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Success story: VARSHAVCHIK and RAYKHZELIGMAN #general

Angie Elfassi
 

Hi,

from time to time I check JewishGen/LitvakSIG for updates on my
RAYKHZELIGMAN family.

Recently, I was very happy to see that on the LitvakSIG births there was a Ginde
RAYKHZELIGMAN married to Yosel s/o Ezra SHATIL. I went to the All Lithuanian
Revision Database to check SHATIL and found SHATIL Ginde d/o Yosel. In the
comments column was written: "lives in house of Rejkhzeligman; 1st husband A.
Yu. Nevyazhskij; 2nd husband Shatil"

I then checked out NEVYAZHSKIJ or NAVIASKY and found there her 1st husband:
Abraham Yudel NAVIASKY, and it was written there child (what I believe was their
only child) - Ieremaya b. 1862.

But there's more to the story. I sent an email to several genealogy forums and
someone wrote and told me that they had more RAYKHZELIGMAN information and would
I be interested? Of course I was!

The info was promptly sent me which showed that one of my ancestors Nakhman
(b.1848) s/o Yosel (who happens to be Ginde's father too - para. 2 above)
RAYKZELIGMAN was married to Khaia (info that I had on my tree) and that Khaia's
maiden name was VARSHAVCHIK >from Kaunas/Kovno.

I immediately went to JGFF and found quite a few VARSHAVCHIK variations there.
I sent off emails via JGFF and not much later that day (taking into account time
difference between Israel and East Coast USA) I got a reply >from a VARSHAVCHIK
descendant; we have compared our trees, and they match!

What could be more exciting than that!

Thanks JewishGen/LitvakSIG and that very kind person who sent me email info.

Regards
Angie Elfassi
Israel

Searching:
RAYKH-ZELIGMAN/RICHMAN, Stakliskes, Lithuania/Leeds
COHEN, Sakiai, Lithuania/Leeds
MAGIDOWITZ, Jurbarkas, Lithuania/Leeds
KASSIMOFF, Rezekne, Latvia/Leeds

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Success story: VARSHAVCHIK and RAYKHZELIGMAN #general

Angie Elfassi
 

Hi,

from time to time I check JewishGen/LitvakSIG for updates on my
RAYKHZELIGMAN family.

Recently, I was very happy to see that on the LitvakSIG births there was a Ginde
RAYKHZELIGMAN married to Yosel s/o Ezra SHATIL. I went to the All Lithuanian
Revision Database to check SHATIL and found SHATIL Ginde d/o Yosel. In the
comments column was written: "lives in house of Rejkhzeligman; 1st husband A.
Yu. Nevyazhskij; 2nd husband Shatil"

I then checked out NEVYAZHSKIJ or NAVIASKY and found there her 1st husband:
Abraham Yudel NAVIASKY, and it was written there child (what I believe was their
only child) - Ieremaya b. 1862.

But there's more to the story. I sent an email to several genealogy forums and
someone wrote and told me that they had more RAYKHZELIGMAN information and would
I be interested? Of course I was!

The info was promptly sent me which showed that one of my ancestors Nakhman
(b.1848) s/o Yosel (who happens to be Ginde's father too - para. 2 above)
RAYKZELIGMAN was married to Khaia (info that I had on my tree) and that Khaia's
maiden name was VARSHAVCHIK >from Kaunas/Kovno.

I immediately went to JGFF and found quite a few VARSHAVCHIK variations there.
I sent off emails via JGFF and not much later that day (taking into account time
difference between Israel and East Coast USA) I got a reply >from a VARSHAVCHIK
descendant; we have compared our trees, and they match!

What could be more exciting than that!

Thanks JewishGen/LitvakSIG and that very kind person who sent me email info.

