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Searching family info on Moshe SHARETT (SHERTOK)
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Parr <parr@...>
I am searching family information on Moshe Sharett (former Prime
Minister of Israel). His original name was Shertok. Searching: Weiss, Rosenblum, Chaifetz, Dreitzer, Chertok, Spottheim, Frohlich, Cooper, Geldzahler, Schupf Cynthia Parr parr@...
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching family info on Moshe SHARETT (SHERTOK)
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Parr <parr@...>
I am searching family information on Moshe Sharett (former Prime
Minister of Israel). His original name was Shertok. Searching: Weiss, Rosenblum, Chaifetz, Dreitzer, Chertok, Spottheim, Frohlich, Cooper, Geldzahler, Schupf Cynthia Parr parr@...
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Boston Jewish Advocate Obits
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Susan&David
I am pleased to announce that the latest update to the obituary index
of the "Boston Jewish Advocate" is now available. Thanks to help from Sandy Kronick, this completes the indexing of all the previousmicrofilmed issues beginning in May, 1905, and continues through this week's current issue. The database now indexes over 20,000 obituary notices, by both surname and place of birth. It can be searched on-line at: http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/advocate.htm Thanks to Michaels Tobias and Warren Blatt for posting the data and keeping the web page current. Please note my new e-mail address: rosens@... David Rosen Boston, MA
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Boston Jewish Advocate Obits
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Susan&David
I am pleased to announce that the latest update to the obituary index
of the "Boston Jewish Advocate" is now available. Thanks to help from Sandy Kronick, this completes the indexing of all the previousmicrofilmed issues beginning in May, 1905, and continues through this week's current issue. The database now indexes over 20,000 obituary notices, by both surname and place of birth. It can be searched on-line at: http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/advocate.htm Thanks to Michaels Tobias and Warren Blatt for posting the data and keeping the web page current. Please note my new e-mail address: rosens@... David Rosen Boston, MA
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FF--This is what it's all about!!!
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Ronisl@...
Dear JGenners,
Born in Deblin, Poland in 1940, J lived his childhood years in the midst of war. He and his mother survived when, near the end of the war, the train that was to transport them >from the ghetto to the death camp never arrived. With all the confusion before the Nazi's defeat, they were forgotten. His father who was born in Radom, wasn't as lucky and died in transit to Buchenwald. After the war, his father's family in Southern Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) extended an invitation and made generous arrangements for them to come. However, his mother longed for her own family and so, instead, they went to Colombia where she had siblings. Embarrassed and not wanting the family in South Africa to think she was ungrateful, she soon lost touch with them. Her son left for studies in the US in 1968 and his mother died in 1980. J believed that, except for those in S.R., all his father's relatives perished in the war. He recently gave testimony for Spielberg's Shoah, which brought his early memories to the fore. The interviewer suggested he look up his surname in JewishGen Family Finder. He was thrilled and apprehensive when he saw the name URBACH and a listing for Radom. With great trepidation, he sent a post. I didn't think too much about it when I got his first one since URBACH/AUERBACH was such a common Jewish name in Poland. Then he told me about the relatives in S.R. He also had his mom's 1947 address book, which listed an A Urbach with a box number in Salisbury, S.R. Now I was getting excited. I e-mailed relatives in South Africa who confirmed this as an old address belonging to an uncle who lived there. Cautiously at first, but soon tripping over our statements in our growing enthusiasm, we spoke for over an hour this morning. He started recalling stories about the family he heard as a child, and these are many of the the same stories I knew well. However, as hard as he tries, he cannot recall the names of his paternal grandparents --names he thought he'd never forget. He said when he realized he didn't remember them, he panicked--a piece of him was gone. He was devastated. What better purpose for JGen then to return to him a piece of his history and to ensure that his family is never forgotten. I'm confident that through JRI- Indexing and records directly >from Poland, we'll be able to discover the names of his grandparents and determine how he connects with his new-found family. This man, who didn't think he had another living relative, has a huge family--many living nearby--eager to embrace him. We'll be meeting in 2 weeks. Please--list your names and towns on Family Finder-- one of your relatives may be looking. Happy Thanksgiving to all Roni Seibel Liebowitz Belchatow Shtetl CO-OP Coordinator New York URBACK (AUERBACH,URBACH) --We'grow, Warsaw, Radom, PO; Zimbabwe; KULSKY-- (?) PO; BILSKY (PRZYBYLSKI) --Belchatow to Lodz, PO; PIASKOWSKY-- Belchatow, PO; SEIBEL-SCHAEFER-KLOSS-OSER -- Klimontow, Sandermierz, PO; Grebow, Baronov, Rozwadow, Zukow, Galicia; ANDURER (AMDURER), MECHANIC -- Minsk, Belarus; PERLMAN, GORDON--Liepaja, Latvia; LIEBOWITZ-- Minsk and Dubrovah, Belarus
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen FF--This is what it's all about!!!
