Thank a lot for the valuable information about the book. Could you
please look if the name HERSKOVITS appears (Adolf).

Thanks,

Alex Kerner

Hello,

Could somebody help me translating the following inscriptions on
gravestones?

Nyugodjek Bekeben

Cyaszoljak felesege

gyermekei es unokai

elt 90 evet

Thanks,

Alex Kerner

Hi all:
I just added a new button on the main page of the JRI-Poland
web site (http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl).

The button is entitled "Success Stories".
This links to a page that contains many success stories
people have written to me or others on the JRI board.

Have a look. If you have a success story, feel free to
either post it to this list or email it to me.

We enjoy reading these as it shows that we are doing
the right thing and we are helping many people in their
research.

Thanks,
Steve
JRI-Poland Web Master
--
* Steven A. Zedeck Internet: saz@... *
* 25 Cathedral Circle, Nashua, NH 03063 saz@... *
*********************************************************************

Hello,

Could somebody help me translating the following inscriptions on
gravestones?

Nyugodjek Bekeben

Cyaszoljak felesege

gyermekei es unokai

elt 90 evet

Thanks,

Alex Kerner

Thank a lot for the valuable information about the book. Could you
please look if the name HERSKOVITS appears (Adolf).

Thanks,

Alex Kerner

Hi all:
I just added a new button on the main page of the JRI-Poland
web site (http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl).

The button is entitled "Success Stories".
This links to a page that contains many success stories
people have written to me or others on the JRI board.

Have a look. If you have a success story, feel free to
either post it to this list or email it to me.

We enjoy reading these as it shows that we are doing
the right thing and we are helping many people in their
research.

Thanks,
Steve
JRI-Poland Web Master
--
* Steven A. Zedeck Internet: saz@... *
* 25 Cathedral Circle, Nashua, NH 03063 saz@... *
*********************************************************************

In a message dated 7/31/98 1:10:53 PM, you wrote:

<<have you ever heard of a town called
Cauaceu (used to be Hegykozkovaci before WWI)
in Bihor County near Oradea?
Thank you,
Deborah Zaccaro

Hi Deborah,

A few days ago I didn't have an answer to your question, however after finding
a new site, I think you may have a hit. I'm posting to the group because I
feel it may be of use for others researching the Transylvanian area.

Go to http://www.rotravel.com/sit/map/index.htm
Click on Satu Mare County
Look between the towns of Carei and Tasnad, near the River Erin and you will
spot a little town called Cauas (say Ka-oo-ah-sh). This may be what you are
looking for, as it is situated in the valley between two mountains (hills,
rather). In the old name Hegykozkovacs, 'hegykoz' means in between mountains.

Please know that in the last 50 years, county boundaries have changed back and
forth and some places that were at one time in Bihor County may well be today
in Satu Mare, Salaj, or even Cluj Counties.

Same holds true for names of smaller villages. "Cauas" is closer to "kovacs"
than Cauaceu (say Ka-oo-ah-chay-oo) and anyway, in Roumanian language, the
"ceu" is a suffixlike definite pronoun indicating masculin gender.

My best,

Susan Geroe

Dear Margarita,

Check these sites:

http://www.uniformology.com/index.html

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~phil/

you can also email to:
mailto:rgrasso@...
a person who specializes in this subject.

regards
Tom

regards
Tom

at 31/07/98 - 18:34 -0300, Margarita wrote:

Dear all,

I just came accross of the following page:

http://www.acronet.net/~magyar/english/96-07/tortknyv.html

which list a number of very interesting books covering Hungary and
Hungarian Jewry, which can be found at the LDS library. I can't reach them
here in Brazil, but maybe some of you can. I hope this is useful.

b'Shalom
Tom

BTW, I am looking for a book published by Avotaynu, called

Sourcebook for Jewish Genealogies and Family Histories
by David Zubatsky and Irwin Berent

If somebody has it or can have access to it, please let me know in private.

Many thanks

I would appreciate a look up for the names of Sas and Deutsch.

Cheryl

______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Arthur Kurzweil's Encyclopedia of Jewish Genealogy lists the LDS numbers for
the 1848 census.

I ordered the number he listed for Hajdu county and found it to be incorrect.

