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Re: Bielcza #poland

Lthorpe883@...
 

Perhaps I have a different read on the message posted by EHarpin, but it
seemed to me that he/she was asking for more information about that town, not
asking for some specific research to be done for him/her.
I am sure I have seen many such posts in the past. Of course all of the sites
listed are the best way to begin, but it is very enlightening to connect with
someone who knows more about the flavor of your family's shtetl.
Hope everyone has a Happy Thanksgiving!
Linda Thorpe Caciola
Venice, CA

Lthorpe883@aol.com


JRI Poland #Poland Re:Bielcza #poland

Lthorpe883@...
 

Perhaps I have a different read on the message posted by EHarpin, but it
seemed to me that he/she was asking for more information about that town, not
asking for some specific research to be done for him/her.
I am sure I have seen many such posts in the past. Of course all of the sites
listed are the best way to begin, but it is very enlightening to connect with
someone who knows more about the flavor of your family's shtetl.
Hope everyone has a Happy Thanksgiving!
Linda Thorpe Caciola
Venice, CA

Lthorpe883@aol.com


Honest genealogy search inUkraine and Georgia #general

Metersky@...
 

Does anyone know of someone in the Ukraine and/or Georgia that does genealogy
searches that is honest and reliable? Please send response to
<metersky@aol.com>.Thank you.

Mort Metersky

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Honest genealogy search inUkraine and Georgia #general

Metersky@...
 

Does anyone know of someone in the Ukraine and/or Georgia that does genealogy
searches that is honest and reliable? Please send response to
<metersky@aol.com>.Thank you.

Mort Metersky

MODERATOR NOTE: Since we cannot publish testimonials or
recommendations for researchers, please respond privately.


Re Jewish Immigration to Canada #general

Avrum Lapin <avrum113@...>
 

wrote: Barbara Siegel

I am looking for information re Jewish immigration patterns >from Europe
to >Canada, especially during the second half of the 19th century.(snip)
What were the circumstances that resulted in earlier Jewish
immigration to Canada as opposed to the U.S., the destination chosen by
the majority of Jews >from Eastern Europe?
I am not referring to the use of Canada as a transit point on the way to
the U.S., but to those who remained permanently in Canada. (snip).......
Also, I am very interested in reading accounts of the Jewish immigration
experience in Canada, and would appreciate some suggestions.

Why Canada and not the US

The Canadian Government and the Canadian Pacific Railway actively
recruited immigrants in Central Europe and subsidized their passage
to the Canadian West. The motivation was fear that Americans coming
north >from Minnisota and the Dakotas would settle Western Canada and
annex it to the US (like Texas was annexed >from Mexico) and the need
for the railway to have customers. Cheap fares may have been one reason.

The second reason may have been the perception that opportunities in
Canada were better than in the States or alternately the slums of
Montreal and Toronto were not as squalid as the the slums of New York.

On the other hand prominent Canadian politicians (some in the last
century and certainly some in this century) were definitely not
enthusiastic about the immigration of Jews into Canada - I have the
impression that Canadian politicians were less enthusiastic about
Jewish immigration than Americans were.

My father's father came to Montreal in 1903 possibly because his older
half brothers were already there. He later went to New York by train in
1905 (per the St Alban's register) and while he met my grandmother in
NYC he returned to Montreal to live the rest of his life.

My mother's father came to Winnipeg possibly because he dreamed of
farming (a forbidden occupation in Russia) and possibly because some
cousins/landsmen preceed him.

My parents lived in Canada. I came to the US in 1963 because of
career opportunities.

I don't know if you can find it in Isreal but a book published in
Toronto in 1980 by Harry Gutkin called Journey Into Our heritage - The
story of the Jewish People in Western Canada has a good description of
the life of Jewsih immigrants in Western Canada. If that is not
available you might try articles on Canada, Montreal, Toronto, Winnipeg
and Manitoba in the Encyclopedia Judicica. On the web try the Canadian
Jewish Congress (http://www.cjc.ca) and research the name kessler in
JewishGen archives.

Avrum Lapin,
Upland, CA
avrum113@cyberg8t.com

Researching:
LAPIN Grodno
LAPUNSKI Grodno,Indura and Sokolka
KATZ,Abraham Bialystok and Sokolka
LUBELSKY Bialystok
RODIN Winnipeg and Gomel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re Jewish Immigration to Canada #general

Avrum Lapin <avrum113@...>
 

wrote: Barbara Siegel

I am looking for information re Jewish immigration patterns >from Europe
to >Canada, especially during the second half of the 19th century.(snip)
What were the circumstances that resulted in earlier Jewish
immigration to Canada as opposed to the U.S., the destination chosen by
the majority of Jews >from Eastern Europe?
I am not referring to the use of Canada as a transit point on the way to
the U.S., but to those who remained permanently in Canada. (snip).......
Also, I am very interested in reading accounts of the Jewish immigration
experience in Canada, and would appreciate some suggestions.

