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GOLDWATER/SOLOMON -NOSBOM/GOLDWATER - KORMANN/NOSBOM - CALFAS/NOSBOM - NOSBOM/PAILLASSE #unitedkingdom

desire rolande
 

Hye !

My name's Claudine NOSBOM. I have borne on 28th
December 1946 at VAIRES (77) FRANCE, >from Jean NOSBOM,
borne on 18th October 1916 at PARIS (16) and died on
8th April 1981 at VAIRES (77) FRANCE.

He was a prisoner, list n.53, forced worker during
39/45 war.

My mother calls Lucette RENARD.

My father had a brother, Lucien, borned on 31st
October 1924 at PARIS (15) FRANCE and died on 6th
November 2001 in PARIS (12) FRANCE. My uncle was
married twice and had a son, Patrice NOSBOM >from his
first marriage, borne on 17th April 1951 at PARIS (18)
and died on 4th June 1996 (suicide). He has a
daugther, Zélia NOSBOM, borne on 10th June 1990 AUX
LILAS (93) FRANCE.

My father has also a sister, Jacqueline NOSBOM, borned
on 31st October 1931 at PARIS (16) FRANCE.

My great-parents, side of my father, called :

Georges NOSBOM, borne on 6th May 1889 at PARIS (15)
and died on 17th November 1978 at PARIS (18) FRANCE.
He was decorated >from the War 14/18.

Jeanne PAILLASSE, borne on 6th December 1889 at PARIS
(5) and died on 2nd Auguste 1967 at PARIS (9) FRANCE.

My great father had 2 twins-sisters, Lea and Jane, as
well as Rosa and Sarah. I don't know either their
birthday date, nor the dates when they died.

Rosa was married with Georges CALFAS and they had a
daughter, Lucienne CALFAS, married with René TALLET.

Sarah was married with Maurice KORMANN, and they had a
daughter Hélène, died in 1975 at PARIS FRANCE.

I don't know any dates.

My great-mother, Jeanne PAILLASSE, had, at least I
know, a brother, Victor.

Their Parents called : Pierre PAILLASSE and Marie
MONLIAUZUN. I have no information about them.

My great-great-parents called Barnett NOSBOM and
Miriam GOLDWATER. Barnett borned in Poland, then went
in ENGLAND, before coming in FRANCE. Miriam borne in
Poland in 1860. She was on 1871's census in LONDON
(MIDDLESEX), but no more in 1881. In FRANCE ?

Barnett NOSBOM borned in Poland in 1852 and died in
PARIS (18) FRANCE in 1894.

Miriam had 2 brothers and 1 sister : Solomon B, borne
in 1863 in LONDON (ENGLAND), Harris, borne in 1865 in
LONDON (ENGLAND), and Jane, borne in 1870 in LONDON
(ENGLAND).

The Parents of Miriam GOLDWATER called :

Abraham GOLDWATER, borne in 1832 in POLAND and Rachel
SOLOMON, borne in POLAND too.

Rachel SOLOMON had 2 brothers : Louis, borne in 1849
in POLAND, and Alexander, borne in 1852 in POLAND.

It is all what I have as information, by civil acts
and 1871’s census in LONDON (ENGLAND).

I would like mainly to find connection between NOSBOM
and GOLDWATER, as well as to know more about my
family.

Thank you very much for any help.

Yours faithfully.

CLAUDINE NOSBOM
CHELLES
FRANCE


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom GOLDWATER/SOLOMON -NOSBOM/GOLDWATER - KORMANN/NOSBOM - CALFAS/NOSBOM - NOSBOM/PAILLASSE #unitedkingdom

desire rolande
 

Hye !

My name's Claudine NOSBOM. I have borne on 28th
December 1946 at VAIRES (77) FRANCE, >from Jean NOSBOM,
borne on 18th October 1916 at PARIS (16) and died on
8th April 1981 at VAIRES (77) FRANCE.

