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Re: Name decree of 1787 #hungary

Dolph Klein <kledolph@...>
 

At 12:01 AM 2/15/1999 -0600, Gyorgy Ujlaki wrote:

Emperor Joseph II issued an order for Jews to take pernament names on July
23,1787. I did a rough translation of the decree. Source: _Bergl Jozsef, A magyarorszagi zsidok tortenete._ Kaposvar 1879. Reprinted Kaposvar, n.d.

3. All heads of households who adopted names for themselves and for
their families, or individual, who adopted names for themselves, must register their surnames and personal names by the last day of November 1787 in German (language) to those town or village authorities, where they live or their residential permit is valid. The registration form does not need stamps, but must be signed by the representative of the district and district or chief rabbi.

5. The registration forms mentioned in 3. must be preserved by the
authorities and during conscription must be handed over to the conscription official, so that these names are recorded, during the first time including the old names, in special books....
Do you know, Gyorgi, or does any one else knows if the registration forms
mentioned in 3. and/or the special books mentioned in 5. exist today?

If they do, where are they likely to be deposited and how can we gain access to them? For example, I have specific interest in the towns and villages of Pozsony and Maramaros Counties. Are these records likely to be stored in the National Szechenjy Library or in the Archives of the Slovak Republic and Romania, respectively?

Dolph Klein
Chapel Hill, NC
USA


Lithuanian Holocaust Names Project #general

Dr Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

This announcement describes:

*A Letter to Litvaks about this project
*A fact sheet relating to the project
*The progress of the project
*The formation of the * The Lithuanian Memorial Foundation *
(Keren Zikaron Leyahadur Lita) in Israel



**Lithuanian Names Project** - A letter to Litvaks, February 1999.
Note: The full text of this letter is on The Lithuanian Names Project
Web Site http://www.jewishgen.org/litvak/lithnames.htm

Remembering Lithuanian Shoah Victims: A Research Project

A large project started in November 1997, namely, to collect as many
names as possible of victims of the Lithuanian Holocaust (1941-1945).
The goal is to publish a Memorial book; preserving the memory of the
names of the martyrs for generations to come. It is of utmost
importance to prevent the victims >from being forgotten.

No comprehensive record exists of the names and details of Lithuanian
Jews who were murdered.

The methodology and research resources are described. The main sources
of information are at Yad Vashem, the USHMM, the Vilna Gaon Jewish state
Museum and >from privately submitted names.

A name submission form is attached to the web site. This is a further
appeal for submissions of family names.

The database is outlined, and privacy and copyright guidelines are
described.

Go to the Lithuanian Names Project Web Site
http://www.jewishgen.org/litvak/lithnames.htm for further details.

*Progress:

To date (February 1999) approximately 90,000 names have been collected.
A searchable database has been constructed and entry of individual names
and where possible families continues daily.
Many archival and library resources have been investigated, both in
Lithuania and in the rest of the world. Many relevant contacts have been
made in various institutions.
A number of unusual archival resources have been investigated.
An initial list of six thousand names was given to Yad Vashem (at their
request) for matching against Swiss Bank records.
Approximately 40 press references to the project have been published.

**The Lithuanian Memorial Foundation** (Keren Zikaron Leyahadt Lita) has
been registered as an Amuta (charitable foundation) in Israel.

The objectives are (broadly) to facilitate research, collect and
publish information relating to the Holocaust in Lithuania.

The initial board is:

Rose Lerer Cohen M.A., Holocaust researcher.

Sol Ganor. Author of "Light Two Candles" and other works. Board Member
Yad Vashem.

Joseph Harmatz. Director-General emeritus World Ort, Director General
emeritus and comptroller Israeli Ort. Author of "Beyond the Wings".

Prof. Bernard Lerer. Prof. Experimental Psychiatry, Hebrew University
Jerusalem.


Prof. Dov Levin. Head, Oral History, Department of Contemporary History,
Hebrew University, Jerusalem. Author of "Pinkas HaKehilot Lita".

Rachel Levin. Secretary and Archivist, Association of Lithuanian Jews in
Israel.

Advocate Joseph Melamed. Chairman, Association of Lithuanian Jews in
Israel. Board Member, Centre of Organisations of Holocaust Survivors in
Israel.