When I checked the book with the librarian we noticed that the number was
out of sequence with the other numbers in the census. So I ordered the
number that seemed logical considering the other numbers. Another mistake.

Does anyone know if the Hajdu portion of the 1848 census is extant and on film?

I don't see it included in Debbi Korman's listing in the contents of the
census on the H-SIG web site. But I believe that I found it listed on the
LDS computer and ordered that number too which was also incorrect.


Michael Kelemen
Toronto


PS. Debbi's List:

Bekes and Bihar - 719,823

Also on 719,823 are the census pages for the free cities of Debreczen,
Eperjes (Presov), Gyongyos, Gyor, Miskolcz, Modor (now Modra, close to
Bratislava), Nagy-Szombat (Trnava), Szakolcza (now Skalica near Nitra),
Trenscen, Ujvidek, Temesvar and Zombor.

Esztergom, Baranya, Csanad, Csongrad, Fejer, Gyor, Komarom,
Kozep-Snolnok (later Szilagy) - 719,824

Krasso, Kraszna (later Szilagy), Marmaros, Moson, Szabolcs, Tolna -
719,825

Trenscen, Turocz, Ung - 719,826

Vas, Veszprem - 719,827

Zala - 719,828

Dear all,

I just came accross of the following page:

http://www.acronet.net/~magyar/english/96-07/tortknyv.html

which list a number of very interesting books covering Hungary and
Hungarian Jewry, which can be found at the LDS library. I can't reach them
here in Brazil, but maybe some of you can. I hope this is useful.

b'Shalom
Tom

BTW, I am looking for a book published by Avotaynu, called

Sourcebook for Jewish Genealogies and Family Histories
by David Zubatsky and Irwin Berent

If somebody has it or can have access to it, please let me know in private.

Many thanks

Dear Margarita,

Check these sites:

http://www.uniformology.com/index.html

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~phil/

you can also email to:
mailto:rgrasso@...
a person who specializes in this subject.

regards
Tom

regards
Tom

at 31/07/98 - 18:34 -0300, Margarita wrote:

I would appreciate a look up for the names of Sas and Deutsch.

Cheryl

______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

In a message dated 7/31/98 1:10:53 PM, you wrote:

<<have you ever heard of a town called
Cauaceu (used to be Hegykozkovaci before WWI)
in Bihor County near Oradea?
Thank you,
Deborah Zaccaro

Hi Deborah,

A few days ago I didn't have an answer to your question, however after finding
a new site, I think you may have a hit. I'm posting to the group because I
feel it may be of use for others researching the Transylvanian area.

Go to http://www.rotravel.com/sit/map/index.htm
Click on Satu Mare County
Look between the towns of Carei and Tasnad, near the River Erin and you will
spot a little town called Cauas (say Ka-oo-ah-sh). This may be what you are
looking for, as it is situated in the valley between two mountains (hills,
rather). In the old name Hegykozkovacs, 'hegykoz' means in between mountains.

Please know that in the last 50 years, county boundaries have changed back and
forth and some places that were at one time in Bihor County may well be today
in Satu Mare, Salaj, or even Cluj Counties.

Same holds true for names of smaller villages. "Cauas" is closer to "kovacs"
than Cauaceu (say Ka-oo-ah-chay-oo) and anyway, in Roumanian language, the
"ceu" is a suffixlike definite pronoun indicating masculin gender.

My best,

Susan Geroe

Arthur Kurzweil's Encyclopedia of Jewish Genealogy lists the LDS numbers for
the 1848 census.

I ordered the number he listed for Hajdu county and found it to be incorrect.

When I checked the book with the librarian we noticed that the number was
out of sequence with the other numbers in the census. So I ordered the
number that seemed logical considering the other numbers. Another mistake.

Does anyone know if the Hajdu portion of the 1848 census is extant and on film?

I don't see it included in Debbi Korman's listing in the contents of the
census on the H-SIG web site. But I believe that I found it listed on the
LDS computer and ordered that number too which was also incorrect.


Michael Kelemen
Toronto


PS. Debbi's List:

Bekes and Bihar - 719,823

Also on 719,823 are the census pages for the free cities of Debreczen,
Eperjes (Presov), Gyongyos, Gyor, Miskolcz, Modor (now Modra, close to
Bratislava), Nagy-Szombat (Trnava), Szakolcza (now Skalica near Nitra),
Trenscen, Ujvidek, Temesvar and Zombor.

