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ZUHN #general

Clarence Earnhart <clar@...>
 

Has anyone encountered this surname? I am searching.
Thanks
Clarence


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ZUHN #general

Clarence Earnhart <clar@...>
 

Has anyone encountered this surname? I am searching.
Thanks
Clarence


Re: please comment #general

David Shapiro <dshapiro@...>
 

At 10:34 PM 11/16/98 +0200, you wrote:
Dear Jewishgenners,

I received this letter >from my (I am ashamed to say) 2nd cousin who wrote
this in relation to our SHILLMAN/MIRRELSON family tree.

I am very proud of all the family Trees I have prepared and religion does
not enter into it at all (for my part). What is important to me is the
GENES which connects us all to the Progenitor and not our religious
beliefs.

You should not be ashamed of your cousin, nor he of you. You have two
different approaches and interests in a family tree.

The late Rabbi Shmuel Gorr took your cousin's approach and would not record
on a famiy tree chart the names of any gentiles married into the family
(but he would include children of a Jewish woman by a Gentile father). This
would make sense since according to Halacha children of a Jewish woman by a
gentile are not related to their father, even if he converts after their
conception. Thus they do not inherit him, nor are marriages to his children
by another woman, even after his conversion, considered incest.

But the main point seems to be that your cousin is interested in his family
tree to inspire his children and relatives to follow in the family
tradition -- which is a legitimate reason to pursue genealogy -- and the
chart you have sent him is not helpful in this direction.

On the other hand, you say you are interested in genes. If you mean that
literally and are doing genetic research then your cousin should certainly
understand your interest. Even if you are just interested in historical
facts, and later will decide how to interpret them or to utilize them, no
one can complain. It's even possible that some of the relatives your cousin
would omit might have further information which would be of interest even
to your cousin.

I would suggest two possible solutions.

Solution A: Prepare two charts. One for research purposes, and the other
suitable for framing.

Solution B: Send your cousin a note explaining that since their are various
views on who should be included in the family chart (as he himself said
when he alluded to various views on what is considered a valid conversion),
you will not take a position, but will just present the dry facts. Anyone
who wishes to prepare his own partial chart is welcome to, but perhaps
should include a note that it is based upon a more comprehensie chart
prepared by you.

David Shapiro
Jerusalem
dshapiro@actcom.co.il


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: please comment #general

David Shapiro <dshapiro@...>
 

At 10:34 PM 11/16/98 +0200, you wrote:
Dear Jewishgenners,

I received this letter >from my (I am ashamed to say) 2nd cousin who wrote
this in relation to our SHILLMAN/MIRRELSON family tree.

I am very proud of all the family Trees I have prepared and religion does
not enter into it at all (for my part). What is important to me is the
GENES which connects us all to the Progenitor and not our religious
beliefs.

You should not be ashamed of your cousin, nor he of you. You have two
different approaches and interests in a family tree.

The late Rabbi Shmuel Gorr took your cousin's approach and would not record
on a famiy tree chart the names of any gentiles married into the family
(but he would include children of a Jewish woman by a Gentile father). This
would make sense since according to Halacha children of a Jewish woman by a
gentile are not related to their father, even if he converts after their
conception. Thus they do not inherit him, nor are marriages to his children
by another woman, even after his conversion, considered incest.

But the main point seems to be that your cousin is interested in his family
tree to inspire his children and relatives to follow in the family
tradition -- which is a legitimate reason to pursue genealogy -- and the
chart you have sent him is not helpful in this direction.

On the other hand, you say you are interested in genes. If you mean that
literally and are doing genetic research then your cousin should certainly
understand your interest. Even if you are just interested in historical
facts, and later will decide how to interpret them or to utilize them, no
one can complain. It's even possible that some of the relatives your cousin
would omit might have further information which would be of interest even
to your cousin.

I would suggest two possible solutions.

Solution A: Prepare two charts. One for research purposes, and the other
suitable for framing.

Solution B: Send your cousin a note explaining that since their are various
views on who should be included in the family chart (as he himself said
when he alluded to various views on what is considered a valid conversion),
you will not take a position, but will just present the dry facts. Anyone
who wishes to prepare his own partial chart is welcome to, but perhaps
should include a note that it is based upon a more comprehensie chart
prepared by you.