*Website.
A website attached to Litvak SIG webpage has been constructed by
webmaster Trevor Tucker.

This consists of :

A letter to Litvaks
A factsheet
A name submission form
Multiple links relating to the Lithuanian Holocaust
References (books and journals) relating to the Lithuanian Holocaust.

See:
Ten Facts about the Lithuanian Holocaust
http://www.jewishgen.org/litvak/10facts.htm

Dr Saul Issroff (<saul@swico.demon.co.uk>London),
Rose Lerer Cohen (<roseron@shani.net> Jerusalem)


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re:Name decree of 1787 #hungary

Dolph Klein <kledolph@...>
 

At 12:01 AM 2/15/1999 -0600, Gyorgy Ujlaki wrote:

Emperor Joseph II issued an order for Jews to take pernament names on July
23,1787. I did a rough translation of the decree. Source: _Bergl Jozsef, A magyarorszagi zsidok tortenete._ Kaposvar 1879. Reprinted Kaposvar, n.d.

3. All heads of households who adopted names for themselves and for
their families, or individual, who adopted names for themselves, must register their surnames and personal names by the last day of November 1787 in German (language) to those town or village authorities, where they live or their residential permit is valid. The registration form does not need stamps, but must be signed by the representative of the district and district or chief rabbi.

5. The registration forms mentioned in 3. must be preserved by the
authorities and during conscription must be handed over to the conscription official, so that these names are recorded, during the first time including the old names, in special books....
Do you know, Gyorgi, or does any one else knows if the registration forms
mentioned in 3. and/or the special books mentioned in 5. exist today?

If they do, where are they likely to be deposited and how can we gain access to them? For example, I have specific interest in the towns and villages of Pozsony and Maramaros Counties. Are these records likely to be stored in the National Szechenjy Library or in the Archives of the Slovak Republic and Romania, respectively?

Dolph Klein
Chapel Hill, NC
USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Lithuanian Holocaust Names Project #general

Dr Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

This announcement describes:

*A Letter to Litvaks about this project
*A fact sheet relating to the project
*The progress of the project
*The formation of the * The Lithuanian Memorial Foundation *
(Keren Zikaron Leyahadur Lita) in Israel



**Lithuanian Names Project** - A letter to Litvaks, February 1999.
Note: The full text of this letter is on The Lithuanian Names Project
Web Site http://www.jewishgen.org/litvak/lithnames.htm

Remembering Lithuanian Shoah Victims: A Research Project

A large project started in November 1997, namely, to collect as many
names as possible of victims of the Lithuanian Holocaust (1941-1945).
The goal is to publish a Memorial book; preserving the memory of the
names of the martyrs for generations to come. It is of utmost
importance to prevent the victims >from being forgotten.

No comprehensive record exists of the names and details of Lithuanian
Jews who were murdered.

The methodology and research resources are described. The main sources
of information are at Yad Vashem, the USHMM, the Vilna Gaon Jewish state
Museum and >from privately submitted names.

A name submission form is attached to the web site. This is a further
appeal for submissions of family names.

The database is outlined, and privacy and copyright guidelines are
described.

Go to the Lithuanian Names Project Web Site
http://www.jewishgen.org/litvak/lithnames.htm for further details.

*Progress:

To date (February 1999) approximately 90,000 names have been collected.
A searchable database has been constructed and entry of individual names
and where possible families continues daily.
Many archival and library resources have been investigated, both in
Lithuania and in the rest of the world. Many relevant contacts have been
made in various institutions.
A number of unusual archival resources have been investigated.
An initial list of six thousand names was given to Yad Vashem (at their
request) for matching against Swiss Bank records.
Approximately 40 press references to the project have been published.

**The Lithuanian Memorial Foundation** (Keren Zikaron Leyahadt Lita) has
been registered as an Amuta (charitable foundation) in Israel.

The objectives are (broadly) to facilitate research, collect and
publish information relating to the Holocaust in Lithuania.

The initial board is:

Rose Lerer Cohen M.A., Holocaust researcher.

Sol Ganor. Author of "Light Two Candles" and other works. Board Member
Yad Vashem.

Joseph Harmatz. Director-General emeritus World Ort, Director General
emeritus and comptroller Israeli Ort. Author of "Beyond the Wings".