Why Canada and not the US

The Canadian Government and the Canadian Pacific Railway actively
recruited immigrants in Central Europe and subsidized their passage
to the Canadian West. The motivation was fear that Americans coming
north >from Minnisota and the Dakotas would settle Western Canada and
annex it to the US (like Texas was annexed >from Mexico) and the need
for the railway to have customers. Cheap fares may have been one reason.

The second reason may have been the perception that opportunities in
Canada were better than in the States or alternately the slums of
Montreal and Toronto were not as squalid as the the slums of New York.

On the other hand prominent Canadian politicians (some in the last
century and certainly some in this century) were definitely not
enthusiastic about the immigration of Jews into Canada - I have the
impression that Canadian politicians were less enthusiastic about
Jewish immigration than Americans were.

My father's father came to Montreal in 1903 possibly because his older
half brothers were already there. He later went to New York by train in
1905 (per the St Alban's register) and while he met my grandmother in
NYC he returned to Montreal to live the rest of his life.

My mother's father came to Winnipeg possibly because he dreamed of
farming (a forbidden occupation in Russia) and possibly because some
cousins/landsmen preceed him.

My parents lived in Canada. I came to the US in 1963 because of
career opportunities.

I don't know if you can find it in Isreal but a book published in
Toronto in 1980 by Harry Gutkin called Journey Into Our heritage - The
story of the Jewish People in Western Canada has a good description of
the life of Jewsih immigrants in Western Canada. If that is not
available you might try articles on Canada, Montreal, Toronto, Winnipeg
and Manitoba in the Encyclopedia Judicica. On the web try the Canadian
Jewish Congress (http://www.cjc.ca) and research the name kessler in
JewishGen archives.

Avrum Lapin,
Upland, CA
avrum113@cyberg8t.com

Researching:
LAPIN Grodno
LAPUNSKI Grodno,Indura and Sokolka
KATZ,Abraham Bialystok and Sokolka
LUBELSKY Bialystok
RODIN Winnipeg and Gomel


Correction: FALTISCHEK & BRONZESCU #general

haflo <haflo@...>
 

A short while ago, I wrote in on behalf of a British friend who is
searching for a relative named Hedy BRONZESCU. In error, I gave an
incorrect family name which I am attempting to correct now.

Hedy BRONZESCU was closely related to my friend's mother (Grete
FALTISCHEK/BLITZ), & her uncle (Walter FALTISCHEK). The family lost
touch in 1929, & despite repeated attempts to locate the descendants
of Hedy BRONZESCU, they have been unsuccessful.

Hedy BRONZESCU (her maiden name) was born on June 26, 1912 in Vienna.
Her parents Eugen & Natalie BRONZESCU were >from Romania (possibly
Bucharest). It is believed that Hedy once lived in Paris, then moved
to England where she married a doctor.

If anyone has any knowledge of the BRONZESCU or FALTISCHEK family names,
please reply privately.


ELMAN researching: MACHERET - Zolotonosha, Ukraine; PRESSMAN - Dolginov,
Vilenskaya (Vileyka); SURIS/SURES - Odessa, Ukraine; WEISSBEIN/VAJSBEJN -
Odessa, Ukraine; NERENBERG - Socolec, Podolsk, Ukraine;
ZILBERBERG/SILBERBERG - Podolia, Ukraine; GOTLIBOVICH/GOTLIBOWITZ/GOTLIEB -
Cherkassy, Korsun, Zolotonosha, Kharkov, & H/Gorodishche, Ukraine

Florence Elman
<haflo@cadvision.com>


Emanuel Hebrew Rest. FORT WORTH #general

Judith Wolkovitch <102444.44@...>
 

Is there anyone in Fort Worth who would be willing to visit the Emanual
Hebrew Rest. and find a gravestone in return for some research in Los
Angeles? I have tried making a phone call to the cemetery but the lady
seemed unable to help.

Please reply privately

Thank you

Judy Wolkovitch 102444.44@compuserve.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Correction: FALTISCHEK & BRONZESCU #general

haflo <haflo@...>
 

A short while ago, I wrote in on behalf of a British friend who is
searching for a relative named Hedy BRONZESCU. In error, I gave an
incorrect family name which I am attempting to correct now.

