Date   

All Lithuania database #lithuania

Howard Margol
 

I was asked a question about the ALD which I am not in a position to answer. I
decided to post the question on the Digest since the answer could be of
interest to many others.

Question; When the ALD is finalized, and available on the web, will the
capability be there to see an entire revision list as such or, can only names
be searched. If one is capable of looking at an entire record, they may be
able to find previously unknown ancestors.

Howard Margol
Atlanta, Georgia


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania All Lithuania database #lithuania

Howard Margol
 

I was asked a question about the ALD which I am not in a position to answer. I
decided to post the question on the Digest since the answer could be of
interest to many others.

Question; When the ALD is finalized, and available on the web, will the
capability be there to see an entire revision list as such or, can only names
be searched. If one is capable of looking at an entire record, they may be
able to find previously unknown ancestors.

Howard Margol
Atlanta, Georgia


Re: Kinnuim #lithuania

Barry Spinak <punim@...>
 

Larry,
Your list of kinnuim is interesting. My GGF's name was thought to be
"Schriga Faivel" but, according to your list, those two names describe the
same name.
One question - what exactly is a "candle name" ??

Barry Spinak


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania RE: Kinnuim #lithuania

Barry Spinak <punim@...>
 

Larry,
Your list of kinnuim is interesting. My GGF's name was thought to be
"Schriga Faivel" but, according to your list, those two names describe the
same name.
One question - what exactly is a "candle name" ??

Barry Spinak


Slawatycze #general

Henry Gitelman <mperl@...>
 

Re: Linda Wilkins searching "Slavintich" and "Ciedlce", Poland
Linda must be refering to my birth Shtetl "Slawatycze" which is located
on the Polish side of the Bug River between Wlodawa and Koden. Siedlce
(not Ciedlce)is a town on the E30 highway between Warsaw and BialaPodlaska.
A lot of info can be found on these two Shtlach on JewishGen and other
search engines.
Last october I visited Slawatycze and would be happy to communicate with
anyone seeking information on my Shtetl Slawatycze.

Seeking my maternal family: RYBKOWSKI, RIBKOWSKI, REPKOWSKI, RAPKOWSKI
who are Kohanim and also seeking SWIATLOSC, and PALUCH, all >from the
Wlodawa, Slawatycze,
Hanna and Domachevo area.

Henry Gitelman,
Montreal, Canada
<mperl@dawsoncollege.qc.ca>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Slawatycze #general

Henry Gitelman <mperl@...>
 

Re: Linda Wilkins searching "Slavintich" and "Ciedlce", Poland
Linda must be refering to my birth Shtetl "Slawatycze" which is located
on the Polish side of the Bug River between Wlodawa and Koden. Siedlce
(not Ciedlce)is a town on the E30 highway between Warsaw and BialaPodlaska.
A lot of info can be found on these two Shtlach on JewishGen and other
search engines.
Last october I visited Slawatycze and would be happy to communicate with
anyone seeking information on my Shtetl Slawatycze.

Seeking my maternal family: RYBKOWSKI, RIBKOWSKI, REPKOWSKI, RAPKOWSKI
who are Kohanim and also seeking SWIATLOSC, and PALUCH, all >from the
Wlodawa, Slawatycze,
Hanna and Domachevo area.

Henry Gitelman,
Montreal, Canada
<mperl@dawsoncollege.qc.ca>


RAGAS #general

Theo Travis <travis@...>
 

Has anyone used RAGAS for research in Ukraine?
If so, would you recommend them?

Please respond privately.

Madelyn Travis
travis@travis33.demon.co.uk


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RAGAS #general

Theo Travis <travis@...>
 

Has anyone used RAGAS for research in Ukraine?
If so, would you recommend them?

Please respond privately.

Madelyn Travis
travis@travis33.demon.co.uk


Edward Moshein, are you there? #general

MMBegun@...
 

Sorry to bother other readers, but I've had no luck reaching Edward Moshein
in Costa Rica at the e-mail address I was using a few weeks ago.

Edward, if you're out there, please e-mail me at MMBegun@aol.com. I tried
to contact you while I was in Costa Rica, with no luck.