Prof. Bernard Lerer. Prof. Experimental Psychiatry, Hebrew University
Jerusalem.


Prof. Dov Levin. Head, Oral History, Department of Contemporary History,
Hebrew University, Jerusalem. Author of "Pinkas HaKehilot Lita".

Rachel Levin. Secretary and Archivist, Association of Lithuanian Jews in
Israel.

Advocate Joseph Melamed. Chairman, Association of Lithuanian Jews in
Israel. Board Member, Centre of Organisations of Holocaust Survivors in
Israel.

*Website.
A website attached to Litvak SIG webpage has been constructed by
webmaster Trevor Tucker.

This consists of :

A letter to Litvaks
A factsheet
A name submission form
Multiple links relating to the Lithuanian Holocaust
References (books and journals) relating to the Lithuanian Holocaust.

See:
Ten Facts about the Lithuanian Holocaust
http://www.jewishgen.org/litvak/10facts.htm

Dr Saul Issroff (<saul@swico.demon.co.uk>London),
Rose Lerer Cohen (<roseron@shani.net> Jerusalem)


Bea, ?, NYC, After 1952 #general

Mervyn Lakin MD <mervl@...>
 

I am looking for Bea ? who was a stockbroker(she recommended an airline
stock to my aunt when the company started air service to Puerto Rico),
Her husband was a dentist who died in a dental chair during a procedure.
This took place in the Eisenhower period(after 1952). Can anyone help with
this description.

Mervyn Lakin MD
Scottsdale, AZ
mervl@home.com


Website for unclaimed assets #general

Marge Dallis <ar614@...>
 

Israel Pickholtz asked about access to names on a list of
unclaimed assets for places other than New York. The National
Assn. of Unclaimed Property Adminstrators has such a site.
You can reach them at http://www.unclaimed.org
Once you get connected, you can click onto the state you wish.
This site has names and addresses.
I am sending this to the entire group, as well as to Israel,
because I feel that this is valuable information for many
of us.
Marge Dallis
Northridge, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Bea, ?, NYC, After 1952 #general

Mervyn Lakin MD <mervl@...>
 

I am looking for Bea ? who was a stockbroker(she recommended an airline
stock to my aunt when the company started air service to Puerto Rico),
Her husband was a dentist who died in a dental chair during a procedure.
This took place in the Eisenhower period(after 1952). Can anyone help with
this description.

Mervyn Lakin MD
Scottsdale, AZ
mervl@home.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Website for unclaimed assets #general

Marge Dallis <ar614@...>
 

Israel Pickholtz asked about access to names on a list of
unclaimed assets for places other than New York. The National
Assn. of Unclaimed Property Adminstrators has such a site.
You can reach them at http://www.unclaimed.org
Once you get connected, you can click onto the state you wish.
This site has names and addresses.
I am sending this to the entire group, as well as to Israel,
because I feel that this is valuable information for many
of us.
Marge Dallis
Northridge, CA


WEB Resources #general

Stephen Mednick <smednick@...>
 

I was doing a search on the WEB for something totally unrelated to genealogy
and one of the hits that came back was for a web site address of
http://home.earthlink.net/~middleton/topten.html which when you go to it
lists itself as being the "Best Genealogy Links on the WWW".

I don't know if anyone else has stumbled across this site but there may be
some value to fellow Jewish Genealogical researchers.

Stephen Mednick
Sydney, Australia
smednick@css.au.com

Researching:
MEDNICK (Kalius,UKR & London,ENG)
SACHS/SACKS (Kalius,UKR & London,ENG)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen WEB Resources #general

Stephen Mednick <smednick@...>
 

I was doing a search on the WEB for something totally unrelated to genealogy
and one of the hits that came back was for a web site address of
http://home.earthlink.net/~middleton/topten.html which when you go to it
lists itself as being the "Best Genealogy Links on the WWW".

I don't know if anyone else has stumbled across this site but there may be
some value to fellow Jewish Genealogical researchers.

