Thank you to all those who responded.

Michael Diamant
Hawaii

Documentation? What documentation? Jews snuck out of Russia - no exit papers
existed. And they made their way to a port, often on foot. Then they bought a
ticket, giving some name.

Except for wartime and until quotas (about WWI and after), no immigration
'permission' was needed. You arrived, and your name was whatever you had on
your ticket.

One of the reasons for coming to America was that you didn't need 'papers'.

My ggrandparents >from Berdichev did this, with 5 mostly grown (and draftable)
kboys.

Sally Bruckheimer

"Among the questions I have is with the police hot on their
trail how did they get the documentation that allowed them to leave the
country, enter other countries and travel to the U.S.A.?"

Thank you to all those who responded.

Michael Diamant
Hawaii

Documentation? What documentation? Jews snuck out of Russia - no exit papers
existed. And they made their way to a port, often on foot. Then they bought a
ticket, giving some name.

Except for wartime and until quotas (about WWI and after), no immigration
'permission' was needed. You arrived, and your name was whatever you had on
your ticket.

One of the reasons for coming to America was that you didn't need 'papers'.

My ggrandparents >from Berdichev did this, with 5 mostly grown (and draftable)
kboys.

Sally Bruckheimer

"Among the questions I have is with the police hot on their
trail how did they get the documentation that allowed them to leave the
country, enter other countries and travel to the U.S.A.?"

This is a photo of my great grandparent's wedding contract.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17631

Can anybody translate the town where Rosalia Fischer was born? If it isn't too much trouble, a full
translation would be very much appreciated.

Thanks,

Janet Isenberg
Glen Rock, NJ

Dear Mr. Lehrer,

The picture you sent would appear to show your relatives standing in front of
the famous Colonnades at Karlovy Vary (Kolonnaden, Karlsbad in German) in
Bohemia, Czech Republic.


It's a place where one can obtain the famous spa water. And as you can see, the
people are holding the special spa cups with a built-in straw in the handle.

Google the terms "kolonády, Karlovy Vary" and you will see some pictures of
them.

Or here is a website with some pictures:
http://lazne-karlovy-vary.webnode.cz/

You can see the bottoms of the columns are precisely the same as in your
picture. Also, the same number of steps.

All the best,

Rick Pinard
Prague

This is a photo of my great grandparent's wedding contract.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17631

Can anybody translate the town where Rosalia Fischer was born? If it isn't too much trouble, a full
translation would be very much appreciated.

Thanks,

Janet Isenberg
Glen Rock, NJ

Dear Mr. Lehrer,

The picture you sent would appear to show your relatives standing in front of
the famous Colonnades at Karlovy Vary (Kolonnaden, Karlsbad in German) in
Bohemia, Czech Republic.


It's a place where one can obtain the famous spa water. And as you can see, the
people are holding the special spa cups with a built-in straw in the handle.

Google the terms "kolonády, Karlovy Vary" and you will see some pictures of
them.

Or here is a website with some pictures:
http://lazne-karlovy-vary.webnode.cz/

You can see the bottoms of the columns are precisely the same as in your
picture. Also, the same number of steps.

All the best,

Rick Pinard
Prague

Would appreciate suggestions for the given names of the 2 people here
(by the vertical line on the left)
Brother somebody Schnapp
Father somebody Weithorn

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17615

Thank you,
Jane Pearson

Would appreciate suggestions for the given names of the 2 people here
(by the vertical line on the left)
Brother somebody Schnapp
Father somebody Weithorn

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17615

Thank you,
Jane Pearson

Thanks to all of the respondents to my question about my great grandparents'
burial society.
Thanks especially to Renee, Louis, Itai, David, Marc and Debbie.
The responses really added to the little information I have on my ancestors.
Isn't Jewishgen great?

Ron Schorr

Gayle,
If you mean public school records, and if California is anything like New
York, those school records are kept for 60 years, probably somewhere in the
basement of that school. At the end of that time, they are thrown out.
They are not considered "national" records.

Of course, if no one at the school as the time to do the throwing out, you
might get lucky and find records that date back longer than 60 years. This
happened to me with my mother's high school records >from 1928 - I lucked
out and they were still in that basement!
Good luck!