Mila Begun in New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Edward Moshein, are you there? #general

MMBegun@...
 

Sorry to bother other readers, but I've had no luck reaching Edward Moshein
in Costa Rica at the e-mail address I was using a few weeks ago.

Edward, if you're out there, please e-mail me at MMBegun@aol.com. I tried
to contact you while I was in Costa Rica, with no luck.

Mila Begun in New York


Re: Astronauts #lithuania

A.W.Cassel <awcassel@...>
 

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

------=_NextPart_000_0056_01BE5CBD.49748560
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Monty:

You've cleared up a mystery. I obtained a translation of that sport =
article a few months back, and was equally intrigued about the Alan Bean =
connection. I tried for days to find some biographical material on Bean, =
but couldn't find anything that definitively traced his ancestry. I even =
asked Paula Baker, one of our Keidan members who lives Houston (her =
grandfather was B.G. Richards, the journalist and Jewish activist who =
became famous as "Keidansky") to try and contact Bean directly. Now we =
know it was an error, although it makes you wonder how the myth =
started...

By the way, if you're interested in translating more Yizkor Book =
articles, it would be of great interest to the group, I'm sure. I've =
been working with a splendid fellow in Israel, Chaim Charutz, who has =
translated a dozen or so of the pieces gratis; however, there's lots =
more to be done. We could put them up on the Keidan web site, or just =
distribute them to the group ...=20

Be well.

Andy=20

=20

-----Original Message-----
From: Monty Starr <monty@mstarr.freeserve.co.uk>
To: Keidan SIG <keidan@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Date: Saturday, February 20, 1999 7:43 AM
Subject: Astronauts


There are one or two amusing articles in the yizkor book but how =
about this?
At the top of page 76 in an article about sport in Keidan I =
translate
"The B-team comprised Yacov Damertsky, Y. Shteinbeck,Ch. Bein and =
others(by the way the son of Chaim Bein is the astronaut Alan Bean who =
participated in the Apollo programme and was one of those that walked on =
the moon)."
By chance a few weeks after reading this the Jewish National Fund =
held a function here in Birmingham and they brought with them as an =
attraction the astro physicist Dr. Jeffrey Hoffman who had been involved =
in the space walk to repair the Hubble telescope. I got into =
conversation with him and asked if he knew Alan Bean. He told me that =
Alan had great artistic talent and had become a professional artist and =
Jeffrey had commissioned him to do a painting. I said to him " would you =
be surprised to know that Alan's father came >from the same Lithuanian =
shtetl as my parents". Surprised, he said, I would be amazed!
He then asked me to send to him at Houston a copy of the article and =
details of the publishers, which I duly did. I set out below his =
response.
FROM: JEFFREY HOFFMAN
NASA-JSC-CB
=20
I spoke today with Alan Bean. He tells me that his ancestors came =
from Scotland. John MacBean was on the wrong side of the war against =
Cromwell and was deported to New Hampshire as an indentured servant with =
a term of 7 years. On the ship's manifest, the "Mac" was dropped >from =
his name, and the family became Bean. After 1 year,he married the =
daughter of the owner of the farm, to whom he had been indentured. So =
instead of being a servant for 7 years he ended up inheriting the farm. =
Alan's father was Arnold Bean and grew up in New Hampshire. So perhaps =
the article you sent me was, indeed, a "Purim Spiel". In any case, it =
provided a nice excuse to talk to Alan Bean and learn the story of his =
family. Maybe you can pass this information on to somebody >from the =
Keidan society.
=20
I did in fact send a fact send a fax to Kibbutz Beit Zera which has =
the book in its Keidan archive. I also replied to Hoffman:
Between the years 1600-1640 Calvinists in Scotland were persecuted =
and a number of them settled in Keidan so there might yet have "been" a =
Macbean in that town.
=20
Monty Starr

------=_NextPart_000_0056_01BE5CBD.49748560
Content-Type: text/html;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN">
<HTML>
<HEAD>