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Ronisl@...
Dear JGenners,
Born in Deblin, Poland in 1940, J lived his childhood years in the midst of war. He and his mother survived when, near the end of the war, the train that was to transport them >from the ghetto to the death camp never arrived. With all the confusion before the Nazi's defeat, they were forgotten. His father who was born in Radom, wasn't as lucky and died in transit to Buchenwald. After the war, his father's family in Southern Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) extended an invitation and made generous arrangements for them to come. However, his mother longed for her own family and so, instead, they went to Colombia where she had siblings. Embarrassed and not wanting the family in South Africa to think she was ungrateful, she soon lost touch with them. Her son left for studies in the US in 1968 and his mother died in 1980. J believed that, except for those in S.R., all his father's relatives perished in the war. He recently gave testimony for Spielberg's Shoah, which brought his early memories to the fore. The interviewer suggested he look up his surname in JewishGen Family Finder. He was thrilled and apprehensive when he saw the name URBACH and a listing for Radom. With great trepidation, he sent a post. I didn't think too much about it when I got his first one since URBACH/AUERBACH was such a common Jewish name in Poland. Then he told me about the relatives in S.R. He also had his mom's 1947 address book, which listed an A Urbach with a box number in Salisbury, S.R. Now I was getting excited. I e-mailed relatives in South Africa who confirmed this as an old address belonging to an uncle who lived there. Cautiously at first, but soon tripping over our statements in our growing enthusiasm, we spoke for over an hour this morning. He started recalling stories about the family he heard as a child, and these are many of the the same stories I knew well. However, as hard as he tries, he cannot recall the names of his paternal grandparents --names he thought he'd never forget. He said when he realized he didn't remember them, he panicked--a piece of him was gone. He was devastated. What better purpose for JGen then to return to him a piece of his history and to ensure that his family is never forgotten. I'm confident that through JRI- Indexing and records directly >from Poland, we'll be able to discover the names of his grandparents and determine how he connects with his new-found family. This man, who didn't think he had another living relative, has a huge family--many living nearby--eager to embrace him. We'll be meeting in 2 weeks. Please--list your names and towns on Family Finder-- one of your relatives may be looking. Happy Thanksgiving to all Roni Seibel Liebowitz Belchatow Shtetl CO-OP Coordinator New York URBACK (AUERBACH,URBACH) --We'grow, Warsaw, Radom, PO; Zimbabwe; KULSKY-- (?) PO; BILSKY (PRZYBYLSKI) --Belchatow to Lodz, PO; PIASKOWSKY-- Belchatow, PO; SEIBEL-SCHAEFER-KLOSS-OSER -- Klimontow, Sandermierz, PO; Grebow, Baronov, Rozwadow, Zukow, Galicia; ANDURER (AMDURER), MECHANIC -- Minsk, Belarus; PERLMAN, GORDON--Liepaja, Latvia; LIEBOWITZ-- Minsk and Dubrovah, Belarus
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Hersh vs Gersh
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Howard M. Rensin <hrensin@...>
I have heard that the name Hersh does not really exist in
Russian and that it is Gersh. The use of Hersh is a 'yiddishized' adaptation. Since this might be important in Russian research, does anyone know if this is correct? Howard Howard M. Rensin, Glenwood,MD hrensin@... Searching: RENSIN,RENZIN,KALLET,KALETZKY,KLIAZKO
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Hersh vs Gersh
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Howard M. Rensin <hrensin@...>
I have heard that the name Hersh does not really exist in
Russian and that it is Gersh. The use of Hersh is a 'yiddishized' adaptation. Since this might be important in Russian research, does anyone know if this is correct? Howard Howard M. Rensin, Glenwood,MD hrensin@... Searching: RENSIN,RENZIN,KALLET,KALETZKY,KLIAZKO
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Brooklyn
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Burt Zolotar
I have just been forwarded an old picture and printed material >from a
