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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Two Different NYC Marriage Certificates for the Same Couple #general

David & Deborah Peskin <dx2etc@...>
 

On FHC microfilm, I found TWO different NYC marriage certificates for my
grandparents, Louis KESSNER and Claire TOBIAS, within a few days of each
other. The first one is dated 3 December 1926, and is signed by the Bronx
Deputy City Clerk. The second one is dated 11 December 1926, and is signed
by a rabbi. (I also have a ketubah dated 11 December 1926, signed by the
same rabbi.)

Was it customary to obtain two different NYC marriage certificates when the
civil and religious marriages occurred on different dates? If not, does
anyone have any ideas as to why there were two marriage certificates?
Thanks in advance for your help.

Deborah Peskin
Longmeadow, MA
dx2etc@...


Help with Jewish surnames #general

Scott Noar <sman@...>
 

Hi all,
I am new to the newsgroups and to searching my roots.

I need help with Beider's book A Dictionary of Jewish Surnames >from the
Russian Empire.

There are several things about the Noar listing that I don't understand:

The listing says:
(Oshmyany, Vilna) O; N; Naaar [Hebrew] Servant; Young man. {Nor;
Norman}

a. Does (Oshmyany, Vilna) mean the name was used in Oshmyany a town in
the state of Vilna or does it mean the cities of Oshmyany and Vilna?

b. At the end, after giving the hebrew meanings, it says {Nor; Norman}.
What does that mean?

c. Where it says Naaar, the middle a is underlined. So, is this an
attempt to transliterate the pronunciation. We pronounce it like no-ar
(as is yes/no and are).

The O; stands for occupational surname and the N; for personal
characteristics. Again, are they guessing at this?

Sorry if these are dumb questions.
Scott Noar
sman@...


Two Different NYC Marriage Certificates for the Same Couple #general

David & Deborah Peskin <dx2etc@...>
 

On FHC microfilm, I found TWO different NYC marriage certificates for my
grandparents, Louis KESSNER and Claire TOBIAS, within a few days of each
other. The first one is dated 3 December 1926, and is signed by the Bronx
Deputy City Clerk. The second one is dated 11 December 1926, and is signed
by a rabbi. (I also have a ketubah dated 11 December 1926, signed by the
same rabbi.)

Was it customary to obtain two different NYC marriage certificates when the
civil and religious marriages occurred on different dates? If not, does
anyone have any ideas as to why there were two marriage certificates?
Thanks in advance for your help.

Deborah Peskin
Longmeadow, MA
dx2etc@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help with Jewish surnames #general

Scott Noar <sman@...>
 

Hi all,
I am new to the newsgroups and to searching my roots.

I need help with Beider's book A Dictionary of Jewish Surnames >from the
Russian Empire.

There are several things about the Noar listing that I don't understand:

The listing says:
(Oshmyany, Vilna) O; N; Naaar [Hebrew] Servant; Young man. {Nor;
Norman}

a. Does (Oshmyany, Vilna) mean the name was used in Oshmyany a town in
the state of Vilna or does it mean the cities of Oshmyany and Vilna?

b. At the end, after giving the hebrew meanings, it says {Nor; Norman}.
What does that mean?

c. Where it says Naaar, the middle a is underlined. So, is this an
attempt to transliterate the pronunciation. We pronounce it like no-ar
(as is yes/no and are).

The O; stands for occupational surname and the N; for personal
characteristics. Again, are they guessing at this?

Sorry if these are dumb questions.
Scott Noar
sman@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Commonwealth War Graves Commission #general

Harold Pollins <pollins@...>
 

To save people's time and energy you may want to know that the CWGC website
is inoperative until November 17th.


Harold Pollins


Commonwealth War Graves Commission #general

Harold Pollins <pollins@...>
 

To save people's time and energy you may want to know that the CWGC website
is inoperative until November 17th.


Harold Pollins


Trotenov, Czechoslovakia #general

Carol Rombro Rider
 

This was reported on Arutz-7 News via the internet on Friday, November 13,
1998. It may be of interest for those researching the town. It also
suggests that the cemetery has been relatively intact until now, although I
could not guess how many years it has been in use.