<META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 =
http-equiv=3DContent-Type><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 =
HTML//EN">
<META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=3DGENERATOR>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>Monty:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You've cleared up a mystery. I obtained =
a=20
translation of that sport article a few months back, and was equally =
intrigued=20
about the Alan Bean connection. I tried for days to find some =
biographical=20
material on Bean, but couldn't find anything that definitively traced =
his=20
ancestry. I even asked Paula Baker, one of our Keidan members who lives =
Houston=20
(her grandfather was B.G. Richards, the journalist and Jewish activist =
who=20
became famous as &quot;Keidansky&quot;) to try and contact Bean =
directly. Now we=20
know it was an error, although it makes you wonder how the myth=20
started...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>By the way, if you're interested in =
translating=20
more Yizkor Book&nbsp; articles, it would be of great interest to the =
group, I'm=20
sure. I've been working with a splendid fellow in Israel, Chaim Charutz, =
who has=20
translated a dozen or so of the pieces gratis; however, there's lots =
more to be=20
done.&nbsp; We could put them up on the Keidan web site, or just =
distribute them=20
to the group ... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Be well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Andy </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><B></B></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B></B></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B></B></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original =
Message-----</B><BR><B>From:=20
</B>Monty Starr &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:monty@mstarr.freeserve.co.uk">monty@mstarr.freeserve.co.uk=
</A>&gt;<BR><B>To:=20
</B>Keidan SIG &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:keidan@lyris.jewishgen.org">keidan@lyris.jewishgen.org</A>=
&gt;<BR><B>Date:=20
</B>Saturday, February 20, 1999 7:43 AM<BR><B>Subject:=20
</B>Astronauts<BR><BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: =
5px"></FONT>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3>There are one or two amusing=20
articles</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D3><FONT color=3D#000000=20
face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"> in the yizkor =
book but how=20
about this?</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3>At the top of page 76 in an =
article about=20
sport in Keidan I translate</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT =
size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3>&quot;The B-team comprised =
Yacov=20
Damertsky, Y. Shteinbeck,Ch. Bein and others(by the way the son of =
Chaim=20
Bein is the astronaut Alan Bean who participated in the Apollo =
programme and=20
was one of those that walked on the =
moon).&quot;</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3>By chance a few weeks after =
reading this=20
the Jewish National Fund held a function here in Birmingham and they =
brought=20
with them as an attraction the astro physicist Dr. Jeffrey Hoffman =
who had=20
been involved in the space walk to repair the Hubble telescope. I =
got into=20
conversation with him and asked if he knew Alan Bean. He told me =
that Alan=20
had great artistic talent and had become a professional artist and =
Jeffrey=20
had commissioned him to do a painting. I said to him &quot; would =
you be=20
surprised to know that Alan's father came >from the same Lithuanian =
shtetl as=20
my parents&quot;. Surprised, he said, I would be=20
amazed!</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3>He then asked me to send to =
him at Houston=20
a copy of the article and details of the publishers, which I duly =
did. I set=20
out below his response.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT =
size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3>FROM: JEFFREY=20
HOFFMAN</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT =
size=3D3>NASA-JSC-CB</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
size=3D3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3>I spoke today with Alan Bean. =
He tells me=20
that his ancestors came >from Scotland. John MacBean was on the wrong =
side of=20
the war against Cromwell and was deported to New Hampshire as an =
indentured=20
servant with a term of 7 years. On the ship's manifest, the =
&quot;Mac&quot;=20
was dropped >from his name, and the family became Bean. After 1 =
year,he=20
married the daughter of the owner of the farm, to whom he had been=20
indentured. So instead of being a servant for 7 years he ended up =
inheriting=20
the farm. Alan's father was Arnold Bean and grew up in New =
Hampshire. So=20
perhaps the article you sent me was, indeed, a &quot;Purim =
Spiel&quot;. In=20
any case, it provided a nice excuse to talk to Alan Bean and learn =
the story=20
of his family. Maybe you can pass this information on to somebody =
from the=20
Keidan society.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
size=3D3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3>I did in fact send a fact send =
a fax to=20
Kibbutz Beit Zera which has the book in its Keidan archive. I also =
replied=20
to Hoffman:</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3>Between the years 1600-1640 =
Calvinists in=20
Scotland were persecuted and a number of them settled in Keidan so =
there=20
might yet have &quot;been&quot; a Macbean in that=20
town.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
size=3D3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic" size=3D3>Monty=20
Starr</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