Esztergom, Baranya, Csanad, Csongrad, Fejer, Gyor, Komarom,
Kozep-Snolnok (later Szilagy) - 719,824

Krasso, Kraszna (later Szilagy), Marmaros, Moson, Szabolcs, Tolna -
719,825

Trenscen, Turocz, Ung - 719,826

Vas, Veszprem - 719,827

Zala - 719,828

Would appreciate hearing >from anyone with additional information on, or
who can help me find pertinent information in Lithuania regarding my
great-grandparents, Graenum Falk and Nachama Yochevet BERGER and
their antecedents.
-------------------------------------------------------
They had six children. She and the six (all adults) and their spouses
(five were married in "old" country, one after arrival in US) and their
children, all came to the US circa 1895-1905. All noted below born in
Lithuania. ALL children/descendants born later in US are known. Lack any
information as to siblings, parents, and so forth of Graenum Falk
BERGER.
Suspect he may have had sister, Hannah, who had three sons. No other
information known. None came to America as far as we know.
-------------------------------------------------------
Children of Graenum Falk BERGER and Nachama Yochevet:
- Son Hyman BERGER married Deborah Krever in 1886.
Children: Max, Moe Aaron born 9-1888, Henry, Graenum
- Son Itzig Ber BERGER (my GF) born 1869 was twice married, first to
Rivka Potishvonsky who had two children, Sadie born 10-15-1892 in
Vilnius, and Morris (Moses?) Aaron born 1-15-1894. She died with third
child. Second wife Batya Cohen born 1875, bore one child Rachel
10-5-1902, later three more in US (including my father, Graenum BERGER).
- Son Morris BERGER, married Rose Leavitt. Children Ida and Jean.
- Daughter Sarah Ethel Berger married Israel SHAPIRO. Children Francis
born 9-10-1895, Edith, Maurice.
- Daughter Pauline Berger born 1875. Married after arrival in US.
- Daughther Fannie Berger born 1877, married Joseph BRICKMAN in 1898.
Child Leah born 7-15-??.
-------------------------------------------------------
BERGER family generally referred to VILNIUS as their "home," but they
may have all been born in KUPISKIS.
Nachama came to the US in 1899 or 1900. Graenum Falk did not come to US.
Hyman and Deborah Berger and at least two children (Max and Moe Arron)
came to US >from Vilnius in 1898. Hyman was a Talmudic student. Deborah
operated a bakery in Vilnius.
Itzig owned a feed store in Vilnius. Batya worked in the store. Itzig
left for US in 1904 and went to Pennslyvania to peddle. Batya and
children followed in 1905, departing >from Souwalki (Poland) sailing >from
Hamburg, Germany on the S.S. Blucher. She and children arrived in NY
City
on September 3, and traveled to Pennsylvania. They later settled in
Gloversville, NY.
Pauline Berger came to the US >from Kovna in 1898.
Joseph Brickman was a tailor. He went to Capetown, South Africa in
1900. Wife and child followed him there. All later came to US.
-------------------------------------------------------
Thanks in advance,
B. Michael (Mike) Berger
smberg@...
Vienna, VA (suburb of Washington, DC)