family in England who think that they are relatives but we're not sure at this point. The picture is of their relative a B ZOLOTAR who appears to have been the President and Chairmen of the Board of the First Romener Ind. Ben. Association of Brooklyn. The Association appears to have been located at 609 Willougby Avenue of Brooklyn, NY. My guess on the picture would be that it is >from the 1920s or 1930s. Can anyone shed some light on what this organization was and possibly whether it still exists? I will have the picture and printed material available on the InterNet sometime later this week. My grandfather was named Boris ZOLOTAR and he lived in Brooklyn at that time. He died in 1932. If possible please respond to me directly at bzolotar@... Thanks. Burt Zolotar Menlo Park, CA
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Brooklyn
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Burt Zolotar
I have just been forwarded an old picture and printed material >from a
family in England who think that they are relatives but we're not sure at this point. The picture is of their relative a B ZOLOTAR who appears to have been the President and Chairmen of the Board of the First Romener Ind. Ben. Association of Brooklyn. The Association appears to have been located at 609 Willougby Avenue of Brooklyn, NY. My guess on the picture would be that it is >from the 1920s or 1930s. Can anyone shed some light on what this organization was and possibly whether it still exists? I will have the picture and printed material available on the InterNet sometime later this week. My grandfather was named Boris ZOLOTAR and he lived in Brooklyn at that time. He died in 1932. If possible please respond to me directly at bzolotar@... Thanks. Burt Zolotar Menlo Park, CA
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ROSENZWEIG - FAITLOVICH connection?
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Joe Barcomb & Julie Waters-Barcomb <jwb@...>
Hi
I'm researching ROSENZWEIG >from Lodz, Poland. I know that Ruchel Rosenzweig was married to Schmuel around 1875. They had 6 children and somehow are related to FAITLOVICH. I've researched as much as I can and still can't locate the connection. Any information would be appreciated. Julie Julie Waters-Barcomb
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ROSENZWEIG - FAITLOVICH connection?
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Joe Barcomb & Julie Waters-Barcomb <jwb@...>
Hi
I'm researching ROSENZWEIG >from Lodz, Poland. I know that Ruchel Rosenzweig was married to Schmuel around 1875. They had 6 children and somehow are related to FAITLOVICH. I've researched as much as I can and still can't locate the connection. Any information would be appreciated. Julie Julie Waters-Barcomb
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Searching:NAGURNEY
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Pyotr@...
I am researching the name NAGURNEY. The name is found on the CJSI,
Avotaynu index, and in Alexander Beider's book"Jewish surnames in the Kingdom of Poland." Does this mean that all people with the surname NAGURNEY are of Jewish descent, or is the name common in Poland and Russia among both Jews and non-Jews. There are of course many ways to spell this surname, including NAGORNY, NAGOURNEY,NAGURNY, NAGORNYJ, and a few others. If anyone can help me answer this question, " Are all of the NAGURNEY'S Jewish?" I would appreciate your help. Thank you my Friends, Peter Nagurney Syracuse, NY
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching:NAGURNEY
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Pyotr@...
I am researching the name NAGURNEY. The name is found on the CJSI,
Avotaynu index, and in Alexander Beider's book"Jewish surnames in the Kingdom of Poland." Does this mean that all people with the surname NAGURNEY are of Jewish descent, or is the name common in Poland and Russia among both Jews and non-Jews. There are of course many ways to spell this surname, including NAGORNY, NAGOURNEY,NAGURNY, NAGORNYJ, and a few others. If anyone can help me answer this question, " Are all of the NAGURNEY'S Jewish?" I would appreciate your help. Thank you my Friends, Peter Nagurney Syracuse, NY
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Social Security Information - CFP Reply
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Charles F. Printz <cfphrai@...>
On Sunday, 22 Nov.98 "IsraelP" p2o5rock@...
