MA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: Baron de Hirsh settlement #general

DAVID ROSEN <72426.1553@...>
 

Ron Feldman <medserve@shaw.wave.ca> wrote:
Subject: Baron de Hirsh settlement
....... I would like to know if anyone knows where to find the records of
Baron de Hirsh, immigration etc.
Baron de Hirsh records are held by the American Jewish Historical Society,
2 Thornton Rd., Waltham MA. See their web page at
<http://www.ajhs.org>

David Rosen
Boston, MA


Re: What does given name "Lerle" translate to? #general

ddworski@...
 

Ronald D. Doctor wrote:

I have run across an entry in one of Glazier's books for a man named
Lerle DUBINSKI. Almost all the details in the entry for Lerle and his
family match those of my great-grandfather and his family. However, my
ggf was known as Louis. Does "Lerle" translate to "Louis"? If not, what
would it translate to?

Ron Doctor
rondoctor@cis.com

mailto:rondoctor@CSI.COM
---
Visit the JewishGen website: http://www.jewishgen.org
I recommend that you look at the actual ship manifest on microfilm (if
you have not already done so) to verify that the name is, in fact,
"Lerle." I have found many transcription inaccuracies in Glazier's
indices which only become apparent in a side-by side comparison of the
handwritten original manifest and Glazier's typed version of the same
data.

Deborah Dworski
Arlington, Virginia U.S.A.


Surnames in Minsk Province Russia (BYE) #general

AbigtM
 

Can someone tell me when this area was required to adopt surnames? Thank
you.
Please reply direct.

Regards,

Marilyn Abigt
Fallbrook, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: What does given name "Lerle" translate to? #general

ddworski@...
 

Ronald D. Doctor wrote:

I have run across an entry in one of Glazier's books for a man named
Lerle DUBINSKI. Almost all the details in the entry for Lerle and his
family match those of my great-grandfather and his family. However, my
ggf was known as Louis. Does "Lerle" translate to "Louis"? If not, what
would it translate to?

Ron Doctor
rondoctor@cis.com

mailto:rondoctor@CSI.COM
---
Visit the JewishGen website: http://www.jewishgen.org
I recommend that you look at the actual ship manifest on microfilm (if
you have not already done so) to verify that the name is, in fact,
"Lerle." I have found many transcription inaccuracies in Glazier's
indices which only become apparent in a side-by side comparison of the
handwritten original manifest and Glazier's typed version of the same
data.

Deborah Dworski
Arlington, Virginia U.S.A.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Surnames in Minsk Province Russia (BYE) #general

AbigtM
 

Can someone tell me when this area was required to adopt surnames? Thank
you.
Please reply direct.

Regards,

Marilyn Abigt
Fallbrook, CA


JGen Publication Database #general

Ronisl@...
 

Before my post re: the Publication site even appeared in the digest form,
I received three requests as to how to get to that database. Here is the
answer: go to the JGen Homepage>> scroll to Share/Contribute >>go to
Participatory Projects and Activities ..click on Publication ..once there,
scroll down to ENTER and click! Enjoy!

Yours,
Roni Seibel Liebowitz
New York

MODERATOR NOTE: This page can be accessed directly at the following URL:
<http://www.jewishgen.org/interactive/publi_main.html>.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGen Publication Database #general

Ronisl@...
 

Before my post re: the Publication site even appeared in the digest form,
I received three requests as to how to get to that database. Here is the
answer: go to the JGen Homepage>> scroll to Share/Contribute >>go to
Participatory Projects and Activities ..click on Publication ..once there,
scroll down to ENTER and click! Enjoy!

Yours,
Roni Seibel Liebowitz
New York

MODERATOR NOTE: This page can be accessed directly at the following URL:
<http://www.jewishgen.org/interactive/publi_main.html>.


re Nitsa #general

BREST FAMILY <angi@...>
 

Dear Jewishgenners

I am quoting my Greek friend who has once told me that Nitza is a Greek
Name, and it is usually a nickname for people called Eleni (Helen in
English) - ELENITZA and NITZA for short. I know a Greek girl and she is
also Nitza and her real name is Eleni (Helen).

Anne.
------------

ANNE LAPEDUS BREST. Sandton South Africa. (ex DUBLIN, IRELAND)
Researching: LAPEDUS/LAPIDUS (all spellings) Lithuania, Latvia, Poland.
BREST - Bauska, Latvia.
HODES and LEIBOVITZ - Pikeleh, Lithuania.

MODERATOR NOTE: This thread is closed, but this post provides some new
information, so we have allowed it.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re Nitsa #general

BREST FAMILY <angi@...>
 

Dear Jewishgenners

I am quoting my Greek friend who has once told me that Nitza is a Greek
Name, and it is usually a nickname for people called Eleni (Helen in
English) - ELENITZA and NITZA for short. I know a Greek girl and she is
also Nitza and her real name is Eleni (Helen).

Anne.
------------

ANNE LAPEDUS BREST. Sandton South Africa. (ex DUBLIN, IRELAND)
Researching: LAPEDUS/LAPIDUS (all spellings) Lithuania, Latvia, Poland.
BREST - Bauska, Latvia.
HODES and LEIBOVITZ - Pikeleh, Lithuania.

MODERATOR NOTE: This thread is closed, but this post provides some new
information, so we have allowed it.