Hedy BRONZESCU was closely related to my friend's mother (Grete
FALTISCHEK/BLITZ), & her uncle (Walter FALTISCHEK). The family lost
touch in 1929, & despite repeated attempts to locate the descendants
of Hedy BRONZESCU, they have been unsuccessful.

Hedy BRONZESCU (her maiden name) was born on June 26, 1912 in Vienna.
Her parents Eugen & Natalie BRONZESCU were >from Romania (possibly
Bucharest). It is believed that Hedy once lived in Paris, then moved
to England where she married a doctor.

If anyone has any knowledge of the BRONZESCU or FALTISCHEK family names,
please reply privately.


ELMAN researching: MACHERET - Zolotonosha, Ukraine; PRESSMAN - Dolginov,
Vilenskaya (Vileyka); SURIS/SURES - Odessa, Ukraine; WEISSBEIN/VAJSBEJN -
Odessa, Ukraine; NERENBERG - Socolec, Podolsk, Ukraine;
ZILBERBERG/SILBERBERG - Podolia, Ukraine; GOTLIBOVICH/GOTLIBOWITZ/GOTLIEB -
Cherkassy, Korsun, Zolotonosha, Kharkov, & H/Gorodishche, Ukraine

Florence Elman
<haflo@cadvision.com>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Emanuel Hebrew Rest. FORT WORTH #general

Judith Wolkovitch <102444.44@...>
 

Is there anyone in Fort Worth who would be willing to visit the Emanual
Hebrew Rest. and find a gravestone in return for some research in Los
Angeles? I have tried making a phone call to the cemetery but the lady
seemed unable to help.

Please reply privately

Thank you

Judy Wolkovitch 102444.44@compuserve.com


Re: ShtetLink for Gorlice, Galicia, now Poland #general

A.Sharon <a.sharon@...>
 

Marjorie Stamm Rosenfeld wrote:

In conjunction with the JewishGen Web Page Design course I've been
taking, I'm attempting to design some ShtetLink Web pages for Gorlice,
which was in Austrian Galicia and is now in Poland near Nowy Sacz. So
far, the information I have comes >from the Encyclopedia Judaica, the
material >from the Gorlice Yiskor book at the JewishGen site, the
material on the Gorlice cemetery on JewishGen, and JewishGen's Shtetl
Seeker (with its link to MapQuest).

My ex-husband's mother, Sylvia Rosenfeld (nee Ring) was >from Gorlice;
and I'm hoping to have some material >from her family to add--perhaps
even an old photo or two.
SNIP
You might like to add in your work the following links to the Gorlice
(in English):

History of Gorlice (Jews of Gorlice are mentioned in this work):

http://www.minix.gorlice.pl/gorlice/ehistorg.html

City Map

http://www.minix.gorlice.pl/gorlice/plan.html

Gorlice showcase, town attractions

Tourist attractions (including mentioning the synagogue - presently
bakery)

http://www.minix.gorlice.pl/gorlice/eturystyg.html

Names of some other smaller shtetlakh around Gorlice

http://www.carpatho-rusyn.org/rich/appendix.htm

and

http://www.malopolska.ipl.net/gorlice/3pl.htm



Alexander Sharon


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: ShtetLink for Gorlice, Galicia, now Poland #general

A.Sharon <a.sharon@...>
 

Marjorie Stamm Rosenfeld wrote:

In conjunction with the JewishGen Web Page Design course I've been
taking, I'm attempting to design some ShtetLink Web pages for Gorlice,
which was in Austrian Galicia and is now in Poland near Nowy Sacz. So
far, the information I have comes >from the Encyclopedia Judaica, the
material >from the Gorlice Yiskor book at the JewishGen site, the
material on the Gorlice cemetery on JewishGen, and JewishGen's Shtetl
Seeker (with its link to MapQuest).

My ex-husband's mother, Sylvia Rosenfeld (nee Ring) was >from Gorlice;
and I'm hoping to have some material >from her family to add--perhaps
even an old photo or two.
SNIP
You might like to add in your work the following links to the Gorlice
(in English):

History of Gorlice (Jews of Gorlice are mentioned in this work):

http://www.minix.gorlice.pl/gorlice/ehistorg.html

City Map

http://www.minix.gorlice.pl/gorlice/plan.html

Gorlice showcase, town attractions

Tourist attractions (including mentioning the synagogue - presently
bakery)

http://www.minix.gorlice.pl/gorlice/eturystyg.html

Names of some other smaller shtetlakh around Gorlice

http://www.carpatho-rusyn.org/rich/appendix.htm

and

http://www.malopolska.ipl.net/gorlice/3pl.htm



Alexander Sharon


new e-mail address #general

shimonoz
 

Hello!
Pls. note that I started to use my new address.
shimonoz@inter.net.il

Shimon Ouziel
Tel Aviv Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen new e-mail address #general

shimonoz
 

Hello!
Pls. note that I started to use my new address.
shimonoz@inter.net.il

Shimon Ouziel
Tel Aviv Israel


Lack of "H" in Russian #general

BONUS <yairharu@...>
 

Alexander Sharon's posting on the Russian lack of the letter "H", which
appears in other European languages, was very interesting and informative.