in message 46 wrote, in pertinent part: Is there any way at all (not just online) to get informationfrom Social Security based on a search for the surname usedat the time the SS-5 was filed? (In fact, they should also Dear Israel: The Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), 5 USC 552, Et Seq., allows the public to request any/all legitimate records a/o files >from an agencies records keeping systems. Whether the agency involved can actually find the requested material/s is another matter altogether. The agency can, as a matter of law and regulation, exempt a/o sanitize records that they deem classified or protected under the Privacy Act. You may, of course, challenge their decision/s first administratively and, if you feel you have received no satisfaction, may then proceed to take the agency to Federal Court on a "demand" to disclose. It should be noted that even when an agency refuses to "legitimately" disclose, they are obligated by law to supply you with that part of the information that a reasonable weigher of facts would consider non-exempted. They must also inform you of their specific reason/s for said action/s thru enumeration of the provisions they are acting under. In my private law firm, and in the activities of the non-profit human rights law group that I am Deputy Director of, we file FOIA requests all the time. Where the information being sought is clearly and concisely stated, and accurate identifying information provided, most agencies and departments usually reply to our queries in satisfactory way. It also helps to make certain that the agency you are writing is the one actually holding the records being sought. This may appear to be a silly thing to stress, but with passage of time and the archival nature of many records their occurs shifts in control of records >from one agency to another. Also, in some cases, records are held at the local or District Office level in lieu of the Washington, DC level. As such, in our firm we always file our requests with DC and the relevant District Office. In this vein it is helpful to indicate in your request the changed names of the agencies in question, i.e., pointing out that records held by the Dept. of Health, Education & Welfare, by example, might now be held by the Dept of Health and Human Services a/o the Dept of Education. Likewise, that records held by the US Agency for International Development in the period 1960-1975 approx may be held by the Central Intelligence Agency a/o the Dept of Defense. I hope this information is of some help. Just remember that in many cases you are now dealing with very young officers who have very little, if any, information on the history of their own agency and its holdings. Best regards, Charles F. Printz, Elizabeth, NJ/USA JGFF Researcher #7493 Seeking:(1) YARESHEFSKY, Sam/David/Morris - Odessa, Russia Alternatively: YORASHEFSKY, YORASHEVSKY, YAROSHEVSKY, JAROSHEVSKY,JAROCHEWSKI ERESHEFSKY, YARREY, YAROSH, YARESH. (2) WOLCZEK, Sarah/Eva/Molly/Herman/Lena/Pauline - Warsaw, Poland Alternatively: WOLCZYK, WALCZEK, WALLACK, WALLACH, WILCZEK, WILCZYK.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Social Security Information - CFP Reply
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Charles F. Printz <cfphrai@...>
On Sunday, 22 Nov.98 "IsraelP" p2o5rock@...
in message 46 wrote, in pertinent part: Is there any way at all (not just online) to get informationfrom Social Security based on a search for the surname usedat the time the SS-5 was filed? (In fact, they should also Dear Israel: The Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), 5 USC 552, Et Seq., allows the public to request any/all legitimate records a/o files >from an agencies records keeping systems. Whether the agency involved can actually find the requested material/s is another matter altogether. The agency can, as a matter of law and regulation, exempt a/o sanitize records that they deem classified or protected under the Privacy Act. You may, of course, challenge their decision/s first administratively and, if you feel you have received no satisfaction, may then proceed to take the agency to Federal Court on a "demand" to disclose. It should be noted that even when an agency refuses to "legitimately" disclose, they are obligated by law to supply you with that part of the information that a reasonable weigher of facts would consider non-exempted. They must also inform you of their specific reason/s for said action/s thru enumeration of the provisions they are acting under. In my private law firm, and in the activities of the non-profit human rights law group that I am Deputy Director of, we file FOIA requests all the time. Where the information being sought is clearly and concisely stated, and accurate identifying information provided, most agencies and departments usually reply to our queries in satisfactory way. It also helps to make certain that the agency you are writing is the one actually holding the records being sought. This may appear to be a silly thing to stress, but with passage of time and the archival nature of many records their occurs shifts in control of records >from one agency to another. Also, in some cases, records are held at the local or District Office level in lieu of the Washington, DC level. As such, in our firm we always file our requests with DC and the relevant District Office. In this vein it is helpful to indicate in your request the changed names of the agencies in question, i.e., pointing out that records held by the Dept. of Health, Education & Welfare, by example, might now be held by the Dept of Health and Human Services a/o the Dept of Education. Likewise, that records held by the US Agency for International Development in the period 1960-1975 approx may be held by the Central Intelligence Agency a/o the Dept of Defense. I hope this information is of some help. Just remember that in many cases you are now dealing with very young officers who have very little, if any, information on the history of their own agency and its holdings. Best regards, Charles F. Printz, Elizabeth, NJ/USA JGFF Researcher #7493 Seeking:(1) YARESHEFSKY, Sam/David/Morris - Odessa, Russia Alternatively: YORASHEFSKY, YORASHEVSKY, YAROSHEVSKY, JAROSHEVSKY,JAROCHEWSKI ERESHEFSKY, YARREY, YAROSH, YARESH. (2) WOLCZEK, Sarah/Eva/Molly/Herman/Lena/Pauline - Warsaw, Poland Alternatively: WOLCZYK, WALCZEK, WALLACK, WALLACH, WILCZEK, WILCZYK.