He was a prisoner, list n.53, forced worker during
39/45 war.

My mother calls Lucette RENARD.

My father had a brother, Lucien, borned on 31st
October 1924 at PARIS (15) FRANCE and died on 6th
November 2001 in PARIS (12) FRANCE. My uncle was
married twice and had a son, Patrice NOSBOM >from his
first marriage, borne on 17th April 1951 at PARIS (18)
and died on 4th June 1996 (suicide). He has a
daugther, Zélia NOSBOM, borne on 10th June 1990 AUX
LILAS (93) FRANCE.

My father has also a sister, Jacqueline NOSBOM, borned
on 31st October 1931 at PARIS (16) FRANCE.

My great-parents, side of my father, called :

Georges NOSBOM, borne on 6th May 1889 at PARIS (15)
and died on 17th November 1978 at PARIS (18) FRANCE.
He was decorated >from the War 14/18.

Jeanne PAILLASSE, borne on 6th December 1889 at PARIS
(5) and died on 2nd Auguste 1967 at PARIS (9) FRANCE.

My great father had 2 twins-sisters, Lea and Jane, as
well as Rosa and Sarah. I don't know either their
birthday date, nor the dates when they died.

Rosa was married with Georges CALFAS and they had a
daughter, Lucienne CALFAS, married with René TALLET.

Sarah was married with Maurice KORMANN, and they had a
daughter Hélène, died in 1975 at PARIS FRANCE.

I don't know any dates.

My great-mother, Jeanne PAILLASSE, had, at least I
know, a brother, Victor.

Their Parents called : Pierre PAILLASSE and Marie
MONLIAUZUN. I have no information about them.

My great-great-parents called Barnett NOSBOM and
Miriam GOLDWATER. Barnett borned in Poland, then went
in ENGLAND, before coming in FRANCE. Miriam borne in
Poland in 1860. She was on 1871's census in LONDON
(MIDDLESEX), but no more in 1881. In FRANCE ?

Barnett NOSBOM borned in Poland in 1852 and died in
PARIS (18) FRANCE in 1894.

Miriam had 2 brothers and 1 sister : Solomon B, borne
in 1863 in LONDON (ENGLAND), Harris, borne in 1865 in
LONDON (ENGLAND), and Jane, borne in 1870 in LONDON
(ENGLAND).

The Parents of Miriam GOLDWATER called :

Abraham GOLDWATER, borne in 1832 in POLAND and Rachel
SOLOMON, borne in POLAND too.

Rachel SOLOMON had 2 brothers : Louis, borne in 1849
in POLAND, and Alexander, borne in 1852 in POLAND.

It is all what I have as information, by civil acts
and 1871’s census in LONDON (ENGLAND).

I would like mainly to find connection between NOSBOM
and GOLDWATER, as well as to know more about my
family.

Thank you very much for any help.

Yours faithfully.

CLAUDINE NOSBOM
CHELLES
FRANCE


Schwanfeld Census #germany

B. Frederics <picturethisfilm@...>
 

Siggers,
I recently came across a site that mentioned a census for Schwanfeld,
Unterfranken (and the rest of Germany) for the years
1832-1885-1910-1925-1933-1935. They are not in the LDS library. Is anyone
familiar with them and where copies could be obtained? Thank you.

Bonnie Frederics Tucson, AZ picturethisfilm@...


German SIG #Germany Schwanfeld Census #germany

B. Frederics <picturethisfilm@...>
 

Siggers,
I recently came across a site that mentioned a census for Schwanfeld,
Unterfranken (and the rest of Germany) for the years
1832-1885-1910-1925-1933-1935. They are not in the LDS library. Is anyone
familiar with them and where copies could be obtained? Thank you.

Bonnie Frederics Tucson, AZ picturethisfilm@...


Re: INTRO - researching OPPENHEIMER & STATEIN from Germany #germany

MBernet@...
 