<< The Jewish cemetery in Trotenov, Czechoslovakia, was vandalized over the
past several days. Some 41 Jewish gravestones were overturned, and
anti-Jewish graffiti was sprayed in various places there.
>>

Carol Rombro Rider Baltimore, Maryland USA CRomRider@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Trotenov, Czechoslovakia #general

Carol Rombro Rider
 

This was reported on Arutz-7 News via the internet on Friday, November 13,
1998. It may be of interest for those researching the town. It also
suggests that the cemetery has been relatively intact until now, although I
could not guess how many years it has been in use.

<< The Jewish cemetery in Trotenov, Czechoslovakia, was vandalized over the
past several days. Some 41 Jewish gravestones were overturned, and
anti-Jewish graffiti was sprayed in various places there.
>>

Carol Rombro Rider Baltimore, Maryland USA CRomRider@...


Volunteers needed for Cordoba cemetery listing #general

Daniel Wagner <Cpwagner@...>
 

Paul Armony has sent me the listing of the Jewish cemetery in
Cordoba, Argentina. I volunteered to input the data on an EXCEL file.
Since there are a few thousands names, I need several volunteers to
help with the job. Any help welcome.

Daniel
______________
H Daniel Wagner
Rehovot Israel
cpwagner@...
http://www.weizmann.ac.il/wagner


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Volunteers needed for Cordoba cemetery listing #general

Daniel Wagner <Cpwagner@...>
 

Paul Armony has sent me the listing of the Jewish cemetery in
Cordoba, Argentina. I volunteered to input the data on an EXCEL file.
Since there are a few thousands names, I need several volunteers to
help with the job. Any help welcome.

Daniel
______________
H Daniel Wagner
Rehovot Israel
cpwagner@...
http://www.weizmann.ac.il/wagner


Eruv in Los Angeles - Need Lookup #general

Rob Dougherty <robd@...>
 

Can anyone tell me the date of the article in the Los Angeles Times that
described the creation of the North Hollywood eruv? It was between 1985 and
1988. I'm trying to get a copy of the article.

Thanks


Re: Searching: Dina KAYE/Danny KAYE #general

Rob Dougherty <robd@...>
 

There is a Kaye's music store in the San Fernando valley of LA which
belong's to Danny's brother or nephew. Maybe you could reach them there.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Eruv in Los Angeles - Need Lookup #general

Rob Dougherty <robd@...>
 

Can anyone tell me the date of the article in the Los Angeles Times that
described the creation of the North Hollywood eruv? It was between 1985 and
1988. I'm trying to get a copy of the article.

Thanks


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Searching: Dina KAYE/Danny KAYE #general

Rob Dougherty <robd@...>
 

There is a Kaye's music store in the San Fernando valley of LA which
belong's to Danny's brother or nephew. Maybe you could reach them there.


Searching KATZEFF and SMITH, Boston, USA #general

Adam Katzeff <adam.katzeff@...>
 

My ggf, Samuel Joselowitz Katzeff, had a sister who moved to Boston, USA
around 1900 and their
married a man with the surname Smith. I don't know what her name was, but
she was probably was born in Parnu, Estonia where Samuel and his brother
Schile David Joselowitz Katzeff were born (in 1875 and 1878) as the sons of
Josef Leibowitz Katzeff and his wife Rose.

If anyone knows anything about Samuel's and David's sister and her family,
please contact me privately

Adam Katzeff
Malmo, Sweden


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching KATZEFF and SMITH, Boston, USA #general

Adam Katzeff <adam.katzeff@...>
 

My ggf, Samuel Joselowitz Katzeff, had a sister who moved to Boston, USA
around 1900 and their
married a man with the surname Smith. I don't know what her name was, but
she was probably was born in Parnu, Estonia where Samuel and his brother
Schile David Joselowitz Katzeff were born (in 1875 and 1878) as the sons of
Josef Leibowitz Katzeff and his wife Rose.