Stephen Mednick
Sydney, Australia
smednick@css.au.com

Researching:
MEDNICK (Kalius,UKR & London,ENG)
SACHS/SACKS (Kalius,UKR & London,ENG)


Standards for Family History #general

Herbert Gursky
 

One of the issues over which I have been at variance with my wife and
others in preparing our family history is what information to include,
beyond the usual vital statistics. A recent article in the Washington Post
(Outlook Section, 14 February 1999)relating to the writing of obituaries
reveals the journalist's perspective. E. R. Shipp, the paper's Ombudsman,
writes of the distinction between death notices, which are classified ads,
and obituaries, which are news stories. In particular obituaries may
contain unflattering information such as unpleasant divorces, criminal
activities or other information that could be embarassing to the family but
essential to the journalist.

I believe this is an approach that we can adopt in preparing a family
history. The same article notes that obituaries are among the most popular
sections of a newspaper. Somehow contemplating the lives of others is a
satisfying human experience that we can try to cultivate in trying to
develop an effective human history.

Herbert Gursky
Great Falls, Virginia
gurskyh@erols.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Standards for Family History #general

Herbert Gursky
 

One of the issues over which I have been at variance with my wife and
others in preparing our family history is what information to include,
beyond the usual vital statistics. A recent article in the Washington Post
(Outlook Section, 14 February 1999)relating to the writing of obituaries
reveals the journalist's perspective. E. R. Shipp, the paper's Ombudsman,
writes of the distinction between death notices, which are classified ads,
and obituaries, which are news stories. In particular obituaries may
contain unflattering information such as unpleasant divorces, criminal
activities or other information that could be embarassing to the family but
essential to the journalist.

I believe this is an approach that we can adopt in preparing a family
history. The same article notes that obituaries are among the most popular
sections of a newspaper. Somehow contemplating the lives of others is a
satisfying human experience that we can try to cultivate in trying to
develop an effective human history.

Herbert Gursky
Great Falls, Virginia
gurskyh@erols.com


Re: h-sig digest: February 12, 1999 #hungary

Mehadrin@...
 

In a message dated 2/13/99 6:05:42 AM, h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org writes:

A list of Viennese inhabitants around 1800 shows someone born in RETHE,
Ungarn. Shetlfinders does not show any Rethe. It does show 3 different
towns called Ret. Would appreciate comments on the location, and current name of the Rethe town.
Rethe, (in Hungarian it has an accent over the first e, in Hebrew it is Resh Eyin Tet Hey Eyin) is Reca in present day Slovakia, pre-WW1 Hungary.
Rabbi A Marmorstein
mehadrin@aol.com


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: h-sig digest: February 12, 1999 #hungary

Mehadrin@...
 

In a message dated 2/13/99 6:05:42 AM, h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org writes:

A list of Viennese inhabitants around 1800 shows someone born in RETHE,
Ungarn. Shetlfinders does not show any Rethe. It does show 3 different
towns called Ret. Would appreciate comments on the location, and current name of the Rethe town.
Rethe, (in Hungarian it has an accent over the first e, in Hebrew it is Resh Eyin Tet Hey Eyin) is Reca in present day Slovakia, pre-WW1 Hungary.
Rabbi A Marmorstein
mehadrin@aol.com


PILZNO #galicia

Sharlene Kranz <skranz@...>
 

I am interviewing survivors >from PILZNO, and would also like
to hear >from anyone who has visited PILZNO, a town in eastern
Poland.

Sharlene Kranz in
Washington, D.C.
Reply to: SKranz@CapAccess.org

--
Searching: KRANZ (Pilsno, Poland); ZIMMERMAN (Czeszenow,
Poland); LIPNICK (Goniondz, Poland); FOX (Ivano-
Frankovsk, Ukraine); FECHTER (Bobrka, Ukraine); and
PINCUS (Koidanova, Belarus).


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia PILZNO #galicia

Sharlene Kranz <skranz@...>
 

I am interviewing survivors >from PILZNO, and would also like
to hear >from anyone who has visited PILZNO, a town in eastern
Poland.

Sharlene Kranz in
Washington, D.C.
Reply to: SKranz@CapAccess.org

--
Searching: KRANZ (Pilsno, Poland); ZIMMERMAN (Czeszenow,
Poland); LIPNICK (Goniondz, Poland); FOX (Ivano-
Frankovsk, Ukraine); FECHTER (Bobrka, Ukraine); and
PINCUS (Koidanova, Belarus).