On March 13th abmiller@... wrote:
"My research goals now concern the familly of my Grandfather Kenith OPPENHIEMER
and my Great aunt Margo STATEIN (known as 'Hansy', maiden name OPPENHIEMER)."

==I doubt that Kenith is a German name. It looks like a misspelling of a
similar-sounding English (Irish) name Kenneth--also very much not a German name.

==I have a cousin, Kenneth F, who immigrated to London with his parents as a
little boy in 1936 >from Fuerth, Bavaria. In Fuerth his name was Kurt.

==Your Kenith grandfather is likely to have changed his name, too. Check
out for a start all names starting with K.

==I suggest you check the records of Jewish organizations in England that
helped Jewish refugees who escaped >from Europe before, during and immediately
after WW II. To get contact information, post a query on
jcr-uk@...

Michael Bernet, New York MBernet@...


German SIG #Germany Re: INTRO - researching OPPENHEIMER & STATEIN from Germany #germany

MBernet@...
 

On March 13th abmiller@... wrote:
"My research goals now concern the familly of my Grandfather Kenith OPPENHIEMER
and my Great aunt Margo STATEIN (known as 'Hansy', maiden name OPPENHIEMER)."

==I doubt that Kenith is a German name. It looks like a misspelling of a
similar-sounding English (Irish) name Kenneth--also very much not a German name.

==I have a cousin, Kenneth F, who immigrated to London with his parents as a
little boy in 1936 >from Fuerth, Bavaria. In Fuerth his name was Kurt.

==Your Kenith grandfather is likely to have changed his name, too. Check
out for a start all names starting with K.

==I suggest you check the records of Jewish organizations in England that
helped Jewish refugees who escaped >from Europe before, during and immediately
after WW II. To get contact information, post a query on
jcr-uk@...

Michael Bernet, New York MBernet@...


Brilling data via universities in Israel #germany

Paul King <samorai@...>
 

On March 13 Bob Weinberg writes about Rabbi Brilling collection in
Frankfort being in a state of disarray. Israelis and visitors to Israel
interested in published works of Rabbi Brilling (stress on Westphalia) will
find copies of various works scattered among university and several other
libraries in Israel. These library catalogues can be accessed through a
search engine and writing in "Hebrew University Library".

Paul King Jerusalem <samorai@...>


German SIG #Germany Brilling data via universities in Israel #germany

Paul King <samorai@...>
 

On March 13 Bob Weinberg writes about Rabbi Brilling collection in
Frankfort being in a state of disarray. Israelis and visitors to Israel
interested in published works of Rabbi Brilling (stress on Westphalia) will
find copies of various works scattered among university and several other
libraries in Israel. These library catalogues can be accessed through a
search engine and writing in "Hebrew University Library".

Paul King Jerusalem <samorai@...>


Re: Birth Record - 1894 #southafrica

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

As a point of interest, sometimes, it is easier to look at the records for
the institution where the person, Morris Pichols, was listed in the 1901
British Census which was the Jews' Hospital and Orphan Asylum in Norwood,
England.

You can find information about this institution at and their records at:
http://www.archives.lib.soton.ac.uk/guide/MS127.shtml

This was a well-known Jewish welfare organization which was first founded as
two separate organizations - the Jews' Hospital in 1795 and the Jews'
Orphan Asylum in 1831. They became one organization in 1876 until they
closed sometime in the 1960's.

Very often, South African orphans or those children who parents were too
poor to care for them were sent to England which had greater resources as
the small South African Jewish communities could not sustain the cost of the
orphans' or paupers' upkeep.

There are many heart-rending stories of these orphans, a number who were
babies or toddlers, many of whom may have been separated >from their
siblings, and others little older, who were sent away to England.

The children or their families may have actually come originally from
England to South Africa. In fact, they may have lived a very short time in
South Africa before their families died or became unable to care for them.

