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Harriet Breslow, 1940's #general

joan breslow <webjoan@...>
 

Looking for Harriet Breslow, >from Ct., 1940's. Attended Katherine Gibbs
secretarial school, NY. Friend to Ellie Eger Baker, now in Kansas.
Probably related to Jack Breslow, last living in So. Fla.

Thank you,
Joan
webjoan@earthlink.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Harriet Breslow, 1940's #general

joan breslow <webjoan@...>
 

Looking for Harriet Breslow, >from Ct., 1940's. Attended Katherine Gibbs
secretarial school, NY. Friend to Ellie Eger Baker, now in Kansas.
Probably related to Jack Breslow, last living in So. Fla.

Thank you,
Joan
webjoan@earthlink.net


fyi: Find Your Fugitive Shtetl [Town] #general

Bernard Kouchel <koosh@...>
 

fyi:
This file has been updated.

How To Find Your Fugitive Shtetl [Town]
A JewishGen InfoFile

Find the file via the web:
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/shtetfnd.txt

or via email:
<shtetfnd@mail.jewishgen.org>

mailto:bkouchel@jewishgen.org
Bernard I. Kouchel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen fyi: Find Your Fugitive Shtetl [Town] #general

Bernard Kouchel <koosh@...>
 

fyi:
This file has been updated.

How To Find Your Fugitive Shtetl [Town]
A JewishGen InfoFile

Find the file via the web:
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/shtetfnd.txt

or via email:
<shtetfnd@mail.jewishgen.org>

mailto:bkouchel@jewishgen.org
Bernard I. Kouchel


POURPLE from Holland #general

Jozef Jacobs <jacobsjo@...>
 

At 00:14 9-02-99 -0600, you wrote:
Trying to trace Surname POURPLE >from Holland. I know some relations born
in Rotterdam. Any help appreciated
Howard Lerner
It is rather unlikely that before WWII there have lived Jewish families
"POURPLE" in The Netherlands. The name is absent in our book "In Memoriam"
that lists all of the 100,000 victims of the Holocaust >from Holland and
therefore contains virtually all of the Jewish surnames >from before WWII.
How sure are you about the spelling of this name?

Jozef Jacobs

Hummelo (NL)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen POURPLE from Holland #general

Jozef Jacobs <jacobsjo@...>
 

At 00:14 9-02-99 -0600, you wrote:
Trying to trace Surname POURPLE >from Holland. I know some relations born
in Rotterdam. Any help appreciated
Howard Lerner
It is rather unlikely that before WWII there have lived Jewish families
"POURPLE" in The Netherlands. The name is absent in our book "In Memoriam"
that lists all of the 100,000 victims of the Holocaust >from Holland and
therefore contains virtually all of the Jewish surnames >from before WWII.
How sure are you about the spelling of this name?

Jozef Jacobs

Hummelo (NL)


Baal Shem Tov #general

molly gordy <mgordy@...>
 

There are many messages in the JGen archives, ca 1995, about a work in
progress tracing the Baal Shem Tov's descendents. I tried messaging the
authors, Mark Tedeschi and David Chapin, but their email addresses have
changed. Does anyone know if the geneology was ever published, and if so,
how/where I can access it?

Molly Gordy, NYC

SEARCHING: GORODETSKY (HORODEZKY) of Berdichev, Malin, Novograd-Volinsk Tel
Aviv and Zhitomir.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Baal Shem Tov #general

molly gordy <mgordy@...>
 

There are many messages in the JGen archives, ca 1995, about a work in
progress tracing the Baal Shem Tov's descendents. I tried messaging the
authors, Mark Tedeschi and David Chapin, but their email addresses have
changed. Does anyone know if the geneology was ever published, and if so,
how/where I can access it?

Molly Gordy, NYC

SEARCHING: GORODETSKY (HORODEZKY) of Berdichev, Malin, Novograd-Volinsk Tel
Aviv and Zhitomir.