Regards
Angie Elfassi
Israel

Searching:
RAYKH-ZELIGMAN/RICHMAN, Stakliskes, Lithuania/Leeds
COHEN, Sakiai, Lithuania/Leeds
MAGIDOWITZ, Jurbarkas, Lithuania/Leeds
KASSIMOFF, Rezekne, Latvia/Leeds

MODERATOR NOTE: Congratulations to Angie for her successful research.
If you would like to express your appreciation in a tangible and practical
fashion, please consider a donation to further the work of JewishGen.
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New Montifiore Cemetery, Long Island: gravestone photo sought #general

Gary Sales <Gary_Sales@...>
 

We need a photograph of my great grandmother's gravestone in the
New Montifiore Cemetery on Long Island (1180 Wellwood Ave., West Babylon,NY).
Her name is Sarah Silverberg
Block 4, Row 4, Grave 6L, Section 3
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
My email address is "gary_sales@..."
Thank you,
Gary Sales


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New Montifiore Cemetery, Long Island: gravestone photo sought #general

Gary Sales <Gary_Sales@...>
 

We need a photograph of my great grandmother's gravestone in the
New Montifiore Cemetery on Long Island (1180 Wellwood Ave., West Babylon,NY).
Her name is Sarah Silverberg
Block 4, Row 4, Grave 6L, Section 3
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
My email address is "gary_sales@..."
Thank you,
Gary Sales


Ellis Island certificate of landing #general

Jim Gutterman
 

On one of my requests for naturalization documents, they included one
of these certificates in with the rest of the materials they sent me.
This was the one and only time I received it, however, out of maybe
10-15 requests I've made total.

James Gutterman

snip...
Immigrants arriving at Ellis Island before 1906 received a Certificate
of Landing upon leaving the processing center.
snip...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ellis Island certificate of landing #general

Jim Gutterman
 

On one of my requests for naturalization documents, they included one
of these certificates in with the rest of the materials they sent me.
This was the one and only time I received it, however, out of maybe
10-15 requests I've made total.

James Gutterman

snip...
Immigrants arriving at Ellis Island before 1906 received a Certificate
of Landing upon leaving the processing center.
snip...


assistance with photo identification (time frame, place) #poland

Debbi Schaubman
 

I have posted to ViewMate a photograph that belonged to my grandfather
(Mosche SZAUBMAN/SZOBMAN). No one in the family is sure who these
people are or, for that matter, where or when the picture was taken.

The current hypothesis is that it may be a photo of the family of my
ggf Noach GERSZTENBLIT, his 2nd wife, and his many children. If so,
the photo would date >from Lublin in (approximately) 1910.

I'd like to know if the clothing, hair styles, etc. are consistent
with that hypothesis.

The photo is at http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17096

Please reply privately or via ViewMate.

Thanks for your help.

Debbi Schaubman

Researching on:
SZAUBMAN/SZOBMAN >from Lublin
GERSZTENBLIT/GERSTENBLUTH fom Lublin
SMOLIANOFF/SMOLONOW >from Kreminczuk


JRI Poland #Poland assistance with photo identification (time frame, place) #poland

Debbi Schaubman
 

I have posted to ViewMate a photograph that belonged to my grandfather
(Mosche SZAUBMAN/SZOBMAN). No one in the family is sure who these
people are or, for that matter, where or when the picture was taken.

The current hypothesis is that it may be a photo of the family of my
ggf Noach GERSZTENBLIT, his 2nd wife, and his many children. If so,
the photo would date >from Lublin in (approximately) 1910.

I'd like to know if the clothing, hair styles, etc. are consistent
with that hypothesis.

The photo is at http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17096

Please reply privately or via ViewMate.

Thanks for your help.

Debbi Schaubman

Researching on:
SZAUBMAN/SZOBMAN >from Lublin
GERSZTENBLIT/GERSTENBLUTH fom Lublin
SMOLIANOFF/SMOLONOW >from Kreminczuk


Assistance in translation - WAGNER of Lublin/Zamosc area #poland

Tamar Amit <tamar.amit@...>
 

I ask you again to assist with new document copies.
Documents are all >from the Lublin Province mostly in the Zamosc area.