------=_NextPart_000_0056_01BE5CBD.49748560--


Keidan Jews #Keidan #Lithuania Re: Astronauts #lithuania

A.W.Cassel <awcassel@...>
 

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

------=_NextPart_000_0056_01BE5CBD.49748560
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Monty:

You've cleared up a mystery. I obtained a translation of that sport =
article a few months back, and was equally intrigued about the Alan Bean =
connection. I tried for days to find some biographical material on Bean, =
but couldn't find anything that definitively traced his ancestry. I even =
asked Paula Baker, one of our Keidan members who lives Houston (her =
grandfather was B.G. Richards, the journalist and Jewish activist who =
became famous as "Keidansky") to try and contact Bean directly. Now we =
know it was an error, although it makes you wonder how the myth =
started...

By the way, if you're interested in translating more Yizkor Book =
articles, it would be of great interest to the group, I'm sure. I've =
been working with a splendid fellow in Israel, Chaim Charutz, who has =
translated a dozen or so of the pieces gratis; however, there's lots =
more to be done. We could put them up on the Keidan web site, or just =
distribute them to the group ...=20

Be well.

Andy=20

=20

-----Original Message-----
From: Monty Starr <monty@mstarr.freeserve.co.uk>
To: Keidan SIG <keidan@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Date: Saturday, February 20, 1999 7:43 AM
Subject: Astronauts


There are one or two amusing articles in the yizkor book but how =
about this?
At the top of page 76 in an article about sport in Keidan I =
translate
"The B-team comprised Yacov Damertsky, Y. Shteinbeck,Ch. Bein and =
others(by the way the son of Chaim Bein is the astronaut Alan Bean who =
participated in the Apollo programme and was one of those that walked on =
the moon)."
By chance a few weeks after reading this the Jewish National Fund =
held a function here in Birmingham and they brought with them as an =
attraction the astro physicist Dr. Jeffrey Hoffman who had been involved =
in the space walk to repair the Hubble telescope. I got into =
conversation with him and asked if he knew Alan Bean. He told me that =
Alan had great artistic talent and had become a professional artist and =
Jeffrey had commissioned him to do a painting. I said to him " would you =
be surprised to know that Alan's father came >from the same Lithuanian =
shtetl as my parents". Surprised, he said, I would be amazed!
He then asked me to send to him at Houston a copy of the article and =
details of the publishers, which I duly did. I set out below his =
response.
FROM: JEFFREY HOFFMAN
NASA-JSC-CB
=20
I spoke today with Alan Bean. He tells me that his ancestors came =
from Scotland. John MacBean was on the wrong side of the war against =
Cromwell and was deported to New Hampshire as an indentured servant with =
a term of 7 years. On the ship's manifest, the "Mac" was dropped >from =
his name, and the family became Bean. After 1 year,he married the =
daughter of the owner of the farm, to whom he had been indentured. So =
instead of being a servant for 7 years he ended up inheriting the farm. =
Alan's father was Arnold Bean and grew up in New Hampshire. So perhaps =
the article you sent me was, indeed, a "Purim Spiel". In any case, it =
provided a nice excuse to talk to Alan Bean and learn the story of his =
family. Maybe you can pass this information on to somebody >from the =
Keidan society.
=20
I did in fact send a fact send a fax to Kibbutz Beit Zera which has =
the book in its Keidan archive. I also replied to Hoffman:
Between the years 1600-1640 Calvinists in Scotland were persecuted =
and a number of them settled in Keidan so there might yet have "been" a =
Macbean in that town.
=20
Monty Starr

------=_NextPart_000_0056_01BE5CBD.49748560
Content-Type: text/html;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN">
<HTML>
<HEAD>