Congregation Ohav Shalom in Manhattan #general

Michelle Fanwick <fanwick@...>
 

Hi,
My grandparents used to belong to:
Congregation Ohav Shalom in Inwood
it's located at: 4724 Broadway in Inwood (New York City)

I remember going their as a child and wonder what has become of the
congregation. I also would like to check and see if they have any
information regarding my grandparents, Erna and Justin KUHL. I recently
drove past it and was told by a passing lady that it is almost defunct.

If anyone could be of help I would be most appreciative.

Michelle B. Tichauer Fanwick
Norwalk, Connecticut


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Congregation Ohav Shalom in Manhattan #general

Michelle Fanwick <fanwick@...>
 

Hi,
My grandparents used to belong to:
Congregation Ohav Shalom in Inwood
it's located at: 4724 Broadway in Inwood (New York City)

I remember going their as a child and wonder what has become of the
congregation. I also would like to check and see if they have any
information regarding my grandparents, Erna and Justin KUHL. I recently
drove past it and was told by a passing lady that it is almost defunct.

If anyone could be of help I would be most appreciative.

Michelle B. Tichauer Fanwick
Norwalk, Connecticut


Index to Passenger Arrivals- New York - 1900 #general

The Holeywell's <holeywel@...>
 

After many years of looking, I think I have finally found the microfilmed
card with information concerning the arrival of my grandmother Sophie
GREENBERG (misspelled as "Grunberg" on the card). My problem is that the
information on the card is so light, as to be barely legible. I was able to
decipher her origination point as "Roman, Romania," as well as the fact that
she was travelling with a "Sabina, Annie, and S?????". All this information
matches my family. However, the information on the rest of the card,
including the all-important date they arrived and on what ship is totally
unavailable. (On th 1920 Census, she reported arriving in 1900).

My question is do those original cards themselves, the ones >from which the
microfilm copies were made, still actually exist, and if so, to whom could I
write, asking that a search for that card and that information be made? If
the cards are no longer in existence, could someone suggest another source
of finding the information contained on the card.

BTW, I searched the 1900 US Census for my grandma, looking under
"Greenberg," "Grunberg," and "Gruenberg" and was unable to find the family,
leading me to assume that they arrived after June, 1900, the date of the
census.

In addition, after staring at the card, using yellow paper, magnifying
glasses, etc. I was able to make out some of the letters of the name of the
ship. They appear to be (note: ? after letter means a guess, X means
illegible, /indicates certainty):
W?O?O?R?XL/A/N/D/ Woordland? Vaardland
Z?O?O?N?XL/A/N/D/ Zoonland? Zeeland?
N?E?E?XL/A/N/D/ Needland?

Any guess for the name of the ship? The Morton Allan Directory is no longer
at my library; someone stole it, and they estimate it will take a few months
until another hits the shelves!

Please reply privately, as this is probably of limited interest. Thanks for
any help.

Jane Wechsler-Holeywell
Houston, TX


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Index to Passenger Arrivals- New York - 1900 #general

The Holeywell's <holeywel@...>
 

After many years of looking, I think I have finally found the microfilmed
card with information concerning the arrival of my grandmother Sophie
GREENBERG (misspelled as "Grunberg" on the card). My problem is that the
information on the card is so light, as to be barely legible. I was able to
decipher her origination point as "Roman, Romania," as well as the fact that
she was travelling with a "Sabina, Annie, and S?????". All this information
matches my family. However, the information on the rest of the card,
including the all-important date they arrived and on what ship is totally
unavailable. (On th 1920 Census, she reported arriving in 1900).

My question is do those original cards themselves, the ones >from which the
microfilm copies were made, still actually exist, and if so, to whom could I
write, asking that a search for that card and that information be made? If
the cards are no longer in existence, could someone suggest another source
of finding the information contained on the card.

BTW, I searched the 1900 US Census for my grandma, looking under
"Greenberg," "Grunberg," and "Gruenberg" and was unable to find the family,
leading me to assume that they arrived after June, 1900, the date of the
census.