As South Africa's Jewish communities grew and became more solvant,
native-grown orphan asylums developed such as the major ones in Johannesburg
and Cape Town. At that point, many of the children were able to be kept in
South Africa rather than being sent to England.

If you look at the 1901 British Census for the Institution, you will see a
number of South African-born children listed in the fourteen pages given
over to the Orphan Asylum such as:

Nathan COHEN, age 7
Solomon COHEN, age 9
Morris PICHOLS, age 7
Frederich SABER, age 8
George SABER, age 10
Florrie SOLOMONS, age 12
Alexander WHITE, age 8

An interesting sidelight on the Orphan Asylum is that Sheila Graham, the
British gossip columnist who made it big in Hollywood and was the mistress
of writer F. Scott Fitzgerald, was an inmate at Norwood at the age of six
along with her brother. She was sent there not due to her parents dying,
but due to her family's poverty.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica RE: Birth Record - 1894 #southafrica

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

As a point of interest, sometimes, it is easier to look at the records for
the institution where the person, Morris Pichols, was listed in the 1901
British Census which was the Jews' Hospital and Orphan Asylum in Norwood,
England.

You can find information about this institution at and their records at:
http://www.archives.lib.soton.ac.uk/guide/MS127.shtml

This was a well-known Jewish welfare organization which was first founded as
two separate organizations - the Jews' Hospital in 1795 and the Jews'
Orphan Asylum in 1831. They became one organization in 1876 until they
closed sometime in the 1960's.

Very often, South African orphans or those children who parents were too
poor to care for them were sent to England which had greater resources as
the small South African Jewish communities could not sustain the cost of the
orphans' or paupers' upkeep.

There are many heart-rending stories of these orphans, a number who were
babies or toddlers, many of whom may have been separated >from their
siblings, and others little older, who were sent away to England.

The children or their families may have actually come originally from
England to South Africa. In fact, they may have lived a very short time in
South Africa before their families died or became unable to care for them.

As South Africa's Jewish communities grew and became more solvant,
native-grown orphan asylums developed such as the major ones in Johannesburg
and Cape Town. At that point, many of the children were able to be kept in
South Africa rather than being sent to England.

If you look at the 1901 British Census for the Institution, you will see a
number of South African-born children listed in the fourteen pages given
over to the Orphan Asylum such as:

Nathan COHEN, age 7
Solomon COHEN, age 9
Morris PICHOLS, age 7
Frederich SABER, age 8
George SABER, age 10
Florrie SOLOMONS, age 12
Alexander WHITE, age 8

An interesting sidelight on the Orphan Asylum is that Sheila Graham, the
British gossip columnist who made it big in Hollywood and was the mistress
of writer F. Scott Fitzgerald, was an inmate at Norwood at the age of six
along with her brother. She was sent there not due to her parents dying,
but due to her family's poverty.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...


Re: NYC Conference #latvia #courland

Dorothy Bernstein <deebb@...>
 

Dear Martha,
I would be very interested in a meeting at the conference. I will not be
staying at the hotel so I hope it will not be in the late evening. (my
daughter lives in NYC so I will be staying with her)
Dorothy Balkin Bernstein
researching Balkin, Steinborn, Weinberg >from the Courland area.

----- Original Message -----


Subject: NYC Conference
From: Martha LEV-ZION <martha@...>
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 18:48:16 +0200

I would like to know how many of you intend to come to a meeting of
the Courland Research Group at the IAJGS Conference in New York in
August? This is not a meal, but a working meeting to try to move
things along further. On the agenda would be [not necessarily in this
order]:

1. Where we now stand and where we are heading

2. Projects you would like to see undertaken

3. Projects presently in the pipeline

4. Any other business you would like to discuss.

Please respond as soon as possible so that I know if we will have
enough interest for a meeting.

Dr. Martha Lev-Zion
Steering committee


Re: NYC Conference #latvia #courland

Robert E. Heyman <robeh1@...>
 

Martha,

I'll be at the conference, and could come to such a meeting.