I posted the following on ViewMate and would love any assistance with:
exact dates, names of parents, occupations, ages, where they came
from, if they were still alive at the time, other relatives etc. -

[Cryllic] 2-page Marriage registration of WAGNER Malka & TAUBENBLAT
Jakob registered in Szczebrzeszyn:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17063
and
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17064

[Polish] Marriage registration of WAGNER(man) Leybus & CUKIERMAN Reyza
Ester registered in Krasnystaw:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17067

[Polish] Marriage registration of WAGNER Todeia? & BRENER Lejba
registered in Krasnystaw:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17068

[Cryllic] Page 1 of 2 of the Marriage registration of WAGNER Fajwel
Iser & ? registered in Krasnik:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17069
The second page would probably be approved for posting soon and loaded as
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17070

Please reply privately (tamar.amit at gmail.com).
Many thanks in advance,
Tamar Amit
ISRAEL


JRI Poland #Poland Assistance in translation - WAGNER of Lublin/Zamosc area #poland

Tamar Amit <tamar.amit@...>
 

I ask you again to assist with new document copies.
Documents are all >from the Lublin Province mostly in the Zamosc area.

I posted the following on ViewMate and would love any assistance with:
exact dates, names of parents, occupations, ages, where they came
from, if they were still alive at the time, other relatives etc. -

[Cryllic] 2-page Marriage registration of WAGNER Malka & TAUBENBLAT
Jakob registered in Szczebrzeszyn:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17063
and
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17064

[Polish] Marriage registration of WAGNER(man) Leybus & CUKIERMAN Reyza
Ester registered in Krasnystaw:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17067

[Polish] Marriage registration of WAGNER Todeia? & BRENER Lejba
registered in Krasnystaw:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17068

[Cryllic] Page 1 of 2 of the Marriage registration of WAGNER Fajwel
Iser & ? registered in Krasnik:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17069
The second page would probably be approved for posting soon and loaded as
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17070

Please reply privately (tamar.amit at gmail.com).
Many thanks in advance,
Tamar Amit
ISRAEL


Re: Mentors and Disciples #general

Alan Ehrlich
 

From: "Mordechai Perlman" <mordechaiperlman@...>
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 10:19:52 +0200

"[...] I am searching for genealogy software that will assist me in
mapping the genealogy of the Rabbanim... [...] that will allow me to
input mentors and disciples and to show graphically, connections
between them."

Hi,

Since what you're looking for is "very specialized", if no other perfect
solution turns up, you could possibly use software like "Brother's Keeper"
that allows creating an "Event/Fact" with respect to any individual in the
tree, plus naming witnesses to the "Event/Fact" and then assign the "Mentors"
as witnesses to this "Event/Fact" (for example Education)... And use a
second different ""Event/Fact" (any one of the dozens that Brother's Keeper
has built in) and name the "Disciples" as "Witnesses" to this event.

In Brother's Keeper, "Witnesses" become part of the family tree and
therefore could also be assigned wives, children, Mentors, Disciples and
other "Events/Facts" as well as relationships of their own.

Friendly regards,
Alan (Ehrlich)
Geneva, Switzerland

MODERATOR NOTE: Detailed discussion of the operations of specific
genealogy programs is beyond the scope of JewishGen lists. Please
continue the discussion of the details of how Brother's Keeper
handles "Events/Facts" privately. Suggestions of other programs
that can do what Mordecai Perlman is looking for will be considered
for posting.


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic RE: Mentors and Disciples #rabbinic

Alan Ehrlich
 

From: "Mordechai Perlman" <mordechaiperlman@...>
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 10:19:52 +0200

"[...] I am searching for genealogy software that will assist me in
mapping the genealogy of the Rabbanim... [...] that will allow me to
input mentors and disciples and to show graphically, connections
between them."

Hi,

Since what you're looking for is "very specialized", if no other perfect
solution turns up, you could possibly use software like "Brother's Keeper"
that allows creating an "Event/Fact" with respect to any individual in the
tree, plus naming witnesses to the "Event/Fact" and then assign the "Mentors"
as witnesses to this "Event/Fact" (for example Education)... And use a
second different ""Event/Fact" (any one of the dozens that Brother's Keeper
has built in) and name the "Disciples" as "Witnesses" to this event.