<META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 =
http-equiv=3DContent-Type><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 =
HTML//EN">
<META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=3DGENERATOR>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>Monty:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You've cleared up a mystery. I obtained =
a=20
translation of that sport article a few months back, and was equally =
intrigued=20
about the Alan Bean connection. I tried for days to find some =
biographical=20
material on Bean, but couldn't find anything that definitively traced =
his=20
ancestry. I even asked Paula Baker, one of our Keidan members who lives =
Houston=20
(her grandfather was B.G. Richards, the journalist and Jewish activist =
who=20
became famous as &quot;Keidansky&quot;) to try and contact Bean =
directly. Now we=20
know it was an error, although it makes you wonder how the myth=20
started...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>By the way, if you're interested in =
translating=20
more Yizkor Book&nbsp; articles, it would be of great interest to the =
group, I'm=20
sure. I've been working with a splendid fellow in Israel, Chaim Charutz, =
who has=20
translated a dozen or so of the pieces gratis; however, there's lots =
more to be=20
done.&nbsp; We could put them up on the Keidan web site, or just =
distribute them=20
to the group ... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Be well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Andy </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><B></B></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B></B></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B></B></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original =
Message-----</B><BR><B>From:=20
</B>Monty Starr &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:monty@mstarr.freeserve.co.uk">monty@mstarr.freeserve.co.uk=
</A>&gt;<BR><B>To:=20
</B>Keidan SIG &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:keidan@lyris.jewishgen.org">keidan@lyris.jewishgen.org</A>=
&gt;<BR><B>Date:=20
</B>Saturday, February 20, 1999 7:43 AM<BR><B>Subject:=20
</B>Astronauts<BR><BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: =
5px"></FONT>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3>There are one or two amusing=20
articles</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D3><FONT color=3D#000000=20
face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"> in the yizkor =
book but how=20
about this?</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3>At the top of page 76 in an =
article about=20
sport in Keidan I translate</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT =
size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3>&quot;The B-team comprised =
Yacov=20
Damertsky, Y. Shteinbeck,Ch. Bein and others(by the way the son of =
Chaim=20
Bein is the astronaut Alan Bean who participated in the Apollo =
programme and=20
was one of those that walked on the =
moon).&quot;</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3>By chance a few weeks after =
reading this=20
the Jewish National Fund held a function here in Birmingham and they =
brought=20
with them as an attraction the astro physicist Dr. Jeffrey Hoffman =
who had=20
been involved in the space walk to repair the Hubble telescope. I =
got into=20
conversation with him and asked if he knew Alan Bean. He told me =
that Alan=20
had great artistic talent and had become a professional artist and =
Jeffrey=20
had commissioned him to do a painting. I said to him &quot; would =
you be=20
surprised to know that Alan's father came >from the same Lithuanian =
shtetl as=20
my parents&quot;. Surprised, he said, I would be=20
amazed!</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3>He then asked me to send to =
him at Houston=20
a copy of the article and details of the publishers, which I duly =
did. I set=20
out below his response.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT =
size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3>FROM: JEFFREY=20
HOFFMAN</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT =
size=3D3>NASA-JSC-CB</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
size=3D3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3>I spoke today with Alan Bean. =
He tells me=20
that his ancestors came >from Scotland. John MacBean was on the wrong =
side of=20
the war against Cromwell and was deported to New Hampshire as an =
indentured=20
servant with a term of 7 years. On the ship's manifest, the =
&quot;Mac&quot;=20
was dropped >from his name, and the family became Bean. After 1 =
year,he=20
married the daughter of the owner of the farm, to whom he had been=20
indentured. So instead of being a servant for 7 years he ended up =
inheriting=20
the farm. Alan's father was Arnold Bean and grew up in New =
Hampshire. So=20
perhaps the article you sent me was, indeed, a &quot;Purim =
Spiel&quot;. In=20
any case, it provided a nice excuse to talk to Alan Bean and learn =
the story=20
of his family. Maybe you can pass this information on to somebody =
from the=20
Keidan society.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
size=3D3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3>I did in fact send a fact send =
a fax to=20
Kibbutz Beit Zera which has the book in its Keidan archive. I also =
replied=20
to Hoffman:</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3>Between the years 1600-1640 =
Calvinists in=20
Scotland were persecuted and a number of them settled in Keidan so =
there=20
might yet have &quot;been&quot; a Macbean in that=20
town.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT size=3D3></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic"><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D3></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
size=3D3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Century Gothic" size=3D3>Monty=20
Starr</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