Isabel Cymerman
Roxbury,. CT

Thanks to all of the respondents to my question about my great grandparents'
burial society.
Thanks especially to Renee, Louis, Itai, David, Marc and Debbie.
The responses really added to the little information I have on my ancestors.
Isn't Jewishgen great?

Ron Schorr

Gayle,
If you mean public school records, and if California is anything like New
York, those school records are kept for 60 years, probably somewhere in the
basement of that school. At the end of that time, they are thrown out.
They are not considered "national" records.

Of course, if no one at the school as the time to do the throwing out, you
might get lucky and find records that date back longer than 60 years. This
happened to me with my mother's high school records >from 1928 - I lucked
out and they were still in that basement!
Good luck!

Isabel Cymerman
Roxbury,. CT

If anyone is currently viewing the Mormon film on Elbing, or about to,
please could you contact me? I would be very grateful if you look up the
marriage record of Caspar GOLDSTEIN (son of Samuel Isaac Itzig GOLDSTEIN)
and Fanny LOWENSTEIN, daughter of Marcus Wolff LOWENSTEIN, who were married
in February 1839 in Elbing. I am hoping that the record might state where
Caspar or his father were >from before Elbing. Thank you!


Judith Elam
Kihei, Hawaii

elamj@...

Researching: GOLDSTEIN (Elbing), WEINBERG (London, Berlin, Dirschau &
Elbing), JAPHA (Fraustadt), HAHN (Fraustadt, Schrimm, Czempin & Kosten),
FISCHEL (Czempin, Kosten & Schrimm), SCHWARZ (Kosten, Schrimm), LEVY
(Penzlin, Neustrelitz, Schwerin), ARENHEIM (Penzlin), SIMEK (Schrimm),
HIRSCHBERG, KALLMANN & MOSSNER (Soldin)

If anyone is currently viewing the Mormon film on Elbing, or about to,
please could you contact me? I would be very grateful if you look up the
marriage record of Caspar GOLDSTEIN (son of Samuel Isaac Itzig GOLDSTEIN)
and Fanny LOWENSTEIN, daughter of Marcus Wolff LOWENSTEIN, who were married
in February 1839 in Elbing. I am hoping that the record might state where
Caspar or his father were >from before Elbing. Thank you!


Judith Elam
Kihei, Hawaii

elamj@...

Researching: GOLDSTEIN (Elbing), WEINBERG (London, Berlin, Dirschau &
Elbing), JAPHA (Fraustadt), HAHN (Fraustadt, Schrimm, Czempin & Kosten),
FISCHEL (Czempin, Kosten & Schrimm), SCHWARZ (Kosten, Schrimm), LEVY
(Penzlin, Neustrelitz, Schwerin), ARENHEIM (Penzlin), SIMEK (Schrimm),
HIRSCHBERG, KALLMANN & MOSSNER (Soldin)

The historic Eldridge Street Synagogue in New York City has a list of
original members.
http://www.eldridgestreet.org/index.php/history/original-congregants

Hannah Berliner Fischthal
BERLINER in Dabrowa Gornicza, Brzeznica, Sosnowiec
SZWAJCER in Bedzin

The historic Eldridge Street Synagogue in New York City has a list of
original members.
http://www.eldridgestreet.org/index.php/history/original-congregants

Hannah Berliner Fischthal
BERLINER in Dabrowa Gornicza, Brzeznica, Sosnowiec
SZWAJCER in Bedzin

Many thanks for the helpful responses to my Viewmate postings. I had never used
Viewmate before and was unsure of what the response would be. I learned a bit
more about my grandmother and also got a lesson in Austrian/Hungary geography!
In gratitude for all the help I have received >from listers, I am making a
donation to Jewishgen.

Deb Holman (Ct-USA)

Researching: SPIEGEL, WEISS, LICHTENTHAL, BERGER, SAMUEL, BYK, KESNER, OSTERMANN

Many thanks for the helpful responses to my Viewmate postings. I had never used
Viewmate before and was unsure of what the response would be. I learned a bit
more about my grandmother and also got a lesson in Austrian/Hungary geography!
In gratitude for all the help I have received >from listers, I am making a
donation to Jewishgen.

Deb Holman (Ct-USA)

Researching: SPIEGEL, WEISS, LICHTENTHAL, BERGER, SAMUEL, BYK, KESNER, OSTERMANN