In Brother's Keeper, "Witnesses" become part of the family tree and
therefore could also be assigned wives, children, Mentors, Disciples and
other "Events/Facts" as well as relationships of their own.

Friendly regards,
Alan (Ehrlich)
Geneva, Switzerland

MODERATOR NOTE: Detailed discussion of the operations of specific
genealogy programs is beyond the scope of JewishGen lists. Please
continue the discussion of the details of how Brother's Keeper
handles "Events/Facts" privately. Suggestions of other programs
that can do what Mordecai Perlman is looking for will be considered
for posting.


Following female lines #rabbinic

roe kard
 

Mordechai Perlman wrote:

Another example, Rabbeinu Tam, Rashbam and Rivam are all brothers,
sons of Rabbeinu Meir (Rashi's son-in-law).
The part of me that is a genealogist actively involved in searching
out the so-hard-to-find females, mothers and wives, the ones who
risked their lives in perilous times to give birth to babies, the
ones whose names you find so often in death records as having died
so very, very young in childbirth or shortly after, that part of me
is very disturbed that you choose to mention Rashi and then define
his grandsons only by their father, "Rashi's son-in-law".

Which of Rashi's daughters provided: physical life, the astonishing
maternal influence, the founding consciousness and also the home-
reality that helped these young boys before the men took over their
educations and they became prominent Rabbis and commentators? It's
such a phenomenal project; I hope appropriate attention will be paid
to the females.

I am especially sensitive to this because no one seems to know the
names of the current Belzer Rav, Yissacher Dov II's paternal
grandmother's, mother and grandmother's names. I have family letters
and tapes talking about my father being an "eineckle" of the Belzer
Rav, I have a legal document that names the Rav's orphaned daughter
"Rokart" (rather than "Rokach"), but because of the lack of proper
genealogical documentation, none that I have found so far, we may
never know exactly what the familial relationship is/was. I know that
the Rokart/Rokard's were in Belz before the Rokach's; I know we sold
property to them that was used as Jewish communal property; I know
that the Rav asked my ancestor to leave his Rabbinic post in Most and
move to Belz to be his Shochet, etc. But the mystery of the maternal
ancestry of Reb Yissacher Dov's (I) zt"l 2nd wife, Chaye Devorah a"h,
this may never be solved because of lack of attention to the females.
Enough already.

Karen Roekard
aka Gitel Chaye Eta Rosenfeld Rokart


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Following female lines #rabbinic

roe kard
 

Mordechai Perlman wrote:

Another example, Rabbeinu Tam, Rashbam and Rivam are all brothers,
sons of Rabbeinu Meir (Rashi's son-in-law).
The part of me that is a genealogist actively involved in searching
out the so-hard-to-find females, mothers and wives, the ones who
risked their lives in perilous times to give birth to babies, the
ones whose names you find so often in death records as having died
so very, very young in childbirth or shortly after, that part of me
is very disturbed that you choose to mention Rashi and then define
his grandsons only by their father, "Rashi's son-in-law".

Which of Rashi's daughters provided: physical life, the astonishing
maternal influence, the founding consciousness and also the home-
reality that helped these young boys before the men took over their
educations and they became prominent Rabbis and commentators? It's
such a phenomenal project; I hope appropriate attention will be paid
to the females.

I am especially sensitive to this because no one seems to know the
names of the current Belzer Rav, Yissacher Dov II's paternal
grandmother's, mother and grandmother's names. I have family letters
and tapes talking about my father being an "eineckle" of the Belzer
Rav, I have a legal document that names the Rav's orphaned daughter
"Rokart" (rather than "Rokach"), but because of the lack of proper
genealogical documentation, none that I have found so far, we may
never know exactly what the familial relationship is/was. I know that
the Rokart/Rokard's were in Belz before the Rokach's; I know we sold
property to them that was used as Jewish communal property; I know
that the Rav asked my ancestor to leave his Rabbinic post in Most and
move to Belz to be his Shochet, etc. But the mystery of the maternal
ancestry of Reb Yissacher Dov's (I) zt"l 2nd wife, Chaye Devorah a"h,
this may never be solved because of lack of attention to the females.
Enough already.