------=_NextPart_000_0056_01BE5CBD.49748560--


Re: Minnesota Jewish Genealogical Society? #general

Mike Posnick
 

To Herb Weisberg and the JewishGen list:

There presently is not a Jewish genealogy society in Minnesota, although
some of us have been attempting to organize one. If anyone is interested
in helping to organize one or belonging to one, please contact me.

In the meantime, I will try to answer questions that anyone has relating
to the Jewish communities that exist(ed) in Minnesota, the Dakotas,
western Wisconsin, and northeastern Iowa, and the individuals, families,
and organizations that compose(d) these communities. (I am a Minneapolis
native and resident with family roots in Wisconsin and Iowa.)

Mike Posnick
Minneapolis, Minnesota
e-mail: mpoz@earthlink.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Minnesota Jewish Genealogical Society? #general

Mike Posnick
 

To Herb Weisberg and the JewishGen list:

There presently is not a Jewish genealogy society in Minnesota, although
some of us have been attempting to organize one. If anyone is interested
in helping to organize one or belonging to one, please contact me.

In the meantime, I will try to answer questions that anyone has relating
to the Jewish communities that exist(ed) in Minnesota, the Dakotas,
western Wisconsin, and northeastern Iowa, and the individuals, families,
and organizations that compose(d) these communities. (I am a Minneapolis
native and resident with family roots in Wisconsin and Iowa.)

Mike Posnick
Minneapolis, Minnesota
e-mail: mpoz@earthlink.net


french Deporatations to Lithuania #general

Dr Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

Subject: Re: deportation of Jews >from France
bettejoy@aol.com (BetteJoy)wrote:

Most of the French Jews were sent to Auschwitz where they perished.
Others >from the south of France were also sent to Vilna, Lithuania
where they were imprisoned in the primitive Ninth Fort until their
murder in the nearby forests.
This reply is partially incorrect. The last transport >from Drancy, no
73, in May 1944 (note the date) had 878 Jews taken to Lithuania. Most
were killed in the 9th Fort, Kovno (not Vilna). Some were taken to a
labor camp at Pravienskis and killed there, others were taken to Estonia
to be murdered. There were two survivors >from the 9th Fort, but overall
twenty survivors.

"In Pravieniskes in summer of 1944 were murdered 270 people, without
mentioning nationality or gender. {1941. IX. 4 were killed 253 men and
women} (vol. II, p. 393) >from Documents Accuse. "

For further information on the Lithuanian Shoah see

*Lithuanian Names Project - A letter to Litvaks, February 1999.
Note: The full text of this letter is on The Lithuanian Names Project
Web Site http://www.jewishgen.org/litvak/lithnames.htm

Dr Saul Issroff


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen french Deporatations to Lithuania #general

Dr Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

Subject: Re: deportation of Jews >from France
bettejoy@aol.com (BetteJoy)wrote:

Most of the French Jews were sent to Auschwitz where they perished.
Others >from the south of France were also sent to Vilna, Lithuania
where they were imprisoned in the primitive Ninth Fort until their
murder in the nearby forests.
This reply is partially incorrect. The last transport >from Drancy, no
73, in May 1944 (note the date) had 878 Jews taken to Lithuania. Most
were killed in the 9th Fort, Kovno (not Vilna). Some were taken to a
labor camp at Pravienskis and killed there, others were taken to Estonia
to be murdered. There were two survivors >from the 9th Fort, but overall
twenty survivors.