Re: Searching for Gunsler or Gansler #hungary

Lebn@...
 

In a message dated 2/14/99 10:55:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,
pgaras@ozemail.com.au writes:

my Great Grandfather was called
Simon Gunsler born in Lwov or Lemberg in 1833 SHOULD enable
me go somewhere and find a record which can take me further.
Dear Peter:
The birth records >from LWOW >from 1814-1837 are on film # 0905274 , this is a microfilm >from the Family History Library Catalog of the LDS. I believe you are in Australia. You should be able to find the birth of Simon Gansler if you have access to this film? Does anyone have the film on permanent loan in their LDS center to help Peter?

Eleanor Bien


Murska Sobota #hungary

Judith A. Bacskai <jbacskai@...>
 

Dear Denise Larson,
Your notes in October and yesterday prompted me to share my experiences
with searching for records on my maternal grandmother and her family on
Murska Sobota in Slovenia. The town was also called Muraszombat in
Hungarian, and Olsnitz in German. In the FHL microfilm collections I found
the birth records of my grandmother and her 8 siblings, including the early
20th century "hungarisation" annotations of all the males (Neuman changed
to Timar), as well as birth, marriage and death data on THEIR parents and
grandparents. Among other things, I thus discovered that my gggf Simon
Neuman was born in Murska Sobota around 1814, married Netl Rabenstein in
1839, and died there at age 70. >from so much distance in time and space,
that was an almost unreal, very moving experience.
In case it's useful to you or someone else, the microfilm numbers in the
FHL collection for Murska Sobota are:
Jewish records: #642935
Civil records 1868-1918: #1793123
#1793249-1793253,1793262
#1793426-1793427
#1794025-1794026
#1794275-1794277
Send me direct e-mail if anyone needs to know what data are contained on
the individual films.

Regards,
judy
Kensington, California

***************
Researching:
DIAMANT, SCHON, Hungary; FELDMAN, Cegled;
NEUMAN/TIMAR, Murska Sobota, Budapest; SCHON, Mohacs
SINGER, Draz/Drau/Darazs


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Searching for Gunsler or Gansler #hungary

Lebn@...
 

In a message dated 2/14/99 10:55:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,
pgaras@ozemail.com.au writes:

my Great Grandfather was called
Simon Gunsler born in Lwov or Lemberg in 1833 SHOULD enable
me go somewhere and find a record which can take me further.
Dear Peter:
The birth records >from LWOW >from 1814-1837 are on film # 0905274 , this is a microfilm >from the Family History Library Catalog of the LDS. I believe you are in Australia. You should be able to find the birth of Simon Gansler if you have access to this film? Does anyone have the film on permanent loan in their LDS center to help Peter?

Eleanor Bien


Hungary SIG #Hungary Murska Sobota #hungary

Judith A. Bacskai <jbacskai@...>
 

Dear Denise Larson,
Your notes in October and yesterday prompted me to share my experiences
with searching for records on my maternal grandmother and her family on
Murska Sobota in Slovenia. The town was also called Muraszombat in
Hungarian, and Olsnitz in German. In the FHL microfilm collections I found
the birth records of my grandmother and her 8 siblings, including the early
20th century "hungarisation" annotations of all the males (Neuman changed
to Timar), as well as birth, marriage and death data on THEIR parents and
grandparents. Among other things, I thus discovered that my gggf Simon
Neuman was born in Murska Sobota around 1814, married Netl Rabenstein in
1839, and died there at age 70. >from so much distance in time and space,
that was an almost unreal, very moving experience.
In case it's useful to you or someone else, the microfilm numbers in the
FHL collection for Murska Sobota are:
Jewish records: #642935
Civil records 1868-1918: #1793123
#1793249-1793253,1793262
#1793426-1793427
#1794025-1794026
#1794275-1794277
Send me direct e-mail if anyone needs to know what data are contained on
the individual films.

Regards,
judy
Kensington, California

***************
Researching:
DIAMANT, SCHON, Hungary; FELDMAN, Cegled;
NEUMAN/TIMAR, Murska Sobota, Budapest; SCHON, Mohacs
SINGER, Draz/Drau/Darazs