Robert

Martha LEV-ZION wrote:

I would like to know how many of you intend to come to a meeting of
the Courland Research Group at the IAJGS Conference in New York in
August? This is not a meal, but a working meeting to try to move
things along further. On the agenda would be [not necessarily in this
order]:

1. Where we now stand and where we are heading

2. Projects you would like to see undertaken

3. Projects presently in the pipeline

4. Any other business you would like to discuss.

Please respond as soon as possible so that I know if we will have
enough interest for a meeting.

Dr. Martha Lev-Zion
Steering committee


Courland SIG #Courland #Latvia Re: NYC Conference #courland #latvia

Dorothy Bernstein <deebb@...>
 

Dear Martha,
I would be very interested in a meeting at the conference. I will not be
staying at the hotel so I hope it will not be in the late evening. (my
daughter lives in NYC so I will be staying with her)
Dorothy Balkin Bernstein
researching Balkin, Steinborn, Weinberg >from the Courland area.

----- Original Message -----


Subject: NYC Conference
From: Martha LEV-ZION <martha@...>
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 18:48:16 +0200

I would like to know how many of you intend to come to a meeting of
the Courland Research Group at the IAJGS Conference in New York in
August? This is not a meal, but a working meeting to try to move
things along further. On the agenda would be [not necessarily in this
order]:

1. Where we now stand and where we are heading

2. Projects you would like to see undertaken

3. Projects presently in the pipeline

4. Any other business you would like to discuss.

Please respond as soon as possible so that I know if we will have
enough interest for a meeting.

Dr. Martha Lev-Zion
Steering committee


Courland SIG #Courland #Latvia Re: NYC Conference #courland #latvia

Robert E. Heyman <robeh1@...>
 

Martha,

I'll be at the conference, and could come to such a meeting.

Robert

Martha LEV-ZION wrote:

I would like to know how many of you intend to come to a meeting of
the Courland Research Group at the IAJGS Conference in New York in
August? This is not a meal, but a working meeting to try to move
things along further. On the agenda would be [not necessarily in this
order]:

1. Where we now stand and where we are heading

2. Projects you would like to see undertaken

3. Projects presently in the pipeline

4. Any other business you would like to discuss.

Please respond as soon as possible so that I know if we will have
enough interest for a meeting.

Dr. Martha Lev-Zion
Steering committee


NY Conference #courland #latvia

hrhode
 

I'll be at the Courland meeting.

Subject: NYC Conference
From: Martha LEV-ZION <martha@...>
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 18:48:16 +0200

I would like to know how many of you intend to come to a meeting of
the Courland Research Group at the IAJGS Conference in New York in
August? This is not a meal, but a working meeting to try to move
things along further. On the agenda would be [not necessarily in this
order]:

1. Where we now stand and where we are heading

2. Projects you would like to see undertaken

3. Projects presently in the pipeline

4. Any other business you would like to discuss.

Please respond as soon as possible so that I know if we will have
enough interest for a meeting.

Dr. Martha Lev-Zion
Steering committee


Courland SIG #Courland #Latvia NY Conference #courland #latvia

hrhode
 

I'll be at the Courland meeting.

Subject: NYC Conference
From: Martha LEV-ZION <martha@...>
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 18:48:16 +0200

I would like to know how many of you intend to come to a meeting of
the Courland Research Group at the IAJGS Conference in New York in
August? This is not a meal, but a working meeting to try to move
things along further. On the agenda would be [not necessarily in this
order]:

1. Where we now stand and where we are heading

2. Projects you would like to see undertaken

3. Projects presently in the pipeline

4. Any other business you would like to discuss.

Please respond as soon as possible so that I know if we will have
enough interest for a meeting.