"In Pravieniskes in summer of 1944 were murdered 270 people, without
mentioning nationality or gender. {1941. IX. 4 were killed 253 men and
women} (vol. II, p. 393) >from Documents Accuse. "

For further information on the Lithuanian Shoah see

*Lithuanian Names Project - A letter to Litvaks, February 1999.
Note: The full text of this letter is on The Lithuanian Names Project
Web Site http://www.jewishgen.org/litvak/lithnames.htm

Dr Saul Issroff


Re: The name: "Shulie" #general

Alan Shuchat <ashuchat@...>
 

Miriam Camitta wrote:

I hope that I won't be repeating a topic that has been discussed to
death. I have had my grandmother's collection of postcards (in Russian)
translated into English. In several the writer asks her about a person
named "Shulie." It is likely that all of these writers were primarily
Yiddish speakers. Does anybody out there know what other names Shulie
might refer to?
Shulamit?

Alan Shuchat
ashuchat@wellesley.edu

Researching:
SHUCHAT (Talnoye, Simferopol, Sevastopol, Odessa, Balta)
VINOKUR (Talnoye)
KURIS (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ataki, Berdichev)
SILVERMAN (Soroki, Kremenets)
BIRNBAUM (Kamenets-Podolski)
KITAIGORODSKI (Zvenigorodka)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The name: "Shulie" #general

Alan Shuchat <ashuchat@...>
 

Miriam Camitta wrote:

I hope that I won't be repeating a topic that has been discussed to
death. I have had my grandmother's collection of postcards (in Russian)
translated into English. In several the writer asks her about a person
named "Shulie." It is likely that all of these writers were primarily
Yiddish speakers. Does anybody out there know what other names Shulie
might refer to?
Shulamit?

Alan Shuchat
ashuchat@wellesley.edu

Researching:
SHUCHAT (Talnoye, Simferopol, Sevastopol, Odessa, Balta)
VINOKUR (Talnoye)
KURIS (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ataki, Berdichev)
SILVERMAN (Soroki, Kremenets)
BIRNBAUM (Kamenets-Podolski)
KITAIGORODSKI (Zvenigorodka)


book search MARGOLIOT #general

Miriam Margolyes <75342.3217@...>
 

I would like to buy\find a copy of this book. Any ideas?

"Elef Margoliot (A Thousand Pearls: Biographies and Genealogical Charts
of More Than a Thousand Ancestors of Our Family. A lineage of Jewish
leaders >from ancient times until our father, Israel Arie Margulies), by
Meir Wunder (Institute for Commemoration of Galician Jewry, c/o Wunder,
13 Panim Meirot St., Jerusalem, 1994). This book lists in great detail
1,174 ancestors of Israel Arie Margulies. Many genealogical diagrams are
included."

Apparently this book also refers to the fact that the MARGOLIOT family
sometimes used the name SHAPIRO !...........


Miriam Margolyes
e-mail: 75342.3217@compuserve.com

searching:
MARGOLYES, TURIANSKY, PASEVITCH (PACEWICZ), STUPEL (all >from
Indura & Grodno, Belarus, then Glasgow):
SANDEMAN (SANDMANN) Middlesbrough, UK & Germany,South Africa:
LAZARUS (Berlin), GELBORD (Belarus & Edinburgh):
POSNER (Germany, prob. Berlin)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen book search MARGOLIOT #general

Miriam Margolyes <75342.3217@...>
 

I would like to buy\find a copy of this book. Any ideas?

"Elef Margoliot (A Thousand Pearls: Biographies and Genealogical Charts
of More Than a Thousand Ancestors of Our Family. A lineage of Jewish
leaders >from ancient times until our father, Israel Arie Margulies), by
Meir Wunder (Institute for Commemoration of Galician Jewry, c/o Wunder,
13 Panim Meirot St., Jerusalem, 1994). This book lists in great detail
1,174 ancestors of Israel Arie Margulies. Many genealogical diagrams are
included."

Apparently this book also refers to the fact that the MARGOLIOT family
sometimes used the name SHAPIRO !...........


Miriam Margolyes
e-mail: 75342.3217@compuserve.com

searching:
MARGOLYES, TURIANSKY, PASEVITCH (PACEWICZ), STUPEL (all >from
Indura & Grodno, Belarus, then Glasgow):
SANDEMAN (SANDMANN) Middlesbrough, UK & Germany,South Africa:
LAZARUS (Berlin), GELBORD (Belarus & Edinburgh):
POSNER (Germany, prob. Berlin)