Would appreciate hearing >from anyone with additional information on, or
who can help me find pertinent information in Lithuania regarding my
great-grandparents, Graenum Falk and Nachama Yochevet BERGER and
their antecedents.
-------------------------------------------------------
They had six children. She and the six (all adults) and their spouses
(five were married in "old" country, one after arrival in US) and their
children, all came to the US circa 1895-1905. All noted below born in
Lithuania. ALL children/descendants born later in US are known. Lack any
information as to siblings, parents, and so forth of Graenum Falk
BERGER.
Suspect he may have had sister, Hannah, who had three sons. No other
information known. None came to America as far as we know.
-------------------------------------------------------
Children of Graenum Falk BERGER and Nachama Yochevet:
- Son Hyman BERGER married Deborah Krever in 1886.
Children: Max, Moe Aaron born 9-1888, Henry, Graenum
- Son Itzig Ber BERGER (my GF) born 1869 was twice married, first to
Rivka Potishvonsky who had two children, Sadie born 10-15-1892 in
Vilnius, and Morris (Moses?) Aaron born 1-15-1894. She died with third
child. Second wife Batya Cohen born 1875, bore one child Rachel
10-5-1902, later three more in US (including my father, Graenum BERGER).
- Son Morris BERGER, married Rose Leavitt. Children Ida and Jean.
- Daughter Sarah Ethel Berger married Israel SHAPIRO. Children Francis
born 9-10-1895, Edith, Maurice.
- Daughter Pauline Berger born 1875. Married after arrival in US.
- Daughther Fannie Berger born 1877, married Joseph BRICKMAN in 1898.
Child Leah born 7-15-??.
-------------------------------------------------------
BERGER family generally referred to VILNIUS as their "home," but they
may have all been born in KUPISKIS.
Nachama came to the US in 1899 or 1900. Graenum Falk did not come to US.
Hyman and Deborah Berger and at least two children (Max and Moe Arron)
came to US >from Vilnius in 1898. Hyman was a Talmudic student. Deborah
operated a bakery in Vilnius.
Itzig owned a feed store in Vilnius. Batya worked in the store. Itzig
left for US in 1904 and went to Pennslyvania to peddle. Batya and
children followed in 1905, departing >from Souwalki (Poland) sailing >from
Hamburg, Germany on the S.S. Blucher. She and children arrived in NY
City
on September 3, and traveled to Pennsylvania. They later settled in
Gloversville, NY.
Pauline Berger came to the US >from Kovna in 1898.
Joseph Brickman was a tailor. He went to Capetown, South Africa in
1900. Wife and child followed him there. All later came to US.
-------------------------------------------------------
Thanks in advance,
B. Michael (Mike) Berger
smberg@...
Vienna, VA (suburb of Washington, DC)

On 31 Jul 1998, Kenneth A. (Ken) Camber <hapnken@...> in a message
<Where Amateurs Dare Not Tread> wrote:

I would like to extend my thanks to Ilya Zeldes...

<snip>

Ken Camber,
Rank Amateur

To whom it my concern:
I responded to Kenneth A. (Ken) Camber <hapnken@...> message
privately in hope that he will accept it and respond to the list publicly,
that misunderstanding between us is over.
Sincerely,
-----------------
Ilya Zeldes, still proud to keep my Ph.D. in Forensic Sciences, but
otherwise being your fellow amateur translator and hobbyist genealogist.
Email: ILYAZ@...

Coming fresh >from the excellent JewishGen Workshop at the LA Seminar on how
to create one's own ShtetLinks Page, conducted by Rachel Unkefer, I have
begun working on a ShtetLinks site for Seta (although it will be many moons
before it is ready).

The sample template of a homepage for Lazdijai, Lithuania in the JewishGen
ShtetLinks directory under "Creating Your Own ShtetLinks Site" provides for
links to the JGFF, HaMelitz and HaMagid searchable databases, but it does
not yet do so for the brand new All Lithuania Database, so I have just
created one for it.

To add the All Lithuania Database to the Searchable Databases section of
your current or upcoming ShtetLinks page, please use the following HTML
language, substituting the name of your particular shtetl for all
occurrences of YOURSHTETL (all caps or initial cap only for the name of your
shtetl is your choice).

<!--***********************************************************-->
<!--The following searches the All Lithuania database for -->
<!--YOURSHTETL. -->
<!--***********************************************************-->


<LI><B><STRONG>All Lithuania Database (for YOURSHTETL)
<!--NOEDIT-->
<FORM Method="POST"
Action="http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~lithuania2">
<P>Click the button to show YOURSHTETL names >from the All Lithuania
Database--use the "Back" button on your browser to return to here
<B><A HREF="http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/alllith2.htm">(About the All
Lithuania Database)</A></B>
<input name="srch" TYPE="hidden" VALUE="YOURSHTETL">
<input name="srch2" TYPE="hidden" VALUE="TD">
<INPUT TYPE="submit" VALUE="Search the All Lithuania Database">
</Form>
<!--/NOEDIT-->

I tried it for Seta and it works. No, I am not an HTML expert though -- I
am "winging it" <g>.

Ada Greenblatt
ada.Greenblatt@...