David Shapiro
Jerusalem
dshapiro@actcom.co.il


Ozarintsy in Ukraine #general

Samy Katz <skatz@...>
 

Hello,

I would highly welcome any information regarding the town of
Ozarintsy in Ukraine (179 miles southwest of Kiev).

Does anybody know if there are any vital records left and where
they might be?

Thanks is advance

Samy Katz
skatz@br.homeshopping.com.br


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ozarintsy in Ukraine #general

Samy Katz <skatz@...>
 

Hello,

I would highly welcome any information regarding the town of
Ozarintsy in Ukraine (179 miles southwest of Kiev).

Does anybody know if there are any vital records left and where
they might be?

Thanks is advance

Samy Katz
skatz@br.homeshopping.com.br


Greenblatt Family #lithuania

Glynne
 

I finally found my missing Greenblatt family and my new cousin Marty Greene is
on this list. Actually my missing Greenblatt cousin found me through the
internet.

Gay Lynne Kegan, Palm Desert, California


Keidan Jews #Keidan #Lithuania Greenblatt Family #lithuania

Glynne
 

I finally found my missing Greenblatt family and my new cousin Marty Greene is
on this list. Actually my missing Greenblatt cousin found me through the
internet.

Gay Lynne Kegan, Palm Desert, California


Re: Okhovo aka Ohov #belarus

Peri282ul@...
 

Frank Swartz wrote:
Okhovo is located 15 km (19.5km by road) northwest of Pinsk in
the Pinsk District. It was, and continues to be, a small
village. I'll post more details when I obtain them.

Was this village ever under Polish rule or connected in any way with Polish
Princely families i.e Radizwell?

thank you,

Barbara Papish
JGSGB


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Okhovo aka Ohov #belarus

Peri282ul@...
 

Frank Swartz wrote:
Okhovo is located 15 km (19.5km by road) northwest of Pinsk in
the Pinsk District. It was, and continues to be, a small
village. I'll post more details when I obtain them.

Was this village ever under Polish rule or connected in any way with Polish
Princely families i.e Radizwell?

thank you,

Barbara Papish
JGSGB


DRUYA #belarus

ELGOLD1@...
 

In response to Annie Anas, DRUYA is in the DISNA district, formerly Vilna
Guberniya. As mentioned previously in this digest, I am currently organizing a
research group for this area to try and purchase records available for several
towns including DRUYA. Please contact me privately to participate.
Eric Goldstein
<ELGOLD1@aol.com>
Disna District Research Group


Belarus SIG #Belarus DRUYA #belarus

ELGOLD1@...
 

In response to Annie Anas, DRUYA is in the DISNA district, formerly Vilna
Guberniya. As mentioned previously in this digest, I am currently organizing a
research group for this area to try and purchase records available for several
towns including DRUYA. Please contact me privately to participate.
Eric Goldstein
<ELGOLD1@aol.com>
Disna District Research Group


JewishGen moves servers to meet growing demands- PLEASE READ! #general

Susan E. King <susan.king@...>
 

Effective at 7:00 a.m. CST tomorrow morning, JewishGen will be down
for a major maintenance upgrade to fix what ails us.

Downtime could be as little as a couple of hours.. or as much as 24-48
hours depending on what we might encounter.

This will affect everything on both of our servers, JewishGen's
website and mailing lists as well as those we host for other
organizations.

Once we are up and running, some service providers may experience a
delay as our new DNS is propagated around the world. This could be
anywhere >from 1 hour >from the time we go live to 7 days, and it is
purely dependent on your service provider. We have taken this into
consideration and made some changes a week ago... to help minimize
this.

Over the last month, JewishGen has literally been "crippled" due to
the increase demand on our servers. Our website alone has seen a 300%
growth in usage over the last few months and has reached over a
staggering 93,000 user sessions a month. Just last June and July, this
number was nested comfortably between 25,000 and 30,000.

Please recognize all of the resources of JewishGen are made available
to amateur and professional genealogists free of charge. Our
commitment has and continues to be providing services and relying on a
100% voluntary contribution program.

To this end, JewishGen received a temporary loan to offset the costs,
a temporary "crutch" to get us through the next few months.