In addition, after staring at the card, using yellow paper, magnifying
glasses, etc. I was able to make out some of the letters of the name of the
ship. They appear to be (note: ? after letter means a guess, X means
illegible, /indicates certainty):
W?O?O?R?XL/A/N/D/ Woordland? Vaardland
Z?O?O?N?XL/A/N/D/ Zoonland? Zeeland?
N?E?E?XL/A/N/D/ Needland?

Any guess for the name of the ship? The Morton Allan Directory is no longer
at my library; someone stole it, and they estimate it will take a few months
until another hits the shelves!

Please reply privately, as this is probably of limited interest. Thanks for
any help.

Jane Wechsler-Holeywell
Houston, TX


Re: researching the rabbi in your family's past #general

Jonina Duker <jonina.duker@...>
 

There are many sources depending on who the rabbi was and whether he
wrote anything. In terms of "who" the place to start is the Hebrew
reference work Otzer Harabanim (20,000 rabbis >from 970 to 1970, lots of
indexes, etc.) There are also reference books for Chasidic rabbis
(haven't used, my background Misnagid) and Galician rabbis (again,
haven't used, my background is Litvak). If by chance your ancestor
connects to Katzenellenbogens and such, do not forget the Neil Rosenstein
English book, The Unbroken Chain. In terms of whether the rabbi
published anything I have used Bet Eked Sepharim with great success. (in
Hebrew, reference work with rabbis' books published between 1474 to
1950.) Finding publications is particularly good because often there is
genealogical information in the beginning about the author. Remember the
Jewish emphasis on books and how that connects to names on occasion:
sometimes an influential work becams the name under which we know the
rabbi (for example Chofetz Chayim was the name of the rabbi's most noted
work and not his actual name); also, sometimes that book name actually
became the surname of descendants (for example one of my teachers, last
name Shore, is a descendant of B'chor Shor). Don't forget Encyclopaedia
Judaica and make sure you use the index in case the rabbi for whom you
search doesn't have an entry under his own name but is elsewhere
discussed in other entries (so an alphabetical-type dictionary-look-up
would miss the valuable information ... index is essential for EJ).
There may well be lists of rabbis maintained historically within the holy
land but this is a conjecture; I have not had occasion to research a
rabbi in Israel yet.
Jonina Duker


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: researching the rabbi in your family's past #general

Jonina Duker <jonina.duker@...>
 

There are many sources depending on who the rabbi was and whether he
wrote anything. In terms of "who" the place to start is the Hebrew
reference work Otzer Harabanim (20,000 rabbis >from 970 to 1970, lots of
indexes, etc.) There are also reference books for Chasidic rabbis
(haven't used, my background Misnagid) and Galician rabbis (again,
haven't used, my background is Litvak). If by chance your ancestor
connects to Katzenellenbogens and such, do not forget the Neil Rosenstein
English book, The Unbroken Chain. In terms of whether the rabbi
published anything I have used Bet Eked Sepharim with great success. (in
Hebrew, reference work with rabbis' books published between 1474 to
1950.) Finding publications is particularly good because often there is
genealogical information in the beginning about the author. Remember the
Jewish emphasis on books and how that connects to names on occasion:
sometimes an influential work becams the name under which we know the
rabbi (for example Chofetz Chayim was the name of the rabbi's most noted
work and not his actual name); also, sometimes that book name actually
became the surname of descendants (for example one of my teachers, last
name Shore, is a descendant of B'chor Shor). Don't forget Encyclopaedia
Judaica and make sure you use the index in case the rabbi for whom you
search doesn't have an entry under his own name but is elsewhere
discussed in other entries (so an alphabetical-type dictionary-look-up
would miss the valuable information ... index is essential for EJ).
There may well be lists of rabbis maintained historically within the holy
land but this is a conjecture; I have not had occasion to research a
rabbi in Israel yet.
Jonina Duker