However, he seems to be unaware that English has the exact opposite problem
in that, while most European languages have a guttural sound represented,
usually by "CH" or by "X" or (in Spanish) by "J" (for example, the Scottish
word loch) English does not have this sound. This guttural sound is,
therefore, often represented in English by the letter "H" and is often
pronounced that way.

The examples that Alexander gives to illustrate the use of the Russian "X"
are, for the most part, words that have this guttural sound - Haifa, Hanna
and Haim are all Hebrew names, pronounced with the "CH" or "KH" gutturals,
and represented (and sometimes pronounced) in English as an "H" sound. The
Russian representation is, therefore, closer to the original sound than the
English representation.

All the best,
Chaim Charutz - Petach Tikva, Israel.


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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Lack of "H" in Russian #general

BONUS <yairharu@...>
 

Alexander Sharon's posting on the Russian lack of the letter "H", which
appears in other European languages, was very interesting and informative.

However, he seems to be unaware that English has the exact opposite problem
in that, while most European languages have a guttural sound represented,
usually by "CH" or by "X" or (in Spanish) by "J" (for example, the Scottish
word loch) English does not have this sound. This guttural sound is,
therefore, often represented in English by the letter "H" and is often
pronounced that way.

The examples that Alexander gives to illustrate the use of the Russian "X"
are, for the most part, words that have this guttural sound - Haifa, Hanna
and Haim are all Hebrew names, pronounced with the "CH" or "KH" gutturals,
and represented (and sometimes pronounced) in English as an "H" sound. The
Russian representation is, therefore, closer to the original sound than the
English representation.

All the best,
Chaim Charutz - Petach Tikva, Israel.


MODERATOR NOTE: Although the thread is closed this message
opens up a new view point on the subject and is, therefore
being posted.


Searching ISRAEL -> Australia #general

Mrs M Sprott <sprottm@...>
 

I am trying to find my grandmothers relatives. Her name was Hannah ISRAEL.
She was born in England on the 26.4.1885. Her father's name was Benjamin
Israel. He was born in Palestine in 1851. Her mother's name was Rachel
DANIEL. She was born in Palestine in 1853. They were married in Palestine
in 1873, and they went to England to live, and had 17 children. She came
to Australia in 1901, and met my grandfather on the same ship has her, and
was married in Sydney in 1901. Do you have anyone in Australia with that
surname who has grandparents the same as grandma's? Regards Monica Sprott


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching ISRAEL -> Australia #general

Mrs M Sprott <sprottm@...>
 

I am trying to find my grandmothers relatives. Her name was Hannah ISRAEL.
She was born in England on the 26.4.1885. Her father's name was Benjamin
Israel. He was born in Palestine in 1851. Her mother's name was Rachel
DANIEL. She was born in Palestine in 1853. They were married in Palestine
in 1873, and they went to England to live, and had 17 children. She came
to Australia in 1901, and met my grandfather on the same ship has her, and
was married in Sydney in 1901. Do you have anyone in Australia with that
surname who has grandparents the same as grandma's? Regards Monica Sprott


FINKELSTEIN of Minneapollis #general

Paul Silverstone <paulh@...>
 

I am searching for the FINKELSTEIN family who lived in
Minneapolis::

Peter Finkelstein (1874-1939) m. Mary
a. Minnie (b 1904)
b. Katie (b. 1905)
c. Pearl (b. 1907)
d. Lawrence (b. 1911)
e. Carl (b. 1913)


Paul Silverstone
New York

reply to: paulh@aya.yale.edu


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen FINKELSTEIN of Minneapollis #general

Paul Silverstone <paulh@...>
 

I am searching for the FINKELSTEIN family who lived in
Minneapolis::

Peter Finkelstein (1874-1939) m. Mary
a. Minnie (b 1904)
b. Katie (b. 1905)
c. Pearl (b. 1907)
d. Lawrence (b. 1911)
e. Carl (b. 1913)


Paul Silverstone
New York

reply to: paulh@aya.yale.edu