If anyone knows anything about Samuel's and David's sister and her family,
please contact me privately

Adam Katzeff
Malmo, Sweden


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching KATZEFF, Glasgow, Scotland #general

Adam Katzeff <adam.katzeff@...>
 

My ggf, Samuel Joselowitz Katzeff, had a brother who moved to Glasgow
Scotland around 1900. I'm not sure about his name, but it could be Schile
David Joselowitz Katzeff. What I know about Schile David Katzeff is that he
was born in Parnu, Estonia 3/8 1878 (Samuel was born there 24/5 1875) as
the son of Josef Leibowitz Katzeff and his wife Rose. Schile David Katzeff
came to Stockholm Sweden in the late 1890's, together with Samuel, and
married Berta (surname unknown) born 5/3 1872 in Poland. Together they got
the sons Simon Davidowitz Katzeff (born 8/2 1899 in Stockholm) and Nissen
Inda Davidowitz Katzeff (born 11/11 1900 in Stockholm). After a few years
they moved >from Sweden and I presume it was to Glasgow, Scotland.

If anyone knows anything about Samuel's brother, Schile David or whatever
his namne was, please contact me privately

Adam Katzeff
Malmo, Sweden


Searching:
KATZEFF: "Tapelau", Lithuania; Parnu, Estonia; Stockholm and Gothenburg,
Sweden; Copenhagen, Denmark; Glasgow, Scotland
NEMZOFF: Gub. Vitebsk; Stockholm and Gothenburg, Sweden; Copenhagen,
Denmark


Searching KATZEFF, Glasgow, Scotland #general

Adam Katzeff <adam.katzeff@...>
 

My ggf, Samuel Joselowitz Katzeff, had a brother who moved to Glasgow
Scotland around 1900. I'm not sure about his name, but it could be Schile
David Joselowitz Katzeff. What I know about Schile David Katzeff is that he
was born in Parnu, Estonia 3/8 1878 (Samuel was born there 24/5 1875) as
the son of Josef Leibowitz Katzeff and his wife Rose. Schile David Katzeff
came to Stockholm Sweden in the late 1890's, together with Samuel, and
married Berta (surname unknown) born 5/3 1872 in Poland. Together they got
the sons Simon Davidowitz Katzeff (born 8/2 1899 in Stockholm) and Nissen
Inda Davidowitz Katzeff (born 11/11 1900 in Stockholm). After a few years
they moved >from Sweden and I presume it was to Glasgow, Scotland.

If anyone knows anything about Samuel's brother, Schile David or whatever
his namne was, please contact me privately

Adam Katzeff
Malmo, Sweden


Searching:
KATZEFF: "Tapelau", Lithuania; Parnu, Estonia; Stockholm and Gothenburg,
Sweden; Copenhagen, Denmark; Glasgow, Scotland
NEMZOFF: Gub. Vitebsk; Stockholm and Gothenburg, Sweden; Copenhagen,
Denmark


Searching: DUMAJ - origin of name #general

Solicitors Chambers <lawful@...>
 

I rececently discovered that my maternal grandfather's surname, before he
changed it to Silverstone, was Dumaj (pronounced Dumai) and that the word
"dumaj" means " day-dream" in Polish. What a strange name to have! I
wonder whether it was allocated to his father or grandfather round about
1800 when Jews were forced to take surnames, perhaps by some official who
thought it was mildly humorous? Any Dumajs or Dumais out there to compare
notes with?

Ken Cohen


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: DUMAJ - origin of name #general

Solicitors Chambers <lawful@...>
 

I rececently discovered that my maternal grandfather's surname, before he
changed it to Silverstone, was Dumaj (pronounced Dumai) and that the word
"dumaj" means " day-dream" in Polish. What a strange name to have! I
wonder whether it was allocated to his father or grandfather round about
1800 when Jews were forced to take surnames, perhaps by some official who
thought it was mildly humorous? Any Dumajs or Dumais out there to compare
notes with?

Ken Cohen