Re: Avoiding Czar's military conscription, sons with different names #general

Jonina Duker <jonina.duker@...>
 

The practice of using different surnames for subsequent sons to avoid
those sons being drafted into the Czar's army was wide-spread and is well
documented in many source books. What should be kept in mind is that the
surnames used for the subsequent sons would have been used by permission
of the family into which the sons were being registered -- so there must
have been some kind of connection, familial or otherwise, that made the
arrangement possible. So don't just dismiss these "other" surnames --
these surnames hold valuable clues to extended family, in-laws,
neighbors, potential in-laws, who knows what? Jonina Duker


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Avoiding Czar's military conscription, sons with different names #general

Jonina Duker <jonina.duker@...>
 

The practice of using different surnames for subsequent sons to avoid
those sons being drafted into the Czar's army was wide-spread and is well
documented in many source books. What should be kept in mind is that the
surnames used for the subsequent sons would have been used by permission
of the family into which the sons were being registered -- so there must
have been some kind of connection, familial or otherwise, that made the
arrangement possible. So don't just dismiss these "other" surnames --
these surnames hold valuable clues to extended family, in-laws,
neighbors, potential in-laws, who knows what? Jonina Duker


Re: Names - Czarist Russia #general

Janet Reagan <sapres@...>
 

My ggf, >from Eishyshok, was born Asher to Pesach Dov NELKEN in 1838. He
took his mother-in-law's maiden name, YURKANSKI, for the same reason: to
appear to be the only son of a family. We, his descendants, all know the
story and have been able to maintain contact with our branch. However, his
brothers and their families are lost to us, as we do not know which names
each adopted. The only reason that we _do_ know there were other sons is
because of that tradition!
I have just purchased the book that you referred to, and hope to find some
answers there.

At 02:38 PM 2/17/99 GMT, Leonard Nadler wrote:
A recent book contained the information about a practice regarding the
naming of sons in Czarist Russia. Under the laws at that time, a son was
excused >from military service if he was an 'only son'. Therefore, some
Jewish families would list sons, after the first, with different parents -
different family names. This way, they could avoid service.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Names - Czarist Russia #general

Janet Reagan <sapres@...>
 

My ggf, >from Eishyshok, was born Asher to Pesach Dov NELKEN in 1838. He
took his mother-in-law's maiden name, YURKANSKI, for the same reason: to
appear to be the only son of a family. We, his descendants, all know the
story and have been able to maintain contact with our branch. However, his
brothers and their families are lost to us, as we do not know which names
each adopted. The only reason that we _do_ know there were other sons is
because of that tradition!
I have just purchased the book that you referred to, and hope to find some
answers there.

At 02:38 PM 2/17/99 GMT, Leonard Nadler wrote:
A recent book contained the information about a practice regarding the
naming of sons in Czarist Russia. Under the laws at that time, a son was
excused >from military service if he was an 'only son'. Therefore, some
Jewish families would list sons, after the first, with different parents -
different family names. This way, they could avoid service.


Re: Once again, the myth of name changes #galicia

Wildpom@...
 

In my previous message, I had specific questions all pertaining to the
procedures for obtaining a passport in Galicia 100 years ago.

My statement was; "we are all familiar with the stories about name
changes"...

As for the question, it dealt specifically with name changes taking place
in Galicia and what legal procedures took place (if required) during that
period in history?

Michele V. Pomerantz
Secaucus, NJ
Wildpom@aol.com

MODERATOR NOTE: If anyone has any information about name changes and/or
legal procedures that took place in Galicia, please share it with this
forum.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Once again, the myth of name changes #galicia

Wildpom@...
 

In my previous message, I had specific questions all pertaining to the
procedures for obtaining a passport in Galicia 100 years ago.

My statement was; "we are all familiar with the stories about name
changes"...

As for the question, it dealt specifically with name changes taking place
in Galicia and what legal procedures took place (if required) during that
period in history?

Michele V. Pomerantz
Secaucus, NJ
Wildpom@aol.com

MODERATOR NOTE: If anyone has any information about name changes and/or
legal procedures that took place in Galicia, please share it with this
forum.