Dr. Martha Lev-Zion
Steering committee


Re: Tree GRAB-FISCHER-WOTTITZ link #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Hanus Grab wrote: <"Please take a look at the list of
family names at the bottom of the page at
http://www.grab-family.com
Perhaps someone can help me.">

I have been meaning to ask Hanus for a long time - I
have Auguste GRAB on my WOTTITZ family tree marrying
Robert FISCHER {Wiener Magistrat March 4, 1913}.
Auguste was born Nov. 18 1888 in Dauba, Bohemia.

Robert FISCHER's mother was Ernestine WOTTITZ born 24
Sept. 1856 in Pressburg, the sister of my
gt-grandfather Gustav WOTTITZ, and Robert's father was
David FISCHER born 4 April 1843 in Nikolsburg.

Unfortunately, I know nothing more about the FISCHER
family as I have never made contact with any of them,
wherever they might be.

David FISCHER and Ernestine WOTTITZ had 5 children:

Else Aug 7 1879
Olga 30 June 1881
Robert 30 June 1885
Paul Nov 8 1886
Grethe April 24 1888

Grethe {nee FISCHER} PRUGGER came to England - I can
see her in "Moving Here":
http://www.movinghere.org.uk/
and the reason I found her was that my grandmother,
Ida {nee WOTTITZ} KERNER, who was Grethe's
first-cousin, has her listed in her tiny little
address book of the late 1930s as Grethe PRUGGER
[FISCHER].

And that sadly is all I know about this branch
of my WOTTITZ family.

Celia Male [U.K]


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: Tree GRAB-FISCHER-WOTTITZ link #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Hanus Grab wrote: <"Please take a look at the list of
family names at the bottom of the page at
http://www.grab-family.com
Perhaps someone can help me.">

I have been meaning to ask Hanus for a long time - I
have Auguste GRAB on my WOTTITZ family tree marrying
Robert FISCHER {Wiener Magistrat March 4, 1913}.
Auguste was born Nov. 18 1888 in Dauba, Bohemia.

Robert FISCHER's mother was Ernestine WOTTITZ born 24
Sept. 1856 in Pressburg, the sister of my
gt-grandfather Gustav WOTTITZ, and Robert's father was
David FISCHER born 4 April 1843 in Nikolsburg.

Unfortunately, I know nothing more about the FISCHER
family as I have never made contact with any of them,
wherever they might be.

David FISCHER and Ernestine WOTTITZ had 5 children:

Else Aug 7 1879
Olga 30 June 1881
Robert 30 June 1885
Paul Nov 8 1886
Grethe April 24 1888

Grethe {nee FISCHER} PRUGGER came to England - I can
see her in "Moving Here":
http://www.movinghere.org.uk/
and the reason I found her was that my grandmother,
Ida {nee WOTTITZ} KERNER, who was Grethe's
first-cousin, has her listed in her tiny little
address book of the late 1930s as Grethe PRUGGER
[FISCHER].

And that sadly is all I know about this branch
of my WOTTITZ family.

Celia Male [U.K]


Re: SPIERS - SPIRO #rabbinic

moishe@langsam.com <moishe@...>
 

Hi,

SPIRO is a very common name in rabbinical circles. You would be well
advised to elaborate more on the immediate ancestry of your relative,
where they were born and when they lived. In my own family tree there
were many rabbis by the name of SPIRA, offspring of R' Hersh Mylech
SPIRA of Dynow, Galicia (1783 - 1841), also known as the Bnei
Yissoschur.

Moishe Miller
Brooklyn, NY


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: SPIERS - SPIRO #rabbinic

moishe@langsam.com <moishe@...>
 

Hi,

SPIRO is a very common name in rabbinical circles. You would be well
advised to elaborate more on the immediate ancestry of your relative,
where they were born and when they lived. In my own family tree there
were many rabbis by the name of SPIRA, offspring of R' Hersh Mylech
SPIRA of Dynow, Galicia (1783 - 1841), also known as the Bnei
Yissoschur.

Moishe Miller
Brooklyn, NY