It is a spirit of giving and sharing which has become JewishGen's
hallmark over the years. We only hope that all of you will join with
us, giving voluntarily at whatever level you can. In a nutshell..
folks, we need to "balance the scales" a bit... we are a way out of
kilter... <grin>


Susan

P.S. Voluntary contributions can be made via the following URL:
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For those who can and may wish to contribute more, JewishGen has
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JewishGen moves servers to meet growing demands- PLEASE READ! #general

Susan E. King <susan.king@...>
 

Effective at 7:00 a.m. CST tomorrow morning, JewishGen will be down
for a major maintenance upgrade to fix what ails us.

Downtime could be as little as a couple of hours.. or as much as 24-48
hours depending on what we might encounter.

This will affect everything on both of our servers, JewishGen's
website and mailing lists as well as those we host for other
organizations.

Once we are up and running, some service providers may experience a
delay as our new DNS is propagated around the world. This could be
anywhere >from 1 hour >from the time we go live to 7 days, and it is
purely dependent on your service provider. We have taken this into
consideration and made some changes a week ago... to help minimize
this.

Over the last month, JewishGen has literally been "crippled" due to
the increase demand on our servers. Our website alone has seen a 300%
growth in usage over the last few months and has reached over a
staggering 93,000 user sessions a month. Just last June and July, this
number was nested comfortably between 25,000 and 30,000.

Please recognize all of the resources of JewishGen are made available
to amateur and professional genealogists free of charge. Our
commitment has and continues to be providing services and relying on a
100% voluntary contribution program.

To this end, JewishGen received a temporary loan to offset the costs,
a temporary "crutch" to get us through the next few months.

It is a spirit of giving and sharing which has become JewishGen's
hallmark over the years. We only hope that all of you will join with
us, giving voluntarily at whatever level you can. In a nutshell..
folks, we need to "balance the scales" a bit... we are a way out of
kilter... <grin>


Susan

P.S. Voluntary contributions can be made via the following URL:
http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgen-erosity/

For those who can and may wish to contribute more, JewishGen has
formed the 1K club (those contributing $1000 or more annually). The
URL for the 1K club is
http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgen-erosity/1k.html. Contributions at
this level can be made yearly, bi-annually, quarterly or monthly.


Re: SHER/WITEBSKY #latinamerica

Tammy
 

Dear Carol and other latamsig subscribers,
I apologize for my vague request. I hope this answers your questions:

<< Would have emigrated to WHERE?<< My great aunt told me that her
grandmother's family emigrated to Argentina before the "war". I don't even
know which war as her mother, Simma was born circa 1850's and I don't know my
gg grandmother's maiden name. Simma married Aaron SCHER. They had a child
Joseph SCHER who was born in Alexandropsky Dnepropetrovsk (1867). Joseph
married Rebecca WITEBSKY. (b. 1871).

The story behind the WITEBSKY surname is odd. My great aunt says that her
maternal grandfather, Dov Ber WITEBSKY served in the army. Apparently, out of
fear, every time he was asked his name, he told them where he was from
(Vitebsk). My great aunt does not believe this was the original family name.

My great aunt was funny. When she'd watch the news and something came on
about Argentina, she'd look to see if anyone looked like family. My great
aunt passed away this summer.

I have explored the Jewishgen website. I had success with the 1912 voters'
lists of Grodno. However, that's the extent of my success online. I have
contacted various cousins and am still awaiting replies. Any suggestions?

Tammy Sarote
in USA
searching: SCHER, Dnepropetrovsk; WITEBSKY, Vitebsk; SIROTA, Bielsk;
RABINOWITZ, Minsk.


Latin America #LatinAmerica Re: SHER/WITEBSKY #latinamerica

Tammy
 

Dear Carol and other latamsig subscribers,
I apologize for my vague request. I hope this answers your questions:

<< Would have emigrated to WHERE?<< My great aunt told me that her
grandmother's family emigrated to Argentina before the "war". I don't even
know which war as her mother, Simma was born circa 1850's and I don't know my
gg grandmother's maiden name. Simma married Aaron SCHER. They had a child
Joseph SCHER who was born in Alexandropsky Dnepropetrovsk (1867). Joseph
married Rebecca WITEBSKY. (b. 1871).