Karen Roekard
aka Gitel Chaye Eta Rosenfeld Rokart


Re: Congregation Beth Aaron Chasidim D'Koidanoff - Manhattan #general

Yehudh bn Shlmo
 

Does anyone know the religious practices for this Manhattan Synagogue
between 1905 through 1915?

I am assuming it had an association with Koidanov(o) which was in Russia then,
but is now Dzyarzhynsk Belarus. I have read extensive information about this
town which mentions multiple Chasidic movements including Lubavitch. Again,
my question is limited to 1905 through 1915. I will cross post if needed.

Shalom Shalom,
Yehudah ben Shlomo

MODERATOR NOTE: The question is about the synagogue
Congregation Beth Aaron Chasidim D'Koidanoff.


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: Congregation Beth Aaron Chasidim D'Koidanoff - Manhattan #rabbinic

Yehudh bn Shlmo
 

Does anyone know the religious practices for this Manhattan Synagogue
between 1905 through 1915?

I am assuming it had an association with Koidanov(o) which was in Russia then,
but is now Dzyarzhynsk Belarus. I have read extensive information about this
town which mentions multiple Chasidic movements including Lubavitch. Again,
my question is limited to 1905 through 1915. I will cross post if needed.

Shalom Shalom,
Yehudah ben Shlomo

MODERATOR NOTE: The question is about the synagogue
Congregation Beth Aaron Chasidim D'Koidanoff.


Death records. Liepaja. From: 1863 to 1865 #latvia

Christine Usdin
 


Latvia SIG #Latvia Death records. Liepaja. From: 1863 to 1865 #latvia

Christine Usdin
 


Re: naming males for females #general

Mordechai Perlman
 

Rae Melnick Barent <Sagittaria@...>
wrote:

My sister was named Eite Eidice bas Yaacov Yisroel for my grandfather
Yosef Yehuda. My grandson was named for my sister and the name was
converted to the masculine, Yosef Yehuda. But he was also named for
another of his great aunts, Esther. What would be the masculine equivalent
of Esther?

Esther is not a Hebrew word, but rather Persian. Nevertheless, the
Sages (Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Chulin 139b) did find a source for
Esther in the Torah in the verse (Deuteronomy 31:18) "And I will surely
HIDE My Face on that day". Therefore, Esther means "hidden".

Additionally, the Sages state that "Esther" in Persian is a name
given to someone as beautiful as the "moon".

Now, as for the first option, there are no masculine names in the
Bible that are suitable or common for "hidden". But for a name at least
containing a word meaning moon, there are two. On is Y'rocham
(see Samuel I,1:1). This is a somewhat common name. Some use instead
"Y'rucham", which is more common. The other option is "Y'rach-m'el or
more common, Y'rachmiel,which is a very common name. Both of these
names also have a meaning of "mercy" in them.

I hope this helps you.

Mordechai Perlman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: naming males for females #general

Mordechai Perlman
 

Rae Melnick Barent <Sagittaria@...>
wrote:

My sister was named Eite Eidice bas Yaacov Yisroel for my grandfather
Yosef Yehuda. My grandson was named for my sister and the name was
converted to the masculine, Yosef Yehuda. But he was also named for
another of his great aunts, Esther. What would be the masculine equivalent
of Esther?

Esther is not a Hebrew word, but rather Persian. Nevertheless, the
Sages (Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Chulin 139b) did find a source for
Esther in the Torah in the verse (Deuteronomy 31:18) "And I will surely
HIDE My Face on that day". Therefore, Esther means "hidden".

Additionally, the Sages state that "Esther" in Persian is a name
given to someone as beautiful as the "moon".

Now, as for the first option, there are no masculine names in the
Bible that are suitable or common for "hidden". But for a name at least
containing a word meaning moon, there are two. On is Y'rocham
(see Samuel I,1:1). This is a somewhat common name. Some use instead
"Y'rucham", which is more common. The other option is "Y'rach-m'el or
more common, Y'rachmiel,which is a very common name. Both of these
names also have a meaning of "mercy" in them.

I hope this helps you.

Mordechai Perlman