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Re: Neshviz and other shtetlach
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Ralph Berrick <rbofrb@...>
You can find the information, by going to www.expediamaps.com
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Click on the item requesting search for cities, you will then get a window asking for name and location. Type in the name of the shtetl, and Belarus, and you will then get a map showing it's location, although they list the spelling as Nesvish, rather than Neshiv. Hope this helps. Ralph Berrick San Diego, Ca. Searching: BERRICK -Ylakia ( Russia, Lithuania) HOROWITZ - Ylakiai (Russia - Lithuania) Chuck Weinstein wrote:
Does anyone know the specific location of Neshviz? Where canTina (and all other readers of this Digest),
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Neshviz and other shtetlach
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Ralph Berrick <rbofrb@...>
You can find the information, by going to www.expediamaps.com
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Click on the item requesting search for cities, you will then get a window asking for name and location. Type in the name of the shtetl, and Belarus, and you will then get a map showing it's location, although they list the spelling as Nesvish, rather than Neshiv. Hope this helps. Ralph Berrick San Diego, Ca. Searching: BERRICK -Ylakia ( Russia, Lithuania) HOROWITZ - Ylakiai (Russia - Lithuania) Chuck Weinstein wrote:
Does anyone know the specific location of Neshviz? Where canTina (and all other readers of this Digest),
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Whys and wherefores of Jewish immigration to Canada
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Barbara Siegel <bsiegel@...>
Dear Jewishgenners,
I am looking for information re Jewish immigration patterns >from Europe to Canada, especially during the second half of the 19th century. I am assuming that the major waves of Jewish immigration to Canada took place after the first World War as a result of the restricted quotas on entrance to the U.S. What were the circumstances that resulted in earlier Jewish immigration to Canada as opposed to the U.S., the destination chosen by the majority of Jews >from Eastern Europe? I am not referring to the use of Canada as a transit point on the way to the U.S., but to those who remained permanently in Canada. I have been told that there were restrictions on entry to the U.S. prior to 1900, but I am not sure that this is correct. Could someone please enlighten me on this point. Also, I am very interested in reading accounts of the Jewish immigration experience in Canada, and would appreciate some suggestions. Thanks to all who can enlighten me on this subject. Barbara Siegel Jerusalem Searching: FRIEDLANDER/Ventspils, LEVINSON/Grobin,Ventspils, HERTZBERG/Tukums, BERSHADSKY/Tulchin
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Whys and wherefores of Jewish immigration to Canada
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Barbara Siegel <bsiegel@...>
Dear Jewishgenners,
I am looking for information re Jewish immigration patterns >from Europe to Canada, especially during the second half of the 19th century. I am assuming that the major waves of Jewish immigration to Canada took place after the first World War as a result of the restricted quotas on entrance to the U.S. What were the circumstances that resulted in earlier Jewish immigration to Canada as opposed to the U.S., the destination chosen by the majority of Jews >from Eastern Europe? I am not referring to the use of Canada as a transit point on the way to the U.S., but to those who remained permanently in Canada. I have been told that there were restrictions on entry to the U.S. prior to 1900, but I am not sure that this is correct. Could someone please enlighten me on this point. Also, I am very interested in reading accounts of the Jewish immigration experience in Canada, and would appreciate some suggestions. Thanks to all who can enlighten me on this subject. Barbara Siegel Jerusalem Searching: FRIEDLANDER/Ventspils, LEVINSON/Grobin,Ventspils, HERTZBERG/Tukums, BERSHADSKY/Tulchin
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