The story behind the WITEBSKY surname is odd. My great aunt says that her
maternal grandfather, Dov Ber WITEBSKY served in the army. Apparently, out of
fear, every time he was asked his name, he told them where he was from
(Vitebsk). My great aunt does not believe this was the original family name.

My great aunt was funny. When she'd watch the news and something came on
about Argentina, she'd look to see if anyone looked like family. My great
aunt passed away this summer.

I have explored the Jewishgen website. I had success with the 1912 voters'
lists of Grodno. However, that's the extent of my success online. I have
contacted various cousins and am still awaiting replies. Any suggestions?

Tammy Sarote
in USA
searching: SCHER, Dnepropetrovsk; WITEBSKY, Vitebsk; SIROTA, Bielsk;
RABINOWITZ, Minsk.


Re: Okhovo aka Ohov #belarus

Reeva Kimble <rKimble@...>
 

Barbara,

I don't know about Okhovo, but Mir (near Minsk) was controlled by the
Radizwell family. See info about the history of Mir on my web page:
<http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~rkimble/>.

Reeva Kimble


Frank Swartz wrote:
Okhovo is located 15 km (19.5km by road) northwest of Pinsk in
the Pinsk District. It was, and continues to be, a small
village. I'll post more details when I obtain them.
Barbara Papish wrote:
Was this village ever under Polish rule or connected in any way with
Polish Princely families i.e Radizwell?


Donation to LitvakSIG by JGSLA #lithuania

DBH12345@...
 

Hollywood "Chai"
18th Annual Seminar on Jewish Genealogy
July 12 -17, 1998

November 15, 1998

Dear David and Davida,

On behalf of the Jewish Genealogical Society, Los Angeles (JGSLA), I am
pleased to inform you that the JGSLA Board of Directors recently voted to make
a $3,000 donation to the LitvakSIG. This money comes >from surplus funds
generated by the 18th Annual Seminar on Jewish Genealogy, held this past
summer in Los Angeles. Accordingly, I am enclosing a check for $3,000 made
out to the LitvakSIG.

This donation recognizes both your organization's continued work on behalf of
all Jewish genealogists, and your specific contribution to the Seminar.
LitakSIG's participation in the Seminar helped make it a success, and we hope
that this donation will help your ongoing efforts. We felt that the best way
to use this unexpected surplus was to apply it to projects and activities
where it would have an immediate beneficial effect on Jewish genealogical
research.

Thank you again for your participation in the seminar. We are very happy to
be able to recognize it in this manner.

Sincerely,

Ted Gostin
JGSLA President


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Okhovo aka Ohov #belarus

Reeva Kimble <rKimble@...>
 

Barbara,

I don't know about Okhovo, but Mir (near Minsk) was controlled by the
Radizwell family. See info about the history of Mir on my web page:
<http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~rkimble/>.

Reeva Kimble


Frank Swartz wrote:
Okhovo is located 15 km (19.5km by road) northwest of Pinsk in
the Pinsk District. It was, and continues to be, a small
village. I'll post more details when I obtain them.
Barbara Papish wrote:
Was this village ever under Polish rule or connected in any way with
Polish Princely families i.e Radizwell?


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Donation to LitvakSIG by JGSLA #lithuania

DBH12345@...
 

Hollywood "Chai"
18th Annual Seminar on Jewish Genealogy
July 12 -17, 1998

November 15, 1998

Dear David and Davida,

On behalf of the Jewish Genealogical Society, Los Angeles (JGSLA), I am
pleased to inform you that the JGSLA Board of Directors recently voted to make
a $3,000 donation to the LitvakSIG. This money comes >from surplus funds
generated by the 18th Annual Seminar on Jewish Genealogy, held this past
summer in Los Angeles. Accordingly, I am enclosing a check for $3,000 made
out to the LitvakSIG.

This donation recognizes both your organization's continued work on behalf of
all Jewish genealogists, and your specific contribution to the Seminar.
LitakSIG's participation in the Seminar helped make it a success, and we hope
that this donation will help your ongoing efforts. We felt that the best way
to use this unexpected surplus was to apply it to projects and activities
where it would have an immediate beneficial effect on Jewish genealogical
research.

Thank you again for your participation in the seminar. We are very happy to
be able to recognize it in this manner.

Sincerely,

Ted Gostin
JGSLA President